From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Mon Nov 16 17:07:10 2009 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:07:10 -0500 Subject: Walthers PS 10-6 Sleeper Message-ID: <410-220091111622710944@earthlink.net> PAUL; It is the November 2009 issue of RMC. It has two seperate track plans with the larger being a three level plan featuring Norton. There are excellent tips for operations in the Interstate/L&N/N&W era as well as for the period when SOU ran the Interstate and on into NS operations. It is an intriguing area of operations however it offers no opportunity for passenger service and very limited freight service except for coal operations. Of course there is always "modelers license". Dan. Dan and Nina Mulhearn; Pipestem WV dannina1 at earthlink.net Why Wait? Move to EarthLink. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Tue Nov 17 12:39:33 2009 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:39:33 -0500 Subject: ExactRail N&W Boxcar In-Reply-To: <20091113012130007.ZVHD23178@hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com> References: <20091113012130007.ZVHD23178@hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com> Message-ID: <04F1DF013003034193915EE0CCEA9A910131E1D66B@SWEC9924.w-intra.net> John, The just released Athearn SD-45's are really beautiful. They are Blue (somehow this note didn't send yesterday and ended up in my draft folder,,,,,,, since then others have identified the black/blue discrepancy) with yellow lettering and hamburger heralds as delivered by EMD. They have additional detail vs prior Athearn RTR SD-45's (I have 3 EL and 3 SOU Athearn RTR's) and the multi chime bi-directional air horn and firecracker antenna look and appear to be correctly located on the cab and high nose roof for N&W. These models also have hoses and details on the pilots as well as all collapsed all weather cab window components on the cab windows that are not on prior production Athearn RTR SD-45's. There are still no MU receptacles or drop steps. These are great models. They look good and run well (as is the case with all the Athearn RTR units I own). Anybody need one? ......I somehow ended up with 2 of each number. Ed Painter Narrows, VA currently living in Russellville, AR From: nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org [mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Modeling List Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:21 PM To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Subject: RE: ExactRail N&W Boxcar Hi Lister's, A few weeks ago at the Western Prototype Modelers meet ExactRail had this N&W boxcar on display, (see attached photos) Is this the car that has been discussed on the list lately and you guys want painted in blue? Sorry, I have no connection in getting them painted in blue. If any of you are interested I have a photo of BLMA's Top-Gon that I could post. Of all the models on display it looked like NS/N&W were quite popular being right behind ESPEE (that's west coast for Southern Pacific), AT&SF/BNSF and UP. I don't remember seeing more than maybe three CSX models. By the way Athearn just did the HH SD45's in Hamburger herald black. So far I've seen #1791 & 1797. Take care, John Hecker P/S: This is my first attempt at sending photos to the list. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Tue Nov 17 13:33:54 2009 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:33:54 -0500 Subject: My color mistake, sorry! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <012b01ca67b4$844d19a0$8ce74ce0$@net> Actually, If you going to paint, Black Scalecoat has finer pigment of all the paints. Plus Scalecoat has two blacks. It's never simple! 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Shell Troutville, VA In a message dated1/18/2009 8:01:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org writes: What would be the nearest match for Virginian black. Smehow it must be different to N&W black.... Peter North Norfolk, England ________________________________________ NW-Modeling-List at nwhs.org To change your subscription go to http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-modeling-list Browse the NW-Modeling-List archives at http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-modeling-list/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Thu Nov 19 11:30:29 2009 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:30:29 -0500 Subject: Tangent Drop Gons? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006e01ca6935$9b97cb00$d2c76100$@net> Question? Does anyone know if the Wabash ACF 70-ton welded Drop-end Gondola (by Tangent Models) got repainted in the N&W scheme? Thanks, Stephen Rineair -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Thu Nov 19 12:42:28 2009 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:42:28 -0500 Subject: BLACK In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <04F1DF013003034193915EE0CCEA9A910131E1D676@SWEC9924.w-intra.net> >From my recollections (and thousands of 35mm slides) of the pre-NS N&W black locomotives; that the locomotives were usually so dirty that any aspect of shade or fade was/is very difficult to discern. When washed they ended up with horizontal streaks or even peeling paint due to the strength of the cleaning solvents from the washer. After any length of service time they never particularly looked clean again. Thinking of N&W's locomotive washing in the 70's reminds me of one ex-NKP RS-36 that I photographed multiple times at Brewster. Oh (between 1971 and 78 I lived in Northeastern Ohio and went to Brewster almost weekly). Over time this particular RS-36 went from faded N&W Pevler blue/yellow - to newly painted NW black/white - to dirty NW black/white - and after being washed back to faded N&W Pevler blue (with some black) - and finally to about 50% NKP black/yellow lettering and strips and 50% very faded N&W Pevler blue/yellow. Ed Painter - Narrows, VA currently living in Russellville, AR From: nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org [mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Modeling List Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 9:03 PM To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Subject: Re: BLACK Don't laugh. Norfolk and Western's black actually faded to a different sheen than Sothern's black. Southern faded to a richer black it that makes any sense. Richard D. Shell Troutville, VA In a message dated1/18/2009 8:01:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org writes: What would be the nearest match for Virginian black. Somehow it must be different to N&W black.... Peter North Norfolk, England ________________________________________ NW-Modeling-List at nwhs.org To change your subscription go to http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-modeling-list Browse the NW-Modeling-List archives at http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-modeling-list/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Thu Nov 19 18:46:59 2009 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:46:59 -0800 Subject: BLACK In-Reply-To: <04F1DF013003034193915EE0CCEA9A910131E1D676@SWEC9924.w-intra.net> References: <04F1DF013003034193915EE0CCEA9A910131E1D676@SWEC9924.w-intra.net> Message-ID: <7355429EFD2A47D8BE99DF530ECA454B@don1> That RS-36 life history would make an interesting photo essay for the Arrow. Don Trettel _____ From: nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org [mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Modeling List Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:42 AM To: 'NW Modeling List' Subject: RE: BLACK >From my recollections (and thousands of 35mm slides) of the pre-NS N&W black locomotives; that the locomotives were usually so dirty that any aspect of shade or fade was/is very difficult to discern. When washed they ended up with horizontal streaks or even peeling paint due to the strength of the cleaning solvents from the washer. After any length of service time they never particularly looked clean again. Thinking of N&W's locomotive washing in the 70's reminds me of one ex-NKP RS-36 that I photographed multiple times at Brewster. Oh (between 1971 and 78 I lived in Northeastern Ohio and went to Brewster almost weekly). Over time this particular RS-36 went from faded N&W Pevler blue/yellow - to newly painted NW black/white - to dirty NW black/white - and after being washed back to faded N&W Pevler blue (with some black) - and finally to about 50% NKP black/yellow lettering and strips and 50% very faded N&W Pevler blue/yellow. Ed Painter - Narrows, VA currently living in Russellville, AR From: nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org [mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Modeling List Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 9:03 PM To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Subject: Re: BLACK Don't laugh. Norfolk and Western's black actually faded to a different sheen than Sothern's black. Southern faded to a richer black it that makes any sense. Richard D. Shell Troutville, VA In a message dated1/18/2009 8:01:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org writes: What would be the nearest match for Virginian black. Somehow it must be different to N&W black.... Peter North Norfolk, England ________________________________________ NW-Modeling-List at nwhs.org To change your subscription go to http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-modeling-list Browse the NW-Modeling-List archives at http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-modeling-list/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Thu Nov 19 19:53:53 2009 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:53:53 -0500 Subject: NW-Modeling-List Digest, Vol 71, Issue 32 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <327a2d880911191653l271bcacfmdce7c32a01709361@mail.gmail.com> Oh Please, Next thing you know we will be comparing it to Pennsy Black or Penn Central Black which they will point out it was Brunswick Locomotive Green or some such thing. The point is this: The N&W hauled coal and coke. Up until the 70's when the emission/pollution controls got more stringent on locomotives and also around the coal mines, everything was covered in coal dust. Diesel locomotives also spewed out black. So the question begs to answer did the paint fade or was it covered in grime or both. I have been modeling and running my N&W locomotives at train-shows and open houses and no-one has come up and asked me if that was the right color of N&W black. The only time you probably could get criticized is weathering the crap out of a Claytor scheme diesel when you are modeling 1981 or 1982; light weathering would be fine. As for blue, look at the Bower and Withers books on N&W diesels. Blue did not hold up well in the few color photos I saw of them. I was just between 8-11 years old when the blue scheme was being applied, but I don't remember seeing much of it. The blue ones I do remember had a lot of black dirt on them. Unless someone has a specific photograph of a certain date, you can't really go wrong with weathering and fading. One thing modelers do forget about when they are weathering is the nice clean section about shoulder height around the walkways and doors. This happens because the crew member's clothing has rubbed against it and wiped down the dirt. As for the Southern locomotives fading to a richer black, well that maybe true, but they probably did not work as much in a dirty grimy environment like the West Virginia coal fields. I have said my two cents worth, now it it off to listen to sports radio to still hear them talk about the Patriots decision to go for it on 4th and 2 ;) A.J. Gemperline > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:02:55 EST > From: NW Modeling List > Subject: Re: BLACK > To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Don't laugh. Norfolk and Western's black actually faded to a different > sheen than Southern's black. Southern faded to a richer black it that makes > any > sense. > > Richard D. Shell > Troutville, VA > > > In a message dated1/18/2009 8:01:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org writes: > > What would be the nearest match for Virginian black. Smehow it must > be different to N&W black.... > > Peter North > Norfolk, England > > ************************************************ > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Thu Nov 19 15:35:33 2009 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:35:33 -0500 Subject: BLACK In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <525490B4D288409DABA2EA935BE39B63@071927350f> He is right. I used to view ex-SOU and ex-N&W GP30's on NS grain trains parked at Clare Yard in Cincinnati in the early 1990's. While the N&W's were a greenish-gray black that had a bunch of fading to a matte finish, the SOU's tended to stay glossier and kinda blacker but the loco hood's had a lot more rusting along the lower edges. And the N&W's were earlier GP30 Phase 1's and the Southerns were all Phase 2's Gary Rolih Cinti _____ From: nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org [mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Modeling List Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:03 PM To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Subject: Re: BLACK Don't laugh. Norfolk and Western's black actually faded to a different sheen than Southern's black. Southern faded to a richer black it that makes any sense. Richard D. Shell Troutville, VA In a message dated1/18/2009 8:01:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org writes: What would be the nearest match for Virginian black. Smehow it must be different to N&W black.... Peter North Norfolk, England ________________________________________ NW-Modeling-List at nwhs.org To change your subscription go to http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-modeling-list Browse the NW-Modeling-List archives at http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-modeling-list/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Thu Nov 19 22:33:36 2009 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:33:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: BLACK Message-ID: <23614546.1258688016284.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Fri Nov 20 09:18:35 2009 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:18:35 -0500 Subject: Tangent Drop Gons? In-Reply-To: <006e01ca6935$9b97cb00$d2c76100$@net> References: ,<006e01ca6935$9b97cb00$d2c76100$@net> Message-ID: Stephen; At some point they were re-painted into N&W. N&W classed them as G63's in the 312600-312649 number series. Being that they were originally built in '51, they would have lasted in interchange service until '91. According to my 1995 NS Freight car diagram books, there are none left in service at that time, including in MOW Service. Hope this helps. Russ Goodwin To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Subject: RE: Tangent Drop Gons? Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:30:29 -0500 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Question? Does anyone know if the Wabash ACF 70-ton welded Drop-end Gondola (by Tangent Models) got repainted in the N&W scheme? Thanks, Stephen Rineair _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Fri Nov 20 09:59:21 2009 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:59:21 -0500 Subject: Tangent Drop Gons? In-Reply-To: References: , <006e01ca6935$9b97cb00$d2c76100$@net> Message-ID: <00d401ca69f2$0aabbdf0$200339d0$@net> Thanks for the help Russ! Maybe we could get then in N&W someday. Is this a possibility for the modeling committee? Stephen Rineair From: nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org [mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Modeling List Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 9:19 AM To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Subject: RE: Tangent Drop Gons? Stephen; At some point they were re-painted into N&W. N&W classed them as G63's in the 312600-312649 number series. Being that they were originally built in '51, they would have lasted in interchange service until '91. According to my 1995 NS Freight car diagram books, there are none left in service at that time, including in MOW Service. Hope this helps. Russ Goodwin _____ To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Subject: RE: Tangent Drop Gons? Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:30:29 -0500 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Question? Does anyone know if the Wabash ACF 70-ton welded Drop-end Gondola (by Tangent Models) got repainted in the N&W scheme? Thanks, Stephen Rineair _____ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Fri Nov 20 11:23:00 2009 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:23:00 -0500 Subject: Tangent Drop Gons? In-Reply-To: <00d401ca69f2$0aabbdf0$200339d0$@net> References: , , <006e01ca6935$9b97cb00$d2c76100$@net>, , <00d401ca69f2$0aabbdf0$200339d0$@net> Message-ID: Stephen; That certainly is a possiblility, as I have thought about having David do the car in N&W and N&W MOW, if pictures can be found. I will do some digging photographically next week, while enjoying Thanksgiving and put a package together. If anyone else can contribute to the cause it would be appreciated. Please contact me off-line at r m g n w 6 1 1 at m s n dot c o m (Remove spaces and insert @ and .) If Bob Bowers reads this, please contact me regarding this issue as well. Regards, Russ To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Subject: RE: Tangent Drop Gons? Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:59:21 -0500 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Thanks for the help Russ! Maybe we could get then in N&W someday. Is this a possibility for the modeling committee? Stephen Rineair From: nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org [mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Modeling List Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 9:19 AM To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Subject: RE: Tangent Drop Gons? Stephen; At some point they were re-painted into N&W. N&W classed them as G63's in the 312600-312649 number series. Being that they were originally built in '51, they would have lasted in interchange service until '91. According to my 1995 NS Freight car diagram books, there are none left in service at that time, including in MOW Service. Hope this helps. Russ Goodwin To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Subject: RE: Tangent Drop Gons? Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:30:29 -0500 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Question? Does anyone know if the Wabash ACF 70-ton welded Drop-end Gondola (by Tangent Models) got repainted in the N&W scheme? Thanks, Stephen Rineair Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. _________________________________________________________________ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MFESRP&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Fri Nov 20 15:17:40 2009 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:17:40 -0500 Subject: Tangent Drop Gons? In-Reply-To: References: , , <006e01ca6935$9b97cb00$d2c76100$@net>, , <00d401ca69f2$0aabbdf0$200339d0$@net> Message-ID: <010b01ca6a1e$826a2d00$873e8700$@net> What are the car #s for the gons? Stephen From: nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org [mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Modeling List Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:23 AM To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Subject: RE: Tangent Drop Gons? Stephen; That certainly is a possiblility, as I have thought about having David do the car in N&W and N&W MOW, if pictures can be found. I will do some digging photographically next week, while enjoying Thanksgiving and put a package together. If anyone else can contribute to the cause it would be appreciated. Please contact me off-line at r m g n w 6 1 1 at m s n dot c o m (Remove spaces and insert @ and .) If Bob Bowers reads this, please contact me regarding this issue as well. Regards, Russ _____ To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Subject: RE: Tangent Drop Gons? Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:59:21 -0500 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Thanks for the help Russ! Maybe we could get then in N&W someday. Is this a possibility for the modeling committee? Stephen Rineair From: nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org [mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Modeling List Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 9:19 AM To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Subject: RE: Tangent Drop Gons? Stephen; At some point they were re-painted into N&W. N&W classed them as G63's in the 312600-312649 number series. Being that they were originally built in '51, they would have lasted in interchange service until '91. According to my 1995 NS Freight car diagram books, there are none left in service at that time, including in MOW Service. Hope this helps. Russ Goodwin _____ To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Subject: RE: Tangent Drop Gons? Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:30:29 -0500 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Question? Does anyone know if the Wabash ACF 70-ton welded Drop-end Gondola (by Tangent Models) got repainted in the N&W scheme? Thanks, Stephen Rineair _____ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. _____ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Fri Nov 20 16:03:16 2009 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:03:16 -0500 Subject: Tangent Drop Gons? In-Reply-To: <010b01ca6a1e$826a2d00$873e8700$@net> References: , , , <006e01ca6935$9b97cb00$d2c76100$@net>, , , , <00d401ca69f2$0aabbdf0$200339d0$@net>, , <010b01ca6a1e$826a2d00$873e8700$@net> Message-ID: Stephen; Number series are as follows: Wabash - 12600-12649 NW - 312600-312649 (G63) I've looked at Fallen Flags and cannot find a copy of an image. The biggest issue I foresee is finding a good image of the car in N&W Paint as there were only 50 built. Russ Goodwin To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Subject: RE: Tangent Drop Gons? Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:17:40 -0500 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org What are the car #s for the gons? Stephen From: nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org [mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Modeling List Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:23 AM To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Subject: RE: Tangent Drop Gons? Stephen; That certainly is a possiblility, as I have thought about having David do the car in N&W and N&W MOW, if pictures can be found. I will do some digging photographically next week, while enjoying Thanksgiving and put a package together. If anyone else can contribute to the cause it would be appreciated. Please contact me off-line at r m g n w 6 1 1 at m s n dot c o m (Remove spaces and insert @ and .) If Bob Bowers reads this, please contact me regarding this issue as well. Regards, Russ To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Subject: RE: Tangent Drop Gons? Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:59:21 -0500 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Thanks for the help Russ! Maybe we could get then in N&W someday. Is this a possibility for the modeling committee? Stephen Rineair From: nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org [mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Modeling List Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 9:19 AM To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Subject: RE: Tangent Drop Gons? Stephen; At some point they were re-painted into N&W. N&W classed them as G63's in the 312600-312649 number series. Being that they were originally built in '51, they would have lasted in interchange service until '91. According to my 1995 NS Freight car diagram books, there are none left in service at that time, including in MOW Service. Hope this helps. Russ Goodwin To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Subject: RE: Tangent Drop Gons? Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:30:29 -0500 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Question? Does anyone know if the Wabash ACF 70-ton welded Drop-end Gondola (by Tangent Models) got repainted in the N&W scheme? Thanks, Stephen Rineair Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. _________________________________________________________________ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MFESRP&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Sun Nov 22 03:30:05 2009 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:30:05 -0500 Subject: O scale Class M model anyone? References: , , <006e01ca6935$9b97cb00$d2c76100$@net>, , <00d401ca69f2$0aabbdf0$200339d0$@net> <8CC3819975AAE84-62B8-5D4@webmail-m096.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <269C5B67AB28477D9D6C2924339C1350@Jimmy> Is anyone interested in trying to get an O scale Class M produced? 3rd Rail would like to know. Jimmy Lisle -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Sun Nov 22 09:33:34 2009 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:33:34 -0500 Subject: O scale Class M model anyone? In-Reply-To: <269C5B67AB28477D9D6C2924339C1350@Jimmy> References: , , <006e01ca6935$9b97cb00$d2c76100$@net>, , <00d401ca69f2$0aabbdf0$200339d0$@net> <8CC3819975AAE84-62B8-5D4@webmail-m096.sysops.aol.com> <269C5B67AB28477D9D6C2924339C1350@Jimmy> Message-ID: <014c01ca6b80$c5537f50$4ffa7df0$@net> Jim: PSC has announced the M2's but are lacking reservations. George Kohs is going to do them in O but has not announced them yet. Stephen From: nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org [mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Modeling List Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 3:30 AM To: NW Modeling List Subject: O scale Class M model anyone? Is anyone interested in trying to get an O scale Class M produced? 3rd Rail would like to know. Jimmy Lisle -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Sun Nov 22 10:34:06 2009 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:34:06 -0500 Subject: O scale Class M model anyone? In-Reply-To: <269C5B67AB28477D9D6C2924339C1350@Jimmy> References: , , <006e01ca6935$9b97cb00$d2c76100$@net>, , <00d401ca69f2$0aabbdf0$200339d0$@net><8CC3819975AAE84-62B8-5D4@webmail-m096.sysops.aol.com> <269C5B67AB28477D9D6C2924339C1350@Jimmy> Message-ID: <8CC39A05C94C980-A380-FDA3@webmail-d054.sysops.aol.com> Jimmy, Less than ten years ago 3rd Rail had an M class 4-8-0 on their website and were taking reservations (without deposit). At that time I had reserved mine. Over a year after it had first appeared on their website, I spoke to Scott Mann on the project and he said they would not be made do to lack of reservations. If something has changed and he wants to res erect the project I'd consider one with the long tender with an appropriate engine number for the Abington branch. Tom Lewis -----Original Message----- From: NW Modeling List To: NW Modeling List Sent: Sun, Nov 22, 2009 3:30 am Subject: O scale Class M model anyone? Is anyone interested in trying to get an O scale Class M produced? 3rd Rail would like to know. Jimmy Lisle ________________________________________ NW-Modeling-List at nwhs.org To change your subscription go to http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-modeling-list Browse the NW-Modeling-List archives at http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-modeling-list/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Sun Nov 22 11:00:18 2009 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:00:18 -0500 Subject: Black Message-ID: <1922F18437C94DD69725F3B3F07FF430@gatewayem5g4vj> For an excellent discussion of modeling "black", see the article "N&W Tour, What Happened to all the Black!" by R.L. Hundman with photos by R. Bradley, pp. 30-35, Mainline Modeler, 11/97. Carl Miller Kingsville, MD -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org Sun Nov 22 19:34:00 2009 From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:34:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: O-Scale class M Message-ID: <110473.57963.qm@web50411.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I am not an O-Scale guy, but I would be interested in an HO Class M, and a Class E. But start with O-Scale if need be. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: