From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org  Mon Nov 30 11:49:55 2009
From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:49:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Norfolk Southern Business Locomotive #4271
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The history of the Southern scheme is not lost on me.  But the gold NS markings look like afterthoughts.  I'm not suggesting I could do better.  That said, like Ed and Jeff, I truly appreciate the fact that they are preserving anything at this point. Especially in today's corporate environment, where discretionary spending is always difficult to justify.

Mike Rector.




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To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
Sent: Sun, November 29, 2009 10:49:31 PM
Subject: Re: Norfolk Southern Business Locomotive #4271

I'm a great believer in Rule 1 (the modelers' version, "this is my railroad...") and personally I'm glad to see F-units, regardless of their history and markings, alive and well.
I should confess I'm not one of those who dislike the joining of the Southern black color scheme with the modern Thoroughbred markings, but they're entitled to their opinions.

Jeff Cornelius
Stuarts Draft


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Sent: Sun, Nov 29, 2009 5:22 pm
Subject: RE: Norfolk Southern Business Locomotive #4271


I made a negative comment about the paint scheme in talking with some NS folks
this summer at the Convention in the lounge at Hotel Roanoke.  Seems one of
these folks was responsible for the scheme.  I really put my foot in my mouth.
He's a really nice guy, a railfan, and pro-N&W.  Whether through guilt or simply
becoming accustomed to the scheme's variations from the Southern scheme that was
used for its basis...... it's grown on me.  Regardless of whether we like or
don't like the paint scheme it certainly is nice  that NS preserves and operates
the set of F's (NS management deserves our thanks).  Chasing them from Narrows
to Bluefield this summer really brought back old memories as their 567 prime
movers worked their way up grade from Glen Lyn to Bluefield.

Ed Painter Narrows, VA living in Russellville, AR

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Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 6:18 PM
To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
Subject: Re: Norfolk Southern Business Locomotive #4271

No, but remember Rule 1.

Jeff Cornelius


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From: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
To: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
Sent: Wed, Nov 25, 2009 7:19 pm
Subject: Re: Norfolk Southern Business Locomotive #4271



I'm not the only one to think this is the worst paint scheme in the
collective history of all NS' former roads?

Mike Rector



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To: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
Sent: Wed, November 25, 2009 1:15:49 PM
Subject: Re: Norfolk Southern Business Locomotive #4271

Dave:
The subject locomotive is an F9A, EMD. It is part of a set NS uses for
business and special trains. The other three are:
4271 F9A
4275 F7B (no cab)
4276 F7B (no cab)

See:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/locoPicture.aspx?id=79233

These units are painted in a scheme very similar to the former Southern
Railway F's.

Also to see the more info on each see:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/locoList.aspx?id=NS&Page=16

Charlie Long



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Sent: Nov 25, 2009 10:16 AM
To: Norfolk Western Mailing List , N&W Modeling List
Subject: Norfolk Southern Business Locomotive #4271

   Mailing list:
What is the class number of NS's #4271?  E-'something'?
Are they used in pairs, A-A (coupled tail to tail?) or A-B?
In the case of MU, does the 'set' have one engine number or different
numbers?
Are there more images available?
Is more information available in one of the Society Books?
 
 
Modeling list:
What HO scale model(s) is a good starting point for this locomotive?
[Ducking for cover as I ask this] What are the colors and what paints
could you recommend?
 
(image attached)
 
Dave Willis
(blt 1962, c/n 4)


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From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:25:30 -0500
Subject: N&W maroon passenger cars in 1949
Message-ID: <f96206f30912010625j41f211adg710d43afc85bb3ca@mail.gmail.com>

My freelanced RR is set in 1949 and hopefully will include some passenger
cars from the N&W as run-through cars.  What I am needing to know is how
wide spread would the application of the maroon be during the late-40s to
older, heavyweight cars.  Would head-end cars be carrying this paint?  And
which "version" of the paint would they have, the red or the metallic?

Any help would be appreciated!!!
-- 
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much of it anymore.

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From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 10:59:04 -0600
Subject: N&W maroon passenger cars in 1949
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In any era, all N&W passenger cars were painted the same color. Contrary to
some reports, the "old red" was metallic also. However, you are not going to
have to worry about that in a model paint. The so called "new red", which
first appeared on the passenger GP9's appears to have had more metallic
particles in it than before. Plus, the elimination of lead from the paint
created a situation where subsequent repaintings were with the so called
"new red." For modeling purposes, I think you can ignore the difference. I
suggest you find a shade that looks good to you and paint all N&W cars with
it. If you want an "out-of-the-bottle" color, I suggest you consider
Floquil's Wisconsin Central Maroon. It is a little darker than I like, but
as close as you will find with a pre-mixed color.     Jim Nichols

 

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Subject: N&W maroon passenger cars in 1949

 

My freelanced RR is set in 1949 and hopefully will include some passenger
cars from the N&W as run-through cars.  What I am needing to know is how
wide spread would the application of the maroon be during the late-40s to
older, heavyweight cars.  Would head-end cars be carrying this paint?  And
which "version" of the paint would they have, the red or the metallic?

Any help would be appreciated!!!
-- 
jerry 
<jmlaboda at gmail.com>

I hate getting old... I have learned a lot of things, I just can't remember
much of it anymore.

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From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org  Wed Dec  2 15:44:42 2009
From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 12:44:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Norfolk Southern Business Locomotive #4271
In-Reply-To: <889244.78160.qm@web55108.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
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I'm very happy to see the F's in SOUTHERN tuxedo, a very nice nod to the SOUTHERN part of NS.

But it remains a thorn in my side that there isnt a NS loco paying homage to the NORFOLK side of NS while SOUTHERN has a green GP59 (#4610) and now these F units.

I nice N&W Red locomotive might relieve that thorny issue for me. ;-)

Mark Peele
================================
N&W in N scale



      

From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org  Wed Dec  2 20:29:40 2009
From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 01:29:40 +0000
Subject: Norfolk Southern Business Locomotive #4271
In-Reply-To: <838919.31357.qm@web38704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <889244.78160.qm@web55108.mail.re4.yahoo.com>,
	<838919.31357.qm@web38704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Agreed! Jim Flummer
 
> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 12:44:42 -0800
> Subject: Re: Norfolk Southern Business Locomotive #4271
> To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
> From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
> 
> I'm very happy to see the F's in SOUTHERN tuxedo, a very nice nod to the SOUTHERN part of NS.
> 
> But it remains a thorn in my side that there isnt a NS loco paying homage to the NORFOLK side of NS while SOUTHERN has a green GP59 (#4610) and now these F units.
> 
> I nice N&W Red locomotive might relieve that thorny issue for me. ;-)
> 
> Mark Peele
> ================================
> N&W in N scale
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org  Wed Dec  2 21:53:17 2009
From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 21:53:17 -0500
Subject: N&W maroon passenger cars in 1949 (NW Modeling List)
Message-ID: <f96206f30912021853k4c30e96dkc7e67fa6714c5221@mail.gmail.com>

>In any era, all N&W passenger cars were painted the same color.

So they had always been in Tuscan red?  For some odd reason I had been led
to believe that Pullman green had been used but if the red was what was used
that helps me on my freelanced line as well.  I don't know... I guess it was
the heavyweight Pullman cars that probably led me to think that, since they
are listed as being Pullman green until the early 50s even though N&W got
their few in the late-40s.  Now I won't feel so bad if I go ahead and use
the same red on my passenger equipment as well.  Don't get me wrong, I like
Pullman green (I am also a huge Southern fan logging mileage on a number of
the Amtrak era trains, as well as the "Crescent" after Amtrak's take over)
but that wine... oh, its so mighty fine!!!  I have been a fan of it since
Southern first borrowed the N&W's "Alta Vista" car for a Kentucky Derby
Special not long after moving to N.C. from California.  I was thrilled to be
able to see the green E8s and all the business cars but having the N&W 800
on the end made it all that much more sweet!!!
-- 
jerry
<jmlaboda at gmail.com>

I hate getting old... I have learned a lot of things, I just can't remember
much of it anymore.

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From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 10:33:47 -0600
Subject: N&W maroon passenger cars in 1949 (NW Modeling List)
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The heavyweight Pullmans were green because that was the way Pullman had
painted them. All but one were eventually repainted in N&W Tuscan red (with
gold stripes, no less!).    Jim Nichols

 

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Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:53 PM
To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
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>In any era, all N&W passenger cars were painted the same color.

So they had always been in Tuscan red?  For some odd reason I had been led
to believe that Pullman green had been used but if the red was what was used
that helps me on my freelanced line as well.  I don't know... I guess it was
the heavyweight Pullman cars that probably led me to think that, since they
are listed as being Pullman green until the early 50s even though N&W got
their few in the late-40s.  Now I won't feel so bad if I go ahead and use
the same red on my passenger equipment as well.  Don't get me wrong, I like
Pullman green (I am also a huge Southern fan logging mileage on a number of
the Amtrak era trains, as well as the "Crescent" after Amtrak's take over)
but that wine... oh, its so mighty fine!!!  I have been a fan of it since
Southern first borrowed the N&W's "Alta Vista" car for a Kentucky Derby
Special not long after moving to N.C. from California.  I was thrilled to be
able to see the green E8s and all the business cars but having the N&W 800
on the end made it all that much more sweet!!!
-- 
jerry 
<jmlaboda at gmail.com>

I hate getting old... I have learned a lot of things, I just can't remember
much of it anymore.

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From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org  Thu Dec  3 12:01:10 2009
From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 09:01:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: N&W maroon passenger cars in 1949 (NW Modeling List)
In-Reply-To: <f96206f30912021853k4c30e96dkc7e67fa6714c5221@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <180086.46873.qm@web38705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

N&W Red goes back to at least the 1890s.

The Pullmans were green, but all but maybe one were painted red after N&W bought them in the late 40s.

Mark Peele
================================
N&W in N scale

> 
> So they had always been in Tuscan red?? For some odd
> reason I had been led to believe that Pullman green had been
> used but if the red was what was used that helps me on my
> freelanced line as well.? I don't know... I guess it
> was the heavyweight Pullman cars that probably led me to
> think that, since they are listed as being Pullman green
> until the early 50s even though N&W got their few in the
> late-40s.? 


      

From nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org  Thu Dec  3 12:14:54 2009
From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 12:14:54 -0500
Subject: Norfolk Southern Business Locomotive #4271
References: <889244.78160.qm@web55108.mail.re4.yahoo.com>,
	<838919.31357.qm@web38704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<SNT124-W3667313025D00A6E126BDA9940@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <003801ca743c$22ec4610$0101a8c0@cal4a05f12c0c1>

Mark, Jim, did you forget that all of the business car fleet, some 20 odd, are in N&W colors.
Cal Reynolds
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  To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:29 PM
  Subject: RE: Norfolk Southern Business Locomotive #4271


  Agreed! Jim Flummer
   
  > Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 12:44:42 -0800
  > Subject: Re: Norfolk Southern Business Locomotive #4271
  > To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
  > From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
  > 
  > I'm very happy to see the F's in SOUTHERN tuxedo, a very nice nod to the SOUTHERN part of NS.
  > 
  > But it remains a thorn in my side that there isnt a NS loco paying homage to the NORFOLK side of NS while SOUTHERN has a green GP59 (#4610) and now these F units.
  > 
  > I nice N&W Red locomotive might relieve that thorny issue for me. ;-)
  > 
  > Mark Peele
  > ================================
  > N&W in N scale
  > 
  > 
  > 
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From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 17:05:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Numbers for steam
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Gentlemen,
My son and I have aquired a 2-8-0 engine that is undecorated and would like to number it and also add the N&W name to it. Where would the name go? On the tender or or the cab?
This would also apply to a heavy mountain engine that we just got from Bachmann. The cab has 118 on it and in very small lettering it has Norfolk and Western. Is this correct?
The one reason I'm asking about the name placement is that all of our other steams have the name on the tender.
Thank you for your help.
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From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 15:13:58 +0000
Subject: Norfolk Southern Business Locomotive #4271
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References: <889244.78160.qm@web55108.mail.re4.yahoo.com>,
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On my HO layout I have a dash 9 painted in the red bird colors. On the cab side under the road number I used an N scale gothic herald for the owner. Also used the gothic heralds on the noses. Just my little homage to the N&W.

Jon kelley

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Subject: RE: Norfolk Southern Business Locomotive #4271

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From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 19:13:57 -0800
Subject: Numbers for steam
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The Bachmann Heavy Mountain is correct for the '30's era it represents.  The N&W's lettering changed over the years, so you have to pick a year....

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  Gentlemen,
  My son and I have aquired a 2-8-0 engine that is undecorated and would like to number it and also add the N&W name to it. Where would the name go? On the tender or or the cab?
  This would also apply to a heavy mountain engine that we just got from Bachmann. The cab has 118 on it and in very small lettering it has Norfolk and Western. Is this correct?
  The one reason I'm asking about the name placement is that all of our other steams have the name on the tender.
  Thank you for your help.
  Mac (Macdonald, RB)


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From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 22:16:51 -0500
Subject: Norfolk Southern Business Locomotive #4271
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I too have longed for a N&W/VGN Heritage unit. On the workbench there is a GE Dash 9 that will get painted VGN Yellow & Black.

 

Regards,
Russ Goodwin
 
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> Subject: Re: Norfolk Southern Business Locomotive #4271
> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 15:13:58 +0000
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> On my HO layout I have a dash 9 painted in the red bird colors. On the cab side under the road number I used an N scale gothic herald for the owner. Also used the gothic heralds on the noses. Just my little homage to the N&W.
> 
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From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 20:55:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Norfolk Southern Business Locomotive #4271
In-Reply-To: <003801ca743c$22ec4610$0101a8c0@cal4a05f12c0c1>
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Cal,

No sir, I did not forget. But 4610 is painted in SOUTHERN with the SOUTHERN logos, etc. And it is a LOCOMOTIVE. 

Gives me another idea - how about some hoppers in N&W "snellen" style! ;-)

Mark Peele

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> Mark, Jim, did
> you forget that all of 
> the business car fleet, some 20 odd, are in N&W
> colors.
> Cal
> Reynolds
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>   Locomotive #4271
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> Agreed! Jim Flummer
> ?
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>   12:44:42 -0800
> > Subject: Re: Norfolk Southern Business Locomotive 
>   #4271
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> > I'm very happy to see the F's in SOUTHERN
> tuxedo, a very nice nod to 
>   the SOUTHERN part of NS.
> > 
> > But it remains a thorn in my side 
>   that there isnt a NS loco paying homage to the NORFOLK
> side of NS while 
>   SOUTHERN has a green GP59 (#4610) and now these F units.
> > 
> > I 
>   nice N&W Red locomotive might relieve that thorny
> issue for me. 
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 00:12:47 -0500
Subject: N&W maroon passenger cars in 1949
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Thanks guys!!!  I appreciate the help!!!
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Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 23:34:37 -0600
Subject: Numbers for steam
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If you are modeling any time after 1940, put the road name on the tender. As
to number, that depends on the size of the 2-8-0 you have. I assume,
however, that it is not a small one, which would make numbers 6 & 7
appropriate. The larger N&W 2-8-0's were numbered between 673 and 949.   Jim
Nichols

 

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Gentlemen,

My son and I have aquired a 2-8-0 engine that is undecorated and would like
to number it and also add the N&W name to it. Where would the name go? On
the tender or or the cab?

This would also apply to a heavy mountain engine that we just got from
Bachmann. The cab has 118 on it and in very small lettering it has Norfolk
and Western. Is this correct?

The one reason I'm asking about the name placement is that all of our other
steams have the name on the tender.

Thank you for your help.

Mac (Macdonald, RB)

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 08:37:21 +0000
Subject: Bachmann J  HO Loco
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Hi

Thanks to Chris Dalton from Bluefield, and the good people at Soundtrax I have got the Bachmann J running with sound.

The Bachmann circuit board as fitted in the tender damaged the decoder, and Soundtrax repaired that at no charge. I have hard wired the decoder into the tender and discarded the Bachmann electrics. The lighting faied also, and I have fitted amber 12vLEDs which have a built in resistor and they also work a treat.

I did the same to a Rivorossi Challenger a while ago. This loco is I think 30 years old and looks and sounds good now. 

The J Class is now a totally different loco, the motor control on the Soundtrax decoder is very good and there seems to be lots of pulling power. It has no problems pulling 8 around my test oval, which is all the track I have.

One day there will be an outside line, but thats a long legal time away.

This is a very interesting group and thanks for all your help.

Barry Reeves
Songwriter & Musician
www.northwestlondonblues.co.uk
and
www.ace-assembly.co.uk




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Subject: Bachmann J  HO Loco
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:43:16 -0400
From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org













Hello Barry,

 

It takes 3 screws to remove the shell from the Spectrum J.  One is in the front of the engine just over top of the leading axle on the pilot truck on the bottom side of the model.  You should be able to turn the pilot truck sideways and reach the screw with a medium sized jewelers phillips head screwdriver.  The 2 screws in the back are a little more tricky.  These 2 screws go in through the frame into the back outer corners of the cab underneath the model.  There is a plastic fixture on each side of the loco under the cab that friction fits into the side of the frame.  The feedwater lines come out of the shell behind the rear driver set and run into these fixtures under the cab.  These 2 plastic castings must be pried off with a small flathead screwdriver to reveal the screws beneath the cab.  The feedwater lines pivot on these fixtures, so as long as your not too rough, once you pry these two plastic casting off you should be able to pivot them away from the cab enough to reach the screws.  Hope this helps.

 

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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 02:23:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Norfolk Southern Business Locomotive #4271
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guys I have an idea. the 6 axle?tender thats on the?Proto 2000 2-8-8-2, well Walthers sells the tender body and accessories but not the floor. I have got one and plan to use the Bachmann auxilary tenders frame and wheels to be used for locos such as the K-1 and hopefully?the?2-8-8-2 with the twin airpumps on front.just thought I'd give a bit of info if anyone was interested. tony putnam?

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Subject: RE: Norfolk Southern Business Locomotive #4271
To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 3:16 AM




I too have longed for a N&W/VGN Heritage unit.?On the workbench there is a GE Dash 9 that will get painted VGN Yellow & Black.
?
Regards,
Russ Goodwin
?
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> Subject: Re: Norfolk Southern Business Locomotive #4271
> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 15:13:58 +0000
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> 
> On my HO layout I have a dash 9 painted in the red bird colors. On the cab side under the road number I used an N scale gothic herald for the owner. Also used the gothic heralds on the noses. Just my little homage to the N&W.
> 
> Jon kelley
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 08:44:52 -0600
Subject: N&W maroon passenger cars in 1949 (NW Modeling List)
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Would this color notion also apply to the narrow gauge passenger equipment
used on the Big Sandy & Cumberland RR?  Before and after the N&W
acquisition?

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N&W Red goes back to at least the 1890s.

The Pullmans were green, but all but maybe one were painted red after N&W
bought them in the late 40s.

Mark Peele
================================
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 11:27:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: 3rd Rail Y6a & Y6b
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Jimmy: I have ordered a Y6a but have not received it yet account being away for three weeks. I friend of mine in NC received his Y6b?but sent back the tender account problems with the tender trucks. Harold Davenport

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3rd Rail's Y6a & Y6b are shipping. My Y6a arrived Monday. Has anyone else recieved theirs yet?
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Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 02:18:24 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Norfolk Southern Business Locomotive #4271
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any one here work for NS

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Subject: Re: Norfolk Southern Business Locomotive #4271
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On my HO layout I have a dash 9 painted in the red bird colors. On the cab side under the road number I used an N scale gothic herald for the owner. Also used the gothic heralds on the noses. Just my little homage to the N&W.

Jon kelley

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Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 01:52:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Bachmann J  HO Loco
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Hi Barry I have the same problem with a small 4-6-0 of Bachmanns, but I need to get a Micro tsunami . take care. tony putnam

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Subject: RE: Bachmann J HO Loco
To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 8:37 AM




Hi

Thanks to Chris Dalton from Bluefield, and the good people at Soundtrax I have got the Bachmann J running with sound.

The Bachmann circuit board as fitted in the tender damaged the decoder, and Soundtrax repaired that at no charge. I have hard wired the decoder into the tender and discarded the Bachmann electrics. The lighting faied also, and I have fitted amber 12vLEDs which have a built in resistor and they also work a treat.

I did the same to a Rivorossi Challenger a while ago. This loco is I think 30 years old and looks and sounds good now. 

The J Class is now a totally different loco, the motor control on the Soundtrax decoder is very good and there seems to be lots of pulling power. It has no problems pulling 8 around my test oval, which is all the track I have.

One day there will be an outside line, but thats a long legal time away.

This is a very interesting group and thanks for all your help.

Barry Reeves
Songwriter & Musician
www.northwestlondonblues.co.uk
and
www.ace-assembly.co.uk






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Subject: Bachmann J HO Loco
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:43:16 -0400
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Hello Barry,
?
It takes 3 screws to remove the shell from the Spectrum J.? One is in the front of the engine just over top of the leading axle on the?pilot truck on the bottom side of the model.? You should be able to turn the pilot truck sideways and reach the screw with a medium sized jewelers phillips head screwdriver.? The 2 screws in the back are a little more tricky.? These 2 screws?go in through the frame into the back outer corners of the cab underneath the model.? There is a plastic fixture on each side of the loco under the cab that friction fits into the side of the frame.? The feedwater lines?come out of the shell behind the rear driver set and run into these fixtures under the cab.? These 2 plastic castings must be pried off with a small flathead screwdriver to reveal the screws beneath the cab.? The feedwater lines pivot on these fixtures, so as long as your not too rough, once you pry these two plastic casting off you should be able to pivot
 them away from the cab enough to reach the screws.? Hope this helps.
?
Thanks,
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Bluefield, WV







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Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 09:46:35 -0500
Subject: Brass project to be considered
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The following are brass projects that I would like to have:

 

N&W RS3 - being considered as an exclusive thru a dealer very limited (10
models only?)

N&W Jawn Henry - orders request almost achieved for production  by Division
Point

N&W V1 4-6-0 

N&W W6 0-8-0

N&W Abington Branch M's 4-8-0

N&W M2 Automatic 

N&W dome car

N&W Z1a and Z1b in correct details - too/too many mistakes on PSC model
including wrong color on number boards

N&W GP9 Red and Bluebirds

N&W/CW  DL440/T6 

 

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Jimmy : I would like to have at least one M.? If we can get Scott to offer two versions I would want one of each.? I would want one like #382 as used on the Abingdon Branch with the high headlight and six wheel truck tender and one like #475 with the centered headlight and USRA 10,000 gal tender.? Harold Davenport 
?
PS: If he would also offer the M in HO I would buy a couple if they had the correct sized drivers. The?earlier HO Sunset models had way undersized drivers. HD??

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Is anyone interested in trying to get an O scale Class M produced? 3rd Rail would like to know.
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From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 14:15:54 -0600
Subject: Canteens
Message-ID: <4B1ABF7A.3050407@bellsouth.net>

Hey guys need a little help here.  When did the N&W start running 
canteens behind the A'sI have a fellow modler in my club who has two As 
and I gave him a canteen to run behind one.  He said he is modeling the 
40s and they weren't run behind the A's.

Any help would be appreciated.

Larry

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From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 13:04:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: N&W maroon passenger cars in 1949 (NW Modeling List)
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Mark Peele: Would you please contact me at - Haroldns at bellsouth.net - regarding N&W in N scale. Harold Davenport 

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Subject: RE: N&W maroon passenger cars in 1949 (NW Modeling List)
To: "'NW Modeling List'" <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 9:44 AM


Would this color notion also apply to the narrow gauge passenger equipment
used on the Big Sandy & Cumberland RR?? Before and after the N&W
acquisition?

Donald E. Munsey, Jr.? ? ? ? ? dmunseyjr at comcast.net
S/Sn42, Hn42 & Hn16 - Appalachian river logging modeler
Virginian Railway and Big Sandy & Cumberland Railroad fan
Living in UpperRightCorner of Louisiana
CopperSmith & Bonsai enthusiast

NOT sent from a Blackberry (or any other fruity device) - I can't afford
one!




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N&W Red goes back to at least the 1890s.

The Pullmans were green, but all but maybe one were painted red after N&W
bought them in the late 40s.

Mark Peele
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From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 15:39:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: 3rd Rail Y6a & Y6b
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does anyone have any info on N&Ws pulpwood racks and are there any models close to them? I have a Tichy car I?am hoping to try and use. tony?

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Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 7:27 PM






Jimmy: I have ordered a Y6a but have not received it yet account being away for three weeks. I friend of mine in NC received his Y6b?but sent back the tender account problems with the tender trucks. Harold Davenport

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3rd Rail's Y6a & Y6b are shipping. My Y6a arrived Monday. Has anyone else recieved theirs yet?
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From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 21:31:56 -0500
Subject: 3rd Rail Y6a & Y6b
References: <584997.3050.qm@web110808.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <F999E4EDBF234F34BC0BD99702C1F6F9@Jimmy>

I have the Y6a version. It is a very nice model. Runs very smooth. The only big issue that I have is that it comes with a cold water pump under the fireman's side. There are a couple of minor mistakes, but, I'll let others do the rivet counting. Knowing that the Y6a was pretty much an after thought and seeing what an amalgamation of Y eras the pilot model encompassed, Scott did an amazing job to bring this one back from the ashes so quickly.

I like that the sander nozzles are there as well as the water gauge on the tender.

I haven't seen the Y6b version yet. I just hope they aren't missing the cold water pump.

BTW, two road numbers of the Y6a were produced, #2156 & #2165. If anyone would like to trade a #2165 for a #2156, please let me know.

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Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 18:34:11 -0800
Subject: Canteens
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1952

Nigel 
http://www.linkedin.com/in/nigelmisso 
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> Hey guys need a little help here.  When did the N&W start running 
> canteens behind the A'sI have a fellow modler in my club who has two As 
> and I gave him a canteen to run behind one.  He said he is modeling the 
> 40s and they weren't run behind the A's.
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> Larry
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From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 21:16:19 -0500
Subject: 3rd Rail Y6a & Y6b
References: <243802.28808.qm@web180103.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5520A946301548BC94707D4BCE3119F8@Jimmy>

"but sent back the tender account problems with the tender trucks. Harold Davenport"

Harold,
    What kind of problem did he have with the trucks?
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From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 21:56:54 -0500
Subject: O scale Class M model anyone?
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Harold: O Scale

Scott had offered the M's for a long time but never got enough orders, now
dead ( yet he still list them on my reservation sheet).

PSC offered the M's and never got enough orders, now dead!

George Kohs has asked for suggestions and got a great response for the
Abington Branch N&W M's to be done, and possibly for Winston Salem
Southbound.

Update to Kohs coming in the near future

 

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Jimmy : I would like to have at least one M.  If we can get Scott to offer
two versions I would want one of each.  I would want one like #382 as used
on the Abingdon Branch with the high headlight and six wheel truck tender
and one like #475 with the centered headlight and USRA 10,000 gal tender.
Harold Davenport 

 

PS: If he would also offer the M in HO I would buy a couple if they had the
correct sized drivers. The earlier HO Sunset models had way undersized
drivers. HD  

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From: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
Subject: O scale Class M model anyone?
To: "NW Modeling List" <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 3:30 AM

Is anyone interested in trying to get an O scale Class M produced? 3rd Rail
would like to know.

Jimmy Lisle


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From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 19:24:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Norfolk Southern Business Locomotive #4271
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It would be strange to paint the F's in N&W red.  Southern heritage is much more appropriate.
Mike Rector




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Subject: Re: Norfolk Southern Business Locomotive #4271

Cal,

No sir, I did not forget. But 4610 is painted in SOUTHERN with the SOUTHERN logos, etc. And it is a LOCOMOTIVE. 

Gives me another idea - how about some hoppers in N&W "snellen" style! ;-)

Mark Peele

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> Mark, Jim, did
> you forget that all of 
> the business car fleet, some 20 odd, are in N&W
> colors.
> Cal
> Reynolds
> 
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>   Subject: RE: Norfolk
> Southern Business 
>   Locomotive #4271
>  
> Agreed! Jim Flummer
>  
> > Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 
>   12:44:42 -0800
> > Subject: Re: Norfolk Southern Business Locomotive 
>   #4271
> > To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
> > 
>   From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
> > 
>  
> > I'm very happy to see the F's in SOUTHERN
> tuxedo, a very nice nod to 
>   the SOUTHERN part of NS.
> > 
> > But it remains a thorn in my side 
>   that there isnt a NS loco paying homage to the NORFOLK
> side of NS while 
>   SOUTHERN has a green GP59 (#4610) and now these F units.
> > 
> > I 
>   nice N&W Red locomotive might relieve that thorny
> issue for me. 
>   ;-)
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From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 22:15:46 -0600
Subject: Canteens
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Your friend is right. Canteens began about 1952.    Jim Nichols

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Subject: Canteens

Hey guys need a little help here.  When did the N&W start running 
canteens behind the A'sI have a fellow modler in my club who has two As 
and I gave him a canteen to run behind one.  He said he is modeling the 
40s and they weren't run behind the A's.

Any help would be appreciated.

Larry
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Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 20:18:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Canteens
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He's correct. It was in the early 50's that they started to run them.

Mike Rector




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Hey guys need a little help here.  When did the N&W start running canteens behind the A'sI have a fellow modler in my club who has two As and I gave him a canteen to run behind one.  He said he is modeling the 40s and they weren't run behind the A's.

Any help would be appreciated.

Larry
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Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 07:07:36 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Norfolk Southern Business Locomotive #4271
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I'm not sure if anyone suggested the Fs should be in N&W.

But I am suggesting some loco should!

Mark
================================
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> From: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> Subject: Re: Norfolk Southern Business Locomotive #4271
> To: "NW Modeling List" <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 10:24 PM
> It would be strange to
> paint the F's in N&W red.? Southern heritage is
> much more appropriate.
> Mike Rector


      

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From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org (NW Modeling List)
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 10:44:40 -0500
Subject: 3rd Rail Y6a & Y6b
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Jimmy:

I do not believe you will have rivet counters critique this model as they
would have purchased the Kohs Y6a's.

The Sunset model generally is expected to have a certain number of flaws for
the price. Scott does not get into 

the different details as the roller or friction bearing tender trucks as
used on the different #'s of the Y6a. As a matter of fact,

as stated in the Kohs website, Sunset used the Kohs Y6b photo, not the
Sunset model, so what you saw is not what you get.

The Sunset models are a great value for what they are.  I sold my N&W
Buffalo and regret doing so. Still looking for one. 

Wish they would do the O Scale N&W  Z's, PSC's were worse than what Sunset
would have done.

Stephen Rineair

 

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I have the Y6a version. It is a very nice model. Runs very smooth. The only
big issue that I have is that it comes with a cold water pump under the
fireman's side. There are a couple of minor mistakes, but, I'll let others
do the rivet counting. Knowing that the Y6a was pretty much an after thought
and seeing what an amalgamation of Y eras the pilot model encompassed, Scott
did an amazing job to bring this one back from the ashes so quickly.

 

I like that the sander nozzles are there as well as the water gauge on the
tender.

 

I haven't seen the Y6b version yet. I just hope they aren't missing the cold
water pump.

 

BTW, two road numbers of the Y6a were produced, #2156 & #2165. If anyone
would like to trade a #2165 for a #2156, please let me know.

 

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Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 08:19:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: 3rd Rail Y6a & Y6b
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Jimmy: the wheel sets on the trucks would not all sit evenly on the track. Derailments and loss of electrical pick up resulted.? Harold

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"but sent back the tender account problems with the tender trucks. Harold Davenport"
?
Harold,
??? What kind of problem did he have with the trucks?
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Steve, 

 

My items that could and should be made are the t-6 I have asked Atlas to make this one and an S-6 as they have a chassis ready to go.

 

I do agree we need a good Z class of locomoitves.

 

Mike Ritschdorff
 


To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
Subject: RE: Brass project to be considered
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 09:46:35 -0500
From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org





The following are brass projects that I would like to have:
 
N&W RS3 ? being considered as an exclusive thru a dealer very limited (10 models only?)
N&W Jawn Henry ? orders request almost achieved for production  by Division Point
N&W V1 4-6-0 
N&W W6 0-8-0
N&W Abington Branch M?s 4-8-0
N&W M2 Automatic 
N&W dome car
N&W Z1a and Z1b in correct details ? too/too many mistakes on PSC model including wrong color on number boards
N&W GP9 Red and Bluebirds
N&W/CW  DL440/T6 
 
Any other suggestions?
Stephen Rineair
 
  		 	   		  
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