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<P>Thank you for the reminder! I have one or more drawing sets from the society - still packed away. I beleive I have Z1 and K2 sets, but not sure. As we get settled in, which is taking a lot longer than hoped due to job demands, I need to get the M and M2 sets.</P>
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<P>Nigel<BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "NW Modeling List" <nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org><BR>To: "NW Modeling List" <nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org><BR>Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2009 9:03:01 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific<BR>Subject: RE: 56" drivers was Re: model locomotive dimensions index?<BR><BR>Gee, guys, you could purchase drawings from the Archives covering the M<BR>class locomotives.................... <BR><BR>Gary Rolih Secretary N&WHS <BR><BR> <BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: nw-modeling-list-bounces@nwhs.org<BR>[mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces@nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Modeling List<BR>Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 2:43 PM<BR>To: 'NW Modeling List'<BR>Subject: RE: 56" drivers was Re: model locomotive dimensions index?<BR><BR>Kenneth<BR> I agree with Nigel for spare parts. I did the exact same thing for My BLI<BR>'A' and 'J' class locomotives, purchased additional for parts. Since I run<BR>present day Norfolk Southern with Steam excursions The spare locomotives sit<BR>in my roundhouse like they are undergoing restoration.<BR><BR><BR>Jon Kelley<BR>norfolknwestern1218@comcast.net<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: nw-modeling-list-bounces@nwhs.org<BR>[mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces@nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Modeling List<BR>Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 1:25 PM<BR>To: NW Modeling List<BR>Subject: Re: 56" drivers was Re: model locomotive dimensions index?<BR><BR>Hi Kenneth;<BR><BR>Bachmann - like all who manufacture in China can not get spare parts shipped<BR><BR>out without a license; the occasionally can get parts from warranty returns.<BR><BR>I figured with current pricing, just get a couple of 2-6-6-2 models for <BR>parts. Since the sound DCC version came out, the price on the non-DCC have <BR>dropped so far that I feel they're worth it for the parts.<BR><BR>Measurements - have done any yet, I do have one or more books with <BR>drawings - still packed up. Note that on the M classes the driver spacing <BR>is uneven, the M and M1 are the same, the M2 is different.<BR><BR>Nigel F Misso, PE<BR>http://www.linkedin.com/in/nigelmisso<BR>----- Original Message ----- <BR>From: "NW Modeling List" <nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org><BR>To: "NW Modeling List" <nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org><BR>Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 8:46 PM<BR>Subject: Re: 56" drivers was Re: model locomotive dimensions index?<BR><BR><BR>NW Modeling List wrote:<BR>> Hi Kenneth;<BR>><BR>> The small drivered Bachmann Spectrum 4-6-0, advertised as 52" drivers, <BR>> actually has 56" drivers (I measured 55½"). These are the same drivers as<BR><BR>> on the Spectrum 2-6-6-2.<BR><BR>It's funny you should mention that. I was just looking at the same<BR>model in my display case yesterday, and wondering how hard it would be<BR>to turn it into a 4-8-0. Have you attempted to get just the drivers<BR>from Bachmann?<BR><BR>> As far as making an M, my current plan, which has been delayed numerous <BR>> times to job and move, is to add an axle to the 56" drivered Spectrum <BR>> 4-6-0. The three axle positioning looks about right, and the cylinder <BR>> positioning with the four wheel lead truck sort of works out too.<BR><BR>I have no plans or drawings on an M, but I spent this morning attempting<BR>to scale dimensions from a broadside photo of one, based strictly on the<BR>56" driver diameter. I came up with 64" driver spacing, 16' total<BR>driver wheelbase, 24'2" from the rear axle to the center of the lead<BR>truck, 138" from the main driver centerline to the back of the<BR>cylinders, 7' wheelbase on the truck, and 28" diameter truck wheels.<BR>Does that sound about right?<BR><BR>I just measured my Bachmann 4-6-0. The axle spacing is 74", the lead<BR>truck wheelbase is 76", and the distance from the main driver to the<BR>back of the cylinders is 146". Again, does that compare favorably with<BR>your measurements? Can any parts, other than the drivers themselves, be<BR>used to model an M?<BR>-- <BR>Kenneth Rickman - krickman1@carolina.rr.com<BR>Salisbury, NC<BR><BR>If at first you don't succeed, use a bigger hammer!<BR>________________________________________<BR>NW-Modeling-List@nwhs.org<BR>To change your subscription go to<BR>http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-modeling-list<BR>Browse the NW-Modeling-List archives at<BR>http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-modeling-list/<BR><BR><BR>________________________________________<BR>NW-Modeling-List@nwhs.org<BR>To change your subscription go to<BR>http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-modeling-list<BR>Browse the NW-Modeling-List archives at<BR>http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-modeling-list/<BR>No virus found in this incoming message.<BR>Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com <BR>Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1876 - Release Date: 1/5/2009<BR>9:44 AM<BR><BR>________________________________________<BR>NW-Modeling-List@nwhs.org<BR>To change your subscription go to<BR>http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-modeling-list<BR>Browse the NW-Modeling-List archives at<BR>http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-modeling-list/<BR><BR>________________________________________<BR>NW-Modeling-List@nwhs.org<BR>To change your subscription go to<BR>http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-modeling-list<BR>Browse the NW-Modeling-List archives at<BR>http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-modeling-list/<BR></P></div></body></html>