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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>A reminder to all researching the whistle
sounds. Many of the video/DVD producers use sound from alternative sources
that is dubbed into the video they are producing if the original did not have
any sound recording made at the time. What you hear may not be related to what
you are seeing.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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[mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces@nwhs.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: DCC Decoder with a
Class J whistle?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>To go further, the 104 is heard whistling on one of Link's
recordings at the roundhouse at <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Bristol</st1:place></st1:City>.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re: DCC Decoder
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>One more question, if I may.<br>
What whistle was on the K1's?<br>
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Mike Rector<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, March 15, 2009
9:42:24 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: DCC Decoder with a
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>They did, Jim. The two E-2as used on the Clinch in the
late days, the 563 and 578, had J-style whistles, too, and they sounded better
on the Pacifics than they did on the streamlined engines, being out in the open
instead of down in a skyline casing. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I heard the 578 whistle echoing down the valleys east of
Honaker one day, and it'd make you homesick on your own back porch . . .</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re: DCC Decoder
with a Class J whistle?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I think I remember the <st1:place w:st="on">K2</st1:place>
streamliner whistles sounding the same as a J, but fifty years later, I can't
prove it. Jim Nichols</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re: DCC Decoder
with a Class J whistle?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Soundtraxx has just announced a new TSU-1000 made especially
for "Southern Railroads." This decoder features seven whistles
that can be selected; these are:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>N&W Class J No. 611</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><st1:place w:st="on"><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Crosby</span></font></st1:place><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> 3-Chime</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Lunkenheimer 3-Chime</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Southern Railway Single Chime</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Southern Railway 3-Chime</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Tweetsie Whistle (ETW&NC No. 12)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Part No. 826121, $119.00 suggested retail.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I have not heard any of these, and do not know if this
decoder is yet available.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>On another note, since N&W did not operate the A and J
class locos on the <st1:place w:st="on">Shenandoah Valley</st1:place> line,
what whistle would be appropriate for the K-2 streamlined locos? Is it
the same as used in the Class J? I've got several old Key brass locos to
work on, and I might was well put sound in them too!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>N&W passenger whistles on steam
locomotives consisted of three tones, the lowest normally sounding around 230
cps. The other two created what musically is referred to as a “major
triad”. The tuning of all three notes could vary due to changes in the
pressure of the steam passing through the whistle. Coincidentally, the SP
G4s used the same whistle. Soundtraxx offers this whistle (as a G4) in
their “large steam” Tsunami decoder. They also offer the Frisco 1522
which is a major triad. BWL has 611’s whistle programmed into their
N&W class J decoder, but the tone is very raspy compared to the real thing,
and I don’t know if you can buy the sound decoder separately. I recommend
the Tsunami – or if you need a little more current capacity, use Soundtraxx’s
DSX sound-only decoder and put some 1.5 amp power decoder in parallel to run
the motor.<br>
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Bob Folsom<br>
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font-family:Verdana'>Does any company make a Class J whistle that is acceptable
from the factory?<br>
I realize that there are some programmable decoders out there, too... is that a
better option?<br>
I have an HO Spectrum J and a Key K2a I would like to install them in.<br>
Thank you for any advice....<br>
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Mike Rector<br>
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