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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Gary:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>How would the
paint committee be selected?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Stephen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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nw-modeling-list-bounces@nwhs.org [mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces@nwhs.org] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>NW Modeling List<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 16, 2009 2:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'NW Modeling List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: DP Passenger Cars<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Jim is right as is Bill McClure. The best that a paint
committee can do is provide a model standard color to manufacturers so,
hopefully, the models all have a similar color. It may or may not be
prototypical- and it shouldn’t be due to lighting differences from
sunlight to indoor lighting. Is this what the modeling community is
seeking? What do you think? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:navy'>Gary Rolih<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:navy'>Secretary N&WHS <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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nw-modeling-list-bounces@nwhs.org [mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces@nwhs.org] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>NW Modeling List<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:06 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'NW Modeling List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: DP Passenger Cars</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The alternative, of course, is for each modeler to paint his
own. I do that, but obviously a lot of people don’t want to or
don’t feel competent to do so. We could have a self-appointed
“paint” committee; but my guess is that they wouldn’t be able
to build consensus either. Otherwise, why has this argument gone on for twenty
five years? We just have to live with it, and rejoice when somebody paints a
model in a shade which looks good to us. The color on the DP car could be better,
but I don’t think it is unacceptable. But then, I don’t intend to
pay that high a price for an M1. I will build one with plastic and paint it
with my personal version of N&W Tuscan. BTW, the detail work on the DP
model is excellent. Jim Nichols<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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nw-modeling-list-bounces@nwhs.org [mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces@nwhs.org] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>NW Modeling List<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 15, 2009 12:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> DP Passenger Cars<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif"'>There
is no question the NWHS Modeling Committee should be flogged then fired for not
getting the color "right". Again! </span><br>
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But, then, we wouldn't have the cars at all without their efforts...<br>
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<span style='font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif"'>What good is having the
cars if they can't get the paint "right"? </span><br>
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But they provided the data to the importer....<br>
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<span style='font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif"'>Yeah, but what good is
that if the builder ignores it or gets it wrong!<br>
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Yada, yada, yada.... Boring!<br>
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*****<br>
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Some builders are committed to accuracy and are willing to work with folks;
some are not. Rich Yoder worked tirelessly with a group of members to get his
VGN gons as "right" as possible and should be praised for so doing.
Sunset is doing the same thing for its VGN AE project. But at the end of the
day, the projects belong to the vendors, not to us. We vote with our pocket
books.<br>
<br>
Just a thought: if we can't agree on N&W Tuscan...and I have yet to see a
consensus...then how is a manufacturer to know? (Don't tell me color drift
cards, because there is a big difference between that color...pick a
color...and the same color on an HO model under indoor lighting.) The Pennsy
group has worked for years, without a conclusion, trying to build consensus on
scale mixes for PRR Tuscan, Brunswick Green, and Freight Car Color. At the end
of the day, ya' likes what ya' likes. I'm just thrilled that in 2001 a builder
is willing to tackle something as obscure as a one-off class of N&W RPO!<br>
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Now about those VGN heavyweights....<br>
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Bill McClure<o:p></o:p></p>
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