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Harold,<br>
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So as we go in circles about what are the right shades for N&W colors
and the ongoing problem with model manufactures using inconsistent colors
when painting their models…………….<br>
<br>
What I did back in the 70's when I was doing a lot of brass (and plastic)
painting was to choose "my" N&W standard colors from
available paints at that time. For N&W Red I used Scalecoat PRR #14
Caboose Red (Scalecoat wasn't producing N&W Red at that time) and for
Pevler Blue I used Scalecoat AT&SF #24 Blue . When Scalecoat II
became available both these colors were also produced in Scalecoat
II. I continue to use these Scalecoat colors as my standards for
painting N&W equipment today.<br>
<br>
We need to have N&W standard paints/colors for the following?<br>
<br>
Passenger Red <br>
Roof Brown<br>
Pevler Blue<br>
Cab (caboose) Red<br>
MofW Green<br>
MofW Gray<br>
Others?<br>
<br>
So why couldn't the N&WHS Modeling Committee evaluate currently
available model railroad paints and select a best matching color for each
N&W color and make these the N&WHS, N&W standard colors for
modeling? We could then provide these to model manufactures………. and
likewise individual modelers wers would have the knowledge to use them
for custom painting. <br>
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I'm sure there would still be individuals who wouldn't be happy for one
reason of the another about the specific colors chosen…..but aat least
there would be standards and could optimistically look forward to color
consistency from model manufacturers in the future.<br>
<br>
Ed Painter, Narrows, VA living in Russellville, AR<br>
<br>
<b>From:</b> nw-modeling-list-bounces@nwhs.org
[<a href="mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces@nwhs.org" eudora="autourl">
mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces@nwhs.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>NW
Modeling List<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 16, 2009 8:11 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'NW Modeling List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Division Point N&W passenger cars BEj<br>
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Harold:<br>
As you stated, you supplied the photo of a freshly painted M1, is the
color of the roof supposed to be brown or black? <br>
Did DP get it correct according to your photo? <br>
<br>
Second, if you are referring to me about needing a blue version of a BEj,
you should have read my post. I need a blue version of a BMj<br>
<br>
If one is painting an N&W blue locomotive, most modelers use C&O
blue, SF blue, B&O blue, or dark blue. Please note! All
of these blues are very close in the spectrum. The reds that our
society wants to consider acceptable are at one end of the red spectrum
to the other. It is common sense that we as a society can at least
narrow the red spectrum. The DP cars are on the far end of the
spectrum of maroon/red/pink. There will always be personal choices
of shades of red as there are shades of the blue mentioned above.
As for a paint committee, isn’t that what the model committee is
responsible for also? Paint is part of the model. <br>
<br>
What do you suggest to be done for the next car by DP? <br>
<br>
I expect variations from manufacturers to manufacturers. If we can
get the blues schemes close to each other, why can’t we get the reds
and be happy that they’re just close together? As far as the
lighting of my photos of the models, they were taken outside in natural
light. The DP photos are poor examples of the model showing shadows
from dark to light. One last thing, remember I stated that the
color was my take on the model. Other people are certainly allowed
to like or dislike it as they please.<br>
<br>
Stephen Rineair<br>
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Ed: you stated the obvious regarding the color of the red. The photo I
supplied DP was of an M1 freshly painted. What red DP choose to paint the
car is their business. If anyone wants to see the M1 models in a properly
lit photo go to
<a href="http://www.DivisionPoint.com">www.DivisionPoint.com</a>. There
are two photos of the painted models under the N&W heavyweight pass.
car listing. Also if someone is looking for a blue version of a BEj
photo one can be found on page 5 of Jim Nichols book - N&W Color
Guide to Freight and Passenger Equipment. Any serious N&W modeler
will have a copy of Jim's book and would have known that a photo of the
BEj was within. Also railway postal cars did not have
"venetian blinds" but were required to have barred windows
account the carrying of certified mail containing cash and other
valuables.
Harold Davenport<br><br>
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