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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Ed:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>What is the
Scalecoat item # for the PRR Tuscan Red that you use?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:14.0pt;color:black'>Stephen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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nw-modeling-list-bounces@nwhs.org [mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces@nwhs.org] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>NW Modeling List<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 17, 2009 10:46 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> nw-modeling-list@nwhs.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Division Point N&W passenger cars BEj<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Harold,<br>
<br>
So as we go in circles about what are the right shades for N&W colors and
the ongoing problem with model manufactures using inconsistent colors when
painting their models…………….<br>
<br>
What I did back in the 70's when I was doing a lot of brass (and plastic)
painting was to choose "my" N&W standard colors from available
paints at that time. For N&W Red I used Scalecoat PRR #14 Caboose Red
(Scalecoat wasn't producing N&W Red at that time) and for Pevler Blue I
used Scalecoat AT&SF #24 Blue . When Scalecoat II became available both
these colors were also produced in Scalecoat II. I continue to use these
Scalecoat colors as my standards for painting N&W equipment today.<br>
<br>
We need to have N&W standard paints/colors for the following?<br>
<br>
Passenger Red <br>
Roof Brown<br>
Pevler Blue<br>
Cab (caboose) Red<br>
MofW Green<br>
MofW Gray<br>
Others?<br>
<br>
So why couldn't the N&WHS Modeling Committee evaluate currently available
model railroad paints and select a best matching color for each N&W color
and make these the N&WHS, N&W standard colors for modeling? We
could then provide these to model manufactures………. and likewise individual
modelers wers would have the knowledge to use them for custom painting. <br>
<br>
I'm sure there would still be individuals who wouldn't be happy for one reason
of the another about the specific colors chosen…..but aat least there would be
standards and could optimistically look forward to color consistency from model
manufacturers in the future.<br>
<br>
Ed Painter, Narrows, VA living in Russellville, AR<br>
<br>
<b>From:</b> nw-modeling-list-bounces@nwhs.org [<a
href="mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces@nwhs.org">
mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces@nwhs.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>NW Modeling
List<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 16, 2009 8:11 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'NW Modeling List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Division Point N&W passenger cars BEj<br>
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Harold:<br>
As you stated, you supplied the photo of a freshly painted M1, is the color of
the roof supposed to be brown or black? <br>
Did DP get it correct according to your photo? <br>
<br>
Second, if you are referring to me about needing a blue version of a BEj, you
should have read my post. I need a blue version of a BMj<br>
<br>
If one is painting an N&W blue locomotive, most modelers use C&O blue,
SF blue, B&O blue, or dark blue. Please note! All of these
blues are very close in the spectrum. The reds that our society wants to
consider acceptable are at one end of the red spectrum to the other. It
is common sense that we as a society can at least narrow the red
spectrum. The DP cars are on the far end of the spectrum of
maroon/red/pink. There will always be personal choices of shades of red
as there are shades of the blue mentioned above. As for a paint
committee, isn’t that what the model committee is responsible for also?
Paint is part of the model. <br>
<br>
What do you suggest to be done for the next car by DP? <br>
<br>
I expect variations from manufacturers to manufacturers. If we can get
the blues schemes close to each other, why can’t we get the reds and be happy
that they’re just close together? As far as the lighting of my photos
of the models, they were taken outside in natural light. The DP photos
are poor examples of the model showing shadows from dark to light. One
last thing, remember I stated that the color was my take on the model.
Other people are certainly allowed to like or dislike it as they please.<br>
<br>
Stephen Rineair<br>
<br>
Ed: you stated the obvious regarding the color of the red. The photo I supplied
DP was of an M1 freshly painted. What red DP choose to paint the car is their
business. If anyone wants to see the M1 models in a properly lit photo go to <a
href="http://www.DivisionPoint.com">www.DivisionPoint.com</a>. There are two
photos of the painted models under the N&W heavyweight pass. car listing.
Also if someone is looking for a blue version of a BEj photo one can be
found on page 5 of Jim Nichols book - N&W Color Guide to Freight and
Passenger Equipment. Any serious N&W modeler will have a copy of Jim's book
and would have known that a photo of the BEj was within. Also railway
postal cars did not have "venetian blinds" but were required to have
barred windows account the carrying of certified mail containing cash and other
valuables.
Harold Davenport<o:p></o:p></p>
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