From jayl at sonicbunny.org Wed Apr 13 10:10:50 2005 From: jayl at sonicbunny.org (Jay Lyerly) Date: Wed Apr 13 10:10:52 2005 Subject: [pssh-users] import private keys on treo650 Message-ID: Hi, I'm having trouble importing keys on a treo 650. When I go to the import screen, there's nothing listed there. I have several variations of keys in my Memos application and several other random text notes. On the treo, the memopad style application is called 'Memos'. Is it possible that pssh is looking for another application's data? I seem to recall an old palm having a 'Memo Pad' or 'Notepad' application. I'm sort of grasping at straws here, but I can't get anywhere on importing keys. Is there any other mechanism for importing keys? thanks, jay From cae at bklyn.org Wed Apr 13 10:15:46 2005 From: cae at bklyn.org (Caleb Epstein) Date: Wed Apr 13 10:16:10 2005 Subject: [pssh-users] import private keys on treo650 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050413141546.GB19025@bklyn.org> On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 10:10:50AM -0400, Jay Lyerly wrote: > Hi, > > I'm having trouble importing keys on a treo 650. When I go to the > import screen, there's nothing listed there. I have several variations > of keys in my Memos application and several other random text notes. > On the treo, the memopad style application is called 'Memos'. Is it > possible that pssh is looking for another application's data? I seem > to recall an old palm having a 'Memo Pad' or 'Notepad' application. I think thats it. On my Treo 600, the Import screen says "Choose the Memo Pad memo containing the key to import". It must depend on the app being called Memo Pad :( A copy/paste style of import would probably be nice ot have so you could use it regardless of where the data came from. -- | | BOFH excuse #317: Caleb Epstein | bklyn . org | cae at | Brooklyn Dust | Internet exceeded Luser level, please wait bklyn dot org | Bunny Mfg. | until a luser logs off before attempting to | | log back on. From cjb at mrao.cam.ac.uk Wed Apr 13 11:03:56 2005 From: cjb at mrao.cam.ac.uk (Chris Ball) Date: Wed Apr 13 11:04:08 2005 Subject: [pssh-users] import private keys on treo650 In-Reply-To: (Jay Lyerly's message of "Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:10:50 -0400") References: Message-ID: Jay, > I'm having trouble importing keys on a treo 650. When I go to the > import screen, there's nothing listed there. I have several > variations of keys in my Memos application and several other random > text notes. On the treo, the memopad style application is called > 'Memos'. Is it possible that pssh is looking for another > application's data? I seem to recall an old palm having a 'Memo > Pad' or 'Notepad' application. Yes, I think that's the case. I don't have a Treo, but this web page: http://forums.palmone.com/pe/action/forums/displaypost?postID=20175402 suggests that the name of the MemoDB on the new Treos is 'MemoDB-PMem', which would make this the obvious patch to get pssh working for you: --- data/memolist.c.old 2005-04-13 15:53:44.000000000 +0100 +++ data/memolist.c 2005-04-13 15:54:00.000000000 +0100 @@ -30,7 +30,7 @@ #include "memolist.h" -#define MemoDBName "MemoDB" +#define MemoDBName "MemoDB-PMem" static DmOpenRef MemoDB = 0; static RecordList *MemoList = NULL; .. but I don't know whether a patch is useful to you, and this isn't the correct fix (which would be to work out which environment we're in at runtime and use the correct DB). Hopefully the information is useful, at least. - Chris. -- Chris Ball Inference Group: From jayl at sonicbunny.org Wed Apr 13 11:42:57 2005 From: jayl at sonicbunny.org (Jay Lyerly) Date: Wed Apr 13 11:42:59 2005 Subject: [pssh-users] import private keys on treo650 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <582aa1c3ab07904e58597e568c7b78e4@sonicbunny.org> On Apr 13, 2005, at 11:03 AM, Chris Ball wrote: > Jay, > >> I'm having trouble importing keys on a treo 650. When I go to the >> import screen, there's nothing listed there. I have several >> variations of keys in my Memos application and several other random >> text notes. On the treo, the memopad style application is called >> 'Memos'. Is it possible that pssh is looking for another >> application's data? I seem to recall an old palm having a 'Memo >> Pad' or 'Notepad' application. > > Yes, I think that's the case. I don't have a Treo, but this web page: > > http://forums.palmone.com/pe/action/forums/displaypost?postID=20175402 > > suggests that the name of the MemoDB on the new Treos is 'MemoDB-PMem', > which would make this the obvious patch to get pssh working for you: > > --- data/memolist.c.old 2005-04-13 15:53:44.000000000 +0100 > +++ data/memolist.c 2005-04-13 15:54:00.000000000 +0100 > @@ -30,7 +30,7 @@ > #include "memolist.h" > > > -#define MemoDBName "MemoDB" > +#define MemoDBName "MemoDB-PMem" > static DmOpenRef MemoDB = 0; > static RecordList *MemoList = NULL; > > > .. but I don't know whether a patch is useful to you, and this isn't > the correct fix (which would be to work out which environment we're > in at runtime and use the correct DB). Hopefully the information is > useful, at least. > > - Chris. > -- > Chris Ball > Inference Group: > Okay, trying to compile pssh to make the fix. I grabbed the latest prc-tools, pilrc v3.2 and peal as prescribed in README.code on my powermac g5. pilrc compiled and installed fine and I ran the installer for prc-tools and didn't see any problems. However, when I try to compile, it bombs out with this error. The SysZlib stuff looks like warnings (important?), but the problem seems to be keyUpEvent is undefined in main.c. Am I missing some other package I need to build? thx, jay m68k-palmos-gcc -Os -W -Wall -Wundef -Wshadow -Wmissing-declarations -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wno-format -Wuninitialized -I. -Iutil -Iutil/oem -Irsrc -c main.c -o build/main.o In file included from main.c:31: util/oem/SysZLib.h:147: warning: no previous prototype for `SysZLib_OpenLibrary' util/oem/SysZLib.h: In function `SysZLib_OpenLibrary': util/oem/SysZLib.h:148: warning: declaration of `fatal' shadows global declaration util/oem/SysZLib.h: At top level: util/oem/SysZLib.h:179: warning: no previous prototype for `SysZLib_CloseLibrary' util/oem/SysZLib.h: In function `SysZLib_CloseLibrary': util/oem/SysZLib.h:180: warning: declaration of `fatal' shadows global declaration main.c: At top level: main.c:72: warning: no previous prototype for `OpenDB' main.c: In function `PilotMain': main.c:413: warning: missing initializer main.c:413: warning: (near initialization for `e.penDown') main.c:461: `keyUpEvent' undeclared (first use in this function) main.c:461: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once main.c:461: for each function it appears in.) main.c:383: warning: unused variable `lastEventType' main.c:480: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned main.c:266: warning: unused variable `version' main.c:265: warning: unused variable `loopcount' main.c:472: warning: label `done' defined but not used main.c:263: warning: unused parameter `cmdPBP' make: *** [build/main.o] Error 1 From diamondsw at mac.com Wed Apr 13 12:54:21 2005 From: diamondsw at mac.com (Diamond Software) Date: Wed Apr 13 12:54:26 2005 Subject: [pssh-users] import private keys on treo650 References: Message-ID: <001d01c54049$71294ed0$97df4109@blacklightning> > .. but I don't know whether a patch is useful to you, and this isn't > the correct fix (which would be to work out which environment we're > in at runtime and use the correct DB). Hopefully the information is > useful, at least. I'd say the correct approach would be to allow using either the clipboard contents or a file on an SD card. That way you're isolated from any other changes in the Memo Pad application, and it makes key exchange especially easy for users with SD cards (like most Treo users). I'd place higher priority on the clipboard idea, as it would support everything. (Of course, all credit for that idea goes to Caleb Epstein.) Just a thought. - Joshua Ochs From pet at trewhella.com Fri Apr 15 13:48:55 2005 From: pet at trewhella.com (Phillip E.Trewhella) Date: Fri Apr 15 13:49:05 2005 Subject: [pssh-users] Thoroughly Confused Message-ID: <54c9b304ebac1509b379687ae56956a0@trewhella.com> The 12-30 pssh build that Greg has posted works fine on my Treo 650. I decided to tweak a few things specific to how I work, so I downloaded the source to see if I could build it first. After much messing around with various header/library combinations downloaded from palmOne, I finally found the stuff I needed (sdk-5r3). Now I can successfully build pssh. The problem is that when I install it on my phone, then launch it, my phone immediately reboots. Obviously my app has somehow written to a bad memory location. I have not modified the source yet, so I am assuming there is a problem with my build environment. Any help is appreciated. Here are the details: Mac OS X 10.3.8 pssh-source-2004_12_30 peal-2004_12_29 palmos-sdk-5.0r3 PilRC v3.1 PRC-Tools-r3 (from http://www.zenonez.com/prctoolsx/) Another thing I don't understand is that the build invokes both the 68k and ARM cross compilers. When I try to run pssh under the Garnet simulator (which currently runs only under Windows), it complains that I'm not running on an ARM processor and quits. When I try to run it under the Palm OS Emulator, the emulator bombs becuase pssh is calling a function that doesn't exist. Is there a way I can run this in an emulator? Thanks for the help and a great piece of software. Phil -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 1358 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/pssh-users/attachments/20050415/c7fef92d/attachment.bin From pet at trewhella.com Sat Apr 16 03:42:01 2005 From: pet at trewhella.com (Phillip E.Trewhella) Date: Sat Apr 16 03:42:07 2005 Subject: [pssh-users] Thoroughly Confused In-Reply-To: <54c9b304ebac1509b379687ae56956a0@trewhella.com> References: <54c9b304ebac1509b379687ae56956a0@trewhella.com> Message-ID: Okay, so after employing some primitive debugging techniques (littering the code with FrmCustomAlert() calls), I was able to determine the code that is executed when my Treo 650 reboots. The first call to PealCall() is the culprit, and I have no idea why or how to fix it. In the code snippet below, I get the "PealLookupSymbol() okay" message, and then a reboot. I never see the message after the call to PealCall(). Any takers? void RAND_init(void) { static void *sym = NULL; if (!sym) sym = PealLookupSymbol(arm_module, __FUNCTION__ "_stub"); if (!sym) fatal("no ARM symbol %s", __FUNCTION__ "_stub"); FrmCustomAlert(AlertFormID, "PealLookupSymbol() okay", " ", " "); PealCall(arm_module, sym, 0); FrmCustomAlert(AlertFormID, "PealCall() okay", " ", " "); } On Apr 15, 2005, at 10:48 AM, Phillip E.Trewhella wrote: > The 12-30 pssh build that Greg has posted works fine on my Treo 650. > I decided to tweak a few things specific to how I work, so I > downloaded the source to see if I could build it first. After much > messing around with various header/library combinations downloaded > from palmOne, I finally found the stuff I needed (sdk-5r3). Now I can > successfully build pssh. The problem is that when I install it on my > phone, then launch it, my phone immediately reboots. Obviously my app > has somehow written to a bad memory location. I have not modified the > source yet, so I am assuming there is a problem with my build > environment. Any help is appreciated. Here are the details: > > Mac OS X 10.3.8 > pssh-source-2004_12_30 > peal-2004_12_29 > palmos-sdk-5.0r3 > PilRC v3.1 > PRC-Tools-r3 (from http://www.zenonez.com/prctoolsx/) > > Another thing I don't understand is that the build invokes both the > 68k and ARM cross compilers. When I try to run pssh under the Garnet > simulator (which currently runs only under Windows), it complains that > I'm not running on an ARM processor and quits. When I try to run it > under the Palm OS Emulator, the emulator bombs becuase pssh is calling > a function that doesn't exist. Is there a way I can run this in an > emulator? > > Thanks for the help and a great piece of software. > > Phil_______________________________________________ > pssh-users mailing list > pssh-users@sealiesoftware.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/pssh-users -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 2397 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/pssh-users/attachments/20050416/20a987d4/attachment.bin From gparker-pssh at sealiesoftware.com Sat Apr 16 18:19:23 2005 From: gparker-pssh at sealiesoftware.com (Greg Parker) Date: Sat Apr 16 18:19:24 2005 Subject: [pssh-users] Thoroughly Confused In-Reply-To: <54c9b304ebac1509b379687ae56956a0@trewhella.com> References: <54c9b304ebac1509b379687ae56956a0@trewhella.com> Message-ID: <16993.36715.832819.150982@kaazh.pair.com> Phillip E.Trewhella writes: > The 12-30 pssh build that Greg has posted works fine on my Treo 650. I > decided to tweak a few things specific to how I work, so I downloaded > the source to see if I could build it first. The current pssh source is difficult to build, and I still haven't updated the build instructions to match. Most likely, there are nasty error messages in the build log that gcc prints but then ignores, for some reason. The easiest way to get a working build is to edit arm/Makefile and remove all -mthumb and -mcallee-super-interworking options. This will build pssh as pure ARM code instead of Thumb code, which means it will take more memory than my version. Building the Thumb-enabled version requires modified versions of gcc's own libraries. > Another thing I don't understand is that the build invokes both the 68k > and ARM cross compilers. When I try to run pssh under the Garnet > simulator (which currently runs only under Windows), it complains that > I'm not running on an ARM processor and quits. When I try to run it > under the Palm OS Emulator, the emulator bombs becuase pssh is calling > a function that doesn't exist. Is there a way I can run this in an > emulator? Short answer: no. Long answer: pssh does not run on the old Emulator, because the Emulator doesn't do Palm OS 5 or ARM code. pssh does not run on the newer Simulator, because the Simulator doesn't do ARM code either. (Instead, the Simulator requires that ARM code be recompiled as i386 DLLs.) For my own development, I use the debug_printf() function, which prints a message at the top of the screen, and Cocoa Palm Reporter and HostTraceGlue from http://sourceforge.net/projects/osx-palm-tools . -- Greg Parker gparker-pssh@sealiesoftware.com From pet at trewhella.com Sat Apr 16 21:00:16 2005 From: pet at trewhella.com (Phillip E.Trewhella) Date: Sat Apr 16 21:00:27 2005 Subject: [pssh-users] Thoroughly Confused In-Reply-To: <16993.36715.832819.150982@kaazh.pair.com> References: <54c9b304ebac1509b379687ae56956a0@trewhella.com> <16993.36715.832819.150982@kaazh.pair.com> Message-ID: <85f21fb770a1deaedad2f04ffd44e64b@trewhella.com> Greg, Removing the -mthumb and -mcallee-super-interworking options did the trick. Thanks much. Phil On Apr 16, 2005, at 3:19 PM, Greg Parker wrote: > Phillip E.Trewhella writes: >> The 12-30 pssh build that Greg has posted works fine on my Treo 650. >> I >> decided to tweak a few things specific to how I work, so I downloaded >> the source to see if I could build it first. > > The current pssh source is difficult to build, and I still haven't > updated the build instructions to match. Most likely, there are > nasty error messages in the build log that gcc prints but then > ignores, for some reason. > > The easiest way to get a working build is to edit arm/Makefile > and remove all -mthumb and -mcallee-super-interworking options. > This will build pssh as pure ARM code instead of Thumb code, > which means it will take more memory than my version. Building > the Thumb-enabled version requires modified versions of gcc's > own libraries. > > >> Another thing I don't understand is that the build invokes both the >> 68k >> and ARM cross compilers. When I try to run pssh under the Garnet >> simulator (which currently runs only under Windows), it complains that >> I'm not running on an ARM processor and quits. When I try to run it >> under the Palm OS Emulator, the emulator bombs becuase pssh is calling >> a function that doesn't exist. Is there a way I can run this in an >> emulator? > > Short answer: no. > > Long answer: pssh does not run on the old Emulator, because the > Emulator doesn't do Palm OS 5 or ARM code. pssh does not run on > the newer Simulator, because the Simulator doesn't do ARM code > either. (Instead, the Simulator requires that ARM code be > recompiled as i386 DLLs.) > > For my own development, I use the debug_printf() function, which > prints a message at the top of the screen, and Cocoa Palm Reporter > and HostTraceGlue from http://sourceforge.net/projects/osx-palm-tools . > > > -- > Greg Parker gparker-pssh@sealiesoftware.com > From gparker-pssh at sealiesoftware.com Sun Apr 17 00:02:54 2005 From: gparker-pssh at sealiesoftware.com (Greg Parker) Date: Sun Apr 17 00:02:56 2005 Subject: [pssh-users] import private keys on treo650 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16993.57326.471156.592517@kaazh.pair.com> Jay Lyerly writes: > I'm having trouble importing keys on a treo 650. When I go to the > import screen, there's nothing listed there. I have several variations > of keys in my Memos application and several other random text notes. > On the treo, the memopad style application is called 'Memos'. Is it > possible that pssh is looking for another application's data? I seem > to recall an old palm having a 'Memo Pad' or 'Notepad' application. The Treo 650 (along with several other new Palm OS devices) uses a new storage format for memos. It's supposed to automatically create the old-style memo database when programs like pssh try to use it, but apparently that's not working. The problem might be that pssh opens the MemoDB by name, but the compatibility hack only works if the database is opened by type and creator. This test version of pssh does it that way. Can you (and anyone else with a Treo 650 or Tungsten T5) try it and let me know if it works? http://www.sealiesoftware.com/pssh/dist/pssh-debug100.prc -- Greg Parker gparker-pssh@sealiesoftware.com From tpe at ida.liu.se Sun Apr 17 10:35:46 2005 From: tpe at ida.liu.se (Tommy Persson) Date: Sun Apr 17 10:36:08 2005 Subject: [pssh-users] pssh, emacs and palmOne Universal Wireless Keyboard Message-ID: <200504171435.j3HEZkxu011368@gedrix.ida.liu.se> I am trying to use pssh, a T5 and an Universal Wireless Keyboard to run emacs remoteley and it worked really good except for the Ctrl key. So is it possible to get the Ctrl key on the keyboard and more importantly the Caps Lock key to work as ordinary Ctrl keys? Maybe there was an issue with Escape also. The top left key should ideally work as Escape. /Tommy Persson From gparker-pssh at sealiesoftware.com Sun Apr 17 16:34:15 2005 From: gparker-pssh at sealiesoftware.com (Greg Parker) Date: Sun Apr 17 16:34:17 2005 Subject: [pssh-users] pssh, emacs and palmOne Universal Wireless Keyboard In-Reply-To: <200504171435.j3HEZkxu011368@gedrix.ida.liu.se> References: <200504171435.j3HEZkxu011368@gedrix.ida.liu.se> Message-ID: <16994.51271.769239.541275@kaazh.pair.com> Tommy Persson writes: > I am trying to use pssh, a T5 and an Universal Wireless Keyboard to > run emacs remoteley and it worked really good except for the Ctrl key. > So is it possible to get the Ctrl key on the keyboard and more > importantly the Caps Lock key to work as ordinary Ctrl keys? Ctrl should be feasible. Caps Lock might not, depending how the hardware and software works. Can you run this program: http://www.sealiesoftware.com/keylogger.prc and send me its output when you press various keys? Include at least: ctrl (on its own) 'd' shift-'d' ctrl-'d' caps lock (on its own) 'd' with caps lock down If a key generates no output, record that. If there are any other interesting keys on the keyboard, go ahead and send their output too. > Maybe there was an issue with Escape also. The top left key should > ideally work as Escape. In the picture I found, the top-left key is ~/`. A preference to translate that to Esc would be possible, but ~ and ` are rather useful too. Is there a key labeled Esc on the keyboard? Does it work as expected? -- Greg Parker gparker-pssh@sealiesoftware.com From jayl at sonicbunny.org Sun Apr 17 17:20:00 2005 From: jayl at sonicbunny.org (Jay Lyerly) Date: Sun Apr 17 17:20:36 2005 Subject: [pssh-users] import private keys on treo650 In-Reply-To: <16993.57326.471156.592517@kaazh.pair.com> References: <16993.57326.471156.592517@kaazh.pair.com> Message-ID: <671-SnapperMsg8E722DDFBE88839E@10.216.34.70> No change. I see the same behavior, nothing listed when I try to do the import. Another test? Perhaps one trying to open the new filename, just to see if it works? Thanks, jay ...... Original Message ....... On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 00:02:54 -0400 "Greg Parker" wrote: >Jay Lyerly writes: >> I'm having trouble importing keys on a treo 650. When I go to the >> import screen, there's nothing listed there. I have several variations >> of keys in my Memos application and several other random text notes. >> On the treo, the memopad style application is called 'Memos'. Is it >> possible that pssh is looking for another application's data? I seem >> to recall an old palm having a 'Memo Pad' or 'Notepad' application. > >The Treo 650 (along with several other new Palm OS devices) uses >a new storage format for memos. It's supposed to automatically >create the old-style memo database when programs like pssh try >to use it, but apparently that's not working. > >The problem might be that pssh opens the MemoDB by name, but the >compatibility hack only works if the database is opened by type >and creator. This test version of pssh does it that way. Can you >(and anyone else with a Treo 650 or Tungsten T5) try it and let >me know if it works? >http://www.sealiesoftware.com/pssh/dist/pssh-debug100.prc > > >-- >Greg Parker gparker-pssh@sealiesoftware.com > From pet at trewhella.com Sun Apr 17 19:18:29 2005 From: pet at trewhella.com (Phillip E.Trewhella) Date: Sun Apr 17 19:18:35 2005 Subject: [pssh-users] import private keys on treo650 In-Reply-To: <671-SnapperMsg8E722DDFBE88839E@10.216.34.70> References: <16993.57326.471156.592517@kaazh.pair.com> <671-SnapperMsg8E722DDFBE88839E@10.216.34.70> Message-ID: Importing keys works fine for me on my Treo 650. I used "install-memo" from pilot-link, then imported the key from pssh. No problems. I have no other random text notes in my memos. In fact, I only have the one key. Have you tried removing all of the other memos? Phil On Apr 17, 2005, at 2:20 PM, Jay Lyerly wrote: > No change. I see the same behavior, nothing listed when I try to do > the > import. Another test? Perhaps one trying to open the new filename, > just > to see if it works? > > Thanks, > jay > > ...... Original Message ....... > On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 00:02:54 -0400 "Greg Parker" > wrote: >> Jay Lyerly writes: >>> I'm having trouble importing keys on a treo 650. When I go to the >>> import screen, there's nothing listed there. I have several >>> variations >>> of keys in my Memos application and several other random text notes. >>> On the treo, the memopad style application is called 'Memos'. Is it >>> possible that pssh is looking for another application's data? I seem >>> to recall an old palm having a 'Memo Pad' or 'Notepad' application. >> >> The Treo 650 (along with several other new Palm OS devices) uses >> a new storage format for memos. It's supposed to automatically >> create the old-style memo database when programs like pssh try >> to use it, but apparently that's not working. >> >> The problem might be that pssh opens the MemoDB by name, but the >> compatibility hack only works if the database is opened by type >> and creator. This test version of pssh does it that way. Can you >> (and anyone else with a Treo 650 or Tungsten T5) try it and let >> me know if it works? >> http://www.sealiesoftware.com/pssh/dist/pssh-debug100.prc >> >> >> -- >> Greg Parker gparker-pssh@sealiesoftware.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > pssh-users mailing list > pssh-users@sealiesoftware.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/pssh-users > From storm at iparadigms.com Mon Apr 18 12:46:38 2005 From: storm at iparadigms.com (Christian Storm) Date: Mon Apr 18 12:46:58 2005 Subject: [pssh-users] import private keys on treo650 In-Reply-To: <16993.57326.471156.592517@kaazh.pair.com> References: <16993.57326.471156.592517@kaazh.pair.com> Message-ID: <5e1081babde382208afcac04556c42ae@iparadigms.com> > The Treo 650 (along with several other new Palm OS devices) uses > a new storage format for memos. It's supposed to automatically > create the old-style memo database when programs like pssh try > to use it, but apparently that's not working. > > The problem might be that pssh opens the MemoDB by name, but the > compatibility hack only works if the database is opened by type > and creator. This test version of pssh does it that way. Can you > (and anyone else with a Treo 650 or Tungsten T5) try it and let > me know if it works? > http://www.sealiesoftware.com/pssh/dist/pssh-debug100.prc There is also the issue that some of us using Macs use MarkSpace's memo pad instead of Palm's. Is there any thought to adding the ability to manage the files from within pssh instead of using another program to do it? From clint at funky.net Tue Apr 19 00:22:22 2005 From: clint at funky.net (Clint Fisher) Date: Tue Apr 19 00:22:26 2005 Subject: [pssh-users] Treo650: pssh disappears after soft-reset.. Message-ID: This is the damndest thing... I've got a (cingular) Treo650 with a bunch of standard apps, LauncherX, Butler, LEDOff, and a few other things. When I install pssh into RAM, it works just fine, but after a soft-reset, pssh disappears! It's the only application that I know of that has done this. All the supporting pssh files are still there, but the actual .prc is gone. *poof!* This behavior is very consistent too. I can repro it any time. BTW, the .prc is the version downloaded from sealiesoftware.com (2004-12-30). Has anyone else run into this? Is it just some stupid file-management pitfall I'm stumbling into? Anyhow, the workaround is that I just keep pssh on my SD card and everything's fine. But it still bugs the hell out of me. Any ideas? BTW, I'm new to the thread, and I'd like to take a moment to thank Greg and any other pssh developers. What an awesome little app! Thanks! P.S. If you're ever in Seattle, lunch is on me! Thanks, -Clint From tpe at ida.liu.se Tue Apr 19 05:26:57 2005 From: tpe at ida.liu.se (Tommy Persson) Date: Tue Apr 19 05:27:06 2005 Subject: [pssh-users] Treo650: pssh disappears after soft-reset.. In-Reply-To: (message from Clint Fisher on Mon, 18 Apr 2005 21:22:22 -0700 (PDT)) References: Message-ID: <200504190926.j3J9QvGe027455@gedrix.ida.liu.se> > When I install pssh into RAM, it works just fine, but after a soft-reset, > pssh disappears! It's the only application that I know of that has done > this. All the supporting pssh files are still there, but the actual .prc > is gone. *poof!* I think that happened once on my T5. Suddenly pssh was gone and I did not understand why. Your observations explains when it happened. It did not happen at soft-resets after that one time. /Tommy Persson From gparker-pssh at sealiesoftware.com Tue Apr 19 16:32:58 2005 From: gparker-pssh at sealiesoftware.com (Greg Parker) Date: Tue Apr 19 16:32:59 2005 Subject: [pssh-users] Treo650: pssh disappears after soft-reset.. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16997.27386.61935.717526@kaazh.pair.com> Clint Fisher writes: > When I install pssh into RAM, it works just fine, but after a soft-reset, > pssh disappears! It's the only application that I know of that has done > this. All the supporting pssh files are still there, but the actual .prc > is gone. *poof!* > > This behavior is very consistent too. I can repro it any time. This is bizarre. I assume it has something to do with the new non-volatile memory system that the Treo 650 and T5 use, but I have no idea what pssh could be doing to stumble across it. Since you can reproduce it, can you try these experiments: * does pssh disappear if you install and reset without running pssh? * does pssh disappear if you install, run, and reset, but without opening any SSH connection? * does pssh disappear if you install, run, and reset while pssh is still open? -- Greg Parker gparker-pssh@sealiesoftware.com