[Roundtable] Roundtable Digest, Vol 29, Issue 2

[wes olson]

Jeff,
Thanks for the reply.  Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree...wouldn't be
the first time.  My family and I (and many Christians around me)
struggle with their Christianity on the one hand, and the pressures of
this culture on the other hand.  Now that we are Christians, do we go to
war?  Should we celebrate holidays that are pagan in origin?  Should we
watch movies that present unedifying images and message (98% of all
Hollywood movies)?  Or do we watch them for the "redemptive" qualities
we can find in them.  We perceive a tension here that is difficult to
resolve since Christianity seems to provide no culture to replace the
one we have left behind.  Does that make any sense?
My "Christ & Culture" is coming in this week.
Wes

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On 1/11/07 11:24 AM, "wes  olson" <wes at the101series.com> wrote:


> This year I am embarking on a study of Christians and war (justifiable



> force). I am also studying Chitins and Christmas and Christians and 

> the movies.  I recognize now these all have to do with a Christians 

> response to their culture.

>  

> THE PROBLEM

>  

> premise 1: People are driven to celebrate, enjoy seasons, be part of 

> the culture around them (e.g. the nation of Israel)

>  

> premise 2: When people get saved, they get a spiritual identity in 

> Christ, but no physical culture to replace the one they left.

>  

> conclusion: Christians are left with a cultural vacuum and tension.

>  

>  

> I am hoping to resolve which one of these premise's or what part of 

> this conclusion is in error.



Hi Wes, 
I?m not sure there is a conflict at this point, but let me give you my
initial feedback and see if I?m understanding what you are after.

Every aspect of God?s involvement in history has always been incarnate
and
in-culture-ated.   The scriptures are written through the fabric of the
culture in which the people live, the governments and the times.

Calvin talked about the three aspects of the OT law: the moral
[unchanging as a reflection of the character of God], the ritual
[superceded by Christ's fulfillment], and the civic [case law that
depends upon the spirit of the law in a local or governmental context].
So, civic laws about 10% civil taxes, involuntary servitude of aliens,
how you approach the king in court, etc., are conditional laws that
reflect the times and the culture. Hanging horse thieves may have been
appropriate in the old West, where people's lives depended upon their
horses; while today it isn't - may be an example of changing cultural
laws.

Have your read the profound by short book by H Richard Niehbur?

Christ and Culture (Torchbooks) (Paperback)
by H. Richard Niebuhr

 
http://www.amazon.com/Christ-Culture-Torchbooks-Richard-Niebuhr/dp/00613
000
39/sr=8-1/qid=1168537630/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-1709065-3635268?ie=UTF8&s=b
ooks

He talks about the 5 approaches to culture: Christ Transforming Culture
is one of the options.

Jeff 
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