[Slowhand] The List

[David Hillman]

AG writes...

> I would agree with some folks who mention that there is a bit of

> chilling effect from a few people who can't seem to voice an opinion

> without ad hominem attacks.  One lesson I've learned is that discussion

> lists work better when they are actively moderated.


   For the record, I disagree strenuously.  If I were to moderate content
here, the first task would be to setup strict guidelines for what is, or
is not, "related".  That's hard, first of all, because I don't want to
have to say that, for example, a note about Peter Green's Les Paul is
off-topic, because I'm sure someone found it interesting, and it's "close
enough" for me.  But more to the point, the last things we need here is
_less_ discussion.  From time-to-time, people have gotten abusive enough
that I've suspended them, or in a couple cases, permanently kicked them
out, but in general, we're all adults here* so I don't feel the need to
babysit y'all.

* We had an 11 year-old at one point, but I think was a about a decade
ago, so he'd be grown-up now, too.


> With that said, Scott did sort of completely 100% miss my point, that

> being that a lot of people don't receive the SD consistently (or at

> all)


   It may not be common knowledge, but if for some reason your delivery
is inconsistent, every single message from the last three+ years is in
the web-based Archive at...

	http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/slowhand/


> and of those that do, a good number cannot *post* to the list

> which does sort of have the effect that they can't really, umm,

> participate.


   If you are within the sound of my voice, and want to, but cannot post
to this list, drop me a private e-mail and we'll work on it.  I can't
guarantee a speedy resolution ( or even one at all ) since I have a
racecar in my garage that needs to be finished before January, but I will
see what we can do to fix your problem.


> A thriving community depends on everyone having consistent access, and

> I'm at a loss as to why this list has had consistent problems for ~5

> years now, yet there are so many lists (many even using the same

> software) that seem to work just fine.


   Every list I'm on, which can be dozens at any given points, across a
number of subjects, has problems.  Even large companies like Yahoo
struggle with mail delivery.  Every Yahoogroup I'm on constantly has
people missing messages ( and orders of magnitude more spam than the
Digest ).  To put it mildly, Yahoo has greater resources to bring to bear
than I do.  Blame the Russians and the Nigerians for spamming the globe
with trillions of messages a day, and whatever you do, don't ever respond
to spam.  Maybe in about ten years they'll stop making money off it, and
go away.

   If you have a problem, and have at least visited...

	http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/slowhand

   ...in an unsuccessful attempt to rectify it, let me know, and I'll see
what I can do.  If I can't fix it, or tell you how to fix it, I will
cheerfully refund 100% of your purchase price ;)

--
 David Hillman