From Westley at da-parish.com Sat Nov 14 09:04:05 2009 From: Westley at da-parish.com (Westley Annis) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:04:05 -0600 Subject: [StBernard] PROTECTING YOURSELF: 2010 CENSUS Message-ID: <083c01ca6533$54191d70$fc4b5850$@com> PROTECTING YOURSELF: 2010 CENSUS Body WARNING: 2010 Census Cautions from the Better Business Bureau Be Cautious About Giving Info to Census Workers by Susan Johnson With the U.S. Census process beginning, the Better Business Bureau (BBB) advises people to be cooperative, but cautious, so as not to become a victim of fraud or identity theft. The first phase of the 2010 U.S. Census is under way as workers have begun verifying the addresses of households across the country. Eventually, more than 140,000 U.S. Census workers will count every person in the United States and will gather information about every person living at each address including name, age, gender, race, and other relevant data. The big question is - how do you tell the difference between a U.S. Census worker and a con artist? BBB offers the following advice: If a U.S. Census worker knocks on your door, they will have a badge, a handheld device, a Census Bureau canvas bag, and a confidentiality notice. Ask to see their identification and their badge before answering their questions. However, you should never invite anyone you don't know into your home. Census workers are currently only knocking on doors to verify address information. Do not give your Social Security number, credit card or banking information to anyone, even if they claim they need it for the U.S. Census. REMEMBER, NO MATTER WHAT THEY ASK, YOU REALLY ONLY NEED TO TELL THEM HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE AT YOUR ADDRESS. While the Census Bureau might ask for basic financial information, such as a salary range, YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER ANYTHING AT ALL ABOUT YOUR FINANCIAL SITUATION. The Census Bureau will not ask for Social Security, bank account, or credit card numbers, nor will employees solicit donations. Any one asking for that information is NOT with the Census Bureau. AND REMEMBER, THE CENSUS BUREAU HAS DECIDED NOT TO WORK WITH ACORN ON GATHERING THIS INFORMATION.. No Acorn worker should approach you saying he/she is with the Census Bureau. Eventually, Census workers may contact you by telephone, mail, or in person at home. However, the Census Bureau will not contact you by Email, so be on the lookout for Email scams impersonating the Census. Never click on a link or open any attachments in an Email that are supposedly from the U.S. Census Bureau. For more advice on avoiding identity theft and fraud, visit http://www.bbb.org/ PLEASE SHARE THIS INFO WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS. From westley at da-parish.com Sat Nov 14 09:07:52 2009 From: westley at da-parish.com (Westley Annis) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:07:52 -0600 Subject: [StBernard] St. Bernard Parish sheriff's deputy shoots, kills man this morning in domestic incident Message-ID: <084001ca6533$daff6ab0$90fe4010$@com> St. Bernard Parish sheriff's deputy shoots, kills man this morning in domestic incident By Chris Kirkham, The Times-Picayune November 13, 2009, 12:22PM A St. Bernard Parish sheriff's deputy shot and killed a man on Lebeau Street early this morning after the man arrived with a gun and pointed it at the deputy, the Sheriff's Office says. Sheriff Jack Stephens said the deputy, Cpl. Marco Spicuzza, responded to a domestic complaint call after 1 a.m. from a woman who said her husband had choked and slapped her. The husband left, but continued to make threatening calls to the house, prompting the woman to call the Sheriff's Office. The husband, Casey Dumas, continued to make threatening calls to the house, even after the woman's daughter told him over the phone that the deputy had arrived. Dumas continued to threaten over the phone, saying he was coming over to burn the house down. Spicuzza heard Dumas arrive in a car out front, so he went into the front yard. The deputy saw Dumas holding a gun in his hand, which Dumas then put into his mouth. According to a police report of the incident, Dumas approached the deputy in an "aggressive manner" with the gun in his mouth and then pointed it at the deputy. Spicuzza warned Dumas to drop his weapon, but he did not. He then fired two shots at Dumas - hitting him in the shoulder and in the chest. Dumas died on the scene. Stephens said the Sheriff's Office is completing an investigation of the incident, but he believes it was a case of suicide by police, where Dumas came with the intent to die. The Sheriff's Office has not confirmed whether Dumas ever fired shots at Spicuzza. Spicuzza, a 12-year veteran in St. Bernard, has been placed on administrative duty and will undergo a psychiatric evaluation, Stephens said. Stephens has been sheriff since 1984, and said there has been only one other case of a death involving a deputy From Westley at da-parish.com Sat Nov 14 09:08:58 2009 From: Westley at da-parish.com (Westley Annis) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:08:58 -0600 Subject: [StBernard] How the liberal Democrats deceive on healthcare Message-ID: <084101ca6534$02833b20$0789b160$@com> Richard, As conservative as I am, I do feel for those less fortunate than I...and if things keep going the way they are I'll be included in that group...and I do want to do "something" to help those folks. But, as Senator Nelson of Nebraska put it (and he's a Democrat and former governor), "you have over 200 million people in this country who are satified with or downright love their private healthcare coverage. You have in real numbers only about 10 to 15 million who are without healthcare coverage and most of them either don't want it or qualify under the current Medicaid systems state by state. So why do we (the federal government) want to go and pass this legislation (HR 3200 Obamacare) to 'maybe' please only a few people while angering over 200 million happy people?" Well put, Senator Nelson! Makes sense to me. The current medicaid/medicare system can be tweaked and improved for those "few." John Scurich -----Original Message----- There shouldn't even be charity hospitals. After all, if a charity hospital gets tax breaks or government funding, how is that any different that government health care? Why should my tax dollars go to provide health care to some loser who can't afford it. You get health care, you pay for it. You can't pay, you do without. It's that simple. Richard From Westley at da-parish.com Sat Nov 14 09:09:30 2009 From: Westley at da-parish.com (Westley Annis) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:09:30 -0600 Subject: [StBernard] How the liberal Democrats deceive on healthcare Message-ID: <084201ca6534$15b9bfc0$412d3f40$@com> I should have added Senator Nelson said "as a past governor responsible for the financial administration of a state government, I realize how much burden this legislation will put on the backs of state governments. If the program ever runs short on money, it will require state government to pick up the difference and that's just not fair." He added that the language of the bill should read that state governments have the option to "opt in" should they want to try it down the line, not "opt out" later once they realize the state cannot afford it. Once again, Senator Nelson is absolutely correct. He went on to explain that even he as a Democrat realizes all this healthcare reform bill is really about is the federal government taking over control of a major component of the lives of our citizens. John From Westley at da-parish.com Sat Nov 14 09:11:28 2009 From: Westley at da-parish.com (Westley Annis) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:11:28 -0600 Subject: [StBernard] How the liberal Democrats deceive onhealthcarestatistics Message-ID: <084301ca6534$5bf702e0$13e508a0$@com> Jim, I'm not sure if Jer meant it that way, but the fact does remain that nowhere in the Constitution or Articles of Confederation does it say anything about being entitled or having a right to healthcare. So while we might opt to help some folks, never should it be a requirement by law. I think government charity (and that's what this is) should only be generous during good times when the treasury is raking it in and we're not having to bail out every absurd company that doesn't know how to manage itself. John -----Original Message----- >The middle class will find illegals, "low class" >individuals, and those unable to afford any kind of care (ie, out of >work, low-income, etc.) will be in the same rooms at your doctors >offices What an elitist thing to say Jerry! Yes, God forbid someone out of work dares to seek medical treatment of some kind. Much better to keep the riff-raff away and let the poor sons-o-bitches die on the street. JY From Westley at da-parish.com Sat Nov 14 09:12:38 2009 From: Westley at da-parish.com (Westley Annis) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:12:38 -0600 Subject: [StBernard] How the liberal Democrats deceive on healthcare Message-ID: <084401ca6534$8576ca60$90645f20$@com> >Why should my tax dollars go to provide health care >to some loser who can't afford it. You get health care, you pay for it. You >can't pay, you do without. It's that simple. However Richard, that "loser" who can't afford it might be unemployed from the recession we are currently in. Is this his or her fault? In many cases with this economic situation no it's not their fault. If you or your spouse have health care courtesy of your employer, you're not paying the full bill for that health insurance, or at least not in most cases. Now if you want to talk about the low-lifes who are sitting on their butts drawing SSI that's another story, but guess what? They are eligible for Medicaid. However, I'm not going to bad-mouth all of the unemployed who may be seeking charity care. I have a feeling if you ask them, they'll take working over charity and unemployment any day of the week. JY From Westley at da-parish.com Sat Nov 14 09:32:37 2009 From: Westley at da-parish.com (Westley Annis) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:32:37 -0600 Subject: [StBernard] "Tragedy at Ft Hood" Message-ID: <084801ca6537$508635e0$f192a1a0$@com> For those of you who don't know, Col. Allen West is running for U.S. Congressman Ron Klein's seat in Florida. Attached is his article regarding the shootings at Ft. Hood, Texas. Please take a few minutes to read what he wrote. "Tragedy at Ft Hood" Lieutenant Colonel Allen B West (US Army, Ret) This past Thursday 13 American Soldiers were killed and another 30 wounded at a horrific mass shooting at US Army installation, Ft Hood Texas. As I watched in horror and then anger I recalled my two years of final service in the Army as a Battalion Commander at Ft Hood, 2002-2004. My wife and two daughters were stunned at the incident having lived on the post in family housing. A military installation, whether it is Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine, or Coast Guard, is supposed to be a safe sanctuary for our Warriors and their families. It is intended to provide a home whereby our "Band of Brothers and Sisters" can find solace and bond beyond just the foxhole but as family units. A military installation is supposed to be a place where our Warriors train for war, to serve and protect our Nation. On Thursday, 5 November 2009 Ft Hood became a part of the battlefield in the war against Islamic totalitarianism and state sponsored terrorism. There may be those who feel threatened by my words and would even recommend they not be uttered. To those individuals I say step aside because now is not the time for cowardice. Our Country has become so paralyzed by political correctness that we have allowed a vile and determined enemy to breach what should be the safest place in America, an Army post. We have become so politically correct that our media is more concerned about the stress of the shooter, Major Nidal Malik Hasan. The misplaced benevolence intending to portray him as a victim is despicable. The fact that there are some who have now created an entire new classification called "pre-virtual vicarious Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD)" is unconscionable. This is not a "man caused disaster". It is what it is, an Islamic jihadist attack. We have seen this before in 2003 when a SGT Hasan of the 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) threw hand grenades and opened fire into his Commanding Officer's tent in Kuwait. We have seen the foiled attempt of Albanian Muslims who sought to attack Ft Dix, NJ. Recently we saw a young convert to Islam named Carlos Bledsoe travel to Yemen, receive terrorist training, and return to gun down two US Soldiers at a Little Rock, Arkansas Army recruiting station. We thwarted another Islamic terrorist plot in North Carolina which had US Marine Corps Base, Quantico as a target. What have we done with all these prevalent trends? Nothing. What we see are recalcitrant leaders who are refusing to confront the issue, Islamic terrorist infiltration into America, and possibly further into our Armed Services. Instead we have a multiculturalism and diversity syndrome on steroids. Major Hasan should have never been transferred to Ft Hood, matter of fact he should have been Chaptered from the Army. His previous statements, poor evaluation reports, and the fact that the FBI had him under investigation for jihadist website posting should have been proof positive. However, what we have is a typical liberal approach to find a victim, not the 13 and 30 Soldiers and Civilian, but rather the poor shooter. A shooter who we are told was a great American, who loved the Army and serving his Nation and the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) stating that his actions had nothing to do with religious belief. We know that Major Hasan deliberately planned this episode; he did give away his possessions. He stood atop a table in the confined space of the Soldier Readiness Center shouting "Allahu Akhbar", same chant as the 9-11 terrorists and those we fight against overseas in the Iraq and Afghanistan theaters of operation. No one in leadership seems willing to sound the alarm for the American people; they are therefore complicit in any future attacks. Our Congress should suspend the insidious action to vote on a preposterous and unconstitutional healthcare bill and resolve the issue of "protecting the American people". The recent incidents in Dearborn Michigan, Boston Massachusetts, Dallas Texas, and Chicago Illinois should bear witness to the fact that we have an Islamic terrorism issue in America. And don't have CAIR call me and try to issue a vanilla press statement; they are an illegitimate terrorist associated organization which should be disbanded. We have Saudi Arabia funding close to 80% of the mosques in the United States, one right here in South Florida, Pompano Beach. Are we building churches and synagogues in Saudi Arabia? Are "Kaffirs" and "Infidels" allowed travel to Mecca? So much for peaceful coexistence. Saudi Arabia is sponsoring radical Imams who enter into our prisons and convert young men into a virulent Wahabbist ideology....one resulting in four individuals wanting to destroy synagogues in New York with plastic explosives. Thank God the explosives were dummy. They are sponsoring textbooks which present Islamic centric revisionist history in our schools. We must recognize that there is an urgent need to separate the theo-political radical Islamic ideology out of our American society. We must begin to demand surveillance of suspected Imams and mosques that are spreading hate and preaching the overthrow of our Constitutional Republic......that speech is not protected under First Amendment, it is sedition and if done by an American treason. There should not be some 30 Islamic terrorist training camps in America that has nothing to do with First Amendment, Freedom of Religion. The Saudis are not our friends and any American political figure who believes such is delusional. When tolerance becomes a one way street it certainly leads to cultural suicide. We are on that street. Liberals cannot be trusted to defend our Republic, because their sympathies obviously lie with their perceived victim Major Nidal Malik Hasan. I make no apologies for these words, and anyone angered by them, please, go to Ft Hood and look into the eyes of the real victims. The tragedy at Ft Hood Texas did not have to happen. Consider now the feelings of those there and on every military installation in the world. Consider the feelings of the Warriors deployed into combat zones who now are concerned that their loved ones at home are in a combat zone. Ft Hood suffered an Islamic jihadist attack, stop the denial, and realize a simple point. The reality of your enemy must become your own. Steadfast and Loyal, Lieutenant Colonel Allen B West (US Army, Ret) Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. From Westley at da-parish.com Sat Nov 14 09:32:52 2009 From: Westley at da-parish.com (Westley Annis) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:32:52 -0600 Subject: [StBernard] RNC RELEASES NEW WEB VIDEO "FLIP FLOP MARY LANDRIEU" AS SENATE HEALTH CARE VOTE APPROACHES Message-ID: <084901ca6537$59724c70$0c56e550$@com> How economical of the RNC to use the same video for Landrieu, Blanche Lincoln and Ben Nelson. BTW: Did the RNC drop their Cigna health care policy that includes elective abortions yet? It was discovered yesterday that the health care plan for RNC employees, which has been the same one since 1991 covered elective abortions. JY From Westley at da-parish.com Sat Nov 14 09:33:11 2009 From: Westley at da-parish.com (Westley Annis) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:33:11 -0600 Subject: [StBernard] How the liberal Democrats deceive onhealthcare statistics Message-ID: <084a01ca6537$64a40d40$2dec27c0$@com> " Yes, God forbid someone out of work dares to seek medical treatment of some kind. Much better to keep the riff-raff away and let the poor sons-o-bitches die on the street." --JY. Jer Responds: The point, JY has always been: Why is the government trying to "eliminate" the middle class. I was born in severe poverty (and I will surmise have been poorer than yourself probably 30 yrs. before you were born), came up the ranks through hard work and intestinal fortitude. With 12 kids and a mom and dad (who was disabled from heart disease at age 50) in un-blissful poverty, I believe I have earned the right to say that riff-raff was something I never was or became in life. There are charitable hospitals for the poor and indigent and unemployed (don't believe me? Ask around). I know because I used them before having to turn to them for many years until I broke the cycle of poverty through education and very hard work. The lines are 3 time longer and lengthy than private hospitals (again, ask me, I've gone through that born as a cripple with club feet for many years since). But, I accepted the fact that there was a charitable facility that could accommodate me for many years while operations, breaks to bone, and leg braces, kept me back from participating with others in society. I appreciate and thank the taxpayer for helping me out during those desperate times. I spent 8 yrs. in college and post college, not because I was poor or anything but wanting a better life for me and a family. If there is an elitist, it's pretending not to be one and criticizing one who has never been so. If one is out of work and can't afford a medical plan, there is welfare, food stamps and other social programs by churches, organizations and YES, governments. Why should anyone pay expensive premiums, struggle for the best things in life, etc. ONLY to have to share severe waiting time in a doctor's waiting room, office, non-charitable hospital with socialized medicine recipients getting a free-ride? If I had to pay for a movie, wait in line for 30 minutes and there were those who are given free tickets who would get in before me only because he's not able to see a movie (could be because he was of a certain background, from another country, faith or broke), it would be the same thing. I can't afford a movie these days, but I'll be damned if I would accept welfare that was being paid by the Federal government on the backs of hard-working people and taxpayers. When I was in poverty, yes, I was deprived, and my family didn't have money for Christmas (nor do I remember celebrating it with gifts), but for the fact we went to church which didn't cost the taxpayer or wasn't given to me freely. Worshipping in America, you see, is a privilege and God-Given-Right. Everyone has the right to go to church and worship here. Socialized medicine "poisons" those who are recipients because it enslaves them under the thumb of government bent to "distribute the wealth". I take it, that if a viewpoint was hell-bent on supporting socialized medicine like the ones the socialist government is providing, that's why one would defend it. It's critical that conservatives defeat the idea that we want to have government in every aspect of our lives. Nothing elitist about it. It's a fact that if you defend socialized medicine, you embrace it. That's my opinion and JY, you will see more people die trying to get socialized medicine in "Charity-hospitals". I've seen them pass away in waiting rooms and emergency rooms. Soon it will be such as to what we now call "private hospitals and medical centers" will degrade to packed "gulags" of socialism (prisons of healing, you might say). JY, We might not have a perfect system of health care in America, but if this bill is passed, YOU and all Americans and every tax-payer will be forced to pay more, and get less knowing it will serve illegal aliens who get the free ride as non-Americans not contributing their fare share as such. That's my point. Distribution of Wealth is but one stroke and revolution (the Russians, French, Cubans and others forced it) away from, or where we're being shoveled info presently. Sorry you support Obama and his cohorts. I don't and everyone knows it. Conservatism, that's my choice as elitist group of political preference and philosophy. Everyone would be blessed to have made it from zero instead of having it given to them, born into, or stolen from someone else. --jer-- From Westley at da-parish.com Sat Nov 14 09:34:13 2009 From: Westley at da-parish.com (Westley Annis) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:34:13 -0600 Subject: [StBernard] How the liberal Democrats deceive on healthcare Message-ID: <084b01ca6537$89c5aac0$9d510040$@com> "There shouldn't even be charity hospitals. After all, if a charity hospital gets tax breaks or government funding, how is that any different that government health care? Why should my tax dollars go to provide health care to some loser who can't afford it. You get health care, you pay for it. You can't pay, you do without. It's that simple. --Richard." Jer Responds: Believe me, Richard, I can share your thoughts IF ..it were not America. JY has commented we shouldn't leave people die in the streets. He's right, because America is too grand for that (at least this is what I know as a conservative). However, I cannot see giving equality (financial/benefits/Soc.Sec. etc) to those who are here illegally robbing from the rich, the middle class and the poor in order to share what countries like Mexico or other nations of illegal origins should be doing for their people. This is NOT what freedom entails nor robbing from the rich to give away as "Robbing Hooders" We are no longer in a position globally to pay for everyone in the world. Fiscally, we cannot afford it, because it's like a rowboat with huge holes, you always believe you're bailing out, but are sinking attempting. Yes, charity hospitals were once handled by Christians, Catholics, nuns, priests, everyone who gave their love to help the meek, the poor, the disadvantage. It all leads back to two things. Closing the borders helps eliminate the crime coming it (whether it be gangs, drug addicts, criminals, etc). So, why should Mexico and Canada stop such a thing? Isn't getting rid of this element beneficial to their own financial and government interests? If you want more social and economic disease, let everyone in. Open Pandora's Box, that which makes it permanent and long-lasting. "Stop the bleeding" of influx into America and we slow it down to an orderly, lawful means of immigration. Now charitable hospitals are more government supported (socialization). Our tax dollars do the supporting (not like the Negroes were heard recently on TV, saying "we're going to get OBAMA's stash" or "we don't have to worry about working, because we're going to be taken care of" mentality). With Tax dollars, we expect governments to appropriate money to beneficial causes. But, abuse in the system has the "skimming off the top" happening before money is distributed to the disadvantage. We need reform for all of this. No, we don't throw people in the street, but we correct the problems with this analogy: Fix what's broke and throw away what's not needed, required or poisons what's left of what we have. --jer-- From westley at da-parish.com Sat Nov 14 16:49:31 2009 From: westley at da-parish.com (Westley Annis) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:49:31 -0600 Subject: [StBernard] How the liberal Democrats deceive on healthcare Message-ID: <090501ca6574$59413da0$0bc3b8e0$@com> As John alluded to in another post, while liberals believe that people have a right to health care, conservatives believe the Constitution grants no such right, and health care is a privilege. Whether it's someone's fault regarding their situation isn't really an issue. And if my employer provides health insurance, it's considered part of my benefits package. If I want to keep those benefits, I had better be productive enough to make it worthwhile for my employer to keep providing them to me. Heath care is a product, and health care providers are in business to make money. Consider the example of when Paul McCartney played at the Superdome in 2002. Floor tickets sold for $250 each, because that was what the market would bear. If you had the money to spare and the desire to go, you spent $250 for a ticket. If you didn't have the desire to go and/or you didn't have the money, you didn't go. The government doesn't have the right to tell Paul how much to charge for a ticket, and it doesn't have the right to buy a ticket for those who can't afford to pay. You don't have the right to attend a Paul McCartney concert. It's the same with health care. Insurance companies and health care providers can charge whatever the market will bear. If you don't want to pay what they are asking, you do without, but you don't have a right to health care. Using my example, though, if Paul McCartney doesn't sell enough $250 tickets to pay his costs and make a profit, he'll lower ticket prices. When health care providers raise their prices to the point that demand starts to fall off, they'll lower prices. But as long as people keep buying health care service, providers have the right to charge whatever they want. That's capitalism. Richard ---------------------------------------------------- >Why should my tax dollars go to provide health care >to some loser who can't afford it. You get health care, you pay for it. You >can't pay, you do without. It's that simple. However Richard, that "loser" who can't afford it might be unemployed from the recession we are currently in. Is this his or her fault? In many cases with this economic situation no it's not their fault. If you or your spouse have health care courtesy of your employer, you're not paying the full bill for that health insurance, or at least not in most cases. Now if you want to talk about the low-lifes who are sitting on their butts drawing SSI that's another story, but guess what? They are eligible for Medicaid. However, I'm not going to bad-mouth all of the unemployed who may be seeking charity care. I have a feeling if you ask them, they'll take working over charity and unemployment any day of the week. JY