No Charlie, unfortunately I was not. I've tried but just haven't been able to make it work. I know Jack and George and several of the regulars. One day we'll do it!!! DougEvans Doug, I am way out in Pompton Plains, NJ. I got to meet Floyd and several other Michigan carvers at the first two HEWR in Honesdale, PA Were you at that Roundup? CharlieB.