[Woodcarver] ??? on American Indians

[Phill Pittman]

I design and carve a fair bit of Celtic knotwork and you can definitely
"braid" two strands. There are many ways to do it.
 It is more accurately described as a long asymmetrical knot and gets FAR
more complex than the typical three strand braid.
As far as practical function goes, the only two strand ornaments used in NA
hair was typically with a third object ( leather or skin strip) acting as
the third strand more or less making it a three strand braid. Just not all
three strands were hair. Or,, two strand twists done in pairs side by side
and terminated together at the end. This would keep them from un-twisting.
The termination could be with the hair itself to the parallel braid or again
with foreign ornamental object. This really made it a four strand if you
were counting.

All of that said, no matter how you do it, there will be a lot of simple
repetition, an I think it'll be a fun carve no matter how it gets done.

Good whittling, Phill
Phill Pittman
digicarve at verizon.net
www.masterwerkes.com




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Merrilee Johnson" <merrihat at hotmail.com>
To: <woodcarver at six.pairlist.net>
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] ??? on American Indians


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> Good idea Sandie!  My 16 year old carver is coming over today and she has
> really long hair!  Today may not get too much carving done but I will get
> this figured out yet!  Probably looking at the real thing will be better
> than looking at braided ribbon.  Thanks!
> See you soon!
> Merrilee
>
>
> >From: outdoor1 <outdoor1 at ulster.net>
> >Reply-To: "[Woodcarver]" <woodcarver at six.pairlist.net>
> >To: "[Woodcarver]" <woodcarver at six.pairlist.net>
> >Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] ??? on American Indians
> >Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 08:17:50 -0400
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> >Merrilee - the easiest way to solve this is to find some one with long
> >hair. Try to do a two strand braid and you will see that it simply
doesn't
> >work. Do a three strand braid and you will see that it appears to be two
> >strands.
> >Try it for yourself.
> >
> >Sandie
> >
> >Dave Egan wrote:
> >
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> >>I went to high school on the Crow Indian reservation in South Central
MT.
> >>my classmates either did a three strand braid or a loose pony tail.
> >>wouldn't a two strand twist unwind?  anyhow, not sure if it was
authentic
> >>old school as so many traditions were discarded over the years but many
> >>were retained and that is what I saw in my world.  good luck.
> >>
> >>Dave
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>Good morning!
> >>>>   This is for all you American Indian carvers or anyone eles with an
> >>>>opinion<BG>!  Did Indians braid their hair with 3 strands or just
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>twist/wrap
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>it with only 2 strands?  A friend carved a cane this summer and wanted
> >>>>to
> >>>>braid his hair - boy was that hard - he was beginning to think about
not
> >>>>doing that part after all! - I kept thinking it wasn't done with 3
> >>>>strands
> >>>>but wrapped with only 2.  This might be easier to carve than 3.  After
> >>>>looking at several sites,  trying it for myself and thinking about it
a
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>lot
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I decided to go to the experts!  So what do you think - 2 or 3?
Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>for
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>you information!
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