[Woodcarver] unteachable students?
Larry Odegard
larryodegard at yahoo.com
Mon Oct 4 08:44:11 EDT 2004
Susan,
Thanks for your ranting!!! We all learn from every
experience. Hopefully we will not learn that our
instructor/teacher doesn't think we have a chance to
learn.
Larry
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> GOOD MORNING MARICHA!
>
> My e-mail box looked awfully bare this morning until
> a few moments ago
> when you e-mails popped into the box ... our THANK
> YOU goes to you!
>
> You wrote:
> to think all this started because of carving,
> because of the delicate
> people
> I have had to deal with, with trying to motivate and
> teach almost the
> unteacheable students, in my inadequateness to find
> a solution, you are
> helping tremendously and finging solutions..
>
> Now, this is just my opinion ... But I don't think
> there are Unteachable
> Students. I think, I hope, that it is more the case
> that as teachers we
> can't see at that moment what is getting through and
> what is not. Each
> student seems to absorb different information at
> different rates and at
> different times. I know that some times you come in
> contact with a
> student that you just can't seem to connect with
> during the class
> session. Try as you might you just don't seem to
> find the right words
> or right demonstrations to make your point. It is an
> extremely
> frustrating situation for any teacher.
>
> However, many of us 'teachers' have also been the
> students (and
> hopefully still are in many ways today.) As a
> student I have had
> teachers that for all of my trying and their trying
> I just couldn't
> follow. But some where down the line, unexpectedly,
> I remember
> something they said, something that they showed me
> that day in class.
> Perhaps it is the input of that particular time when
> I remember them
> that was needed for me to 'connect the dots' with
> the information that
> the teacher was sharing. Example, maybe I am down
> in the workshop
> tracing out a pattern when it hits me that I can see
> the pattern flowing
> with the unusual grain of the wood ... And suddenly
> I understand what
> that teacher meant by using the grain to enhance the
> look of the depth
> of the pattern! See the light bulb go off many
> weeks or months AFTER
> the class is over.
>
> When you do encounter that seemingly 'Unteachable
> student' or come away
> from a class feeling like an 'Unteachable' I think
> what becomes most
> important is the simple fact that you and they tried
> to find a way to
> communicate! Just keep doing what you are doing
> with the hope that all
> that stuff is going into their/your brain and
> someday that little bit of
> added date will come along that makes sense out of
> it all.
>
>
> Changing subject ... Tiny little rant here!!!! ...
> And this is just MY
> OPINION!!!!
>
> If anyone is lurking because they feel that those
> that post to this list
> 'know more' than you do ... PLEASE have mercy on us
> posters!!!! You
> don't know exactly what I do know or don't know.
> You don't know for
> sure that I already know everything that you know!
> If this is your
> reason for not posting you are assuming something
> that is not a fact.
> There is a lot that I don't know yet which is why I
> personally follow
> the list! So if you are not posting you might be
> withholding that very
> little or very big or extremely important bit of
> information that I need
> to make the light bulb turn on! And being a very
> selfish, very
> self-centered type of learner here ... I personally
> want that little bit
> that you have tucked away from your experiences!!!!
>
> Thank you for listening to my rant.
> Susan
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: woodcarver-bounces at six.pairlist.net
> [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at six.pairlist.net] On
> Behalf Of maricha
> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 5:06 AM
> To: [Woodcarver]
> Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] shattered
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> dear friends,
>
> terry, carol, bill smith, bill judt, mike, tom
> loren and susan and
> folks.
> wow thank you for your kindness and thoughtful
> replies.
>
> .....
>
> to think all this started because of carving,
> because of the delicate
> people
> i have had to deal with, with trying to motivate and
> teach almost the
> unteacheable students, in my inadequateness to find
> a solution, you are
> helping tremendously and finging solutions..
>
> THANKS........... THANKS
>
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