[Woodcarver] Re: Joe's Christmas present - Please replaceyourdivot!

maricha maricha at ozemail.com.au
Sat Dec 31 04:03:24 EST 2005


thanks for a great email.
cheers
maricha
----- Original Message -----
From: "RAY MIGHELLS" <raymighells at earthlink.net>
To: "[Woodcarver]" <woodcarver at six.pairlist.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Re: Joe's Christmas present - Please
replaceyourdivot!



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> I meant to add this little squib before, but forget. I think most of you

> are aware of the log salvage operation in the Great Lakes, the recovering

> of log that had been submerged a hundred years or better. Someone

> involved in that operation developed an articulating arm boom to aid in

> their recovery operation. They got wind of tropical wood trees submerged

> behind dams in Brazil that were not harvested before the dam back-filled.

> They surveyed the areas, modified their articulating arm boom so they

> could secure a tree and cut it at the base. Their cutter could cut

> through a 5 feet (60 inches) diameter tree in under 20 (twenty) seconds.

> Amazing??? They estimated it would take 35 years to harvest the one area

> they started on. A great side benefit is they don't need cut down a rain

> forest to get this great wood, some of which is not available because it

> was pretty much timbered out. Enviornmentaly friendly woodworking. Ray

> Mighells 6760 Rt 417 Killbuck NY 716 945 0098 Please view my work at:

> http://www.picturetrail.com/razaxnstuff

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Victor Hamburger" <VHamburg at bellatlantic.net>

> To: <woodcarver at six.pairlist.net>

> Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 4:22 PM

> Subject: [Woodcarver] Re: Joe's Christmas present - Please replace

> yourdivot!

>

>

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>>> "Merrilee Johnson" <merrihat at hotmail.com>

>> If this log is that big and its so hard to take out

>>> how in the world can they "fix the area to its orginal contours with no

>>> effect on environmental consequences"? Wouldn't just removing it

>>> change the environment? And would that matter really? Just a thought.

>>

>> Merrilee,

>>

>> In strip mining, the company is required to recontour the area that they

>> may have stripped a 20-30' deep seam of coal off of. The company uses

>> the topsoil originally removed and lays it back, creating a smooth area

>> with some gentle slopes and hills to it. In a case like these trees, I

>> assume the company does the same thing, they refill the hole left, and

>> replace the topsoil or peat or whatever, so that the remaining land is

>> again smooth and unblemished after a year's growth of vegetation.

>>

>> Yes, removing and then replacing the top surface material does affect the

>> environment, but once replaced, it is not a long term problem. I don't

>> know what the problems are in a place like these logs come from, but in

>> coal mining, you want to cover the acidic material associated with the

>> coal that will foul the water table and kill surrounding vegetation.

>>

>> I am only assuming my understanding/comparison of coal mining is similar

>> to what the log salvaging operation goes through. Someone from that area

>> of the world may know better how it is done.

>>

>> Vic H

>>

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