[Woodcarver] charges for teaching

[Bill Smith]

hi sounds like they are taken advanage of you, also
your give way to much away for the little bit they are
given u. I charge 20.00 per hour for people I know can
afford it which are adults and I also work with people
that are on a fixed income like I am, and they come to
class and pay a smaller fee just enought to cover what
I have put out for the class lessons supplies. I do
have a lunch avaible for them as well, and have snacks
avaible to the student.. 

I have a rule if u miss a class which I am pre-paid
for  if I found a reason for the miss class such as
bein sick or havin a death in the family, I will allow
the person to make up the class but no way are they
given their payment back for the class. I also make
the same rule for things I make if they are ordered I
charge half down and if they decide lator on they do
not want it they lose the half they pre-paid for it.

Bill

--- Lori Corbett <lcorbett at fretel.com> wrote:

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> > Helen...No, you're not a doormat. You are a
generous
> Soul, and people 
> tend to take advantage of others' generosity. If
> these people are 
> friends, then they should not take offense were you
> to explain the 
> situation and your concerns.
> 
> First...you are not charging enough. Ten dollars for
> 2 1/2 hours..people 
> don't value the class (or your TIME) because a
> $10.00 loss isn't going 
> to hurt all that much. So, my first suggestion is to
> raise your 
> rates...make it something that will "hurt" if they
> cancel...because 
> those fees are due at sign-up..BEFORE they attend
> class, and unless it's 
> an extreme situation the fee is NON-REFUNDABLE.
> 
> I'll tell you what my fees are, I'm not saying this
> is how much to 
> charge...just what I charge. You should come up with
> fees that are 
> affordable to your students, but ALSO worth your
> while. You need to be 
> able to recoup at least SOME of your prep time and
> materials for the 
> no-shows.
> I charge $100.00 per day...running from 9:00 am to
> 6:00 pm with a 1 hour 
> lunch. That works out to 12.50 an hour. Lunch,
> coffee, beverages and 
> snacks are included, as well as wood and incidentals
> like eyes. I have 
> other supplies that are FOR SALE should the student
> need something like 
> paint, brushes, carving bits, etc. (So the hourly
> rate is actually less 
> than 12.50, i guess).
> I charge a $50.00 NON-REFUNDABLE deposit...this
> covers my prep-time and 
> supplies for each student. If they don't show, I'm
> out nothing, they're 
> out $50.00...simple. The balance is due TWO WEEKS
> prior to the start of 
> the session.  If the class is fully paid ahead of
> time, I will offer a 
> refund (minus the deposit) of HALF the class fee if
> canceled before two 
> weeks before the start of class. less than two weeks
> NO REFUND. 
> Sometimes, I will give the money back if I can fill
> that spot, but it's 
> pretty hard on short notice. Also, there may be
> extenuating 
> circumstances and I will refund the fee (still minus
> the deposit)...I've 
> only had to do this once.
> 
> Now, there are times where I've waived the fee
> entirely...there are 
> people out there who truly can't afford the class
> (either elderly on a 
> fixed income, or young kids). I take a couple of
> these a year. Usually 
> these are people I've met through various forums,
> local people, etc. and 
> have gotten to know them a little bit and can get a
> pretty good feel for 
> their circumstances. Some are too proud to take it
> gratis, so I offer to 
> trade them for something. I have one college aged
> young man coming out 
> this summer to visit relatives with his
> grandparents...I'm charging him 
> a fee of chocolate for two days of "Boot Camp" in
> the studio...lol
> 
> I guess what this "novel" is trying to say is that
> this policy may seem 
> harsh, but if YOU make your time valuable, others
> will too. I've been on 
> your boat...being taken advantage of doesn't put
> food on the table, (or 
> buy more supplies for our "habits").
> 
> Good luck...you don't have to squash your generous
> Spirit (you prolly 
> couldn't anyway)...just guard it a bit more.
> I'd love to hear how others handle the situation,
> too. We could all benefit.
> Lori
> http://www.whisperingeagle.om
> "Carving Award Winning Songbirds" 
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> > I would really appreciate some input from those of
> you who teach 
> > carving on a weekly or monthly basis - about what
> you charge.
> > I've been teaching for about four years now and
> love it.  I just love 
> > to carve and I've been known to get tears in my
> eyes when one of my 
> > students does something surprisingly good.
> > I have ten somewhat "regulars" that I have
> recently split into two 
> > classes in order to have more time to spend with
> each one.
> > My students are all ladies rangeing in age from 27
> to 85 years,
> > plus a lady who is deaf.  I've never recruited
> students - it's all 
> > been by word of mouth.  Four of them are friends
> who I've known for 
> > over 20 years and therein, I think, lies the
> problem.
> > I am always here, unless I'm sick, which is
> seldom.  Plus, I am a 
> > carving fool, so I always put carving class before
> anything else.
> > Some of my students on the other hand cancel for
> anything and 
> > everything and it's starting to eat at me.
> > I charge $10 for a 2 and a half hour class.  I
> sharpen their tools for 
> > free.  I supply paint.  I order things for them. 
> I don't charge for 
> > cutting out things on the bandsaw.  I have coffee
> and tea and often 
> > have snacks.  I have come to the conclusion that
> the problem is I've 
> > been a poor business woman and a bit of a doormat
> because I don't want 
> > to hurt my friends feelings.
> > I am thinking about actively recruiting new
> students but I feel I 
> > should set things up a little differently.
> > Any ideas?  I'm open to all suggestions and
> comments.
> > Sorry this turned out to be so long.  Guess I
> needed to spill my guts 
> > to someone who would understand.  Thanks for
> listening.
> >  
> > Helen Coxe
> > chipmama at aol.com <mailto:chipmama at aol.com>
> > Phoenix, AZ
> >
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