[Woodcarver] WOOD CARVER FROM INDIA

[R. Stephan Toman]

Dick

      The various pieces that Sarfaraz had on his old website were 
what are properly considered patterns from the "public 
domain"...Traditional architectural designs that come in so many 
variations and have been around so long that no one can claim 
ownership of a design.  ( I have a set of catalogs for plaster 
castings that has some 14,000 designs in it, all from 18th and 19th 
century original molds )...Sarfaraz was trying to show that he can do 
a wide range of designs, but he has very limited resources and little 
inventory on hand to show his own work..( remember, everything he has 
done has been for someone else who has taken each completed 
piece.  Sarfaraz does not have many examples of his finished work, 
nor has he had easy access to a camera with which to try and take 
pictures of such work.)

      A pattern on paper can be copyrighted, but as soon as it moves 
from paper to wood or plaster or resin it no longer is.  It would be 
a matter of concern to me if someone co opted an original artistic 
design like a character figure or a sculpture or a relief, and 
claimed it for their own, but traditional historical ornament and 
embellishment really need to stand on the quality of the work more 
than on the design. Perhaps I would complain more if a special design 
of mine were being somehow mass produced by a big company in China ( 
I still don't know if I could do much about it...maybe I could fight 
for royalties of some sort if I could afford enough lawyers), but if 
someone who actually can do good work says he can do something like 
what I do, and is doing it by hand, and isn't signing my name to 
it,  then I figure there's probably enough potential clients in the 
world for both of us to have something to do most of the time. As has 
been often said, "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery".  And 
stylistically it is still his work, not mine: It will be 
different.   Also,  I would hope that I am creative enough to stay 
ahead of the competition with new market-worthy ideas.

In the King's Service,

Stephan

At 05:16 PM 10/22/2006, you wrote:

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>Patterns do sell, but be very careful with this because if I understood

>everything I have read so far, he was showing work that others had done on

>his web site and I would be VERY upset if I found someone selling a pattern

>for something I had carved without my permission.  Most of us who are not

>professional carvers do not copy write our work / patterns, but we still

>have some legal exclusive rights and more moral rights to that work.  Work

>that is copywrittn would cause a huge problem if sold without permissions.

>Any patterns sold must be his own original work.

>

>You may view may wood carvings at

>http://community.webshots.com/user/dickfaulkner

>

>-----Original Message-----

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>[mailto:woodcarver-bounces at six.pairlist.net]On Behalf Of Bill Judt

>Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 2:53 PM

>To: [Woodcarver]

>Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] WOOD CARVER FROM INDIA

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>Larry:

>

>Now, THERE'S and idea.

>Patterns are marketable here in North America... patterns SELL, even

>when carvings don't.

>

>Bill

>

>My books are for sale at: http://wwwoodcarver.com/Books/index.html

>W.F. Judt,

>46 Harvard Cres,

>Saskatoon, Saskatchewan,

>S7H3R1

>PH: 306-373-6649

>Email: bjudt at sasktel.net

>Website: http://www.wwwoodcarver.com

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>

>On 22-Oct-06, at 11:48 AM, WorkingInWood wrote:

>

> > Maybe Mr. Sarfaraz could harvest a little profit from our market by

> > publishing his patterns in either book or online form for us

> > retired wood carver's.  I  for one would appreciate a source of

> > some patterns with an Asian accent.

> >

> > Larry

>

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   R. Stephan Toman - artisan/carver
-- Sonrise Woodcarving  Studio --

Refined carving, sculpture, and furniture-making
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