[Woodcarver] spruce for carving

[Robert Fudge]

I've only tried to carve with spruce once and that was about 20 years ago and it was the last time I've used it and I live in the middle of a spruce forrest.  Here in South East Alaska I use mostly yellow cedar.
 
Robert Fudge
Ketchikan Alaska

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   1. spruce for carving?? (Merrilee Johnson)
   2. Re: spruce for carving?? (Denny Bell)
   3. Re: spruce for carving?? (Sally Nye)
   4. Re: spruce for carving?? (Bill Judt)
   5. Re: spruce for carving??(chat) (Merrilee Johnson)
   6. Re: spruce for carving?? (chat) (Merrilee Johnson)
   7. Re: spruce for carving?? (Merrilee Johnson)
   8. Re: spruce for carving?? (chat for Sally) (Merrilee Johnson)
   9. Re: spruce for carving?? (chat for Sally) (Donna Menke)
  10. Re: spruce for carving?? (chat for Sally) (Sally Nye)
  11. Re: spruce for carving?? (chat for Sally) (RICHARD L ROMBOLD)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:08:30 +0000
From: Merrilee Johnson <merrihat at hotmail.com>
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Good morning, All!
    I have a question .  Is spruce good for caving?  We had great winds through
here last night and a friend had a spruce tree go down so he called and wanted
to know if it were good for carving and did I want it.  I don't think I do
because its in big pieces but maybe some of the other members of your club
might.  So that's why I asked...  Thanks for your invaluable information
once again!
Merrilee
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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:34:45 -0500
From: Denny Bell <denny_bell at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] spruce for carving??
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My experiences with Spruce have not been very good.  It depends on what you
going to carve, but I didn't care for it.  Besides, you will have to wait 
awhile before it is dry enough to carve.  I am getting too old to have to wait
for my next piece of wood...

Denny Bell
Check out my carvings at <www.cedarstump.us>


From: merrihat at hotmail.com
To: woodcarver at six.pairlist.net
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:08:30 +0000
Subject: [Woodcarver] spruce for carving??








Good morning, All!

    I have a question .  Is spruce good for caving?  We had great winds through
here last night and a friend had a spruce tree go down so he called and wanted
to know if it were good for carving and did I want it.  I don't think I do
because its in big pieces but maybe some of the other members of your club
might.  So that's why I asked...  Thanks for your invaluable information
once again!

Merrilee

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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:09:57 -0400
From: Sally Nye <sarolyn at accn.org>
Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] spruce for carving??
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Merrilee, spruce is good for fan-carving.  Offer it to your own club  
members ...or neighboring clubs.  You want to work on it while it is  
fresh.
Best
Sally
http://www.FanCarversWorld.com



On Jun 29, 2008, at 12:08 PM, Merrilee Johnson wrote:


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> Good morning, All!

>     I have a question .  Is spruce good for caving?  We had great  

> winds through here last night and a friend had a spruce tree go  

> down so he called and wanted to know if it were good for carving  

> and did I want it.  I don't think I do because its in big pieces  

> but maybe some of the other members of your club might.  So that's  

> why I asked...  Thanks for your invaluable information once again!

> Merrilee

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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:31:23 -0600
From: Bill Judt <bjudt at sasktel.net>
Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] spruce for carving??
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Merrilee:

One of my relief carving students undertook and small carving in  
spruce. I warned him of the difficulties he'd face with this wood, but  
he had good reason to choose it.  Actually, the carving turned out  
really well. But he was careful to not force the wood to hold too much  
detail, and he maintained VERY SHARP edges on his tools.

Blessings and Peace,

Bill

Bill Judt
46 Harvard Crescent,
Saskatoon, SK, Canada
S7H3R1
bjudt at sasktel.net




On 29-Jun-08, at 10:08 AM, Merrilee Johnson wrote:

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Good morning, All!
     I have a question .  Is spruce good for caving?  We had great  
winds through here last night and a friend had a spruce tree go down  
so he called and wanted to know if it were good for carving and did I  
want it.  I don't think I do because its in big pieces but maybe some  
of the other members of your club might.  So that's why I asked...   
Thanks for your invaluable information once again!
Merrilee

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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:28:28 +0000
From: Merrilee Johnson <merrihat at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] spruce for carving??(chat)
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Thank you for the information.  I don't know what my friend plans to do
with it besides leave it in chunks for big carving maybe.  I'll tell them
about the relief and the sharp tools though just in case.  Thank you, Bill!
Merrilee

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
One of my relief carving students undertook and small carving in spruce. I
warned him of the difficulties he'd face with this wood, but he had good
reason to choose it.  Actually, the carving turned out really well. But he was
careful to not force the wood to hold too much detail, and he maintained VERY
SHARP edges on his tools.

Blessings and Peace,

Bill

Bill Judt
46 Harvard Crescent,
Saskatoon, SK, Canada
S7H3R1
bjudt at sasktel.net


On 29-Jun-08, at 10:08 AM, Merrilee Johnson wrote:
Gentle Subscribers :-) Please support our List with a donation:
http://wwwoodcarver.com/WWWList/WWWList.htmlGood morning, All!    I have a
question .  Is spruce good for caving?  We had great winds through here last
night and a friend had a spruce tree go down so he called and wanted to know if
it were good for carving and did I want it.  I don't think I do because its
in big pieces but maybe some of the other members of your club might.  So
that's why I asked...  Thanks for your invaluable information once
again!Merrilee

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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:30:26 +0000
From: Merrilee Johnson <merrihat at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] spruce for carving?? (chat)
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Good idea Sally!  It just came down so with that in mind it might get used
sooner.  A couple of our new carvers sat at your class in Evart and ranted
about the fan birds.  Maybe they might want to do a few more!  Thanks!
Merrilee
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Merrilee, spruce is good for fan-carving.  Offer it to your own
club members ...or neighboring clubs.  You want to work on it while it is
fresh.   
Best
Sally

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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:31:30 +0000
From: Merrilee Johnson <merrihat at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] spruce for carving??
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That's about how I feel - I can't wait that long! Thanks for the
reminder though!
Merrilee
Besides, you will have to wait  awhile before it is dry enough to carve.  I am
getting too old to have to wait for my next piece of wood...Denny BellCheck out
my carvings at www.cedarstump.us
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:33:20 +0000
From: Merrilee Johnson <merrihat at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] spruce for carving?? (chat for Sally)
To: "[Woodcarver]" <woodcarver at six.pairlist.net>
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Opps, I forgot to ask another question Sally!  Can't you freeze the wood to
make it last longer?  If this is true how soon does it have to be done and how
long can you store it before using?  Thanks again Sally!
Merrilee
Merrilee, spruce is good for fan-carving.  Offer it to your own club members
...or neighboring clubs.  You want to work on it while it is fresh.   
Best
Sally

http://www.FanCarversWorld.com

 
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:09:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Donna Menke <donpbk at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] spruce for carving?? (chat for Sally)
To: "\[Woodcarver\]" <woodcarver at six.pairlist.net>
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I hope the answer is that it keeps forever because I've had some of
Sally's wood waiting for me in the freezer for a number of years waiting
for  someday.

 Donna Menke
http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com 
Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book


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> From: Merrilee Johnson <merrihat at hotmail.com>

> To: [Woodcarver] <woodcarver at six.pairlist.net>

> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 6:33:20 PM

> Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] spruce for carving?? (chat for Sally)

> 

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>  Opps, I forgot to ask another question Sally!  Can't you freeze the

wood to 

> make it last longer?  If this is true how soon does it have to be done and

how 

> long can you store it before using?  Thanks again Sally!

> Merrilee

> 

> 

> 

> Merrilee, spruce is good for fan-carving.  Offer it to your own club

members 

> ...or neighboring clubs.  You want to work on it while it is fresh.   

> Best

> Sally

> 

> http://www.FanCarversWorld.com

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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:53:37 -0400
From: Sally Nye <sarolyn at accn.org>
Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] spruce for carving?? (chat for Sally)
To: "\[Woodcarver\]" <woodcarver at six.pairlist.net>
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Merrilee, the sooner you can get the log bucked-up the better  
(especially this time of year).  You can run a hose on the log to  
keep it moist and also keep it in the shade.  That will buy you some  
time.  Get the blanks from the rounds, place them in a pot of water &  
simmer about 1-2 hrs.  Then you can store them in plastic bags in the  
freezer.

Over time, the wood can get a bit rubbery in the freezer but it is  
still workable.  As with anything, the more skilled you are at  
riving, the more you will compensate for that condition.  Thawing the  
wood by using hot water can help.

Donna, we'll get you going at Carv-Fest 08 in Faribault.  We're  
looking forward to it.
Best
Sally
http://www.FanCarversWorld.com



On Jun 29, 2008, at 7:33 PM, Merrilee Johnson wrote:

> Opps, I forgot to ask another question Sally!  Can't you freeze the  

> wood to make it last longer?  If this is true how soon does it have  

> to be done and how long can you store it before using?

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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 07:04:33 -0700
From: "RICHARD L ROMBOLD" <zwwizard at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] spruce for carving?? (chat for Sally)
To: "[Woodcarver]" <woodcarver at six.pairlist.net>
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If this was a large tree, check out the growth rings, if they are nice and
tight,  see if any luthier in your area might want some.  spruce is used for
the tops of a lot of instruments.
Richard, 

Richard L. Rombold
WIZARD WOODWORKING
489 N. 32nd. St.
Springfield, Or .97478

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  From: Sally Nye<mailto:sarolyn at accn.org> 
  To: [Woodcarver]<mailto:woodcarver at six.pairlist.net> 
  Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 5:53 AM
  Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] spruce for carving?? (chat for Sally)


  Gentle Subscribers :-) Please support our List with a donation:
http://wwwoodcarver.com/WWWList/WWWList.html<http://wwwoodcarver.com/WWWList/WWWList.html>

  Merrilee, the sooner you can get the log bucked-up the better (especially
this time of year).  You can run a hose on the log to keep it moist and also
keep it in the shade.  That will buy you some time.  Get the blanks from the
rounds, place them in a pot of water & simmer about 1-2 hrs.  Then you can
store them in plastic bags in the freezer. 


  Over time, the wood can get a bit rubbery in the freezer but it is still
workable.  As with anything, the more skilled you are at riving, the more you
will compensate for that condition.  Thawing the wood by using hot water can
help.


  Donna, we'll get you going at Carv-Fest 08 in Faribault.  We're
looking forward to it.   
  Best
  Sally    

  http://www.FanCarversWorld.com<http://www.fancarversworld.com/>






  On Jun 29, 2008, at 7:33 PM, Merrilee Johnson wrote:
    Opps, I forgot to ask another question Sally!  Can't you freeze the
wood to make it last longer?  If this is true how soon does it have to be done
and how long can you store it before using?
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