[Woodcarver] 1" Belt Sharpening equipment query

[WorkingInWood]

Hi Gord,
Sure, I would like to get a look at the pictures of the other jigs.  Send them along if you get a chance.
Colchester is the small village I live in, and Harrow is the mailing address (big deal - they have a post office - we've got the lake!  lol).

Larry Robertson

http://mycarvingclub.com/Larry_in_Harrow

--- On Fri, 9/19/08, gjpat at cyberbeach.net <gjpat at cyberbeach.net> wrote:
From: gjpat at cyberbeach.net <gjpat at cyberbeach.net>
Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] 1" Belt Sharpening equipment query
To: "WorkingInWood" <larry at workinginwood.net>
Date: Friday, September 19, 2008, 11:39 AM


 
Hi Larry;

Thank you, great pics and explanation.

The CrarverSharp system (which nobody seems to have) has a similar set
up.

They used square tubing , one sliding inside the other , actually two
setups, one that dropped down below the bench level  to handle
longer tools and the other just  at bench level.

Actually the basic CarverSharp itself looks quite similar to the unit you
have except the lower pulley/wheel is much smaller and they managed to
construct it in such away that the belt and platten are even with the
frame holding the motor at the bottom pulley.

As I said previously I have discovered how that can be achieved on your
type of unit, rather simple solution, if you want I can send a pic
showing how...not my invention just a pic I found while surfing.(G)

Also I found pics of another jig that seems to do the job of holding the
tool on your type of unit.

It started off it's life as a jig for sharpening gouges on a Delta belt
sander, but a slight modification made it usable on your type of unit. I
can send pis of it as well if you are interested.


BTW I noticed you use to list your location as Colchester now it's
Harrow, have you moved or just a name change for your local
area?


Thanks again for taking the time to post pics of your jig, looks like a
handy jig.

Much appreciated.


Gord.




At 10:53 AM 9/19/2008, you wrote:

Hi Gord,

I've put some pics of my rig on my Picturetrail album titled
"Sharpening".  Go to:


http://www.picturetrail.com/workinginwood


The tools set in center punch holes in handle ends on the point. 
The distance from the point to the belt can be set by eye or more
accurately using the sine value of the bevel angle you want.  It
probable seems anal retentive to set bevel angles on carving tools but I
find it faster in the long run.  By setting the angle the same every
time less material must be removed to maintain the edge and therefore the
grind goes faster, not to mention all the tools cut at the same
angle.  This is more important in cabinet chisels and plane
blades.

To set a specific angle measure the total length of the tool and multiply
the value by the sine value of the angle you want.  For example the
length of the #8 gouge pictured is 9 and 1/4" and the sine value of
18 degrees is .30902.   Soooo- 9.25 x .30902 = 2.86" or
approximately 2 and 7/8".  No problem.

Hope this helps.


Larry Robertson


http://mycarvingclub.com/Larry_in_Harrow


--- On Thu, 9/18/08, gjpat at cyberbeach.net
<gjpat at cyberbeach.net> wrote:

From: gjpat at cyberbeach.net <gjpat at cyberbeach.net>
Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] 1" Belt Sharpening equipment query
To: "WorkingInWood" <larry at workinginwood.net>
Date: Thursday, September 18, 2008, 3:54 PM


Hi Larry;
Thanks for the reply.


Is it possible to see some pics of  the jig you created for
sharpening carving palm and mallet tools?
As I remember one of the short comings of  unit carried by Lee
valley  was that any fair sized (over 1" wide) gouges/chisels
had to be sharpened high up on the belt as the unit frame projected out
past the belt and prevented any movement across the belt to the left side
on the lower portion of the belt (down near the large wheel/pulley), to
me it made about half the length of the belt and platten unusable for
large tools ?
This drawback and also what I considered as too high a rate of speed
of the unit was the reason I got rid of the one I had purchased from Lee
Valley many years ago, of course I have since discovered how I could have
got around the belt and frame problem, aah too soon old too late
smart.(G)
Even though I don't have that particular unit anymore  I would
still be interested to seeing what kind of a jig you made up for the palm
and mallet tools, if possible.
I've sent this private as you can't send pics to the list.


TIA


Gord.




At 02:32 PM 9/18/2008, you wrote:



Hi,
The basic machine that both Chipping Away and Lee Valley sells is
manufactured by Viel Tools of 33 Beland st.L'Isle-Verte, Quebec, Canada,
G0L 1K1.  Their website is:

http://www.vieltools.com/index.php
They also produce many jigs for this grinder.  As well as
sharpening carving tools I also use the scissor,  and knife blade
jigs a lot.  I see they also have a new jig for carving tools
available.  I made up my own jig for carving tools both palm and
mallet tools so I haven't tried theirs.  The blue zirconia belts
they sell work very well and don't heat up tool blades if care is taken.
They sell the basic machine both with motor or without.  Check
out the Trizac belts they sell for this rig.  Excellent for putting
an usable edge on kitchen knives (dull to sharp in less than a
minute).




Larry Robertson

http://mycarvingclub.com/Larry_in_Harrow
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