From whitwood at fairpoint.net Sun Aug 2 08:22:47 2009 From: whitwood at fairpoint.net (Marcia Berkall) Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 08:22:47 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Sunday Woodcarver Chat Message-ID: <20090802122249.DAA0B290E6B@smtp1.av-mx.com> Join in on the fun!!! For informative and fun REAL TIME conversations with a number of the carvers on "The List", come to the Woodcarver chats. We don't always talk about carving, but if anyone has a question or comment, we can get serious in a hurry. Get to know the people behind the names. And bring you carving questions with you!!! We meet on Wednesday nights at 9:30 PM Eastern and on Sundays at 4:30 PM Eastern. If you are NOT using an IRC chat program, I think you will like these simplified instructions!!! Just click on one of the links below...either will take you directly to #Woodcarverchat http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_williamslake.html?chan=#Woodcarverchat http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_stopover.html?chan=#woodcarverchat This may take a LONG time to load!!!!!!! Don't give up. When it finally does load, you will be asked to type in a nickname.....then click connect, and wait a little bit longer. The chat screen will open. Type something in the narrow horizontal space just below the chat screen and hit you enter key. Nothing to it! :) If you are using WebTV or still have trouble getting there, one of these links will work...we just save them as a last resort in case all other links don't work: http://63.79.14.90/cgi-bin/irc.cgi http://cobra-ip1.vipershells.com/cgi-bin/irc.cgi http://stopover.ky.us.starlink-irc.org/cgi-bin/irc.cgi (This one will have the fastest connection) Type in a nickname where it says"nickname"i Where is says, "channel", type in #woodcarverchat (don't forget the #). ******* If you are using an mIRC chat program: 1. Log onto your ISP. 2. Open mIRC. You should see a box "mIRC Options". If you don't then click on View then on "Options" Fill in the information there...you do NOT have to put in your real name or email address. For security purposes, make them up. Do put in the nickname you want and an alternative. 4. Click on the button with the sunburst icon, just to the right of the button that says, "Connect to Server". Where it says "IRC Network", scroll down until you see "Starlink-IRC" and highlight that so it shows in the window. There is also a Starlink network, so make sure that the one you select has the "IRC" after it. Now click on the arrow next to the IRC server window. That will list a number of Starlink-IRC servers....select one of them. The Starlink-IRC random server will automatically pick one of the servers for you, so you can use that one. With one of the Starlink-IRC servers in the window, click on "Connect to Server" If the Starlink Random Server is not in your mirc program you can add it: Click the "add" button. Where it says "Description" type "Starlink Random Server" Where it says "IRC Server" type IRC.STARLINK-IRC.ORG Port should be 6664,6665,6666,6667,6668,6669 (all of those with no spaces between them) and "Group" is Starlink-IRC 5. Once connected, you'll see lots of scrolling text. When that stops, type /join #Woodcarverchat in the window at the bottom and hit your "enter" key. (you need the / and #, and Woodcarverchat must be spelled exactly right) I have put these instructions on a web page with direct links at http://artwebmaine.com/woodcarverchat.html You may want to bookmark it. ******* See you there! E-mail me off the list for additional information and instructions. Marcia Berkall whitwood at fairpoint.net See Marcia's wood carvings at: Whittlins 'n Wood Web Page Blog ***** ArtWeb Maine--Affordable Web Page Design ***** Become a Facebook Fan of Whittlins 'n Wood -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From womeditor at comcast.net Sun Aug 2 22:23:24 2009 From: womeditor at comcast.net (Matt Kelley) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 22:23:24 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Chat - Secret Pal summer session shipping info sent Message-ID: <752DE42F-F7DF-4F10-B957-13C5962EE0A1@comcast.net> Good Evening Woodcarvers everywhere - If you registered and were confirmed for the W3E Secret Pal Summer Session, you should have received shipping info earlier this evening - if you did not receive your shipping info, please contact me OFF LIST. If you did NOT register for the Secret Pal summer session - that's really too bad. Mark your calendar to join us for the Fall session. Registration will begin on the Autumnal Equinox, September 22. Carve On! Matt *********************************************** Matt Kelley: Woodcarver, E-zine Editor, W3E Coordinator Woodcarver Online Magazine, W3Exchange Programs, Carver Resource Files at: http://carverscompanion.com Carving Shirts & Gear at: http://carverscompanion.com/cclogostuff/logostuff.html CelticCarver WoodWorks: http://celtcarver.com From pinocchiocarver at aol.com Mon Aug 3 02:39:13 2009 From: pinocchiocarver at aol.com (pinocchiocarver at aol.com) Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 02:39:13 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] COPYRIGHT rules In-Reply-To: <4A6EE0D1.2010709@vm.state.nj.us> References: <8CBDD3FABD4355C-127C-100E@WEBMAIL-MY19.sysops.aol.com> <4A6EE0D1.2010709@vm.state.nj.us> Message-ID: <8CBE21C3F9D827B-14A8-1F19@mblk-d38.sysops.aol.com> Thank you for the informations about copyright. Thank you Tom Clake and Joe Dillet. Mike G. -----Original Message----- From: Tom Clarke To: [Woodcarver] Sent: Tue, Jul 28, 2009 6:28 am Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] COPYRIGHT rules Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. pinocchiocarver at aol.com wrote: Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. Hello All,? ????????? I lost the letters about copyright from Ivan Whillock and Joe Dillet. My family are asking lots of questions about copyright and carving. So I could print them to read them self to understand about co ???????? Feel free to browse my carving. http://www.picturetrail.com/gladwingeppetto?. I have a new dog, one year old Boxer named Duke. I am little worr ????? Happy Carving. Have a great week. Mike G. PinocchioCarver at aol.com A Good Credit Score is 700 _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver This is my general understanding about copyrights. The originator owns all rights to the material. He/she can choose to give away or sell some, none, or all of those rights.?? By buying the book or magazine, you purchase certain rights as expressed in the copyright notice. The best way to find out what you have purchased is to look at the copyright notice.? Most often the authors want to protect reproduction of the pattern, because that is what they are selling.? Often they grant the carver the right to make and sell carvings based on the patterns, but not to reproduce or sell the patterns.? There are a few who present the pattern "for instructional purposes only" and restrict even the selling of carvings made from the patterns. They have that right.?? Remember, by buying the book you are not automatically buying all rights, or even necessarily the commercial rights to the material.? Some authors offer the patterns with the assumption that they will be used strictly by amateurs and not by people who are in carving for commerc ial purposes. Enforcement is up to the holder of the copyright.? People with clout, Disney, for example, have much more success in protecting their products from unauthorized reproduction than others.? The average carver has no such power.? A lot of unauthorized copying takes place because there is a misunderstanding of the rights or an inability--or reluctance--of the holder of the copyright to enforce? them. Since most of the authors are ordinary folks like you and me, some don't care whether you sell carvings from their patterns or not.? Some care but are "too nice" to do anything about it. Chances are, however, the author is reachable.? I'd bet most would appreciate being asked for permission if there is a doubt. Ivan Whillock Studio 122 NE 1st Avenue Faribault, MN? 55021 *********************************************************** Hi Cynda, "Ok, new question: How does one get a copywrite? on carvings, drawings, patterns, etc???" There are two things of copyright you are probably confusing. You *Have* a copyright the moment you create whatever it is. Boom! Done deal! What you are more likely asking is how to register a copyright. That is done through the Library of Congress, LOC.gov. For my books, I am required to send two copies plus the $60 fee (for each title) and then maybe 6 or 12 weeks later, I get a very official form, much like a propety deed, stating my registered ownership fo the copyright to teh work. The process itself is easy and clear, the forms are there on the LOC page, just print and fill out and submit. :) Jud *********************************************************** Hi Cynda, "That I knew, the registered one, but what about the copywrights I see on web sites, pictures, etc.? There is only one of each carving, etc.? I see the copywrite sign, c within a circle, on these things. Does that had any weight?? Does marking each article, piece of art, etc have any legal substance?" Yes and no. As I said, it is copyright the moment you create it. Anything beyond that is a matter of what you have to prove that copyright if the need ever arose. Registering it with the LOC is one way, and for printed material, the standard. For works of art, the statement is soemitmes added to reproductions of it or displays of it, such as an image on a web page, mainly to make clear that takign a photo of it is prohibited. For instance, on one of my woodcarving albums, though clear that I own the copyrights to anything I have created and the images of them that I created, I have not noted anything and don't care if anyone wants to download copies of those images, with one exception: the piece I commissioned by Tange, to which I also own the copyright, I do state in the caption my claim and specifically prohibit copying or reprocution of that image without prior written permission of the copyright owner, ie, me. So the legal fact of copyright exists upon creation. Marking the piece is a statement that you are prepared to enforce your rights under that legal protection. :) Jud *********************************************************** Hi Cynda, Any copyright has weight but you need to go through the expense of enforcing it by filing a civil action. The court decides, based on the evidence, if your copyright has been violated. To get anything from civil actions you need to prove lose of income directly or through reputation. There have been cases where I sold my copyright for more than the original artwork like a pattern for the Last Supper. The copyright was sold to a different individual than the original work. On some commissions, where copyable work is involved, I quote two prices, one for the original work and one price for the copyright. Most of my work the copyright stays with me after I sell the work. Copyright can be another source of income. Another reason for copyrights is to maintain the rights to produce it. I had a product line that I added new designs every year. One company was copying them as painting and not carvings. I decided not to enforce my copyright because, even though they were copying my ideas, their product was different enough to not negatively effect my income. Over the years that company forgot where they got the patterns and filed for there own copyright. Than they tried to enforce they're copyright and told me to stop producing them. Fortunately I was able to show them that my copyright per-dated theirs. If I had not copyrighted them it would have been more difficult for me to prove that I had the original design and I could have lost that whole product line. The link for the copyright forms is http://www.loc.gov/copyright/forms/ True story about a woodcarver friend of mine in Milwaukee. A beer company commissioned him to design a belt buckle depicting the end of a barrel with their logo. Through negotiation it was decided that the woodcarver would maintain rights to the copyright and only supply the beer company with 200 cast belt buckles. A year or so later a foundry took a buckle and copied it and started selling them. The woodcarver went to his attorney to enforce his copyright. The attorney said it wasn't worth the effort. However about two years after that the attorney called the woodcarver and said now it was worth it because they could prove the foundry had produced thousands and the original pattern degraded so they could prove lose of reputation by the poor quality. His settlement was substantial enough to build him a new building and make his life comfortable. Find a good attorney to help you understand copyright law. There have been significant changes to copyright law in the last few years. Check with your local art league or university for attorneys who donate their time to helping the arts. These are the attorneys that can help you because they deal with it more often and are more willing to donate all or a portion of their time. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. 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I do have space with my IP but they demand MS FrontPage, now discontinued and those available cost $299.00, plus it is one application I do not like. -- Have a good day, Sam From abkinnaman at earthlink.net Mon Aug 3 18:08:18 2009 From: abkinnaman at earthlink.net (Byron) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 18:08:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] Web Hosting (Chat) Message-ID: <23841873.1249337300844.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> I use Lunarpages http:\\www.lunarpages.com, They've got some pretty good promotions going at the moment. I purchased 4 years worth for around $4.00 per month. Unlimited space, unlimited bandwidth. You could when I got the service use either Windows Server or a Unix server. I chose to use Unix to have more flexibility. There's several web applications through fantastico that are there for use, fantastico makes installing web apps easier. Here's two web sites for you to look at that I own or manage. http:\\byronscabin.kinnamans.net (still working on this one.) http:\\capitolwoodcarvers.org The tech support for Lunarpages has been good for what little I've needed them. Byron -----Original Message----- >From: Sam >Sent: Aug 3, 2009 5:16 PM >To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com >Subject: [Woodcarver] Web Hosting (Chat) > >Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. > > > >This mainly pertains to carvings (mine). I have used GeoCities >for my web site for over 10 years but they are cancelling their >free web sites. > >One, someone who is purchasing web space, could they recommend a >site which as been good to them. >Two, if their experience is bad, which sites should I avoid at >all costs. > >I do have space with my IP but they demand MS FrontPage, now >discontinued and those available cost $299.00, plus it is one >application I do not like. > >-- >Have a good day, >Sam > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Woodcarver mailing list >Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From whitwood at fairpoint.net Mon Aug 3 21:09:30 2009 From: whitwood at fairpoint.net (Marcia Berkall) Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:09:30 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Web Hosting (Chat) In-Reply-To: <504901241.20090803161622@aeneas.net> References: <752DE42F-F7DF-4F10-B957-13C5962EE0A1@comcast.net> <504901241.20090803161622@aeneas.net> Message-ID: <20090804010932.2A38D1BFD2A@smtp0.av-mx.com> Hi, Sam, There are a lot of decent web hosting services out there. I have been using ixwebhosting ( http://ixwebhosting.com ) for my own pages and for the client pages that I host. They have a basic plan for as little as $3.95/month I have had no problems at all. Good luck!! Marcia (aka Mush) See Marcia's wood carvings at: Whittlins 'n Wood Web Page Blog ***** ArtWeb Maine--Affordable Web Page Design ***** Become a Facebook Fan of Whittlins 'n Wood -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From celtcarver at me.com Mon Aug 3 21:26:15 2009 From: celtcarver at me.com (Matt Kelley) Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:26:15 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Web Hosting (Chat) In-Reply-To: <504901241.20090803161622@aeneas.net> References: <752DE42F-F7DF-4F10-B957-13C5962EE0A1@comcast.net> <504901241.20090803161622@aeneas.net> Message-ID: <5D4E6589-9C3F-4E3F-8643-5B74554B5618@me.com> I'd be remiss if I didn't mention pair.com, who have been hosting the Carvers' Companion web sites almost since day one. Easy to work with, reliable, and they have a hobby hosting catagory for a pretty reasonable price. They also don't care what product you are using to build your web site (although IMHO you should avoid any web building product from MS, as their products tend not to play well with other browsers). Matt Kelley Sent from my iPhone On Aug 3, 2009, at 5:16 PM, Sam wrote: > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html > to donate. > > > > This mainly pertains to carvings (mine). I have used GeoCities > for my web site for over 10 years but they are cancelling their > free web sites. > > One, someone who is purchasing web space, could they recommend a > site which as been good to them. > Two, if their experience is bad, which sites should I avoid at > all costs. > > I do have space with my IP but they demand MS FrontPage, now > discontinued and those available cost $299.00, plus it is one > application I do not like. > > -- > Have a good day, > Sam > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From abkinnaman at earthlink.net Tue Aug 4 00:46:33 2009 From: abkinnaman at earthlink.net (Byron) Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:46:33 -0700 Subject: [Woodcarver] Web Hosting (Chat) In-Reply-To: <5D4E6589-9C3F-4E3F-8643-5B74554B5618@me.com> References: <752DE42F-F7DF-4F10-B957-13C5962EE0A1@comcast.net> <504901241.20090803161622@aeneas.net> <5D4E6589-9C3F-4E3F-8643-5B74554B5618@me.com> Message-ID: <4A77BD29.9000804@earthlink.net> Most of us that do web development on a regular basis don't like MS browsers or web development products. I've wasted more time trying to get web pages to render properly in IE. Yuck.. Matt Kelley wrote: > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit > carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. > > > I'd be remiss if I didn't mention pair.com, who have been hosting the > Carvers' Companion web sites almost since day one. Easy to work with, > reliable, and they have a hobby hosting catagory for a pretty > reasonable price. They also don't care what product you are using to > build your web site (although IMHO you should avoid any web building > product from MS, as their products tend not to play well with other > browsers). > > Matt Kelley > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 3, 2009, at 5:16 PM, Sam wrote: > >> Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit >> carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. >> >> >> >> This mainly pertains to carvings (mine). I have used GeoCities >> for my web site for over 10 years but they are cancelling their >> free web sites. >> >> One, someone who is purchasing web space, could they recommend a >> site which as been good to them. >> Two, if their experience is bad, which sites should I avoid at >> all costs. >> >> I do have space with my IP but they demand MS FrontPage, now >> discontinued and those available cost $299.00, plus it is one >> application I do not like. >> >> -- >> Have a good day, >> Sam >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Woodcarver mailing list >> Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > From barnhardts at carolina.rr.com Tue Aug 4 06:29:57 2009 From: barnhardts at carolina.rr.com (Barney Barnhardt) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 06:29:57 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Web Hosting (Chat) In-Reply-To: <4A77BD29.9000804@earthlink.net> References: <752DE42F-F7DF-4F10-B957-13C5962EE0A1@comcast.net> <504901241.20090803161622@aeneas.net><5D4E6589-9C3F-4E3F-8643-5B74554B5618@me.com> <4A77BD29.9000804@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <603041F3AFF940FDAB916C77A97A28E9@LAPTOP1> Most of us that do web development on a regular basis don't like MS browsers or web development products. I've wasted more time trying to get web pages to render properly in IE. Yuck.. Then why isn't there more use of other browsers? From whitwood at fairpoint.net Tue Aug 4 08:06:30 2009 From: whitwood at fairpoint.net (Marcia Berkall) Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:06:30 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Web Hosting-browsers (Chat) In-Reply-To: <603041F3AFF940FDAB916C77A97A28E9@LAPTOP1> References: <752DE42F-F7DF-4F10-B957-13C5962EE0A1@comcast.net> <504901241.20090803161622@aeneas.net> <5D4E6589-9C3F-4E3F-8643-5B74554B5618@me.com> <4A77BD29.9000804@earthlink.net> <603041F3AFF940FDAB916C77A97A28E9@LAPTOP1> Message-ID: <20090804120633.473F61BFC44@smtp0.av-mx.com> There is. Firefox is more and more popular all the time! Here are some current statistics from http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp Browser Statistics Month by Month 2009 IE7 IE6 IE8 Firefox Chrome Safari Opera July 15.9% 14.4% 9.1% 47.9% 6.5% 3.3% 2.1% Personally, I avoid using IE whenever I can. You can often tell a site that was done using FrontPage (or other MS software)...they don't work correctly in other browsers. Marcia (aka Mush) > Then why isn't there more use of other browsers? See Marcia's wood carvings at: Whittlins 'n Wood Web Page Blog ***** ArtWeb Maine--Affordable Web Page Design ***** Become a Facebook Fan of Whittlins 'n Wood -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From abkinnaman at earthlink.net Tue Aug 4 10:56:57 2009 From: abkinnaman at earthlink.net (Byron) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 07:56:57 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Woodcarver] Web Hosting (Chat) Message-ID: <27780199.1249397818265.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> There's several reasons, 1. IE is bundled and necessary with MS operating systems. (There's been a lot of litigation about this in non US markets) 2. Web developers spend a lot of extra time making their web sites work with IE. 3. Many people won't go to the trouble of downloading and using another browser. 4. Even then there's 270 million using FoxFire. Now I'll ask another question. If IE is so good why is there FoxFire, Chrome, and Safari? Byron -----Original Message----- >From: Barney Barnhardt >Sent: Aug 4, 2009 3:29 AM >To: "'[Woodcarver]'" >Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Web Hosting (Chat) > >Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. > > > > > > >Most of us that do web development on a regular basis don't like MS >browsers or web development products. I've wasted more time trying to >get web pages to render properly in IE. Yuck.. > > > Then why isn't there more use of other browsers? > >_______________________________________________ >Woodcarver mailing list >Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From snordha1 at nycap.rr.com Tue Aug 4 12:58:19 2009 From: snordha1 at nycap.rr.com (Steve Nordhauser) Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:58:19 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Web Hosting (Chat) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A7868AB.7070603@nycap.rr.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbanne at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 01:21:25 2009 From: jbanne at gmail.com (Banne Jacques) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:21:25 +0300 Subject: [Woodcarver] Web Hosting (Chat) In-Reply-To: <4A77BD29.9000804@earthlink.net> References: <752DE42F-F7DF-4F10-B957-13C5962EE0A1@comcast.net> <504901241.20090803161622@aeneas.net> <5D4E6589-9C3F-4E3F-8643-5B74554B5618@me.com> <4A77BD29.9000804@earthlink.net> Message-ID: *Hi Friends** * *May I suggest trying the tk company for free domain name and free hosting.* *I invite all of you to visit my site* *http://www.minisculpture.tk * * ( I'm not fishing visitors believe me or not, just trying to help)* * when you enter, you will see at the top right side, a small banner, all you have to do is to push the button and follow the instructions.* *Keep carving* *Jacques* * * *sorry 4 my bad english is the one who is francophone to translate to proper english my email?* * * * * On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Byron wrote: > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit > carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. > > > Most of us that do web development on a regular basis don't like MS > browsers or web development products. I've wasted more time trying to get > web pages to render properly in IE. Yuck.. > > > > Matt Kelley wrote: > >> Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit >> carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. >> >> >> I'd be remiss if I didn't mention pair.com, who have been hosting the >> Carvers' Companion web sites almost since day one. Easy to work with, >> reliable, and they have a hobby hosting catagory for a pretty reasonable >> price. They also don't care what product you are using to build your web >> site (although IMHO you should avoid any web building product from MS, as >> their products tend not to play well with other browsers). >> >> Matt Kelley >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 3, 2009, at 5:16 PM, Sam wrote: >> >> Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit >>> carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. >>> >>> >>> >>> This mainly pertains to carvings (mine). I have used GeoCities >>> for my web site for over 10 years but they are cancelling their >>> free web sites. >>> >>> One, someone who is purchasing web space, could they recommend a >>> site which as been good to them. >>> Two, if their experience is bad, which sites should I avoid at >>> all costs. >>> >>> I do have space with my IP but they demand MS FrontPage, now >>> discontinued and those available cost $299.00, plus it is one >>> application I do not like. >>> >>> -- >>> Have a good day, >>> Sam >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Woodcarver mailing list >>> Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Woodcarver mailing list >> Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tclarke at vm.state.nj.us Tue Aug 4 12:50:12 2009 From: tclarke at vm.state.nj.us (Tom Clarke) Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:50:12 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Web Hosting (Chat) In-Reply-To: <27780199.1249397818265.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <27780199.1249397818265.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4A7866C4.4010905@vm.state.nj.us> Byron, First; IE isn't so good. Like all MS products it's just barely 'good enough' and frequently they skirt the line on even that. Second; it's because there are talented people who fall into two categories: A). they simply want to make things better and, B). They purely HATE MS and all it's components. Tom (nj) ;--) Byron wrote: > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. > > > > There's several reasons, > 1. IE is bundled and necessary with MS operating systems. (There's been a lot of litigation about this in non US markets) > 2. Web developers spend a lot of extra time making their web sites work with IE. > 3. Many people won't go to the trouble of downloading and using another browser. > 4. Even then there's 270 million using FoxFire. > > Now I'll ask another question. > If IE is so good why is there FoxFire, Chrome, and Safari? > > Byron > -----Original Message----- > >> From: Barney Barnhardt >> Sent: Aug 4, 2009 3:29 AM >> To: "'[Woodcarver]'" >> Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Web Hosting (Chat) >> >> Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Most of us that do web development on a regular basis don't like MS >> browsers or web development products. I've wasted more time trying to >> get web pages to render properly in IE. Yuck.. >> >> >> Then why isn't there more use of other browsers? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Woodcarver mailing list >> Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver >> > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From iowawoodcarver at gmail.com Tue Aug 4 12:48:43 2009 From: iowawoodcarver at gmail.com (Corey Hallagan) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:48:43 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Web Hosting (Chat) In-Reply-To: <4A77BD29.9000804@earthlink.net> References: <752DE42F-F7DF-4F10-B957-13C5962EE0A1@comcast.net> <504901241.20090803161622@aeneas.net> <5D4E6589-9C3F-4E3F-8643-5B74554B5618@me.com> <4A77BD29.9000804@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <49d3fd9d0908040948w1d6cdd77n1fd302594d04b81f@mail.gmail.com> Many folks simpley don't know that there are other browsers out there. It comes loaded on every machine. IE is full of loop holes for hackers to get in. Since IE is the most widely used program, hackers write there programs based on it. Firefox immediately reduced the amount of spyware and adware on my computer. I really like it.. and it's fast. Corey On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Byron wrote: > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit > carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. > > > Most of us that do web development on a regular basis don't like MS > browsers or web development products. I've wasted more time trying to get > web pages to render properly in IE. Yuck.. > > > Matt Kelley wrote: > >> Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit >> carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. >> >> >> I'd be remiss if I didn't mention pair.com, who have been hosting the >> Carvers' Companion web sites almost since day one. Easy to work with, >> reliable, and they have a hobby hosting catagory for a pretty reasonable >> price. They also don't care what product you are using to build your web >> site (although IMHO you should avoid any web building product from MS, as >> their products tend not to play well with other browsers). >> >> Matt Kelley >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 3, 2009, at 5:16 PM, Sam wrote: >> >> Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit >>> carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. >>> >>> >>> >>> This mainly pertains to carvings (mine). I have used GeoCities >>> for my web site for over 10 years but they are cancelling their >>> free web sites. >>> >>> One, someone who is purchasing web space, could they recommend a >>> site which as been good to them. >>> Two, if their experience is bad, which sites should I avoid at >>> all costs. >>> >>> I do have space with my IP but they demand MS FrontPage, now >>> discontinued and those available cost $299.00, plus it is one >>> application I do not like. >>> >>> -- >>> Have a good day, >>> Sam >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Woodcarver mailing list >>> Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Woodcarver mailing list >> Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > -- Corey Iowa Carver Visit My Website At: http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ http://picasaweb.google.com/IowaWoodCarver Twitter: Challagan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barnhardts at carolina.rr.com Tue Aug 4 13:51:48 2009 From: barnhardts at carolina.rr.com (Barney Barnhardt) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 13:51:48 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Web Hosting-browsers (Chat) In-Reply-To: <20090804120633.473F61BFC44@smtp0.av-mx.com> References: <752DE42F-F7DF-4F10-B957-13C5962EE0A1@comcast.net><504901241.20090803161622@aeneas.net><5D4E6589-9C3F-4E3F-8643-5B74554B5618@me.com><4A77BD29.9000804@earthlink.net><603041F3AFF940FDAB916C77A97A28E9@LAPTOP1> <20090804120633.473F61BFC44@smtp0.av-mx.com> Message-ID: <94617FE2D6BB470BBDFCE8B67676EE3A@LAPTOP1> As indicated on w3schools site, these figures are not necessarily 100% correct >From their site "These facts indicate that the browser figures above are not 100% realistic. Other web sites have statistics showing that Internet Explorer is used by at least 80% of the users." Why should I as a IE user even consider changing to another browser such as Firefox? I checked their site and the only comparison I saw is of their version 3 vs 3.5. There is no comparison of their product and IE. Don't know about you folks, but it usually takes a little more than a verbal statement without corroborating facts to induce me to make a significant change in something like this. I'm not trying to hammer you Firefox folks here so don't even start to think that, but I've heard the alternate browser talk for years, but have "never" seen anything to give me even a bit of a reason to change. I'm open to hearing any good reasons you may have. Barney _____ From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Marcia Berkall Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 8:07 AM To: [Woodcarver] Subject: [Woodcarver] Web Hosting-browsers (Chat) There is. Firefox is more and more popular all the time! Here are some current statistics from http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp Browser Statistics Month by Month 2009 IE7 IE6 IE8 Firefox Chrome Safari Opera July 15.9% 14.4% 9.1% 47.9% 6.5% 3.3% 2.1% Personally, I avoid using IE whenever I can. You can often tell a site that was done using FrontPage (or other MS software)...they don't work correctly in other browsers. Marcia (aka Mush) Then why isn't there more use of other browsers? See Marcia's wood carvings at: Whittlins 'n Wood Web Page Blog ***** ArtWeb Maine--Affordable Web Page Design ***** Become a Facebook Fan of Whittlins 'n Wood -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whitwood at fairpoint.net Tue Aug 4 14:12:41 2009 From: whitwood at fairpoint.net (Marcia Berkall) Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 14:12:41 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Web Hosting-browsers (Chat) In-Reply-To: <94617FE2D6BB470BBDFCE8B67676EE3A@LAPTOP1> References: <752DE42F-F7DF-4F10-B957-13C5962EE0A1@comcast.net> <504901241.20090803161622@aeneas.net> <5D4E6589-9C3F-4E3F-8643-5B74554B5618@me.com> <4A77BD29.9000804@earthlink.net> <603041F3AFF940FDAB916C77A97A28E9@LAPTOP1> <20090804120633.473F61BFC44@smtp0.av-mx.com> <94617FE2D6BB470BBDFCE8B67676EE3A@LAPTOP1> Message-ID: <20090804181244.0F99B290D9B@smtp1.av-mx.com> Barney, no problem. What makes the world go 'round is that we all like different things. There are several reasons that I CHOOSE to use Firefox. The main one being the lack of security loopholes inherent in IE (and my own admitted dislike for Microsoft software). It's the same reason I wouldn't use Outlook Express for email. They are just way too prone to attack for me. As others have mentioned, since Microsoft software is the most common....because you can't buy a PC without it...it is most prone to hackers. It could very well be that 80% of users use IE for that same reason. It's right there on the computer you buy, and many people are not aware that other browsers even exist. Others simply don't want to learn a new program. My aim is not to try to induce you to make any changes. I responded to a question with my opinion. If you are happy with what you are using, then, by all means, stick with it. There are many sites that do in-depth comparisons of all the big browsers...makes for some interesting reading :) By the way, that web site, www.w3schools.com is the bible of web designers, Their lessons on design are sound, accurate and most of us who do design web pages know it VERY well. Enjoy. whichever browser you choose :) Marcia (aka Mush) At 01:51 PM 8/4/2009, Barney wrote: >As indicated on w3schools site, these figures are not necessarily 100% correct > From their site >"These facts indicate that the browser figures above are not 100% >realistic. Other web sites have statistics showing that Internet >Explorer is used by at least 80% of the users." > >Why should I as a IE user even consider changing to another browser >such as Firefox? I checked their site and the only comparison I saw >is of their version 3 vs 3.5. There is no comparison of their >product and IE. Don't know about you folks, but it usually takes a >little more than a verbal statement without corroborating facts to >induce me to make a significant change in something like this. I'm >not trying to hammer you Firefox folks here so don't even start to >think that, but I've heard the alternate browser talk for years, but >have "never" seen anything to give me even a bit of a reason to >change. I'm open to hearing any good reasons you may have. > >Barney See Marcia's wood carvings at: Whittlins 'n Wood Web Page Blog ***** ArtWeb Maine--Affordable Web Page Design ***** Become a Facebook Fan of Whittlins 'n Wood -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From abkinnaman at earthlink.net Tue Aug 4 14:23:47 2009 From: abkinnaman at earthlink.net (Byron) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:23:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] Web Hosting-browsers (Chat) Message-ID: <30784014.1249410228052.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Barney, Those of us that are in the in or around the internet business world have grown to understand a bit about how these things work. We read a lot of information some from places like Cnet and many others. I mentioned Cnet because it probably the best known source of internet information. I also read from places like Site Point. A couple of things about IE have been known for years, one is the security holes and the other is MS doesn't adhere to the standards. When some of us write the code for a web site we follow the standards, then we have either make changes or detect that your browser is IE and create special code just to accommodate IE. It is often thought that MS tries to make things difficult for users of non MS applications and thereby have created some negatives among some of us. When IE 8 was about to be released MS pulled it back and redid some it to make it closer to operating like the standards, to much relief of the web developers. So there you have it. Some people will continue to use IE and others wont. Web developers will continue to accommodate MS and IE, we just would rather not have to do that. Byron -----Original Message----- From: Barney Barnhardt Sent: Aug 4, 2009 1:51 PM To: "'[Woodcarver]'" Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Web Hosting-browsers (Chat) As indicated on w3schools site, these figures are not necessarily 100% correct >From their site ?These facts indicate that the browser figures above are not 100% realistic. Other web sites have statistics showing that Internet Explorer is used by at least 80% of the users.? Why should I as a IE user even consider changing to another browser such as Firefox? I checked their site and the only comparison I saw is of their version 3 vs 3.5. There is no comparison of their product and IE. Don?t know about you folks, but it usually takes a little more than a verbal statement without corroborating facts to induce me to make a significant change in something like this. I?m not trying to hammer you Firefox folks here so don?t even start to think that, but I?ve heard the alternate browser talk for years, but have ?never? seen anything to give me even a bit of a reason to change. I?m open to hearing any good reasons you may have. Barney From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Marcia Berkall Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 8:07 AM To: [Woodcarver] Subject: [Woodcarver] Web Hosting-browsers (Chat) There is. Firefox is more and more popular all the time! Here are some current statistics from http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp Browser Statistics Month by Month 2009 IE7 IE6 IE8 Firefox Chrome Safari Opera July 15.9% 14.4% 9.1% 47.9% 6.5% 3.3% 2.1% Personally, I avoid using IE whenever I can. You can often tell a site that was done using FrontPage (or other MS software)...they don't work correctly in other browsers. Marcia (aka Mush) Then why isn't there more use of other browsers? See Marcia's wood carvings at: Whittlins 'n Wood Web Page Blog ***** ArtWeb Maine--Affordable Web Page Design ***** Become a Facebook Fan of Whittlins 'n Wood From lcorbett at cableone.net Tue Aug 4 14:54:17 2009 From: lcorbett at cableone.net (Lori Corbett) Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 12:54:17 -0600 Subject: [Woodcarver] Web Hosting-browsers (Chat) In-Reply-To: <31999426.1249409649779.JavaMail.root@n18> References: <752DE42F-F7DF-4F10-B957-13C5962EE0A1@comcast.net> <504901241.20090803161622@aeneas.net> <5D4E6589-9C3F-4E3F-8643-5B74554B5618@me.com> <4A77BD29.9000804@earthlink.net> <603041F3AFF940FDAB916C77A97A28E9@LAPTOP1> <20090804120633.473F61BFC44@smtp0.av-mx.com> <94617FE2D6BB470BBDFCE8B67676EE3A@LAPTOP1> <31999426.1249409649779.JavaMail.root@n18> Message-ID: <4A7883D9.2040302@cableone.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You would think there would be standards from browser to browser...but Microsoft...well, ok, I won't go there! :) Marcia (aka Mush) At 02:54 PM 8/4/2009, Loriwrote: >Marcia, >On a tangent, but sorta relevant...I have created a niche for myself >on some freelancing sites of SPECIALIZING in fixing rendering issues >with IE6 (yes some people refuse to quit wanting to design for it), >IE7, IE8. And I keep very busy. I have (9) browsers loaded onto my >machine and I test and correct for all of them (none are perfect, >but some are closer than others). When I do design, I design for >Firefox FIRST. Opera, Chrome and Safari will almost always fall into >line. THEN I start the process of making the IE's work. Believe it >or not, some folks even want to design for Netscape, still. It's a >double edged sword for me...while for myself, refusing to design for >outdated browsers will force folks to upgrade to at least a newer >version of whatever browser they are currently using, I freelance in >correcting the issues for these very browsers :-). As long as it >pays the bills, I'll keep doing it...BUT, I try to educate my >clients on the advantages of designing for the later, standards >compliant versions. personally I can't understand folks not >upgrading to the latest versions of their current browser. It's >relatively painless these days. There WAS a time, however when, even >though I use Firefox, and have almost since its inception, I >wouldn't load it onto my Mom's computer...though a better browser in >many respects, it did have it's usability issues - ironically with >upgrading. But I wouldn't hesitate to load it onto her machine now. >Lori See Marcia's wood carvings at: Whittlins 'n Wood Web Page Blog ***** ArtWeb Maine--Affordable Web Page Design ***** Become a Facebook Fan of Whittlins 'n Wood -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Linehan718 at aol.com Tue Aug 4 17:48:37 2009 From: Linehan718 at aol.com (Linehan718 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 17:48:37 EDT Subject: [Woodcarver] Web Hosting-browsers (Chat) Message-ID: In a message dated 8/4/2009 1:52:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, barnhardts at carolina.rr.com writes: As indicated on w3schools site, these figures are not necessarily 100% correct >From their site ?These facts indicate that the browser figures above are not 100% realistic. Other web sites have statistics showing that Internet Explorer is used by at least 80% of the users.? Why should I as a IE user even consider changing to another browser such as Firefox? I checked their site and the only comparison I saw is of their version 3 vs 3.5. There is no comparison of their product and IE. Don?t know about you folks, but it usually takes a little more than a verbal statement without corroborating facts to induce me to make a significant change in something like this. I?m not trying to hammer you Firefox folks here so don?t even start to think that, but I?ve heard the alternate browser talk for years, but have ?never? seen anything to give me even a bit of a reason to change. I?m open to hearing any good reasons you may have. Barney Hi Barney, I personally believe that the figures of IE users are much higher to almost 90% of all people using pcs. I am guilty of using ie just like most everyone else. Why? because it comes standard on most systems and I am just too lazy to look further into it or do anything about it. However, the case against MS ie is quite easy to make from my point of view. You want reasons and facts? In the early days of MS they were hit with many anti trust lawsuits, they were creating a monopoly. They had exclusive deals with all of the major pc manufacturers to only use their products, including their operating systems, preloading the ie browser, and MS word and office products. There have been congressional hearings and many lawsuits in the late 80s and 90s reguarding Microsofts business practices which were requiring manufacturers to bundle all microsofts major software together, there were pay offs and kick backs and racketeering practices in play. But as MS(and Bill Gates) got richer and richer, it became harder and harder to fight them. Smaller developers were crushed and pushed out of the industry. Although it took over 20 years, the US gov't finally got involved. Lots of damage was done in the preceding 20 years leading to MSs current monopoly on OSs and browers. United States v. Microsoft was a set of consolidated civil actions filed against _Microsoft Corporation_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Corporation) on May 18, 1998 by the _United States Department of Justice_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Justice) (DOJ) and 20 U.S. states. _Joel I. Klein_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Klein) was the lead prosecutor. The plaintiffs alleged that Microsoft abused _monopoly_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly) power on Intel-based personal computers in its handling of _operating system_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system) sales and _web browser_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_browser) sales. The issue central to the case was whether Microsoft was allowed to bundle its flagship _Internet Explorer_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer) (IE) web browser software with its _Microsoft Windows_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows) operating system. Bundling them together is alleged to have been responsible for Microsoft's victory in the _browser wars_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browser_wars) as every Windows user had a copy of Internet Explorer. It was further alleged that this unfairly restricted the market for competing web browsers (such as _Netscape Navigator_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netscape_Navigator) or _Opera_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera_(web_browser)) ) that were slow to download over a modem or had to be purchased at a store. Underlying these disputes were questions over whether Microsoft altered or manipulated its _application programming interfaces_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_programming_interface) (APIs) to favor Internet Explorer over third party web browsers, Microsoft's conduct in forming restrictive licensing agreements with _original equipment manufacturer_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_equipment_manufacturer) (OEMs), and Microsoft's intent in its course of conduct. Microsoft stated that the merging of Microsoft Windows and Internet Explorer was the result of _innovation_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innovation) and _competition_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competition) , that the two were now the same product and were inextricably linked together and that consumers were now getting all the benefits of IE for free. Those who opposed Microsoft's position countered that the browser was still a distinct and separate product which did not need to be tied to the operating system, since a separate version of Internet Explorer was available for _Mac OS_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS) . They also asserted that IE was not really free because its development and marketing costs may have kept the price of Windows higher than it might otherwise have been. The trial started on May 18, 1998 with the U.S. Justice Department and the Attorneys General of twenty U.S. states suing Microsoft for illegally thwarting competition in order to protect and extend its software monopoly. Later, in October the US Justice Department also sued Microsoft for violating a 1994 consent decree by forcing computer makers to include its Internet browser as a part of the installation of Windows software. During the antitrust case it was revealed that Microsoft had threatened PC manufacturers with revoking their license to distribute Windows if they removed the Internet Explorer icon from the initial desktop,[_citation needed_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed) ] something that Netscape had requested of its licensees.[_citation needed_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed) ] Microsoft Chairman _Bill Gates_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Gates) was called "evasive and nonresponsive" by a source present at a session in which Gates was questioned on his deposition._[2]_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft#cite_note-1) He argued over the definitions of words such as "compete", "concerned", "ask", and "we"._[3]_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft#cite_note-2) BusinessWeek reported, "Early rounds of his deposition show him offering obfuscatory answers and saying 'I don't recall' so many times that even the presiding judge had to chuckle. Worse, many of the technology chief's denials and pleas of ignorance have been directly refuted by prosecutors with snippets of E-mail Gates both sent and received."_[4]_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft#cite_note-3) _Intel_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel) Vice-President _Steven McGeady_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_McGeady) , called as a witness, quoted _Paul Maritz_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Maritz) , a senior Microsoft vice president as having stated an intention to "extinguish" and "smother" rival _Netscape Communications Corporation_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netscape_Communications_Corporation) and to "cut off Netscape's air supply" by giving away a clone of Netscape's flagship product for free. The Microsoft executive denied the allegations In short MS lost the anti trust case. and they were forced to have a government appointed watchdog breathe down their neck for the next 5 years. When that time-limit expired, MS went back to business as usual. Now to put this in laymans terms, if the US gov't decided to ban all auto imports and banned all foreign parts being used in US cars and further made it so that foreign parts would not work properly with american cars in order to keep all the money spent on cars going into only US companies, everyone would be driving fords and chevys. Patriotism and free markets concerns aside, that would keep the US consumer from having access to cheaper and perhaps in some cases, superior autos and auto components. Just because everyone was driving US made cars, americans would not really care what else was being manufactured in the rest of the world and the american companies would become quite rich. So now we compare this to what happened with internet browsers. All you need to do is go and talk to some of the non MS programmers and computer code writers, they fall into two main categories, those that outright hate what MS did to competing companies on principal and those who have personally been screwed because of MSs attempts to monopolize the pc industry. There are technically much better browsers out there, netscape, opera, mozilla, firefox, just to name a few. Superior products which are better written and not subjected to the hacking which is aimed at the more pervasive IE browser. Microsoft is so intent at keeping its OS and browser monopoly going, that as soon as sales start to fall off, they rush to put out new versions of their OS and browser before they even perfect the product. Microsoft has made Mr. Gates one of the richest men in the world but there is still widespread corruption at work in the pc world due to Microsofts domination. It has always been alleged that microsoft has designed its operating systems in such a way that other browsers will not play nicely with MS systems. Unix has always been considered a far more superior Operating System than windows by those with any technical knowledge but walk into any major electronics store and see how many systems are preloaded with Unix, NONE!!! The only competition is Mac(apple). You go into a store, you buy a pc, you learn how to use windows and IE, every pc you come in contact with uses windows and IE, you get comfortable with it. In order to use the superior unix, you need to purchase that separately for hundreds of dollars more, load it into your pc, relearn how to use your pc. Then when you go to buy fancy software and pc programs(which have under the table proprietary deals with MS), you find that most are only compatable with Microsoft operating systems and eventually you get fed up and go back to using MS. That's why I use windows and IE and why you use windows and IE, but don't kid yourself, you are only using it cause it was forced down your throat by the MS computer monopoly, not because its a better product. Maura _www.Carvinginnyc.com_ (http://www.carvinginnyc.com/) **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=115&bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From abkinnaman at earthlink.net Tue Aug 4 20:03:26 2009 From: abkinnaman at earthlink.net (Byron) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 20:03:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] Web Hosting-browsers (Chat) Message-ID: <14757664.1249430606742.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> There's been some changes in the computer world in past few years. Apple is making in roads into the PC market share. MS with Windows 7 is attempting to create a situation where you'll have to buy a new computer, that is probably going to backfire. Linux is also making inroads, now MS can no longer force hardware sales companies to install MS OS or pay for it. Another area that growing fast, quietly to most, is open source software. The beauty of open source is the attitude of the programmers, they're not interested in making a killing off their efforts only making the best software around. That's way most open source software is free. Tech support might cost a bit, if needed. I use several open source apps on my web pages and on my computer. If noticed there's been a bit of MS advertising lately. From m.bloomquist at woodendreamz.com Thu Aug 6 07:40:25 2009 From: m.bloomquist at woodendreamz.com (m.bloomquist) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:40:25 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Web Hosting-browsers (Chat) In-Reply-To: <20090804120633.473F61BFC44@smtp0.av-mx.com> Message-ID: Sorry for coming in late on this thread, but I was gone for a bit. I use Earthlink to host my site (and set me up with my domain name). It was recommended to me by Mike and Sue Irish of www.carvingpatterns.com and at $19.95/month, has been very good so far. Internet Exploder. (errrr Explorer that is) is impossible to separate from MS-XP or Veritas (or anything MS) otherwise I would have Mozilla Firefox exclusively. I used to be a big fan of Netscape, but not lately. I still keep an old copy of it around for "Composer", which brings me to my question. You folks that do your own websites. what authoring tool do you use? Agreed, Front Page is not an option. I'm not above going in and hand wiring something that isn't working quite right, but that piece-of-crud doubles the file size (at least) with all the MS overhead that's in there, and I can't see enough value added. Feel free to e-mail me off-line with this one. It's starting to veer away from woodcarving. Keep on Carvin' -Mike B.-> Wooden Dreams Woodcarving http://www.woodendreamz.com -----Original Message----- From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Marcia Berkall -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From denny_bell at hotmail.com Thu Aug 6 10:14:21 2009 From: denny_bell at hotmail.com (Denny Bell) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:14:21 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Web Hosting-browsers (Chat) In-Reply-To: References: <20090804120633.473F61BFC44@smtp0.av-mx.com> Message-ID: I just put a website together for my sister-in-law who breeds Shih-Tzu (AceOfPups.net). It is hosted by Dynamod (Dynamod.com) and uses something called "Flash". It is very easy to work with and the support is terrific, but you are limited to the templates they offer. The price is good as well. Some people have told me it has some problems on IE, but I haven't verified that yet. It was made on a Mac with Mozilla Firefox. Denny Bell Check out my carvings at From: m.bloomquist at woodendreamz.com To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:40:25 -0400 Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Web Hosting-browsers (Chat) Sorry for coming in late on this thread, but I was gone for a bit. I use Earthlink to host my site (and set me up with my domain name). It was recommended to me by Mike and Sue Irish of www.carvingpatterns.com and at $19.95/month, has been very good so far. Internet Exploder? (errrr Explorer that is) is impossible to separate from MS-XP or Veritas (or anything MS) otherwise I would have Mozilla Firefox exclusively. I used to be a big fan of Netscape, but not lately. I still keep an old copy of it around for ?Composer?, which brings me to my question? You folks that do your own websites? what authoring tool do you use? Agreed, Front Page is not an option. I?m not above going in and hand wiring something that isn?t working quite right, but that piece-of-crud doubles the file size (at least) with all the MS overhead that?s in there, and I can?t see enough value added. Feel free to e-mail me off-line with this one. It?s starting to veer away from woodcarving. Keep on Carvin' -Mike B.-> Wooden Dreams Woodcarving http://www.woodendreamz.com -----Original Message----- From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Marcia Berkall _________________________________________________________________ Get free photo software from Windows Live http://www.windowslive.com/online/photos?ocid=PID23393::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_PH_software:082009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From none332 at mchsi.com Thu Aug 6 12:44:10 2009 From: none332 at mchsi.com (George Farrell) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 12:44:10 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Web Hosting-browsers (Chat) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi m.bloomquist I am Web Master for the Arrowhead Property Owners Association. When I took over the website some years ago, it had been written using MicroSlop Something OrOther. The first thing that I did was to "View Source" to see what the code looked like so that I could make changes to it. My machine then (and still is) a MAC -- the NicroSlop application that built the site of course, would not work in my machine. Beside which, the MicroSlop code gave problems to my machine. I immediately when on line to find something that would tell me what I was looking at. I ultimately found the "Bare Bones Guide to HTML". It can be found at http://werbach.com/barebones/ It is generic, so a website built with it can be viewed by ANY machine regardless of what the browser is. Using this Bare Bones Guide, I was able to interpret what I was looking at, and to then rebuild the site. The site in question is http://arrowheadbeach.home.mchsi.com/ I also used it to build my own site http://none332.home.mchsi.com/ George Farrell none332 at mchsi.com Happiness is a tall boat and a breeze to sail her by On Aug 6, 2009, at 7:40 AM, m.bloomquist wrote: > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit > carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. > > > Sorry for coming in late on this thread, but I was gone for a bit. > > I use Earthlink to host my site (and set me up with my domain > name). It was recommended to me by Mike and Sue Irish of www.carvingpatterns.com > and at $19.95/month, has been very good so far. > > Internet Exploder? (errrr Explorer that is) is impossible to > separate from MS-XP or Veritas (or anything MS) otherwise I would > have Mozilla Firefox exclusively. I used to be a big fan of > Netscape, but not lately. I still keep an old copy of it around for > ?Composer?, which brings me to my question? > > You folks that do your own websites? what authoring tool do you > use? Agreed, Front Page is not an option. I?m not above going in > and hand wiring something that isn?t working quite right, but that > piece-of-crud doubles the file size (at least) with all the MS > overhead that?s in there, and I can?t see enough value added. Feel > free to e-mail me off-line with this one. It?s starting to veer > away from woodcarving. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whitwood at fairpoint.net Thu Aug 6 14:54:34 2009 From: whitwood at fairpoint.net (Joseph Berkall) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:54:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] Web HtML Editors (Chat) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2386.75.21.173.7.1249584874.squirrel@webmail.fairpoint.net> Hey Mike... Writing this from Harrison, Michigan... I have been using Coffeecup HTML Editor for over 10 years, almost since their very beginning. The program is great...yeah it has some built-in, design templates, but there is no unnecessary code...just straight forward code. There is a WYSIWYG component which you can use or not use. The program is affordable.reliable, and the company offers free upgrades for life. Marcia (aka Mush) From celtcarver at comcast.net Tue Aug 11 15:19:34 2009 From: celtcarver at comcast.net (Matt Kelley) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 15:19:34 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Carve-Fest or Jackstock Reports? Message-ID: Hello All - Well I know some of our members were at the Carv-Fest or at JackStock this past weekend - anyone willing to report back, have photos posted, etc? Matt *********************************************** Matt Kelley: Woodcarver, E-zine Editor, W3E Coordinator Woodcarver Online Magazine, W3Exchange Programs, Carver Resource Files at: http://carverscompanion.com Carving Shirts & Gear at: http://carverscompanion.com/cclogostuff/logostuff.html CelticCarver WoodWorks: http://celtcarver.com From jdillett at thecarvingshop.net Tue Aug 11 18:07:01 2009 From: jdillett at thecarvingshop.net (Joe Dillett) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:07:01 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Carve-Fest report References: Message-ID: <61C0CA9F89E34774A2ECBC2EFF378F73@Joe> Hi Matt, Sharon and I went to Carv-Fest so I can give you a quick overview but I don't have pictures or numbers to share. I can tell you that it was well attended and a great success. The Whillock's did an awesome job organizing and advertising the event. There were 40 classes scheduled to run Saturday and Sunday in 8 classroom areas. These classes were well attended. I had 18 students in my 2 drawing classes. Other classes had about the same, averaging 7 to 8 students per class. In addition there were demonstrations running almost the entire show. These demonstrations were free and also well attended. I'm guessing there were about 20 booths plus vendors. I didn't have a booth so I don't know how the sales were but we ended up buying some things. The raffle went extremely well for Sharon and I because we won a carving by Marv Kaisersatt. I want to thank the Whillocks for all the hard work they did to make Carv-Fest a success. These type of events rarely make money. They do it to promote woodcarving and not to make money. Hopefully the carvers supported it well enough so that it at least met expenses. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Kelley" To: "Woodcarver List" Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 2:19 PM Subject: [Woodcarver] Carve-Fest or Jackstock Reports? > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit > carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. > > > Hello All - > > Well I know some of our members were at the Carv-Fest or at JackStock > this past weekend - anyone willing to report back, have photos posted, > etc? > > Matt > *********************************************** > Matt Kelley: Woodcarver, E-zine Editor, W3E Coordinator > > Woodcarver Online Magazine, W3Exchange Programs, > Carver Resource Files at: http://carverscompanion.com > Carving Shirts & Gear at: > http://carverscompanion.com/cclogostuff/logostuff.html > CelticCarver WoodWorks: http://celtcarver.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > From springer1424 at msn.com Wed Aug 12 07:25:07 2009 From: springer1424 at msn.com (STEVE SPRINGER) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:25:07 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] W3E Exchange Message-ID: Received my W3E carving from Tom Hindes today. What a surprise. I got nine carvings insread of one. Seems Tom is into miniature carvings. Instead of a friendship cane I am the proud owner of a friendship "Swizzle" stick. Tom you put a lot of detail into a small area. Thank you so much. Matt thanks for making this possible. Steve Springer Newport, TN -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Just click on one of the links below...either will take you directly to #Woodcarverchat http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_williamslake.html?chan=#Woodcarverchat http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_stopover.html?chan=#woodcarverchat This may take a LONG time to load!!!!!!! Don't give up. When it finally does load, you will be asked to type in a nickname.....then click connect, and wait a little bit longer. The chat screen will open. Type something in the narrow horizontal space just below the chat screen and hit you enter key. Nothing to it! :) If you are using WebTV or still have trouble getting there, one of these links will work...we just save them as a last resort in case all other links don't work: Only one of these links is working today: http://stopover.ky.us.starlink-irc.org/cgi-bin/irc.cgi (This one will have the fastest connection) Type in a nickname where it says"nickname"i Where is says, "channel", type in #woodcarverchat (don't forget the #). ******* If you are using an mIRC chat program: 1. Log onto your ISP. 2. Open mIRC. You should see a box "mIRC Options". If you don't then click on View then on "Options" Fill in the information there...you do NOT have to put in your real name or email address. For security purposes, make them up. Do put in the nickname you want and an alternative. 4. Click on the button with the sunburst icon, just to the right of the button that says, "Connect to Server". Where it says "IRC Network", scroll down until you see "Starlink-IRC" and highlight that so it shows in the window. There is also a Starlink network, so make sure that the one you select has the "IRC" after it. Now click on the arrow next to the IRC server window. That will list a number of Starlink-IRC servers....select one of them. The Starlink-IRC random server will automatically pick one of the servers for you, so you can use that one. With one of the Starlink-IRC servers in the window, click on "Connect to Server" If the Starlink Random Server is not in your mirc program you can add it: Click the "add" button. Where it says "Description" type "Starlink Random Server" Where it says "IRC Server" type IRC.STARLINK-IRC.ORG Port should be 6664,6665,6666,6667,6668,6669 (all of those with no spaces between them) and "Group" is Starlink-IRC 5. Once connected, you'll see lots of scrolling text. When that stops, type /join #Woodcarverchat in the window at the bottom and hit your "enter" key. (you need the / and #, and Woodcarverchat must be spelled exactly right) I have put these instructions on a web page with direct links at http://artwebmaine.com/woodcarverchat.html You may want to bookmark it. ******* See you there! E-mail me off the list for additional information and instructions. Marcia Berkall whitwood at fairpoint.net See Marcia's wood carvings at: Whittlins 'n Wood Web Page Blog ***** ArtWeb Maine--Affordable Web Page Design ***** Become a Facebook Fan of Whittlins 'n Wood -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhartne at mindspring.com Thu Aug 13 16:55:06 2009 From: jhartne at mindspring.com (Joe) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 15:55:06 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] W3E Exchange Message-ID: Received my W3E exchange gift from Dave Dunlap today. Thank you Dave for the Woodspirit with his pipe. He is really cool. 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URL: From whitwood at fairpoint.net Sun Aug 16 14:47:51 2009 From: whitwood at fairpoint.net (Marcia Berkall) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 14:47:51 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Sunday Woodcarver Chat Message-ID: <20090816184755.EB3051BFACE@smtp0.av-mx.com> I won't be at the chat at 4:30, but check in anyhow. There is likely to be someone there. If not, then come back later. We WILL be there tonight.~~mush Join in on the fun!!! For informative and fun REAL TIME conversations with a number of the carvers on "The List", come to the Woodcarver chats. We don't always talk about carving, but if anyone has a question or comment, we can get serious in a hurry. Get to know the people behind the names. And bring you carving questions with you!!! We meet on Wednesday nights at 9:30 PM Eastern and on Sundays at 4:30 PM Eastern. If you are NOT using an IRC chat program, I think you will like these simplified instructions!!! Just click on one of the links below...either will take you directly to #Woodcarverchat http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_williamslake.html?chan=#Woodcarverchat http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_stopover.html?chan=#woodcarverchat This may take a LONG time to load!!!!!!! Don't give up. When it finally does load, you will be asked to type in a nickname.....then click connect, and wait a little bit longer. The chat screen will open. Type something in the narrow horizontal space just below the chat screen and hit you enter key. Nothing to it! :) If you are using WebTV or still have trouble getting there, one of these links will work...we just save them as a last resort in case all other links don't work: http://63.79.14.90/cgi-bin/irc.cgi http://cobra-ip1.vipershells.com/cgi-bin/irc.cgi http://stopover.ky.us.starlink-irc.org/cgi-bin/irc.cgi (This one will have the fastest connection) Type in a nickname where it says"nickname"i Where is says, "channel", type in #woodcarverchat (don't forget the #). ******* If you are using an mIRC chat program: 1. Log onto your ISP. 2. Open mIRC. You should see a box "mIRC Options". If you don't then click on View then on "Options" Fill in the information there...you do NOT have to put in your real name or email address. For security purposes, make them up. Do put in the nickname you want and an alternative. 4. Click on the button with the sunburst icon, just to the right of the button that says, "Connect to Server". Where it says "IRC Network", scroll down until you see "Starlink-IRC" and highlight that so it shows in the window. There is also a Starlink network, so make sure that the one you select has the "IRC" after it. Now click on the arrow next to the IRC server window. That will list a number of Starlink-IRC servers....select one of them. The Starlink-IRC random server will automatically pick one of the servers for you, so you can use that one. With one of the Starlink-IRC servers in the window, click on "Connect to Server" If the Starlink Random Server is not in your mirc program you can add it: Click the "add" button. Where it says "Description" type "Starlink Random Server" Where it says "IRC Server" type IRC.STARLINK-IRC.ORG Port should be 6664,6665,6666,6667,6668,6669 (all of those with no spaces between them) and "Group" is Starlink-IRC 5. Once connected, you'll see lots of scrolling text. When that stops, type /join #Woodcarverchat in the window at the bottom and hit your "enter" key. (you need the / and #, and Woodcarverchat must be spelled exactly right) I have put these instructions on a web page with direct links at http://artwebmaine.com/woodcarverchat.html You may want to bookmark it. ******* See you there! E-mail me off the list for additional information and instructions. Marcia Berkall whitwood at fairpoint.net See Marcia's wood carvings at: Whittlins 'n Wood Web Page Blog ***** ArtWeb Maine--Affordable Web Page Design ***** Become a Facebook Fan of Whittlins 'n Wood -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dge1 at comcast.net Sun Aug 16 18:03:05 2009 From: dge1 at comcast.net (Doug Evans) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:03:05 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Mark Gargac In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001701ca1ebd$55a9e410$00fdac30$@net> Hey !! Mark had an article in Carving or WCI for his Santa's/Elfs' within the last year or so. I can't find it. Does anyone know what publication and issue ?? Thanks !! Doug Evans From celtcarver at me.com Sun Aug 16 18:11:14 2009 From: celtcarver at me.com (Matt Kelley) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:11:14 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Mark Gargac In-Reply-To: <001701ca1ebd$55a9e410$00fdac30$@net> References: <001701ca1ebd$55a9e410$00fdac30$@net> Message-ID: <058667E6-9B69-412D-BA7C-B70E885907CD@me.com> Pretty sure it was in WCI ... Matt Matt Kelley Sent from my iPhone On Aug 16, 2009, at 6:03 PM, Doug Evans wrote: > Hey !! Mark had an article in Carving or WCI for his Santa's/Elfs' > within > the last year or so. I can't find it. Does anyone know what > publication and > issue ?? > > Thanks !! > > > Doug Evans > > ____________________________ From pondawater at embarqmail.com Sun Aug 16 19:49:14 2009 From: pondawater at embarqmail.com (Harry Potter) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:49:14 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Mark Gargac In-Reply-To: <058667E6-9B69-412D-BA7C-B70E885907CD@me.com> Message-ID: <0BBE64F1D625422E8281BFCB542AF1FE@Wanda> Woodcarving Illustrated Issue 41 Wanda H. Potter 302 5th St. Denison, KS. 66419 wanda.potter at embarqmail.com http:/picturetrail.com/photos/pondawater 1-785-935-2551 -----Original Message----- From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Matt Kelley Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 5:11 PM To: [Woodcarver] Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Mark Gargac Friends in Carving: support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donat Pretty sure it was in WCI ... Matt Matt Kelley Sent from my iPhone On Aug 16, 2009, at 6:03 PM, Doug Evans wrote: > Hey !! Mark had an article in Carving or WCI for his Santa's/Elfs' > within > the last year or so. I can't find it. Does anyone know what > publication and > issue ?? > > Thanks !! > > > Doug Evans > > ____________________________ _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From pondawater at embarqmail.com Sun Aug 16 19:50:27 2009 From: pondawater at embarqmail.com (Harry Potter) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 18:50:27 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Mark Gargac In-Reply-To: <001701ca1ebd$55a9e410$00fdac30$@net> Message-ID: Woodcarving illustrated Issue 41 Wanda H. Potter 302 5th St. Denison, KS. 66419 wanda.potter at embarqmail.com http:/picturetrail.com/photos/pondawater 1-785-935-2551 -----Original Message----- From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Doug Evans Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 5:03 PM To: '[Woodcarver]' Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Mark Gargac Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. Hey !! Mark had an article in Carving or WCI for his Santa's/Elfs' within the last year or so. I can't find it. Does anyone know what publication and issue ?? Thanks !! Doug Evans _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From dge1 at comcast.net Sun Aug 16 20:34:11 2009 From: dge1 at comcast.net (Doug Evans) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 20:34:11 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Mark Gargac In-Reply-To: References: <001701ca1ebd$55a9e410$00fdac30$@net> Message-ID: <003701ca1ed2$716db0e0$544912a0$@net> Hey I even found it !! Thanks !!! Doug From celtcarver at comcast.net Sun Aug 16 22:23:05 2009 From: celtcarver at comcast.net (Matt Kelley) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2009 22:23:05 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] July/Aug WOM now available Message-ID: <7105FB10-EBE3-416A-AC9D-3FA7A3D9634B@comcast.net> Friends in Carving - Part I of the July/August issue of Woodcarver Online Magazine is now available at http://carverscompanion.com. Once there click on the WOM logo. Included in this issue: ?Dollywood '08 Wood Carving Showcase Report and Gallery *Wood Carvers Roundup (MI) 2009 *"This is your basswood . . ." *"Ol' Don's Drawing Table *Pete LeClair's "Amory" *Events, Happenin's and Going's-on Coming up in Part II VCS Project Announcement A book review or two Enjoy! *********************************************** Matt Kelley: Woodcarver, E-zine Editor, W3E Coordinator Woodcarver Online Magazine, W3Exchange Programs, Carver Resource Files at: http://carverscompanion.com Carving Shirts & Gear at: http://carverscompanion.com/cclogostuff/logostuff.html CelticCarver WoodWorks: http://celtcarver.com From jdillett at thecarvingshop.net Mon Aug 17 08:54:57 2009 From: jdillett at thecarvingshop.net (Joe Dillett) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:54:57 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] July/Aug WOM now available References: <7105FB10-EBE3-416A-AC9D-3FA7A3D9634B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <7F1BB733D6D4489ABF031C24E8B3F2FE@Joe> Thanks Matt for another great issue. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Kelley" To: "Woodcarver List" Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 9:23 PM Subject: [Woodcarver] July/Aug WOM now available Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. Friends in Carving - Part I of the July/August issue of Woodcarver Online Magazine is now available at http://carverscompanion.com. Once there click on the WOM logo. Included in this issue: ?Dollywood '08 Wood Carving Showcase Report and Gallery *Wood Carvers Roundup (MI) 2009 *"This is your basswood . . ." *"Ol' Don's Drawing Table *Pete LeClair's "Amory" *Events, Happenin's and Going's-on Coming up in Part II VCS Project Announcement A book review or two Enjoy! *********************************************** Matt Kelley: Woodcarver, E-zine Editor, W3E Coordinator Woodcarver Online Magazine, W3Exchange Programs, Carver Resource Files at: http://carverscompanion.com Carving Shirts & Gear at: http://carverscompanion.com/cclogostuff/logostuff.html CelticCarver WoodWorks: http://celtcarver.com _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From jancarves3 at rogers.com Tue Aug 18 15:18:24 2009 From: jancarves3 at rogers.com (Jan Oegema) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:18:24 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] July/Aug WOM now available References: <7105FB10-EBE3-416A-AC9D-3FA7A3D9634B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <3D70FE369D514EE28D19BBEB9E2BC9E2@your27e1513d96> Thanks Matt Great reports and alll Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf From whitwood at fairpoint.net Wed Aug 19 17:43:43 2009 From: whitwood at fairpoint.net (Marcia Berkall) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:43:43 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Wednesday Woodcarver Chat Message-ID: <20090819214345.8C973290883@smtp1.av-mx.com> Join in on the fun!!! For informative and fun REAL TIME conversations with a number of the carvers on "The List", come to the Woodcarver chats. We don't always talk about carving, but if anyone has a question or comment, we can get serious in a hurry. Get to know the people behind the names. And bring you carving questions with you!!! We meet on Wednesday nights at 9:30 PM Eastern and on Sundays at 4:30 PM Eastern. If you are NOT using an IRC chat program, I think you will like these simplified instructions!!! Just click on one of the links below...either will take you directly to #Woodcarverchat http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_williamslake.html?chan=#Woodcarverchat http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_stopover.html?chan=#woodcarverchat This may take a LONG time to load!!!!!!! Don't give up. When it finally does load, you will be asked to type in a nickname.....then click connect, and wait a little bit longer. The chat screen will open. Type something in the narrow horizontal space just below the chat screen and hit you enter key. Nothing to it! :) If you are using WebTV or still have trouble getting there, one of these links will work...we just save them as a last resort in case all other links don't work: http://63.79.14.90/cgi-bin/irc.cgi http://cobra-ip1.vipershells.com/cgi-bin/irc.cgi http://stopover.ky.us.starlink-irc.org/cgi-bin/irc.cgi (This one will have the fastest connection) Type in a nickname where it says"nickname"i Where is says, "channel", type in #woodcarverchat (don't forget the #). ******* If you are using an mIRC chat program: 1. Log onto your ISP. 2. Open mIRC. You should see a box "mIRC Options". If you don't then click on View then on "Options" Fill in the information there...you do NOT have to put in your real name or email address. For security purposes, make them up. Do put in the nickname you want and an alternative. 4. Click on the button with the sunburst icon, just to the right of the button that says, "Connect to Server". Where it says "IRC Network", scroll down until you see "Starlink-IRC" and highlight that so it shows in the window. There is also a Starlink network, so make sure that the one you select has the "IRC" after it. Now click on the arrow next to the IRC server window. That will list a number of Starlink-IRC servers....select one of them. The Starlink-IRC random server will automatically pick one of the servers for you, so you can use that one. With one of the Starlink-IRC servers in the window, click on "Connect to Server" If the Starlink Random Server is not in your mirc program you can add it: Click the "add" button. Where it says "Description" type "Starlink Random Server" Where it says "IRC Server" type IRC.STARLINK-IRC.ORG Port should be 6664,6665,6666,6667,6668,6669 (all of those with no spaces between them) and "Group" is Starlink-IRC 5. Once connected, you'll see lots of scrolling text. When that stops, type /join #Woodcarverchat in the window at the bottom and hit your "enter" key. (you need the / and #, and Woodcarverchat must be spelled exactly right) I have put these instructions on a web page with direct links at http://artwebmaine.com/woodcarverchat.html You may want to bookmark it. ******* See you there! E-mail me off the list for additional information and instructions. Marcia Berkall whitwood at fairpoint.net See Marcia's wood carvings at: Whittlins 'n Wood Web Page Blog ***** ArtWeb Maine--Affordable Web Page Design ***** Become a Facebook Fan of Whittlins 'n Wood -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From oldon at earthlink.net Thu Aug 20 07:41:38 2009 From: oldon at earthlink.net (Ol' Don) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 06:41:38 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Secret Pal "Thanks" Message-ID: Thank you Arthur!! Old "Chef Bear" was waiting there, in Hohenwald Tennessee When we arrived from being gone for several weeks to see What snail mail was piled high awaiting our return When in the driveway here at home we made our latest turn. He looked the part and I believe he could do the job at hand If a bar-b-que was called for anywhere in this land. But he's now here in Tennessee and here he's bound to stay Since Arthur Harpool carved him and sent him down our way. A fine addition on the shelf, where he now proudly stands Among the other carvings we've received from o'er the land. Thank you Arthur, thank you Matt, with friends we're truly blesssed And its always fun to share with friends the talents we possess. "Ol' Don" Burgdorf Visit my studio/gallery for a tour of wood carvings and paintings as well as information about my workshops, portfolios and CDs of original patterns created for woodcarvers. -- http://artofdon.com See some of our travel photos and carving aids -- http://www.PictureTrail.com/carveroldon Leiper's Fork, TN carving club -- http://artofdon.com/Club.htm http://mycarvingclub.com/OlDonBurgdorf From donpbk at yahoo.com Thu Aug 20 20:22:09 2009 From: donpbk at yahoo.com (Donna Menke) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] Naiad Wood Carving Blog Message-ID: <617740.91620.qm@web54302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi there fellow woodworkers. I've just posted the start of a new wood carving blog and thought that some of you may be interested in seeing how it goes. So far, so good- but I could mess it up at any time. I have posted the newer post at the top so you need to scroll down to see the first entry. I will show the goofs as well as the good parts and you will see how the goofs are 'fixed'. It may become a totally abstract figure instead of a realistic interpretation- or it may become an expensive piece of firewood. You may want to subscribe to the blog since I will not be posting here when I update it. This one will take a lot of work and a long time. I'd like to have it done for a show in 7 weeks, but that may not be reasonable. Suggestions and comments are welcome on the blog- Thanks, Donna Menke http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book New: Making the Hummingbird, video DVD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjeKRc3dDGE From donpbk at yahoo.com Thu Aug 20 20:26:03 2009 From: donpbk at yahoo.com (Donna Menke) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:26:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] Naiad Wood Carving Blog Message-ID: <575178.88878.qm@web54306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Sorry- forgot the link- duh http://naiadcarving.blogspot.com/ Donna Menke http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book New: Making the Hummingbird, video DVD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjeKRc3dDGE ----- Original Message ---- > From: Donna Menke > To: woodcarver at six.pairlist.net > Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 7:22:09 PM > Subject: Naiad Wood Carving Blog > > Hi there fellow woodworkers. I've just posted the start of a new wood carving > blog and thought that some of you may be interested in seeing how it goes. So > far, so good- but I could mess it up at any time. > I have posted the newer post at the top so you need to scroll down to see the > first entry. > I will show the goofs as well as the good parts and you will see how the goofs > are 'fixed'. It may become a totally abstract figure instead of a realistic > interpretation- or it may become an expensive piece of firewood. You may want to > subscribe to the blog since I will not be posting here when I update it. This > one will take a lot of work and a long time. I'd like to have it done for a show > in 7 weeks, but that may not be reasonable. > Suggestions and comments are welcome on the blog- > Thanks, > Donna Menke > http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com > Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book > New: Making the Hummingbird, video DVD > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjeKRc3dDGE From donpbk at yahoo.com Thu Aug 20 20:35:50 2009 From: donpbk at yahoo.com (Donna Menke) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:35:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] emails Message-ID: <139547.1056.qm@web54302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi Bill, I must have taken myself off of instant notification when I left for vacation- or the group has been very quiet. Could you please put me back to getting the emails. I've forgotten how to do it- Thanks- Donna Menke http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book New: Making the Hummingbird, video DVD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjeKRc3dDGE From pinocchiocarver at aol.com Thu Aug 20 20:51:41 2009 From: pinocchiocarver at aol.com (pinocchiocarver at aol.com) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:51:41 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Naiad Wood Carving Blog In-Reply-To: <575178.88878.qm@web54306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <575178.88878.qm@web54306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CBF010AEA6A4BD-62C-6A6A@webmail-da18.sysops.aol.com> GOOD LUCKS, Donna -----Original Message----- From: Donna Menke To: woodcarver at six.pairlist.net Sent: Thu, Aug 20, 2009 7:26 pm Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Naiad Wood Carving Blog Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. Sorry- forgot the link- duh http://naiadcarving.blogspot.com/ Donna Menke http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book New: Making the Hummingbird, video DVD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjeKRc3dDGE ----- Original Message ---- > From: Donna Menke > To: woodcarver at six.pairlist.net > Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 7:22:09 PM > Subject: Naiad Wood Carving Blog > > Hi there fellow woodworkers. I've just posted the start of a new wood carving > blog and thought that some of you may be interested in seeing how it goes. So > far, so good- but I could mess it up at any time. > I have posted the newer post at the top so you need to scroll down to see the > first entry. > I will show the goofs as well as the good parts and you will see how the goofs > are 'fixed'. It may become a totally abstract figure instead of a realistic > interpretation- or it may become an expensive piece of firewood. You may want to > subscribe to the blog since I will not be posting here when I update it. This > one will take a lot of work and a long time. I'd like to have it done for a show > in 7 weeks, but that may not be reasonable. > Suggestions and comments are welcome on the blog- > Thanks, > Donna Menke > http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com > Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book > New: Making the Hummingbird, video DVD > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjeKRc3dDGE _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Linehan718 at aol.com Thu Aug 20 21:12:19 2009 From: Linehan718 at aol.com (Linehan718 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:12:19 EDT Subject: [Woodcarver] emails Message-ID: sign into yahoo, click on groups, open group and change settings In a message dated 8/20/2009 8:36:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, donpbk at yahoo.com writes: Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. Hi Bill, I must have taken myself off of instant notification when I left for vacation- or the group has been very quiet. Could you please put me back to getting the emails. I've forgotten how to do it- Thanks- Donna Menke http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book New: Making the Hummingbird, video DVD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjeKRc3dDGE _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From celtcarver at me.com Thu Aug 20 22:46:40 2009 From: celtcarver at me.com (W.M. Kelley) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:46:40 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] emails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ahh, hmm - well, going to Yahoo is not going to do anyone on the Woodcarver List a bit of good, as the List is not a Yahoo group. Remember, we're different - there are no adverts on the List (just the occasional faint plea for support.) However, if one goes to http://carverscompanion.com/List/List.html, all will be revealed! I've already sorted out Donna's problem, BTW - she should be receiving messages just fine now! M *********************************************** Matt Kelley: Woodcarver, E-zine Editor, W3E Coordinator, List Owner Woodcarver Online Magazine, W3Exchange Programs, Carver Resource Files at: http://carverscompanion.com Carving Shirts & Gear at: http://carverscompanion.com/cclogostuff/logostuff.html CelticCarver WoodWorks: http://celtcarver.com On Aug 20, 2009, at 9:12 PM, Linehan718 at aol.com wrote: > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit > carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. > > > sign into yahoo, click on groups, open group and change settings > > In a message dated 8/20/2009 8:36:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, donpbk at yahoo.com > writes: > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit > carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. > > > Hi Bill, > I must have taken myself off of instant notification when I left for > vacation- or the group has been very quiet. Could you please put me > back to getting the emails. I've forgotten how to do it- > > Thanks- > Donna Menke > http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com > Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book > New: Making the Hummingbird, video DVD > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjeKRc3dDGE > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From pinocchiocarver at aol.com Thu Aug 20 23:07:36 2009 From: pinocchiocarver at aol.com (pinocchiocarver at aol.com) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:07:36 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] emails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CBF023AB831120-62C-6D06@webmail-da18.sysops.aol.com> can't use yahoo, it screw up my PC, unable to type or control the mouse.?Don't know what or why it happen. I had to removed them. Now running normal. -----Original Message----- From: Linehan718 at aol.com To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Sent: Thu, Aug 20, 2009 8:12 pm Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] emails Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. sign into yahoo, click on groups, open group and change settings ? In a message dated 8/20/2009 8:36:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, donpbk at yahoo.com writes: Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. Hi Bill, I must have taken myself off of instant notification when I left for vacation- or the group has been very quiet. Could you please put me back to getting the emails. I've forgotten how to do it- Thanks- Donna Menke http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book New: Making the Hummingbird, video DVD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjeKRc3dDGE ? ? ? _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Linehan718 at aol.com Thu Aug 20 23:11:33 2009 From: Linehan718 at aol.com (Linehan718 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:11:33 EDT Subject: [Woodcarver] emails Message-ID: Oh sorry I guess I am just on too many lists to keep them all straight In a message dated 8/20/2009 11:03:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, celtcarver at me.com writes: Ahh, hmm - well, going to Yahoo is not going to do anyone on the Woodcarver List a bit of good, as the List is not a Yahoo group. Remember, we're different - there are no adverts on the List (just the occasional faint plea for support.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdkc1982 at gmail.com Fri Aug 21 14:09:02 2009 From: jdkc1982 at gmail.com (Casey Willson) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:09:02 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Naiad Blog: Woodcarver Digest, Vol 1783, Issue 1 Message-ID: The sheer courage of woodcarvers still amazes me! I've never cut a blank, never carved one someone else cut (found wood carver is me!) but I'd love to have those skills. Oops! I did cut a "T" top cane handle day before yesterday in my own design. I forgot about that. Any way, your blog actually gave me a perspective I didn't have so perhaps I'll be able to actually have the courage to start something of that type. I'm AMAZED! Thanks for sharing. Casey > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Donna Menke > Subject: [Woodcarver] Naiad Wood Carving Blog > Hi there fellow woodworkers. I've just posted the start of a new wood > carving blog and thought that some of you may be interested in seeing how it > goes. So far, so good- but I could mess it up at any time. > I have posted the newer post at the top so you need to scroll down to see > the first entry. > I will show the goofs as well as the good parts and you will see how the > goofs are 'fixed'. It may become a totally abstract figure instead of a > realistic interpretation- or it may become an expensive piece of firewood. > You may want to subscribe to the blog since I will not be posting here when > I update it. This one will take a lot of work and a long time. I'd like to > have it done for a show in 7 weeks, but that may not be reasonable. > Suggestions and comments are welcome on the blog- > Thanks, > Donna Menke > http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com > Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book > New: Making the Hummingbird, video DVD > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjeKRc3dDGE > > "Man is only as valuable as he can help others" LRH "You can no more spoil a child with love than you can put out the sun with a bucket of gasoline" LRH -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Corey On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 7:51 PM, wrote: > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit > carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. > > > > GOOD LUCKS, Donna > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Donna Menke > To: woodcarver at six.pairlist.net > Sent: Thu, Aug 20, 2009 7:26 pm > Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Naiad Wood Carving Blog > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html > to donate. > > > Sorry- forgot the link- duhhttp://naiadcarving.blogspot.com/ > > Donna Menkehttp://www.woodworks-by-donna.com > Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book > New: Making the Hummingbird, video DVD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjeKRc3dDGE > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Donna Menke > > To: woodcarver at six.pairlist.net > > Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 7:22:09 PM > > Subject: Naiad Wood Carving Blog > > > > Hi there fellow woodworkers. I've just posted the start of a new wood carving > > blog and thought that some of you may be interested in seeing how it goes. So > > far, so good- but I could mess it up at any time. > > I have posted the newer post at the top so you need to scroll down to see the > > first entry. > > I will show the goofs as well as the good parts and you will see how the goofs > > > are 'fixed'. It may become a totally abstract figure instead of a realistic > > interpretation- or it may become an expensive piece of firewood. You may want > to > > subscribe to the blog since I will not be posting here when I update it. This > > one will take a lot of work and a long time. I'd like to have it done for a > show > > in 7 weeks, but that may not be reasonable. > > Suggestions and comments are welcome on the blog- > > Thanks, > > Donna Menke > > http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com > > Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book > > New: Making the Hummingbird, video DVD > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjeKRc3dDGE > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing listWoodcarver at carverscompanion.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > -- Corey Iowa Carver Visit My Website At: http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ http://picasaweb.google.com/IowaWoodCarver Twitter: Challagan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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They sent me a new "V" tool at no charge, this is what I call service. Yours trully Paul Chittle > From: celtcarver at me.com > To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:46:40 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] emails > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. > > > Ahh, hmm - well, going to Yahoo is not going to do anyone on the > Woodcarver List a bit of good, as the List is not a Yahoo group. > Remember, we're different - there are no adverts on the List (just > the occasional faint plea for support.) > > However, if one goes to http://carverscompanion.com/List/List.html, > all will be revealed! > > I've already sorted out Donna's problem, BTW - she should be > receiving messages just fine now! > > M > > > *********************************************** > Matt Kelley: Woodcarver, E-zine Editor, W3E Coordinator, List Owner > > Woodcarver Online Magazine, W3Exchange Programs, > Carver Resource Files at: http://carverscompanion.com > Carving Shirts & Gear at: http://carverscompanion.com/cclogostuff/logostuff.html > CelticCarver WoodWorks: http://celtcarver.com > > > > > On Aug 20, 2009, at 9:12 PM, Linehan718 at aol.com wrote: > > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit > > carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. > > > > > > sign into yahoo, click on groups, open group and change settings > > > > In a message dated 8/20/2009 8:36:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, donpbk at yahoo.com > > writes: > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit > > carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. > > > > > > Hi Bill, > > I must have taken myself off of instant notification when I left for > > vacation- or the group has been very quiet. Could you please put me > > back to getting the emails. 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URL: From fran.hill72712 at gmail.com Fri Aug 21 22:16:53 2009 From: fran.hill72712 at gmail.com (Fran Hill) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:16:53 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Ashley Isle tool story In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DA501A2C320415FA79619219DE4606A@Notebook> Wow! Now that's an amazing story these days! Thanks for sharing. Arkansas Fran _____ From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Paul Chittle Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:12 PM To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] emails I would like to share with the other carvers on this list an experience I had with Ashley Isles tools. I purchased about 8 Ashley Isles tools from a company in Windsor Ont that was going out of business about 25 years ago. One of the tools was a long bent "V", after a few years of services I broke about 1/2" off of one wing of the tool, I ground it back a have used it since. About a month or so ago the tool broke again on the same wing but this time back about a inch and a half came off the tip. Both times that this tool broke there was no prying involved or any other abuse to the tool. I looked up Ashley Isles tool on the internet and seen that they had an unconditional guarentee . I sent them the broken tool giving them the history of the tool. They sent me a new "V" tool at no charge, this is what I call service. Yours trully Paul Chittle > From: celtcarver at me.com > To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:46:40 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] emails > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. > > > Ahh, hmm - well, going to Yahoo is not going to do anyone on the > Woodcarver List a bit of good, as the List is not a Yahoo group. > Remember, we're different - there are no adverts on the List (just > the occasional faint plea for support.) > > However, if one goes to http://carverscompanion.com/List/List.html, > all will be revealed! > > I've already sorted out Donna's problem, BTW - she should be > receiving messages just fine now! > > M > > > *********************************************** > Matt Kelley: Woodcarver, E-zine Editor, W3E Coordinator, List Owner > > Woodcarver Online Magazine, W3Exchange Programs, > Carver Resource Files at: http://carverscompanion.com > Carving Shirts & Gear at: http://carverscompanion.com/cclogostuff/logostuff.html > CelticCarver WoodWorks: http://celtcarver.com > > > > > On Aug 20, 2009, at 9:12 PM, Linehan718 at aol.com wrote: > > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit > > carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. > > > > > > sign into yahoo, click on groups, open group and change settings > > > > In a message dated 8/20/2009 8:36:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, donpbk at yahoo.com > > writes: > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit > > carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. > > > > > > Hi Bill, > > I must have taken myself off of instant notification when I left for > > vacation- or the group has been very quiet. Could you please put me > > back to getting the emails. 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Both times that this tool broke there was no prying > involved or any other abuse to the tool. > > I looked up Ashley Isles tool on the internet and seen that they had an > unconditional guarentee . I sent them the broken tool giving them the > history of the tool. They sent me a new "V" tool at no charge, this is what > I call service. > > Yours trully Paul Chittle > > > "Man is only as valuable as he can help others" LRH "You can no more spoil a child with love than you can put out the sun with a bucket of gasoline" LRH -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Oregonkarver at aol.com Sat Aug 22 19:28:25 2009 From: Oregonkarver at aol.com (Oregonkarver at aol.com) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:28:25 EDT Subject: [Woodcarver] @W3E Received Message-ID: Got a great little Gnome home from Sandie Burgdorf. Sandi, it is a great carving and my wife took no time at all claiming it. Now I have a mini Gnome home as well as two I have made out of hollow cherry trees logs I had. Thank you again Sandie for such a great carving and thanks to Matt for all of his hard work. Arthur -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From iowawoodcarver at gmail.com Sat Aug 22 19:48:30 2009 From: iowawoodcarver at gmail.com (Corey Hallagan) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 18:48:30 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] W3E Carving Received! Message-ID: <49d3fd9d0908221648h4d67a00bqa91f8ab57abf7a04@mail.gmail.com> Well, it's almost 7:00 and I just finished up after and all day carving session. Got a shower and looked outside and there was a package on the porch. Low and behold it's a package from Ol' Don Burgdorf. Inside on of Don's great little toothpick holders. And she is pretty cute even with a pick in her teeth :) Thanks again Don and Matt, thanks for all you do. 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Just click on one of the links below...either will take you directly to #Woodcarverchat http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_williamslake.html?chan=#Woodcarverchat http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_stopover.html?chan=#woodcarverchat This may take a LONG time to load!!!!!!! Don't give up. When it finally does load, you will be asked to type in a nickname.....then click connect, and wait a little bit longer. The chat screen will open. Type something in the narrow horizontal space just below the chat screen and hit you enter key. Nothing to it! :) If you are using WebTV or still have trouble getting there, one of these links will work...we just save them as a last resort in case all other links don't work: http://63.79.14.90/cgi-bin/irc.cgi http://cobra-ip1.vipershells.com/cgi-bin/irc.cgi http://stopover.ky.us.starlink-irc.org/cgi-bin/irc.cgi (This one will have the fastest connection) Type in a nickname where it says"nickname"i Where is says, "channel", type in #woodcarverchat (don't forget the #). ******* If you are using an mIRC chat program: 1. Log onto your ISP. 2. Open mIRC. You should see a box "mIRC Options". If you don't then click on View then on "Options" Fill in the information there...you do NOT have to put in your real name or email address. For security purposes, make them up. Do put in the nickname you want and an alternative. 4. Click on the button with the sunburst icon, just to the right of the button that says, "Connect to Server". Where it says "IRC Network", scroll down until you see "Starlink-IRC" and highlight that so it shows in the window. There is also a Starlink network, so make sure that the one you select has the "IRC" after it. Now click on the arrow next to the IRC server window. That will list a number of Starlink-IRC servers....select one of them. The Starlink-IRC random server will automatically pick one of the servers for you, so you can use that one. With one of the Starlink-IRC servers in the window, click on "Connect to Server" If the Starlink Random Server is not in your mirc program you can add it: Click the "add" button. Where it says "Description" type "Starlink Random Server" Where it says "IRC Server" type IRC.STARLINK-IRC.ORG Port should be 6664,6665,6666,6667,6668,6669 (all of those with no spaces between them) and "Group" is Starlink-IRC 5. Once connected, you'll see lots of scrolling text. When that stops, type /join #Woodcarverchat in the window at the bottom and hit your "enter" key. (you need the / and #, and Woodcarverchat must be spelled exactly right) I have put these instructions on a web page with direct links at http://artwebmaine.com/woodcarverchat.html You may want to bookmark it. ******* See you there! E-mail me off the list for additional information and instructions. Marcia Berkall whitwood at fairpoint.net See Marcia's wood carvings at: Whittlins 'n Wood Web Page Blog ***** ArtWeb Maine--Affordable Web Page Design ***** Become a Facebook Fan of Whittlins 'n Wood -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From iowawoodcarver at gmail.com Sun Aug 23 20:40:21 2009 From: iowawoodcarver at gmail.com (Corey Hallagan) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:40:21 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] A Sea Captain Message-ID: <49d3fd9d0908231740s7dcc01acjfc9d9a1f5c3cf423@mail.gmail.com> Hello all. Been awhile since I have posted much. Been busy with remodels and such. This is my first full figure in a while. It's Pete LeClaire's Seaman Kallop, that I found in the Woodcarver Online Ezine. My version of it anyway. It's about 2 3/4 wide and 7 inches tall. Baswood of course and finished with acrylics, oil and satin lacquer. Anyway, you can view it here: http://iowacarver.tripod.com/id5.html Thanks as always for looking! -- Corey Iowa Carver Visit My Website At: http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ http://picasaweb.google.com/IowaWoodCarver Twitter: Challagan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pinocchiocarver at aol.com Sun Aug 23 20:50:05 2009 From: pinocchiocarver at aol.com (pinocchiocarver at aol.com) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 20:50:05 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] A Sea Captain In-Reply-To: <49d3fd9d0908231740s7dcc01acjfc9d9a1f5c3cf423@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d3fd9d0908231740s7dcc01acjfc9d9a1f5c3cf423@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8CBF26BF4B2CA84-C08-1E194@webmail-d042.sysops.aol.com> awsome job again, Cory. thanks for sharing. Take care and carve on. Mike G. -----Original Message----- From: Corey Hallagan To: Woodcarvers Sent: Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:40 pm Subject: [Woodcarver] A Sea Captain Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. Hello all. Been awhile since I have posted much. Been busy with remodels and such. This is my first full figure in a while. It's Pete LeClaire's Seaman Kallop, that I found in the Woodcarver Online Ezine.? My version of it anyway.? It's about 2 3/4 wide and 7 inches tall. Baswood of course and finished with acrylics, oil and satin lacquer. Anyway, you can view it here: http://iowacarver.tripod.com/id5.html Thanks as always for looking! -- Corey Iowa Carver Visit My Website At: http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ http://picasaweb.google.com/IowaWoodCarver Twitter: Challagan _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tginest at yahoo.com Sun Aug 23 21:23:20 2009 From: tginest at yahoo.com (Trudy Ginest) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 18:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] W3E Carving Received! In-Reply-To: <49d3fd9d0908221648h4d67a00bqa91f8ab57abf7a04@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <563229.59295.qm@web50909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Yesterday I received two great ornaments carved by Tim? Connolly.? One was a stylized horse and the other was a Santa.? Thank you very much Tim.? They are now in my growing collection of wood carvings and will have an honored place on our family Christmas tree. ? Thank You Matt for all your hard work and time for doing the exchanges. Trudy ? Trudy Ginest ?http://www.picturetrail.com/tginest ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From celtcarver at comcast.net Sun Aug 23 23:34:48 2009 From: celtcarver at comcast.net (Matt Kelley) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 23:34:48 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Part II July/Aug WOM now available Message-ID: <4A93966F-F1E4-4FFF-8E5D-6FDF3C52DE01@comcast.net> Friends in Carving - Part II of the July/August issue of Woodcarver Online Magazine is now available at http://carverscompanion.com. Once there click on the WOM logo. Included in this issue: Part II introduces the project of the Carvers' Companion - the Virtual Carving Studio project. The purpose of the VCS will be to tap the carving collective to design and virtually equip a studio or shop, complete with functional space plans and suggested lists of tools and equipment. This will provide a freely available resource for any carver to utilize in the future. Fore more information visit the current issue of WOM - look for the Virtual Carving Studio link about half way down the Index list. Let the fun begin! Matt *********************************************** Matt Kelley: Woodcarver, E-zine Editor, W3E Coordinator Woodcarver Online Magazine, W3Exchange Programs, Carver Resource Files at: http://carverscompanion.com Carving Shirts & Gear at: http://carverscompanion.com/cclogostuff/logostuff.html CelticCarver WoodWorks: http://celtcarver.com From womeditor at comcast.net Sun Aug 23 23:50:01 2009 From: womeditor at comcast.net (Matt Kelley) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 23:50:01 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Virtual Carving Studio First Session . . . Message-ID: <22E98E2B-5B39-4BD6-917D-CE0A9FB85B27@comcast.net> Greeting Friends in Carving - The first brain storming session for the Virtual Carving Studio is now officially under way. To read more about the VCS, visit the current issue of Woodcarver Online Magazine at carverscompanion.com, Please do take the time to read all about the VCS project, then visit the VCS web page to submit your suggestions or come on back ere to post 'em on the Woodcarver List. Let the fun begin! Matt *********************************************** Matt Kelley: Woodcarver, E-zine Editor, W3E Coordinator Woodcarver Online Magazine, W3Exchange Programs, Carver Resource Files at: http://carverscompanion.com Carving Shirts & Gear at: http://carverscompanion.com/cclogostuff/logostuff.html CelticCarver WoodWorks: http://celtcarver.com From iowawoodcarver at gmail.com Mon Aug 24 00:23:04 2009 From: iowawoodcarver at gmail.com (Corey Hallagan) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 23:23:04 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] A Sea Captain In-Reply-To: <8CBF26BF4B2CA84-C08-1E194@webmail-d042.sysops.aol.com> References: <49d3fd9d0908231740s7dcc01acjfc9d9a1f5c3cf423@mail.gmail.com> <8CBF26BF4B2CA84-C08-1E194@webmail-d042.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <49d3fd9d0908232123m66edee47g3fa93399d8706144@mail.gmail.com> Thanks Mike for your kind words! Corey On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 7:50 PM, wrote: > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit > carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. > > > > awsome job again, Cory. thanks for sharing. Take care and carve on. > > Mike G. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Corey Hallagan > To: Woodcarvers > Sent: Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:40 pm > Subject: [Woodcarver] A Sea Captain > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html > to donate. > > > > Hello all. Been awhile since I have posted much. Been busy with remodels > and such. This is my first full figure in a while. It's Pete LeClaire's > Seaman Kallop, that I found in > the Woodcarver Online Ezine. My version of it anyway. It's about 2 3/4 > wide and 7 inches tall. Baswood of course and finished with acrylics, oil > and satin lacquer. > Anyway, you can view it here: http://iowacarver.tripod.com/id5.html > Thanks as always for looking! > > -- > Corey > Iowa Carver > > Visit My Website At: > http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ > > http://picasaweb.google.com/IowaWoodCarver > > Twitter: Challagan > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing listWoodcarver at carverscompanion.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > -- Corey Iowa Carver Visit My Website At: http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ http://picasaweb.google.com/IowaWoodCarver Twitter: Challagan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Take care and carve on. Mike G. -----Original Message----- From: Corey Hallagan < iowawoodcarver at gmail.com > To: Woodcarvers < Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > Sent: Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:40 pm Subject: [Woodcarver] A Sea Captain Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. Hello all. Been awhile since I have posted much. Been busy with remodels and such. This is my first full figure in a while. It's Pete LeClaire's Seaman Kallop, that I found in the Woodcarver Online Ezine.? My version of it anyway.? It's about 2 3/4 wide and 7 inches tall. Baswood of course and finished with acrylics, oil and satin lacquer. Anyway, you can view it here: http://iowacarver.tripod.com/id5.html Thanks as always for looking! -- Corey Iowa Carver Visit My Website At: http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ http://picasaweb.google.com/IowaWoodCarver Twitter: Challagan _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -- Corey Iowa Carver Visit My Website At: http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ http://picasaweb.google.com/IowaWoodCarver Twitter: Challagan _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Corey On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 2:44 AM, wrote: > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit > carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. > > > > Very nice job, I like the coloring it really makes him pop! > > Karen (spit) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Corey Hallagan > To: Woodcarvers > Sent: Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:40 pm > Subject: [Woodcarver] A Sea Captain > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html >> to donate. >> >> >> >> Hello all. Been awhile since I have posted much. Been busy with remodels >> and such. This is my first full figure in a while. It's Pete LeClaire's >> Seaman Kallop, that I found in >> the Woodcarver Online Ezine. My version of it anyway. It's about 2 3/4 >> wide and 7 inches tall. Baswood of course and finished with acrylics, oil >> and satin lacquer. >> Anyway, you can view it here: http://iowacarver.tripod.com/id5.html >> Thanks as always for looking! >> >> -- >> Corey >> Iowa Carver >> >> Visit My Website At: >> http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ >> >> http://picasaweb.google.com/IowaWoodCarver >> >> Twitter: Challagan >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Woodcarver mailing listWoodcarver at carverscompanion.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Woodcarver mailing list >> Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver >> > > > > -- > Corey > Iowa Carver > > Visit My Website At: > http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ > > http://picasaweb.google.com/IowaWoodCarver > > Twitter: Challagan > > _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > -- Corey Iowa Carver Visit My Website At: http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ http://picasaweb.google.com/IowaWoodCarver Twitter: Challagan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It should be cool when done. I think i might even get this one done too! Merrilee From: m.bloomquist at woodendreamz.com To: woodcarver at six.pairlist.net Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 06:54:19 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Helloooo... Helloooo? ?anyone out there? Hopefully you?re busy carving, so whatchya workin? on? Keep on Carvin' -Mike B.-> Wooden Dreams Woodcarving http://www.woodendreamz.com _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_online:082009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From merrihat at hotmail.com Mon Aug 24 17:18:19 2009 From: merrihat at hotmail.com (Merrilee Johnson) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:18:19 +0000 Subject: [Woodcarver] Virtual Carving Studio First Session . . . In-Reply-To: <22E98E2B-5B39-4BD6-917D-CE0A9FB85B27@comcast.net> References: <22E98E2B-5B39-4BD6-917D-CE0A9FB85B27@comcast.net> Message-ID: What a great idea, Mike! I could have used this last week when we were putting my basement together :) I still need a few things and perhaps I shall find the answers here! Merrilee ~~~~~~~~~~~~>> > The first brain storming session for the Virtual Carving Studio is now > officially under way. To read more about the VCS, visit the current > issue of Woodcarver Online Magazine at carverscompanion.com, Please > do take the time to read all about the VCS project, then visit the VCS > web page to submit your suggestions or come on back ere to post 'em on > the Woodcarver List. > > Let the fun begin! > > Matt > _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you?re up to on Facebook. http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mdelke at chartermi.net Mon Aug 24 18:22:40 2009 From: mdelke at chartermi.net (mike) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 18:22:40 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] W3E Exchange Message-ID: <2EE302452B0B4E32BEBDB14B8125BBF2@mike4nopbd8sep> Was plesently surprised by a Gnome in the mail today from Jim Brumm. A lovely addition to my exchange collection. It has assumed a place of honor in the display case THANKS JIM. Thanks Matt for all the effort you put into this to make it work Mike (yooper) Delke -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From womeditor at comcast.net Mon Aug 24 22:09:33 2009 From: womeditor at comcast.net (womeditor at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 02:09:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Woodcarver] Virtual Carving Studio Update In-Reply-To: <196479522.3617071251165925988.JavaMail.root@sz0038a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <475593126.3618881251166173234.JavaMail.root@sz0038a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Friends in Carving - Just a quick update of the functional areas that have been suggested for the VCS project. This is a good start, but there's lots more that should be included. If you havn't submitted your ideas yet, please do soon! Matt In no particular order, this is what has been submitted so far - some areas overlap a bit and some may be combined as we move forward. There are some great ideas here - many of which were never on my radar. (But then again - that's why this is a group project!) Material Storage Large Tool area Sink/water source Computer station Reference Material Steam Box/Stick straightening Store front sales Design area Clay Modeling Media storage Wood processing (cutting, planing, glue-up, etc) mallet tool carving Small hand tool carving Pyrography Power carving Teaching studio Guest housing Finishing (staining, painting, other finishes, gold leaf) Office Writing area Photography Bulk Wood Storage Machine/Blacksmith shop Tool Sharpening (power and hand) Display area Rest Rooms First Aid Station Food/Beverage service Flooring Overhead Lighting -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Helloooo? > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit > carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ...anyone out there? > > Hopefully you're busy carving, so whatchya workin' on? > > Keep on Carvin' > -Mike B.-> > Wooden Dreams Woodcarving > http://www.woodendreamz.com > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From khcarver at earthlink.net Tue Aug 25 10:57:20 2009 From: khcarver at earthlink.net (Karen Henderson) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:57:20 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Helloooo... Helloooo? In-Reply-To: References: <7D61450D86B7449EA40151C71883B72B@mikestoy> Message-ID: <2BBA4A05-65E4-4708-8629-52523E34F5DB@earthlink.net> WOW!! That sound like a GREAT trip! Maybe even better than carving. Enjoy. I'm busy on whimsey houses in bark - gearing up for a good inventory for fall shows. List has been really quiet! Karen On Aug 25, 2009, at 12:08 AM, Joe Dillett wrote: > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit > carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. > > > Not carving at the moment. In Fairbanks Alaska at the Bear Resort > getting ready for bed sipping a Captain and Coke after a wonderful > Salmon Bake dinner. I'll Pan for gold tomorrow and take a ride on a > paddle wheel steamer. Saw some nice totems today. > > Joe Dillett > The Carving Shop > 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 > Somonauk, Il. 60552 > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "m.bloomquist" > > To: "[Woodcarver]" > Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 5:54 AM > Subject: [Woodcarver] Helloooo... Helloooo? > > >> Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit >> carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. >> >> >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > > >> ...anyone out there? >> >> Hopefully you're busy carving, so whatchya workin' on? >> >> Keep on Carvin' >> -Mike B.-> >> Wooden Dreams Woodcarving >> http://www.woodendreamz.com >> >> >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------- > > >> _______________________________________________ >> Woodcarver mailing list >> Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From iowawoodcarver at gmail.com Tue Aug 25 11:20:23 2009 From: iowawoodcarver at gmail.com (Corey Hallagan) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:20:23 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Helloooo... Helloooo? In-Reply-To: <7D61450D86B7449EA40151C71883B72B@mikestoy> References: <7D61450D86B7449EA40151C71883B72B@mikestoy> Message-ID: <49d3fd9d0908250820r5a307d61qb2120028986e0adb@mail.gmail.com> Hi Mike, just busy travelling for the job and trying to get ready for my first woodcarving show at the end of October. The Mid America Woodcarvers Assoc. annual show in Omaha. I hope to enter a few of my carvings in the show. Corey On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 5:54 AM, m.bloomquist wrote: > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit > carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. > > > > ...anyone out there? > > Hopefully you're busy carving, so whatchya workin' on? > > Keep on Carvin' > -Mike B.-> > Wooden Dreams Woodcarving > http://www.woodendreamz.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > -- Corey Iowa Carver Visit My Website At: http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ http://picasaweb.google.com/IowaWoodCarver Twitter: Challagan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From psherman at suite224.net Tue Aug 25 12:25:53 2009 From: psherman at suite224.net (P Sherman) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:25:53 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Helloooo... Helloooo? References: <7D61450D86B7449EA40151C71883B72B@mikestoy> <2BBA4A05-65E4-4708-8629-52523E34F5DB@earthlink.net> Message-ID: karen. i have been very quiet. my husband is in the hospital agian. they put another steint in his heart. i am staying in there with him and i am very tired. hope you all enjoy the nice weather Pat psherman at suite224.net ************************************************* IN GOD WE TRUST A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed." --Second Amendment, United States Constitution The original point and click interface was a Smith &wesson ************************************************* web pages: http://web.mac.com/dcvelbar/Site/For_Sale_page_2.html PHOTO ALBUMS: http://community.webshots.com/album/560407973VgrFfU http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/patshwigar/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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References: <7D61450D86B7449EA40151C71883B72B@mikestoy> Message-ID: <5944B8D7A68D45F8BB8162761FA64BD2@patstoy> hey mike. gene is back inthe hospital. say a prayer for him. and thanks Pat psherman at suite224.net ************************************************* IN GOD WE TRUST A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed." --Second Amendment, United States Constitution The original point and click interface was a Smith &wesson ************************************************* web pages: http://web.mac.com/dcvelbar/Site/For_Sale_page_2.html PHOTO ALBUMS: http://community.webshots.com/album/560407973VgrFfU http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/patshwigar/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ karen. i have been very quiet. my husband is in the hospital agian. they put another steint in his heart. i am staying in there with him and i am very tired. hope you all enjoy the nice weather Pat psherman at suite224.net ************************************************* IN GOD WE TRUST A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed." --Second Amendment, United States Constitution The original point and click interface was a Smith &wesson ************************************************* web pages: http://web.mac.com/dcvelbar/Site/For_Sale_page_2.html PHOTO ALBUMS: http://community.webshots.com/album/560407973VgrFfU http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/patshwigar/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. 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URL: From fran.hill72712 at gmail.com Tue Aug 25 13:55:53 2009 From: fran.hill72712 at gmail.com (Fran Hill) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:55:53 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Helloooo... Helloooo? In-Reply-To: References: <7D61450D86B7449EA40151C71883B72B@mikestoy> Message-ID: <7A1DD35A5E1E4D6787E1BCE64270131E@Notebook> Ooooh, I wish I was there.....Don't you wish I was there? That sounds absolutely delicious! Arkansas Fran -----Original Message----- From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Joe Dillett Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:08 AM To: [Woodcarver] Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Helloooo... Helloooo? Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. Not carving at the moment. In Fairbanks Alaska at the Bear Resort getting ready for bed sipping a Captain and Coke after a wonderful Salmon Bake dinner. I'll Pan for gold tomorrow and take a ride on a paddle wheel steamer. Saw some nice totems today. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, Il. 60552 ----- Original Message ----- From: "m.bloomquist" To: "[Woodcarver]" Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 5:54 AM Subject: [Woodcarver] Helloooo... Helloooo? > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit > carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > ...anyone out there? > > Hopefully you're busy carving, so whatchya workin' on? > > Keep on Carvin' > -Mike B.-> > Wooden Dreams Woodcarving > http://www.woodendreamz.com > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From m.bloomquist at woodendreamz.com Tue Aug 25 21:30:08 2009 From: m.bloomquist at woodendreamz.com (m.bloomquist) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:30:08 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Helloooo... Helloooo? In-Reply-To: <5944B8D7A68D45F8BB8162761FA64BD2@patstoy> Message-ID: Never stopped Pat. Hang in there Kiddo. Keep on Carvin' -Mike B.-> -----Original Message----- From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of P Sherman Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 12:27 PM To: [Woodcarver] Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Helloooo... Helloooo? hey mike. gene is back inthe hospital. say a prayer for him. and thanks Pat psherman at suite224.net ************************************************* IN GOD WE TRUST A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed." --Second Amendment, United States Constitution The original point and click interface was a Smith &wesson ************************************************* web pages: http://web.mac.com/dcvelbar/Site/For_Sale_page_2.html PHOTO ALBUMS: http://community.webshots.com/album/560407973VgrFfU http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/patshwigar/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From womeditor at comcast.net Tue Aug 25 21:53:59 2009 From: womeditor at comcast.net (Matt Kelley) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:53:59 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Ron Harper info? Message-ID: <6FFFDE65-2EC0-44D0-853E-6B1A8F690C37@comcast.net> Good Evening Carvers - Does anyone have a current email address for Ron Harper, owner of the Pig Decoy Carving Association? His web site is no long available and the email address that I have bounces. Any news would be appreciated. Tx, Matt *********************************************** Matt Kelley: Woodcarver, E-zine Editor, W3E Coordinator Woodcarver Online Magazine, W3Exchange Programs, Carver Resource Files at: http://carverscompanion.com Carving Shirts & Gear at: http://carverscompanion.com/cclogostuff/logostuff.html CelticCarver WoodWorks: http://celtcarver.com From merrihat at hotmail.com Tue Aug 25 22:16:42 2009 From: merrihat at hotmail.com (Merrilee Johnson) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 02:16:42 +0000 Subject: [Woodcarver] Helloooo... Helloooo? In-Reply-To: References: <7D61450D86B7449EA40151C71883B72B@mikestoy> Message-ID: Lucky you, Joe! I've gone back to school to get ready for the new year! Teaching technology this year! What a change it will be. I've been working on a beautiful tool holder my friend Bette gave me. It will hold a hammer, pair of plyer, and 4 screwdrivers. I have to carve a cluster of daisies on the top and the year on it so its pretty functional. Can't wait! Then I will finish the Norwegian Ale Bowl I started at the Indiana Round up camp. I think I'd rather be panning for gold! Merrilee ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > From: jdillett at thecarvingshop.net > To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 00:08:01 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Helloooo... Helloooo? > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. > > > Not carving at the moment. In Fairbanks Alaska at the Bear Resort getting > ready for bed sipping a Captain and Coke after a wonderful Salmon Bake > dinner. I'll Pan for gold tomorrow and take a ride on a paddle wheel > steamer. Saw some nice totems today. _________________________________________________________________ Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackToSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marty at mychipcarving.com Tue Aug 25 22:40:50 2009 From: marty at mychipcarving.com (My Chip Carving) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:40:50 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Who's your favorite carving teacher? Message-ID: With Matt's permission, I'm wondering... "For those of you that have taken various two to five-day seminars, who are your favorite teachers for longer format classes?" Here's why I'm asking this question. My wife and I just had our Grand Opening for Red Barn Retreats. (www.RedBarnRetreats.com) I operate www.MyChipCarving.com and teach chip carving retreats while my wife focuses on quilting, scrapbooking, sewing, and other craft retreats. I am considering expanding the scope of Red Barn Retreats by inviting expert woodcarvers who would teach various styles of woodcarving. I've got chip carving covered but expanding into other areas of woodcarving would allow more people to enjoy the beauty and comfort of Red Barn Retreats while learning more about carving. When you respond please tell: Teacher's full name: Teacher contact info if you have it: Carving class(es) you attended: Briefly, why he/she is your favorite teacher: Thank you! Make some chips, Marty www.MyChipCarving.com 866-444-6996 Marty at MyChipCarving.com If you are not a subscriber yet to the free lessons, patterns, and giveaways offered by My Chip Carving, you are invited to subscribe at: http://www.mychipcarving.com/Chip_Carving/Pages/chip_carving_free_eletter.htm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kpollak at comcast.net Wed Aug 26 11:58:55 2009 From: kpollak at comcast.net (kpollak at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:58:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Woodcarver] Helloooo... Helloooo? In-Reply-To: <5944B8D7A68D45F8BB8162761FA64BD2@patstoy> Message-ID: <1995941109.3961591251302335922.JavaMail.root@sz0096a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Howdy Pat, I am sorry to hear that Gene is back in hospital but thats the place to be when you are in need. Will keep many good thoughts for you and him, and hoping he is out and back home very soon. I know staying at hospital can wear a person down so remember to take care of yourself,too. Karen(Spit) ----- Original Message ----- From: "P Sherman" To: "[Woodcarver]" Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:26:48 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Helloooo... Helloooo? Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. hey mike. gene is back inthe hospital. say a prayer for him. and thanks Pat psherman at suite224.net ************************************************* IN GOD WE TRUST A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed." --Second Amendment, United States Constitution The original point and click interface was a Smith &wesson ************************************************* ?? web pages: http://web.mac.com/dcvelbar/Site/For_Sale_page_2.html ??? PHOTO ALBUMS: http://community.webshots.com/album/560407973VgrFfU http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/patshwigar/ ? ? _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From iowawoodcarver at gmail.com Wed Aug 26 12:24:55 2009 From: iowawoodcarver at gmail.com (Corey Hallagan) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:24:55 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Helloooo... Helloooo? In-Reply-To: <1995941109.3961591251302335922.JavaMail.root@sz0096a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <5944B8D7A68D45F8BB8162761FA64BD2@patstoy> <1995941109.3961591251302335922.JavaMail.root@sz0096a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <49d3fd9d0908260924k574f0f2al4fad5b275d16202d@mail.gmail.com> Sorry to hear about your husband Pat. Will keep you and him in our prayers for sure. Take care, Corey > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "P Sherman" > To: "[Woodcarver]" > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:26:48 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Helloooo... Helloooo? > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit > carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. > hey mike. gene is back inthe hospital. say a prayer for him. and thanks > > > > Pat > psherman at suite224.net > ************************************************* > IN GOD WE TRUST > > A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, > the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed." > --Second Amendment, United States Constitution > > > The original point and click interface was a Smith &wesson > ************************************************* > web pages: > http://web.mac.com/dcvelbar/Site/For_Sale_page_2.html > PHOTO ALBUMS: > http://community.webshots.com/album/560407973VgrFfU > http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/patshwigar/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > -- Corey Iowa Carver Visit My Website At: http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ http://picasaweb.google.com/IowaWoodCarver Twitter: Challagan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whitwood at fairpoint.net Wed Aug 26 18:04:23 2009 From: whitwood at fairpoint.net (Marcia Berkall) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 18:04:23 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Wednesday Woodcarver Chat Message-ID: <20090826220425.5A3D61C00AA@smtp0.av-mx.com> Join in on the fun!!! For informative and fun REAL TIME conversations with a number of the carvers on "The List", come to the Woodcarver chats. We don't always talk about carving, but if anyone has a question or comment, we can get serious in a hurry. Get to know the people behind the names. And bring you carving questions with you!!! We meet on Wednesday nights at 9:30 PM Eastern and on Sundays at 4:30 PM Eastern. If you are NOT using an IRC chat program, I think you will like these simplified instructions!!! Just click on one of the links below...either will take you directly to #Woodcarverchat http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_williamslake.html?chan=#Woodcarverchat http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_stopover.html?chan=#woodcarverchat This may take a LONG time to load!!!!!!! Don't give up. When it finally does load, you will be asked to type in a nickname.....then click connect, and wait a little bit longer. The chat screen will open. Type something in the narrow horizontal space just below the chat screen and hit you enter key. Nothing to it! :) If you are using WebTV or still have trouble getting there, one of these links will work...we just save them as a last resort in case all other links don't work: http://63.79.14.90/cgi-bin/irc.cgi http://cobra-ip1.vipershells.com/cgi-bin/irc.cgi http://stopover.ky.us.starlink-irc.org/cgi-bin/irc.cgi (This one will have the fastest connection) Type in a nickname where it says"nickname"i Where is says, "channel", type in #woodcarverchat (don't forget the #). ******* If you are using an mIRC chat program: 1. Log onto your ISP. 2. Open mIRC. You should see a box "mIRC Options". If you don't then click on View then on "Options" Fill in the information there...you do NOT have to put in your real name or email address. For security purposes, make them up. Do put in the nickname you want and an alternative. 4. Click on the button with the sunburst icon, just to the right of the button that says, "Connect to Server". Where it says "IRC Network", scroll down until you see "Starlink-IRC" and highlight that so it shows in the window. There is also a Starlink network, so make sure that the one you select has the "IRC" after it. Now click on the arrow next to the IRC server window. That will list a number of Starlink-IRC servers....select one of them. The Starlink-IRC random server will automatically pick one of the servers for you, so you can use that one. With one of the Starlink-IRC servers in the window, click on "Connect to Server" If the Starlink Random Server is not in your mirc program you can add it: Click the "add" button. Where it says "Description" type "Starlink Random Server" Where it says "IRC Server" type IRC.STARLINK-IRC.ORG Port should be 6664,6665,6666,6667,6668,6669 (all of those with no spaces between them) and "Group" is Starlink-IRC 5. Once connected, you'll see lots of scrolling text. When that stops, type /join #Woodcarverchat in the window at the bottom and hit your "enter" key. (you need the / and #, and Woodcarverchat must be spelled exactly right) I have put these instructions on a web page with direct links at http://artwebmaine.com/woodcarverchat.html You may want to bookmark it. ******* See you there! E-mail me off the list for additional information and instructions. Marcia Berkall whitwood at fairpoint.net See Marcia's wood carvings at: Whittlins 'n Wood Web Page Blog ***** ArtWeb Maine--Affordable Web Page Design ***** Become a Facebook Fan of Whittlins 'n Wood -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.bloomquist at woodendreamz.com Wed Aug 26 21:40:02 2009 From: m.bloomquist at woodendreamz.com (m.bloomquist) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:40:02 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Helloooo... Helloooo? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <56FE7BF4D11A41189EA3F114A015D9DC@mikestoy> Joe, OK, NOW I'm sorry I asked! Not really. Going to share some pictures? Keep on Carvin' -Mike B.-> -----Original Message----- From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Joe Dillett Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 1:08 AM To: [Woodcarver] Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Helloooo... Helloooo? Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. Not carving at the moment. In Fairbanks Alaska at the Bear Resort getting ready for bed sipping a Captain and Coke after a wonderful Salmon Bake dinner. I'll Pan for gold tomorrow and take a ride on a paddle wheel steamer. Saw some nice totems today. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, Il. 60552 ----- Original Message ----- From: "m.bloomquist" To: "[Woodcarver]" Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 5:54 AM Subject: [Woodcarver] Helloooo... Helloooo? > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit > carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > ...anyone out there? > > Hopefully you're busy carving, so whatchya workin' on? > > Keep on Carvin' > -Mike B.-> > Wooden Dreams Woodcarving > http://www.woodendreamz.com > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From marty at mychipcarving.com Wed Aug 26 22:30:02 2009 From: marty at mychipcarving.com (My Chip Carving) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:30:02 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Who's your favorite carving teacher? References: Message-ID: I forgot to mention that if you'd prefer to reply off list to me, that's fine. Marty at MyChipCarving.com ----- Original Message ----- From: My Chip Carving To: Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:40 PM Subject: [Woodcarver] Who's your favorite carving teacher? Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ With Matt's permission, I'm wondering... "For those of you that have taken various two to five-day seminars, who are your favorite teachers for longer format classes?" Here's why I'm asking this question. My wife and I just had our Grand Opening for Red Barn Retreats. (www.RedBarnRetreats.com) I operate www.MyChipCarving.com and teach chip carving retreats while my wife focuses on quilting, scrapbooking, sewing, and other craft retreats. I am considering expanding the scope of Red Barn Retreats by inviting expert woodcarvers who would teach various styles of woodcarving. I've got chip carving covered but expanding into other areas of woodcarving would allow more people to enjoy the beauty and comfort of Red Barn Retreats while learning more about carving. When you respond please tell: Teacher's full name: Teacher contact info if you have it: Carving class(es) you attended: Briefly, why he/she is your favorite teacher: Thank you! Make some chips, Marty www.MyChipCarving.com 866-444-6996 Marty at MyChipCarving.com If you are not a subscriber yet to the free lessons, patterns, and giveaways offered by My Chip Carving, you are invited to subscribe at: http://www.mychipcarving.com/Chip_Carving/Pages/chip_carving_free_eletter.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bremmers at midwestinfo.com Wed Aug 26 22:49:41 2009 From: bremmers at midwestinfo.com (Gene and Darlene Bremmer) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:49:41 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Who's your favorite carving teacher? References: Message-ID: <0A5B032BB2544829ADB1CB7F2612667D@bremmers> ----- Original Message ----- From: My Chip Carving To: Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:40 PM Subject: [Woodcarver] Who's your favorite carving teacher? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- With Matt's permission, I'm wondering... "For those of you that have taken various two to five-day seminars, who are your favorite teachers for longer format classes?" Here's why I'm asking this question. My wife and I just had our Grand Opening for Red Barn Retreats. (www.RedBarnRetreats.com) I operate www.MyChipCarving.com and teach chip carving retreats while my wife focuses on quilting, scrapbooking, sewing, and other craft retreats. I am considering expanding the scope of Red Barn Retreats by inviting expert woodcarvers who would teach various styles of woodcarving. I've got chip carving covered but expanding into other areas of woodcarving would allow more people to enjoy the beauty and comfort of Red Barn Retreats while learning more about carving. When you respond please tell: Teacher's full name: Chris White Teacher contact info if you have it: www.jchristopherwhite.com Carving class(es) you attended: 2006 sculpture carving, flow and movement Briefly, why he/she is your favorite teacher: For me Chris White is a Christian and lives his life as such. He is an individual who is a pleasure to be sharing woodcarving with. As for the hands on teaching part, he has an insight into old chunks of wood that just totally amazes me. He sees shapes, birds, fish and animals in wood that I can only hope I can some day also do to a certain extent. His patience is so outstanding and he never makes you feel like you are intruding on his time or another students time. 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References: <7D61450D86B7449EA40151C71883B72B@mikestoy><2BBA4A05-65E4-4708-8629-52523E34F5DB@earthlink.net> <1A0031FED3A9456D925E67186119CBFA@bremmers> Message-ID: <685A6FE9CCBF467B8E5989088F170318@patstoy> thanks gene and darlene. the prayers worked. gene is doing well and is homme agin. thank god Pat psherman at suite224.net ************************************************* IN GOD WE TRUST A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed." --Second Amendment, United States Constitution The original point and click interface was a Smith &wesson ************************************************* web pages: http://web.mac.com/dcvelbar/Site/For_Sale_page_2.html PHOTO ALBUMS: http://community.webshots.com/album/560407973VgrFfU http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/patshwigar/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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References: <7D61450D86B7449EA40151C71883B72B@mikestoy><5944B8D7A68D45F8BB8162761FA64BD2@patstoy> Message-ID: <22CE69D48C2641DFB98123914419370E@patstoy> thanks fran. he is home today. and feels good. now i hope it lasts. the congestive heart failure is what is causing hte problems. thaks for the prayers everyone Pat psherman at suite224.net ************************************************* IN GOD WE TRUST A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed." --Second Amendment, United States Constitution The original point and click interface was a Smith &wesson ************************************************* web pages: http://web.mac.com/dcvelbar/Site/For_Sale_page_2.html PHOTO ALBUMS: http://community.webshots.com/album/560407973VgrFfU http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/patshwigar/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Pat psherman at suite224.net ************************************************* IN GOD WE TRUST A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed." --Second Amendment, United States Constitution The original point and click interface was a Smith &wesson ************************************************* web pages: http://web.mac.com/dcvelbar/Site/For_Sale_page_2.html PHOTO ALBUMS: http://community.webshots.com/album/560407973VgrFfU http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/patshwigar/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From psherman at suite224.net Thu Aug 27 20:49:59 2009 From: psherman at suite224.net (P Sherman) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:49:59 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Helloooo... Helloooo? References: <5944B8D7A68D45F8BB8162761FA64BD2@patstoy><1995941109.3961591251302335922.JavaMail.root@sz0096a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <49d3fd9d0908260924k574f0f2al4fad5b275d16202d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: tx corey. much appreated Pat psherman at suite224.net ************************************************* IN GOD WE TRUST A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed." --Second Amendment, United States Constitution The original point and click interface was a Smith &wesson ************************************************* web pages: http://web.mac.com/dcvelbar/Site/For_Sale_page_2.html PHOTO ALBUMS: http://community.webshots.com/album/560407973VgrFfU http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/patshwigar/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Pat psherman at suite224.net ************************************************* IN GOD WE TRUST A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed." --Second Amendment, United States Constitution The original point and click interface was a Smith &wesson ************************************************* web pages: http://web.mac.com/dcvelbar/Site/For_Sale_page_2.html PHOTO ALBUMS: http://community.webshots.com/album/560407973VgrFfU http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/patshwigar/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kpollak at comcast.net Thu Aug 27 21:21:22 2009 From: kpollak at comcast.net (kpollak at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 01:21:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Woodcarver] Helloooo... Helloooo? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1217198791.4638961251422482044.JavaMail.root@sz0096a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Howdy Pat, Am always glad to hear good news, glad your both home and recouping. Will still keep those good thoughts going your way. That is so cool of you to give the carvings to the staff, they do work hard and I am sure they really appreciated it greatly. So keep getting healthy. Karen(spit) ----- Original Message ----- From: "P Sherman" To: "[Woodcarver]" Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:48:33 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Helloooo... Helloooo? Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. thanks karen. yes hospitals are a pain. the reliner i slept in was very hard. lol. but gene is home and is felling pretty good. so that is good news. thanks so much for the prayers. i carved a mouse and a golf ball while sitting there. gave the golf ball to the dr. and the mouse to the nursing staff. they loved them. Pat psherman at suite224.net ************************************************* IN GOD WE TRUST A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed." --Second Amendment, United States Constitution The original point and click interface was a Smith &wesson ************************************************* ?? web pages: http://web.mac.com/dcvelbar/Site/For_Sale_page_2.html ??? 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References: <1217198791.4638961251422482044.JavaMail.root@sz0096a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: thanks karen. i am looking forward to sleeping in my own bed. . will be nice for a change. hugs Pat psherman at suite224.net ************************************************* IN GOD WE TRUST A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed." --Second Amendment, United States Constitution The original point and click interface was a Smith &wesson ************************************************* web pages: http://web.mac.com/dcvelbar/Site/For_Sale_page_2.html PHOTO ALBUMS: http://community.webshots.com/album/560407973VgrFfU http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/patshwigar/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Kelley) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:24:16 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] diamond willow In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Dave - There are several diamond willow vendors listed in the Carvers' Companion Resource Files, under Wood Vendors, here: http://carverscompanion.com/FileVendors.html Matt *********************************************** Matt Kelley: Woodcarver, E-zine Editor, W3E Coordinator Woodcarver Online Magazine, W3Exchange Programs, Carver Resource Files at: http://carverscompanion.com Carving Shirts & Gear at: http://carverscompanion.com/cclogostuff/logostuff.html CelticCarver WoodWorks: http://celtcarver.com On Aug 28, 2009, at 11:37 AM, David W McHenry wrote: > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit > carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. > > > I am looking for sources of diamond willow for use in making walking > sticks. I purchased a few really nice raw sticks from a man in > northern Minnesota, but he no longer sells. I would appreciate any > contacts that can be provided. > > Dave McHenry, Issaquah, Wash. > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver *********************************************** Matt Kelley: Woodcarver, E-zine Editor, W3E Coordinator Woodcarver Online Magazine, W3Exchange Programs, Carver Resource Files at: http://carverscompanion.com Carving Shirts & Gear at: http://carverscompanion.com/cclogostuff/logostuff.html CelticCarver WoodWorks: http://celtcarver.com From thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com Fri Aug 28 13:34:53 2009 From: thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com (Larry Yudis) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 12:34:53 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] GOW or bust!!! In-Reply-To: <20090828.125350.28308.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <20090828174002.02A17E9D1C@mailwash34.pair.com> Hi Jack, (something you don't want to say in an airport!) It was really nice to finally meet you and your great shorebirds at the Bremen, IN Carvers Campout. I've followed your posts on the lists for years. Looking forward to seeing you again at the GOW the end of September. Safe travels on your way from PA. CU soon. Larry (BIG DOG) Yudis The Woodcraft Shop 2724 State St Bettendorf, IA 52722 800-397-2278 www.thewoodcraftshop.com Carol and Larry Yudis, Show Chairs International Woodcarvers Congress Affiliated Wood Carvers, Ltd. PO Box 104 Bettendorf, IA 52722 563-359-9684 (days) 563-355-3787 (evenings) www.awcltd.org _____ From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of jackcarves at juno.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:54 AM To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Helloooo... Helloooo? Joe, I'm green with envy. See you at the GOW in a few weeks. 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URL: From linehan718 at aol.com Fri Aug 28 15:44:34 2009 From: linehan718 at aol.com (linehan718 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:44:34 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] GOW or bust!!! In-Reply-To: <20090828.150845.21047.0@webmail20.dca.untd.com> References: <20090828.150845.21047.0@webmail20.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <8CBF62F1A457542-21E0-DAEF@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com> Hey Big dog and Jack, my friends are not supposed to meet without me being present and like each other more than they like me. My jealous little soul cannot bear it.? Lol? just kidding.? I envy that the two of you went to GOW.? I just wish I was set up to travel those long distances.? Who knows, maybe one day. -----Original Message----- From: jackcarves at juno.com To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Sent: Fri, Aug 28, 2009 3:08 pm Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] GOW or bust!!! Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. It was grerat meeting you, too, BD.? The time we spent in Indiana talking about carving was very special to me and I hope we get some more time to do so in the future. Carvingjack Miller ____________________________________________________________ Publishing Your Book? Discover How Easy Self-Publishing Is with BookSurge, an Amazon Group. _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com Fri Aug 28 16:20:01 2009 From: thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com (Larry Yudis) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:20:01 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] GOW or bust!!! In-Reply-To: <8CBF62F1A457542-21E0-DAEF@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <20090828202009.5B829E9D43@mailwash34.pair.com> Hey Maura, Just fly into one of the Chi-town airports and we'll even come and pick you up from there. Jack and I met in Indiana about a week ago at the Carvers Campout in Bremen. The GOW is still coming up the end of September ... still time to make plans! :o) Just a hop, skip and a jump southwest of Chicago in Sandwich, IL. It won't be much fun without you, but we'll try. Larry (BIG DOG) Yudis The Woodcraft Shop 2724 State St Bettendorf, IA 52722 800-397-2278 www.thewoodcraftshop.com Carol and Larry Yudis, Show Chairs International Woodcarvers Congress Affiliated Wood Carvers, Ltd. PO Box 104 Bettendorf, IA 52722 563-359-9684 (days) 563-355-3787 (evenings) www.awcltd.org _____ From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of linehan718 at aol.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:45 PM To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] GOW or bust!!! Hey Big dog and Jack, my friends are not supposed to meet without me being present and like each other more than they like me. My jealous little soul cannot bear it. Lol just kidding. I envy that the two of you went to GOW. I just wish I was set up to travel those long distances. Who knows, maybe one day. -----Original Message----- From: jackcarves at juno.com To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Sent: Fri, Aug 28, 2009 3:08 pm Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] GOW or bust!!! Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. It was grerat meeting you, too, BD. The time we spent in Indiana talking about carving was very special to me and I hope we get some more time to do so in the future. Carvingjack Miller ____________________________________________________________ Publishing Your Book? Discover How Easy Self-Publishing Is with BookSurge, an Amazon Group. _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From outdoor111 at verizon.net Sat Aug 29 14:37:32 2009 From: outdoor111 at verizon.net (SANDIE BURGDORF) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:37:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] GOW Message-ID: <981678.75651.qm@web84202.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hey Maura, The GOW is the most fun of any of the carving?get-togethers. OK, OK, I'm just a little prejudiced since it was the site of our wedding. There is an air fare sale going on right now. Go to Cheap Tickets and check it out. There's some lady in Joe's town that does airport pick-ups and returns for a very reasonable rate. We can find a place for you to stay - the couch in the motorhome - or if you beg nicely, a room at Joe and Sharon's, if they haven't all been taken. Bring some friends with you and share a motel room. There's always a way. After all you don't want all your carving friends getting together without you. For everyone else, - the classes are filling - get your choices in by going to the website: camperjohn.com/gow. We still have room for more carvers and lots of room for campers. Sandie? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The first time I met ol' don I was in awe as he was probably the most famous carver I had met until then. could you imagine the ego boost I would get from stories I could tell of sleeping on his couch.? LOL? You are both wonderful people and belong together, hope to see you again sometime soon.? Love Maura Maura www.carvinginnyc.com -----Original Message----- From: SANDIE BURGDORF To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Sent: Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:37 pm Subject: [Woodcarver] GOW Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. Hey Maura, ? The GOW is the most fun of any of the carving?get-togethers. OK, OK, I'm just a little prejudiced since it was the site of our wedding. There is an air fare sale going on right now. Go to Cheap Tickets and check it out. There's some lady in Joe's town that does airport pick-ups and returns for a very reasonable rate. We can find a place for you to stay - the couch in the motorhome - or if you beg nicely, a room at Joe and Sharon's, if they haven't all been taken. Bring some friends with you and share a motel room. There's always a way. After all you don't want all your carving friends getting together without you. ? For everyone else, - the classes are filling - get your choices in by going to the website: camperjohn.com/gow. We still have room for more carvers and lots of room for campers. ? Sandie? _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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OK, OK, I'm just a little prejudiced since it was the site of our wedding. There is an air fare sale going on right now. Go to Cheap Tickets and check it out. There's some lady in Joe's town that does airport pick-ups and returns for a very reasonable rate. We can find a place for you to stay - the couch in the motorhome - or if you beg nicely, a room at Joe and Sharon's, if they haven't all been taken. Bring some friends with you and share a motel room. There's always a way. After all you don't want all your carving friends getting together without you. ? For everyone else, - the classes are filling - get your choices in by going to the website: camperjohn.com/gow. We still have room for more carvers and lots of room for campers. ? Sandie? -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From psherman at suite224.net Sat Aug 29 20:11:24 2009 From: psherman at suite224.net (P Sherman) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 20:11:24 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] GOW References: <13207.14467.qm@web180212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7F1AB878979B4F14BB06CEE9D2ED8B8D@patstoy> ohoh. maura, you might have to share a couch with william earl .lol. sure wish i was able to come tothe gow this year. but the drs. say gene should not travel too far from his doctors. two trips to the hospital this summer with a h eart attack and congestive heart failure mean no trips this summer. darn it. Pat psherman at suite224.net ************************************************* IN GOD WE TRUST A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed." --Second Amendment, United States Constitution The original point and click interface was a Smith &wesson ************************************************* web pages: http://web.mac.com/dcvelbar/Site/For_Sale_page_2.html PHOTO ALBUMS: http://community.webshots.com/album/560407973VgrFfU http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/patshwigar/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whitwood at fairpoint.net Sun Aug 30 11:59:47 2009 From: whitwood at fairpoint.net (Marcia Berkall) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 11:59:47 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Sunday Woodcarver Chat Message-ID: <20090830155950.614012907D7@smtp1.av-mx.com> Join in on the fun!!! For informative and fun REAL TIME conversations with a number of the carvers on "The List", come to the Woodcarver chats. We don't always talk about carving, but if anyone has a question or comment, we can get serious in a hurry. Get to know the people behind the names. And bring you carving questions with you!!! We meet on Wednesday nights at 9:30 PM Eastern and on Sundays at 4:30 PM Eastern. If you are NOT using an IRC chat program, I think you will like these simplified instructions!!! Just click on one of the links below...either will take you directly to #Woodcarverchat http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_williamslake.html?chan=#Woodcarverchat http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_stopover.html?chan=#woodcarverchat This may take a LONG time to load!!!!!!! Don't give up. When it finally does load, you will be asked to type in a nickname.....then click connect, and wait a little bit longer. The chat screen will open. Type something in the narrow horizontal space just below the chat screen and hit you enter key. Nothing to it! :) If you are using WebTV or still have trouble getting there, one of these links will work...we just save them as a last resort in case all other links don't work: http://63.79.14.90/cgi-bin/irc.cgi http://cobra-ip1.vipershells.com/cgi-bin/irc.cgi http://stopover.ky.us.starlink-irc.org/cgi-bin/irc.cgi (This one will have the fastest connection) Type in a nickname where it says"nickname"i Where is says, "channel", type in #woodcarverchat (don't forget the #). ******* If you are using an mIRC chat program: 1. Log onto your ISP. 2. Open mIRC. You should see a box "mIRC Options". If you don't then click on View then on "Options" Fill in the information there...you do NOT have to put in your real name or email address. For security purposes, make them up. Do put in the nickname you want and an alternative. 4. Click on the button with the sunburst icon, just to the right of the button that says, "Connect to Server". Where it says "IRC Network", scroll down until you see "Starlink-IRC" and highlight that so it shows in the window. There is also a Starlink network, so make sure that the one you select has the "IRC" after it. Now click on the arrow next to the IRC server window. That will list a number of Starlink-IRC servers....select one of them. The Starlink-IRC random server will automatically pick one of the servers for you, so you can use that one. With one of the Starlink-IRC servers in the window, click on "Connect to Server" If the Starlink Random Server is not in your mirc program you can add it: Click the "add" button. Where it says "Description" type "Starlink Random Server" Where it says "IRC Server" type IRC.STARLINK-IRC.ORG Port should be 6664,6665,6666,6667,6668,6669 (all of those with no spaces between them) and "Group" is Starlink-IRC 5. Once connected, you'll see lots of scrolling text. When that stops, type /join #Woodcarverchat in the window at the bottom and hit your "enter" key. (you need the / and #, and Woodcarverchat must be spelled exactly right) I have put these instructions on a web page with direct links at http://artwebmaine.com/woodcarverchat.html You may want to bookmark it. ******* See you there! E-mail me off the list for additional information and instructions. Marcia Berkall whitwood at fairpoint.net See Marcia's wood carvings at: Whittlins 'n Wood Web Page Blog ***** ArtWeb Maine--Affordable Web Page Design ***** Become a Facebook Fan of Whittlins 'n Wood -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From outdoor111 at verizon.net Sun Aug 30 14:14:58 2009 From: outdoor111 at verizon.net (SANDIE BURGDORF) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 11:14:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] GOW couch Message-ID: <411604.25150.qm@web84203.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Now Earl, calm down. You know you get first dibs on that couch. Just remember you are the one who said you would rather mow lawns instead of come to the GOW.? :) Good luck on that surgery Monday. Couldn't you plead that you need to recover and come to the GOW anyhow? And Maura - next year the GOW will probably be the first full week of October. Switch your Cape Cod trip to fit in the GOW in 2010. Sandie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wruss at roadrunner.com Mon Aug 31 10:40:04 2009 From: wruss at roadrunner.com (Bill Russell) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:40:04 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] w3e Message-ID: <1B856D7B5C5C4219B1C3BA786BA13CB1@WWXWX> I received a very nice "shelf Elf" in the mail Friday. Mike Delke carved this clever bearded fellow. My wife and I are very happy to add Mike's carving to the other exchange carvings we have collected. Mike, thank you for the carving, and he has a home on a shelf with some other carvings. Bill Russell Lockport NY Please visit my web site: http://BillsKreativeKindling.com Pictures of my latest carvings: http://www.PictureTrail.com/wrussluvs2carve From ron at carvedbyramsey.com Mon Aug 31 13:21:05 2009 From: ron at carvedbyramsey.com (Ramsey) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:21:05 -0700 Subject: [Woodcarver] Carved Raven Commission Message-ID: I received a request for a commission to carve a raven for the top of a staff from a potential customer. I gave him a price of $525 for the carving that was beyond his budget. I am a professional woodcarver so I have to charge more for my time than some part time carvers. I thought maybe someone on the list would like to give it a try. The raven is at top of the staff of Atiesh Greatstaff of the Guardian which you can google to see. He gave me permission to post his email on the list. His name is Scott and his email is: snichols at cityofhawthorne.org -- Ron Ramsey http://www.carvedbyramsey.com Be sure to look at the incredible nature inspired art jewelry hand fabricated by my wife, Karen Olsen Ramsey. It's worth the time to take a look! http://www.artjeweler.com From linehan718 at aol.com Mon Aug 31 18:15:44 2009 From: linehan718 at aol.com (linehan718 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:15:44 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] off topic please excuse--mozilla firefox question Message-ID: <8CBF89FB7BCC529-21E0-2BD27@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com> Hi all, sort of carving related or at least carving list related because I am trying to fix my email problem with this and other carving lists.? Recently decided to change browsers when my OS corrupted and had to rebuild everything.? Thank god for external backups. ???? Any how, took your advice and I am now using firefox exclusively and am wondering if there is any way to permanently attach a signature line at the bottom of my emails as I was doing with my old browser.? If there is, I'm sure it is simple, I just haven't figured it out yet.? I have noticed that? my emails have been going out without my name and website attached(unless I remember to type it in) and I apologize for the anonymous posts. Thanks Maura?? www.carvinginnyc.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From abkinnaman at earthlink.net Mon Aug 31 18:23:08 2009 From: abkinnaman at earthlink.net (Byron) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:23:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] off topic please excuse--mozilla firefox question Message-ID: <3513605.1251757388742.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> There's nothing in any browser that allows signature lines for email. If you're using a web mail system the signature line is in the web mail client. When you have your web mail where you read it there should be something about setting, properties, options, or some other type of wording. If your web mail will allow signature lines it should be there someplace. Byron -----Original Message----- From: linehan718 at aol.com Sent: Aug 31, 2009 6:15 PM To: woodcarver at six.pairlist.net Subject: [Woodcarver] off topic please excuse--mozilla firefox question Hi all, sort of carving related or at least carving list related because I am trying to fix my email problem with this and other carving lists. Recently decided to change browsers when my OS corrupted and had to rebuild everything. Thank god for external backups. Any how, took your advice and I am now using firefox exclusively and am wondering if there is any way to permanently attach a signature line at the bottom of my emails as I was doing with my old browser. If there is, I'm sure it is simple, I just haven't figured it out yet. I have noticed that my emails have been going out without my name and website attached(unless I remember to type it in) and I apologize for the anonymous posts. Thanks Maura www.carvinginnyc.com From lowvillecarver at yahoo.com Mon Aug 31 18:46:15 2009 From: lowvillecarver at yahoo.com (Patti Landmann) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:46:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] off topic please excuse--mozilla firefox question In-Reply-To: <8CBF89FB7BCC529-21E0-2BD27@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CBF89FB7BCC529-21E0-2BD27@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <635927.74575.qm@web53511.mail.re2.yahoo.com> First,? I plead guilty to knowing nothing...next...my opinion...I do and will speak on any subject.?? I think the signature line is generated in your mail program...gmail or yahoomail? or ???? and not in the web browser.?? I know not how to?explain this but that is what I think. ? Patti Landmann lowvillecarver at yahoo.com? http://www.picturetrail.com/lowvillecarver.............for carvings, family and more http://lagrandmama.blogspot.com/...........for my Grandma experiences http://picasaweb.google.com/lowvillecarver...........for Bird, Deer & Flower Photos from our house http://www.centuryinter.net/treasures/.........for my old dated web site,still good stuff: ________________________________ From: "linehan718 at aol.com" To: woodcarver at six.pairlist.net Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 5:15:44 PM Subject: [Woodcarver] off topic please excuse--mozilla firefox question Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. Hi all, sort of carving related or at least carving list related because I am trying to fix my email problem with this and other carving lists.? Recently decided to change browsers when my OS corrupted and had to rebuild everything.? Thank god for external backups. ???? Any how, took your advice and I am now using firefox exclusively and am wondering if there is any way to permanently attach a signature line at the bottom of my emails as I was doing with my old browser.? If there is, I'm sure it is simple, I just haven't figured it out yet.? I have noticed that? my emails have been going out without my name and website attached(unless I remember to type it in) and I apologize for the anonymous posts. Thanks Maura?? www.carvinginnyc.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sammtn at aeneas.net Mon Aug 31 18:38:15 2009 From: sammtn at aeneas.net (Sam) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:38:15 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] off topic please excuse--mozilla firefox question In-Reply-To: <8CBF89FB7BCC529-21E0-2BD27@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CBF89FB7BCC529-21E0-2BD27@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <513134932.20090831173815@aeneas.net> Hi Maura, I have used Firefox for 10 years or more and did not have an e-mail application with Firefox itself. It is possible that they have a suite which has an e-mail client but if it is, it is likely Thunderbird. If you also have Thunderbird, go to the Tools/Account Settings and click on the name you have for your e-mail service. Halfway down that window there is an area for signatures. -- Have a good day, Sam New Web Site address: http://www.wooddesignsofjackson.com/ From linehan718 at aol.com Mon Aug 31 19:07:36 2009 From: linehan718 at aol.com (Maura Macaluso) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 19:07:36 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] off topic please excuse--mozilla firefox question-problem solved-Thanks all In-Reply-To: <513134932.20090831173815@aeneas.net> References: <8CBF89FB7BCC529-21E0-2BD27@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com> <513134932.20090831173815@aeneas.net> Message-ID: <8CBF8A6F6A339E2-21E0-2C6C0@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com> Okay as you can see from my signature below, I have figured it out thanks to you fine people.? I knew you would have the answer.? Thanks Maura Carving in NYC www.carvinginnyc.com Staten Island Woodcarvers Club www.picturetrail.com/carvinginnyc -----Original Message----- From: Sam To: [Woodcarver] Sent: Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:38 pm Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] off topic please excuse--mozilla firefox question Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. Hi Maura, I have used Firefox for 10 years or more and did not have an e-mail application with Firefox itself. It is possible that they have a suite which has an e-mail client but if it is, it is likely Thunderbird. If you also have Thunderbird, go to the Tools/Account Settings and click on the name you have for your e-mail service. Halfway down that window there is an area for signatures. -- Have a good day, Sam New Web Site address: http://www.wooddesignsofjackson.com/ _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bremmers at midwestinfo.com Mon Aug 31 19:01:33 2009 From: bremmers at midwestinfo.com (Gene and Darlene Bremmer) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:01:33 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] off topic please excuse--mozilla firefox question References: <8CBF89FB7BCC529-21E0-2BD27@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com> <635927.74575.qm@web53511.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3ABD0493DF1C41898D8E89E15DE4AFA9@bremmers> Patti Love your comment..... Are you trying to say you are confused, but, do not know why you think you are confused?? At least you are thinking, even if you don't know what you are thinking.... LOL..... Darlene and I had a nice big smile over your message. Thanks Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Patti Landmann To: [Woodcarver] Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] off topic please excuse--mozilla firefox question Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ First, I plead guilty to knowing nothing...next...my opinion...I do and will speak on any subject. I think the signature line is generated in your mail program...gmail or yahoomail or ??? and not in the web browser. I know not how to explain this but that is what I think. 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URL: From lowvillecarver at yahoo.com Mon Aug 31 19:47:17 2009 From: lowvillecarver at yahoo.com (Patti Landmann) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:47:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] off topic please excuse--mozilla firefox question In-Reply-To: <3ABD0493DF1C41898D8E89E15DE4AFA9@bremmers> References: <8CBF89FB7BCC529-21E0-2BD27@webmail-d055.sysops.aol.com> <635927.74575.qm@web53511.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <3ABD0493DF1C41898D8E89E15DE4AFA9@bremmers> Message-ID: <997546.9780.qm@web53510.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I missed being class clown by one vote....It seems I still stive to be?a smile provider. ? Patti Landmann lowvillecarver at yahoo.com? http://www.picturetrail.com/lowvillecarver.............for carvings, family and more http://lagrandmama.blogspot.com/...........for my Grandma experiences http://picasaweb.google.com/lowvillecarver...........for Bird, Deer & Flower Photos from our house http://www.centuryinter.net/treasures/.........for my old dated web site,still good stuff: ________________________________ From: Gene and Darlene Bremmer To: [Woodcarver] Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 6:01:33 PM Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] off topic please excuse--mozilla firefox question Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. Patti ? Love your comment.....?? Are you trying to say you are confused, but, do not know why you think you are confused??? At least you are thinking, even if you don't know what you are thinking....? LOL.....? Darlene and I had a nice big smile over your message.?? Thanks ? Gene ----- Original Message ----- >From: Patti Landmann >To: [Woodcarver] >Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 5:46 PM >Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] off topic please excuse--mozilla firefox question > >Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. > > > ________________________________ >First,? I plead guilty to knowing nothing...next...my opinion...I do and will speak on any subject.?? I think the signature line is generated in your mail program...gmail or yahoomail? or ???? and not in the web browser.?? I know not how to?explain this but that is what I think. >? >Patti Landmann > >lowvillecarver at yahoo.com? > > >http://www.picturetrail.com/lowvillecarver.............for carvings, family and more >http://lagrandmama.blogspot.com/...........for my Grandma experiences >http://picasaweb.google.com/lowvillecarver...........for Bird, Deer & Flower Photos from our house >http://www.centuryinter.net/treasures/.........for my old dated web site,still good stuff: > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From womeditor at comcast.net Mon Aug 31 21:57:30 2009 From: womeditor at comcast.net (Matt Kelley) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:57:30 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Virtual Carving Studio Update Message-ID: Hello Carvers - A few more suggestions have been added to the list of functional areas for the Virtual Carving Studio - but I think there are more out there. Feel free to contribute more to this brain storming session here on the List or via the form on the VCS web site at carverscompanion.com. We'll continue this brain storming session a few more days, Heres' the current list of functional areas - there may be some overlap, but we'll sort that out as we go. Carve On! Matt Material Storage Large Tool area Sink/water source Computer station Reference Material Steam Box/Stick straightening Store front sales Design area Clay Modeling Media storage Wood processing (cutting, planing, glue-up, etc) mallet tool carving Small hand tool carving Pyrography Power carving Teaching studio Guest housing Finishing (staining, painting, other finishes, gold leaf) Office Writing area Photography Bulk Wood Storage Machine/Blacksmith shop Tool Sharpening (power and hand) Display area Rest Rooms First Aid Station Food/Beverage service Flooring Overhead Lighting Sanding Area Finish Drying Area Spray Booth From psherman at suite224.net Mon Aug 31 21:00:21 2009 From: psherman at suite224.net (P Sherman) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:00:21 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] off topic please excuse--mozilla firefox question References: <3513605.1251757388742.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: dont know about other email programs but in my outlook express i click on tools then on signaure and it brings up a window where i cna put my signature line in and click apply and it comes up on every email i write. 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URL: From rscheffler at dc.rr.com Mon Aug 31 23:06:47 2009 From: rscheffler at dc.rr.com (Ralph Scheffler) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:06:47 -0700 Subject: [Woodcarver] Virtual Carving Studio Update In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2BF2E6EB974C46E792FAE1C92EDAD444@Ralph> Matt - Include "Routering and design" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Kelley" To: "Woodcarver List" Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 6:57 PM Subject: [Woodcarver] Virtual Carving Studio Update > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit > carverscompanion.com/List/Support.html to donate. > > > Hello Carvers - > > A few more suggestions have been added to the list of functional areas > for the Virtual Carving Studio - but I think there are more out there. > Feel free to contribute more to this brain storming session here on the > List or via the form on the VCS web site at carverscompanion.com. > We'll continue this brain storming session a few more days, > > Heres' the current list of functional areas - there may be some overlap, > but we'll sort that out as we go. > > Carve On! > > Matt > > Material Storage > Large Tool area > Sink/water source > Computer station > Reference Material > Steam Box/Stick straightening > Store front sales > Design area > Clay Modeling > Media storage > Wood processing (cutting, planing, glue-up, etc) > mallet tool carving > Small hand tool carving > Pyrography > Power carving > Teaching studio > Guest housing > Finishing (staining, painting, other finishes, gold leaf) > Office > Writing area > Photography > Bulk Wood Storage > Machine/Blacksmith shop > Tool Sharpening (power and hand) > Display area > Rest Rooms > First Aid Station > Food/Beverage service > Flooring > Overhead Lighting > Sanding Area > Finish Drying Area > Spray Booth > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver >