From whitwood at fairpoint.net Sun Mar 1 12:28:47 2009 From: whitwood at fairpoint.net (Marcia Berkall) Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:28:47 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Sunday Woodcarver Chat Message-ID: <20090301172848.AF0891BF89B@smtp0.av-mx.com> Join in on the fun!!! For informative and fun REAL TIME conversations with a number of the carvers on "The List", come to the Woodcarver chats. We don't always talk about carving, but if anyone has a question or comment, we can get serious in a hurry. Get to know the people behind the names. And bring you carving questions with you!!! We meet on Wednesday nights at 9:30 PM Eastern and on Sundays at 4:30 PM Eastern. If you are NOT using an IRC chat program, I think you will like these simplified instructions!!! Just click on one of the links below...either will take you directly to #Woodcarverchat http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_williamslake.html?chan=#Woodcarverchat http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_stopover.html?chan=#woodcarverchat This may take a LONG time to load!!!!!!! Don't give up. When it finally does load, you will be asked to type in a nickname.....then click connect, and wait a little bit longer. The chat screen will open. Type something in the narrow horizontal space just below the chat screen and hit you enter key. Nothing to it! :) If you are using WebTV or still have trouble getting there, one of these links will work...we just save them as a last resort in case all other links don't work: http://63.79.14.90/cgi-bin/irc.cgi http://cobra-ip1.vipershells.com/cgi-bin/irc.cgi http://stopover.ky.us.starlink-irc.org/cgi-bin/irc.cgi (This one will have the fastest connection) Type in a nickname where it says"nickname"i Where is says, "channel", type in #woodcarverchat (don't forget the #). ******* If you are using an mIRC chat program: 1. Log onto your ISP. 2. Open mIRC. You should see a box "mIRC Options". If you don't then click on View then on "Options" Fill in the information there...you do NOT have to put in your real name or email address. For security purposes, make them up. Do put in the nickname you want and an alternative. 4. Click on the button with the sunburst icon, just to the right of the button that says, "Connect to Server". Where it says "IRC Network", scroll down until you see "Starlink-IRC" and highlight that so it shows in the window. There is also a Starlink network, so make sure that the one you select has the "IRC" after it. Now click on the arrow next to the IRC server window. That will list a number of Starlink-IRC servers....select one of them. The Starlink-IRC random server will automatically pick one of the servers for you, so you can use that one. With one of the Starlink-IRC servers in the window, click on "Connect to Server" If the Starlink Random Server is not in your mirc program you can add it: Click the "add" button. Where it says "Description" type "Starlink Random Server" Where it says "IRC Server" type IRC.STARLINK-IRC.ORG Port should be 6664,6665,6666,6667,6668,6669 (all of those with no spaces between them) and "Group" is Starlink-IRC 5. Once connected, you'll see lots of scrolling text. When that stops, type /join #Woodcarverchat in the window at the bottom and hit your "enter" key. (you need the / and #, and Woodcarverchat must be spelled exactly right) I have put these instructions on a web page with direct links at http://artwebmaine.com/woodcarverchat.html You may want to bookmark it. ******* See you there! E-mail me off the list for additional information and instructions. Marcia Berkall whitwood at fairpoint.net See Marcia's wood carvings at: http://whittlinsnwood.com Blog: http://cahvah.wordpress.com/ ***** Affordable Web Page Design: http://artwebmaine.com ***** Get 20% Off CoffeeCup Web Design Software Use this code when you checkout: 226STS www.getcoffeecup.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I like the faces on the bottle stoppers too. Bill Bill Russell Lockport NY Please visit my web site: http://BillsKreativeKindling.com Pictures of my latest carvings: http://www.PictureTrail.com/wrussluvs2carve ----- Original Message ----- From: Corey Hallagan To: Woodcarvers Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 3:17 PM Subject: [Woodcarver] Hillbilly Carving WIP Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Started this Mike Shipley pattern "Odie" this morning. Was in the mood to do a hillbilly. Anyway, carved in basswood. Thanks for looking as alwvays! http://iowacarver.tripod.com/id5.html -- Corey IowaCarver http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ http://picasaweb.google.com/IowaWoodCarver ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barnhardts at carolina.rr.com Sun Mar 1 19:25:28 2009 From: barnhardts at carolina.rr.com (Barney Barnhardt) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:25:28 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Knife Question Message-ID: Good Day Folks, I have a question that I'd like to pose to someone that has some experience with chip carving. It's a question that I know will generate strong feelings and I don't want to stir something up on here. So, if there is someone that would respond privately to my email address barnhardts (at) carolina (dot) rr (dot) com I'd appreciate it. Thanks.. Barney -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Linehan718 at aol.com Sun Mar 1 19:40:16 2009 From: Linehan718 at aol.com (Linehan718 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:40:16 EST Subject: [Woodcarver] Knife Question Message-ID: In a message dated 3/1/2009 7:25:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, barnhardts at carolina.rr.com writes: Good Day Folks, I have a question that I?d like to pose to someone that has some experience with chip carving. It?s a question that I know will generate strong feelings and I don?t want to stir something up on here. So, if there is someone that would respond privately to my email address barnhardts (at) carolina (dot) rr (dot) com I?d appreciate it. Thanks?? Barney making me very curious Maura _www.Carvinginnyc.com_ (http://www.carvinginnyc.com/) **************You're invited to Hollywood's biggest party: Get Oscars updates, red carpet pics and more at Moviefone. (http://movies.aol.com/oscars-academy-awards?ncid=emlcntusmovi00000001) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From daniel.heine at comcast.net Sun Mar 1 19:45:04 2009 From: daniel.heine at comcast.net (Daniel Heine) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:45:04 -0600 Subject: [Woodcarver] Knife Question References: Message-ID: <003b01c99ad0$21358340$6801a8c0@zandakydhfnynq> Barney, I have done a bit of chip carving. Please feel free to contaxct me if you need help. Dan daniel.heine at comcast.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jancarves3 at rogers.com Mon Mar 2 07:30:17 2009 From: jancarves3 at rogers.com (Jan Oegema) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 07:30:17 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Knife Question References: <003b01c99ad0$21358340$6801a8c0@zandakydhfnynq> Message-ID: <0CC795E7AC5B4A8CB2C7C69F2450420E@your27e1513d96> I have done and still do a LOT of chipcarving check my website and just ask Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From dge1 at comcast.net Wed Mar 4 14:15:55 2009 From: dge1 at comcast.net (Doug Evans) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 14:15:55 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Denny Neubauer In-Reply-To: <49d3fd9d0902281757l2a2d2d5em280000c8365cef12@mail.gmail.com> References: <49d3fd9d0902281757l2a2d2d5em280000c8365cef12@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000001c99cfd$a4728f80$ed57ae80$@net> Would someone please pass on Denny's phone number ?? Thanks !!! Doug Evans -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com Wed Mar 4 14:29:49 2009 From: thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com (Larry Yudis) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 13:29:49 -0600 Subject: [Woodcarver] Denny Neubauer In-Reply-To: <000001c99cfd$a4728f80$ed57ae80$@net> Message-ID: <20090304192958.6237AE9D34@mailwash34.pair.com> I'll send it to you personally. Larry (BIG DOG) Yudis The Woodcraft Shop 2724 State St Bettendorf, IA 52722 800-397-2278 www.thewoodcraftshop.com Carol and Larry Yudis, Show Chairs International Woodcarvers Congress Affiliated Wood Carvers, Ltd. PO Box 104 Bettendorf, IA 52722 563-359-9684 (days) 563-355-3787 (evenings) www.awcltd.org _____ From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Doug Evans Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 1:16 PM To: '[Woodcarver]' Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Denny Neubauer Would someone please pass on Denny's phone number ?? Thanks !!! Doug Evans -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dge1 at comcast.net Wed Mar 4 14:46:20 2009 From: dge1 at comcast.net (Doug Evans) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 14:46:20 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Denny Neubauer In-Reply-To: <20090304192958.6237AE9D34@mailwash34.pair.com> References: <000001c99cfd$a4728f80$ed57ae80$@net> <20090304192958.6237AE9D34@mailwash34.pair.com> Message-ID: <001a01c99d01$e44e13a0$acea3ae0$@net> Mr BD Thanks !!! Hope all is well !!! Dougie !! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com Wed Mar 4 14:59:41 2009 From: thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com (Larry Yudis) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 13:59:41 -0600 Subject: [Woodcarver] Denny Neubauer In-Reply-To: <001a01c99d01$e44e13a0$acea3ae0$@net> Message-ID: <20090304195950.6363AE9D47@mailwash34.pair.com> You're welcome, DougE! All is better than well ... all is wonderful! Larry (BIG DOG) Yudis The Woodcraft Shop 2724 State St Bettendorf, IA 52722 800-397-2278 www.thewoodcraftshop.com Carol and Larry Yudis, Show Chairs International Woodcarvers Congress Affiliated Wood Carvers, Ltd. PO Box 104 Bettendorf, IA 52722 563-359-9684 (days) 563-355-3787 (evenings) www.awcltd.org _____ From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Doug Evans Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 1:46 PM To: '[Woodcarver]' Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Denny Neubauer Mr BD Thanks !!! Hope all is well !!! Dougie !! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jancarves3 at rogers.com Wed Mar 4 15:00:30 2009 From: jancarves3 at rogers.com (Jan Oegema) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 15:00:30 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Denny Neubauer References: <49d3fd9d0902281757l2a2d2d5em280000c8365cef12@mail.gmail.com> <000001c99cfd$a4728f80$ed57ae80$@net> Message-ID: <156EADCEC79940C79E81DD21AAAFB90A@your27e1513d96> Would someone please pass on Denny's phone number ?? Denny Neubauer E-mail Address(es): dennyknife at yahoo.com 515 265 4889 Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whitwood at fairpoint.net Wed Mar 4 17:55:02 2009 From: whitwood at fairpoint.net (Marcia Berkall) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:55:02 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Wednesday Woodcarver Chat Message-ID: <20090304225503.6CCFB290D9E@smtp1.av-mx.com> Join in on the fun!!! For informative and fun REAL TIME conversations with a number of the carvers on "The List", come to the Woodcarver chats. We don't always talk about carving, but if anyone has a question or comment, we can get serious in a hurry. Get to know the people behind the names. And bring you carving questions with you!!! We meet on Wednesday nights at 9:30 PM Eastern and on Sundays at 4:30 PM Eastern. If you are NOT using an IRC chat program, I think you will like these simplified instructions!!! Just click on one of the links below...either will take you directly to #Woodcarverchat http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_williamslake.html?chan=#Woodcarverchat http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_stopover.html?chan=#woodcarverchat This may take a LONG time to load!!!!!!! Don't give up. When it finally does load, you will be asked to type in a nickname.....then click connect, and wait a little bit longer. The chat screen will open. Type something in the narrow horizontal space just below the chat screen and hit you enter key. Nothing to it! :) If you are using WebTV or still have trouble getting there, one of these links will work...we just save them as a last resort in case all other links don't work: http://63.79.14.90/cgi-bin/irc.cgi http://cobra-ip1.vipershells.com/cgi-bin/irc.cgi http://stopover.ky.us.starlink-irc.org/cgi-bin/irc.cgi (This one will have the fastest connection) Type in a nickname where it says"nickname"i Where is says, "channel", type in #woodcarverchat (don't forget the #). ******* If you are using an mIRC chat program: 1. Log onto your ISP. 2. Open mIRC. You should see a box "mIRC Options". If you don't then click on View then on "Options" Fill in the information there...you do NOT have to put in your real name or email address. For security purposes, make them up. Do put in the nickname you want and an alternative. 4. Click on the button with the sunburst icon, just to the right of the button that says, "Connect to Server". Where it says "IRC Network", scroll down until you see "Starlink-IRC" and highlight that so it shows in the window. There is also a Starlink network, so make sure that the one you select has the "IRC" after it. Now click on the arrow next to the IRC server window. That will list a number of Starlink-IRC servers....select one of them. The Starlink-IRC random server will automatically pick one of the servers for you, so you can use that one. With one of the Starlink-IRC servers in the window, click on "Connect to Server" If the Starlink Random Server is not in your mirc program you can add it: Click the "add" button. Where it says "Description" type "Starlink Random Server" Where it says "IRC Server" type IRC.STARLINK-IRC.ORG Port should be 6664,6665,6666,6667,6668,6669 (all of those with no spaces between them) and "Group" is Starlink-IRC 5. Once connected, you'll see lots of scrolling text. When that stops, type /join #Woodcarverchat in the window at the bottom and hit your "enter" key. (you need the / and #, and Woodcarverchat must be spelled exactly right) I have put these instructions on a web page with direct links at http://artwebmaine.com/woodcarverchat.html You may want to bookmark it. ******* See you there! E-mail me off the list for additional information and instructions. Marcia Berkall whitwood at fairpoint.net See Marcia's wood carvings at: http://whittlinsnwood.com Blog: http://cahvah.wordpress.com/ ***** Affordable Web Page Design: http://artwebmaine.com ***** Get 20% Off CoffeeCup Web Design Software Use this code when you checkout: 226STS www.getcoffeecup.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dge1 at comcast.net Wed Mar 4 22:44:15 2009 From: dge1 at comcast.net (Doug Evans) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 22:44:15 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Denny Neubauer In-Reply-To: <20090304195950.6363AE9D47@mailwash34.pair.com> References: <001a01c99d01$e44e13a0$acea3ae0$@net> <20090304195950.6363AE9D47@mailwash34.pair.com> Message-ID: <008801c99d44$a8bb1660$fa314320$@net> BD, If I was anymore wonderful I'd be you !!! Take care and my best to Miss Carol !!! Doug You're welcome, DougE! All is better than well ... all is wonderful! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cgoss at eastlink.ca Thu Mar 5 09:42:40 2009 From: cgoss at eastlink.ca (Clive Goss) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 10:42:40 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Unsubscribe. Message-ID: Hi, Please unsubscribe me from the list, I no longer have the time to edit all the e mails recieved. thank you and all to best to one and all. 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I hardly get any several days go bye without an "E" from this list Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From celtcarver at mac.com Thu Mar 5 12:35:45 2009 From: celtcarver at mac.com (W.M. Kelley) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:35:45 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Unsubscribe request In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0664E974-183C-4C53-BBA1-F2A2A64033E9@mac.com> Hi Clive - To unsubscribe yourself, you may: 1) Click on the link that appears at the bottom of each page: http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver Once there, scroll to the bottom of the page, enter your email addy in the box there, and click the button to proceed. OR 2) You can also use email to make subscription changes. For more info, send a message to containing just the word 'help' in the message body, and an email message will be sent to you with instructions. If either of those methods is not successful, please email me off list. Carve On! *********************************************** Matt Kelley: Woodcarver, E-zine Editor, W3E Coordinator Woodcarver Online Magazine, W3Exchange Programs, Carver Resource Files at: http://carverscompanion.com Carving Shirts & Gear at: http://carverscompanion.com/cclogostuff/logostuff.html CelticCarver WoodWorks: http://celtcarver.com On Mar 5, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Clive Goss wrote: > > > Hi, > Please unsubscribe me from the list, > > I no longer have the time to edit all the e mails recieved. > thank you and all to best to one and all. > Clive. From vhamburg at bellatlantic.net Thu Mar 5 20:20:56 2009 From: vhamburg at bellatlantic.net (Vic & Cynthia Hamburger) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:20:56 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Split mandrel help? Message-ID: <49B07A78.3000205@bellatlantic.net> For the power carvers out there....... I have some tapered sanding points that have a hollow center with a bit of sandpaper crossing the center of the hole. This would seem to need a split mandrel that fits the size of the hole and the paper slips into the slot on the mandrel. Once power is applied, it locks together to sand without slipping. My question is, how do you slide the split mandrel into the hole and get the sandpaper flap inside to slip into the slot? I have some 120 grit sanding points that don't want to slip into the split for me. I haven't tried finer grits, but am guessing they will be equally challenging. Thanks! Vic H From chrishoward307 at bellsouth.net Thu Mar 5 20:37:27 2009 From: chrishoward307 at bellsouth.net (Chris Howard) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 20:37:27 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Split mandrel help? References: <49B07A78.3000205@bellatlantic.net> Message-ID: <000701c99dfc$1c0ca540$6101a8c0@chris112005> Vic Look down towards bottom of page I think this is the Mandrel your looking for, http://www.chippingaway.com/WoodCarving/SandingProducts-ManualandPower/SandingDrumsandCones.htm Chris Howard From: "Vic & Cynthia Hamburger" To: "[Woodcarver]" Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 8:20 PM Subject: [Woodcarver] Split mandrel help? > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > For the power carvers out there....... > > I have some tapered sanding points that have a hollow center with a bit of > sandpaper crossing the center of the hole. This would seem to need a > split mandrel that fits the size of the hole and the paper slips into the > slot on the mandrel. Once power is applied, it locks together to sand > without slipping. > > My question is, how do you slide the split mandrel into the hole and get > the sandpaper flap inside to slip into the slot? I have some 120 grit > sanding points that don't want to slip into the split for me. I haven't > tried finer grits, but am guessing they will be equally challenging. > > Thanks! > > Vic H > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From bremmers at midwestinfo.com Thu Mar 5 21:15:39 2009 From: bremmers at midwestinfo.com (Gene and Darlene Bremmer) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 20:15:39 -0600 Subject: [Woodcarver] Split mandrel help? References: <49B07A78.3000205@bellatlantic.net> Message-ID: <50D8646C3F02474A9CFA892F027EA8C7@bremmers> Hi Vic I have some Guge sanders that are like that and they work just great with the split mandrel sliding in real easy. Got mine from Big Dog. Gene Picturetrail Album at: http://picturetrail.com/bremmers Email bremmers at midwestinfo.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Vic & Cynthia Hamburger To: [Woodcarver] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 7:20 PM Subject: [Woodcarver] Split mandrel help? Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving For the power carvers out there....... I have some tapered sanding points that have a hollow center with a bit of sandpaper crossing the center of the hole. This would seem to need a split mandrel that fits the size of the hole and the paper slips into the slot on the mandrel. Once power is applied, it locks together to sand without slipping. My question is, how do you slide the split mandrel into the hole and get the sandpaper flap inside to slip into the slot? I have some 120 grit sanding points that don't want to slip into the split for me. I haven't tried finer grits, but am guessing they will be equally challenging. Thanks! Vic H _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.7/1983 - Release Date: 03/04/09 07:41:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bremmers at midwestinfo.com Thu Mar 5 21:18:06 2009 From: bremmers at midwestinfo.com (Gene and Darlene Bremmer) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 20:18:06 -0600 Subject: [Woodcarver] Split mandrel help? References: <49B07A78.3000205@bellatlantic.net> <000701c99dfc$1c0ca540$6101a8c0@chris112005> Message-ID: <33D299161A984C6FBDC8F74BFD00A95F@bremmers> Vic, The ones Chris is showing appear to be the same as the ones I have. Gene Picturetrail Album at: http://picturetrail.com/bremmers Email bremmers at midwestinfo.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Howard To: [Woodcarver] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Split mandrel help? Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Vic Look down towards bottom of page I think this is the Mandrel your looking for, http://www.chippingaway.com/WoodCarving/SandingProducts-ManualandPower/SandingDrumsandCones.htm Chris Howard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rja9 at usfamily.net Thu Mar 5 22:26:56 2009 From: rja9 at usfamily.net (Dick Allen) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:26:56 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Woodcarver] Split mandrel help? In-Reply-To: <49B07A78.3000205@bellatlantic.net> References: <49B07A78.3000205@bellatlantic.net> Message-ID: <49B097FD.1020604@usfamily.net> If you are referring to the sanding cones as Chris pointed to, take a deck screw and cut the head of to use as a mandrel. The sanding cones also come in a cylinder shape. Dick Allen Vic & Cynthia Hamburger wrote: > > I have some tapered sanding points that have a hollow center with a > bit of sandpaper crossing the center of the hole. This would seem to > need a split mandrel that fits the size of the hole and the paper > slips into the slot on the mandrel. Once power is applied, it locks > together to sand without slipping. > > My question is, how do you slide the split mandrel into the hole and > get the sandpaper flap inside to slip into the slot? I have some 120 > grit sanding points that don't want to slip into the split for me. I > haven't tried finer grits, but am guessing they will be equally > challenging. > > Thanks! > > Vic H > --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html --- From celtcarver at comcast.net Fri Mar 6 07:47:09 2009 From: celtcarver at comcast.net (Matt Kelley) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 07:47:09 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Fwd: Kansas City Woodcarving Show References: <61B3CFB1-9B4D-4B4C-A359-00ECEC0C8EE0@me.com> Message-ID: <5326434B-8084-4A4B-9C5B-11683EB6D00A@comcast.net> Marty Epping asked to pass on this announcement for the KC Wood Carvers Club: *********************************************** Matt Kelley: Woodcarver, E-zine Editor, W3E Coordinator Woodcarver Online Magazine, W3Exchange Programs, Carver Resource Files at: http://carverscompanion.com Carving Shirts & Gear at: http://carverscompanion.com/cclogostuff/logostuff.html CelticCarver WoodWorks: http://celtcarver.com Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Marty Epping >> Date: March 5, 2009 8:20:18 PM EST >> Subject: Kansas City Woodcarving Show >> I would like to announce the KC Woodcarving Show >> >> And invite any and all members to our show. >> Thank you >> Marty Epping >> http://www.geocities.com/kcwoodcarvers/show.html >> >> Kansas City Wood Carvers Club >> >> 36th Annual Artistry in Wood Show >> >> John Knox Pavilion, >> 520 N.W. 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URL: From thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com Fri Mar 6 11:22:24 2009 From: thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com (Larry Yudis) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:22:24 -0600 Subject: [Woodcarver] Split mandrel help? In-Reply-To: <000701c99dfc$1c0ca540$6101a8c0@chris112005> Message-ID: <20090306162303.34EA6E9D17@mailwash34.pair.com> Uh ... thanks Chris! :o) How about: http://www.thewoodcraftshop.com/store/c/470-Guge-Bits-Burrs-Sanders-and-Woodburn ing-Tips.html LOL! Larry (BIG DOG) Yudis The Woodcraft Shop 2724 State St Bettendorf, IA 52722 800-397-2278 www.thewoodcraftshop.com Carol and Larry Yudis, Show Chairs International Woodcarvers Congress Affiliated Wood Carvers, Ltd. PO Box 104 Bettendorf, IA 52722 563-359-9684 (days) 563-355-3787 (evenings) www.awcltd.org -----Original Message----- From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Chris Howard Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 7:37 PM To: [Woodcarver] Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Split mandrel help? Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Vic Look down towards bottom of page I think this is the Mandrel your looking for, http://www.chippingaway.com/WoodCarving/SandingProducts-ManualandPower/SandingDr umsandCones.htm Chris Howard From: "Vic & Cynthia Hamburger" To: "[Woodcarver]" Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 8:20 PM Subject: [Woodcarver] Split mandrel help? > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' > Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > For the power carvers out there....... > > I have some tapered sanding points that have a hollow center with a > bit of sandpaper crossing the center of the hole. This would seem to > need a split mandrel that fits the size of the hole and the paper > slips into the slot on the mandrel. Once power is applied, it locks > together to sand without slipping. > > My question is, how do you slide the split mandrel into the hole and > get the sandpaper flap inside to slip into the slot? I have some 120 > grit sanding points that don't want to slip into the split for me. I > haven't tried finer grits, but am guessing they will be equally challenging. > > Thanks! > > Vic H > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com Fri Mar 6 11:25:44 2009 From: thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com (Larry Yudis) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:25:44 -0600 Subject: [Woodcarver] Split mandrel help? In-Reply-To: <50D8646C3F02474A9CFA892F027EA8C7@bremmers> Message-ID: <20090306162557.104F8E9D4B@mailwash34.pair.com> Thank you, Gene! Larry (BIG DOG) Yudis The Woodcraft Shop 2724 State St Bettendorf, IA 52722 800-397-2278 www.thewoodcraftshop.com Carol and Larry Yudis, Show Chairs International Woodcarvers Congress Affiliated Wood Carvers, Ltd. PO Box 104 Bettendorf, IA 52722 563-359-9684 (days) 563-355-3787 (evenings) www.awcltd.org _____ From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Gene and Darlene Bremmer Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 8:16 PM To: [Woodcarver] Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Split mandrel help? Hi Vic I have some Guge sanders that are like that and they work just great with the split mandrel sliding in real easy. Got mine from Big Dog. Gene Picturetrail Album at: http://picturetrail.com/bremmers Email bremmers at midwestinfo.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Vic & Cynthia Hamburger To: [Woodcarver] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 7:20 PM Subject: [Woodcarver] Split mandrel help? Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving For the power carvers out there....... I have some tapered sanding points that have a hollow center with a bit of sandpaper crossing the center of the hole. This would seem to need a split mandrel that fits the size of the hole and the paper slips into the slot on the mandrel. Once power is applied, it locks together to sand without slipping. My question is, how do you slide the split mandrel into the hole and get the sandpaper flap inside to slip into the slot? I have some 120 grit sanding points that don't want to slip into the split for me. I haven't tried finer grits, but am guessing they will be equally challenging. Thanks! Vic H _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver _____ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.7/1983 - Release Date: 03/04/09 07:41:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bremmers at midwestinfo.com Fri Mar 6 12:08:53 2009 From: bremmers at midwestinfo.com (Gene and Darlene Bremmer) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 11:08:53 -0600 Subject: [Woodcarver] Split mandrel help? References: <20090306162557.104F8E9D4B@mailwash34.pair.com> Message-ID: You are very welcome BD....I just go where the getting is good.....Gene Picturetrail Album at: http://picturetrail.com/bremmers Email bremmers at midwestinfo.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Yudis To: '[Woodcarver]' Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Split mandrel help? Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thank you, Gene! Larry (BIG DOG) Yudis The Woodcraft Shop 2724 State St Bettendorf, IA 52722 800-397-2278 www.thewoodcraftshop.com Carol and Larry Yudis, Show Chairs International Woodcarvers Congress Affiliated Wood Carvers, Ltd. PO Box 104 Bettendorf, IA 52722 563-359-9684 (days) 563-355-3787 (evenings) www.awcltd.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Gene and Darlene Bremmer Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 8:16 PM To: [Woodcarver] Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Split mandrel help? Hi Vic I have some Guge sanders that are like that and they work just great with the split mandrel sliding in real easy. Got mine from Big Dog. Gene Picturetrail Album at: http://picturetrail.com/bremmers Email bremmers at midwestinfo.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Vic & Cynthia Hamburger To: [Woodcarver] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 7:20 PM Subject: [Woodcarver] Split mandrel help? Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving For the power carvers out there....... I have some tapered sanding points that have a hollow center with a bit of sandpaper crossing the center of the hole. This would seem to need a split mandrel that fits the size of the hole and the paper slips into the slot on the mandrel. Once power is applied, it locks together to sand without slipping. My question is, how do you slide the split mandrel into the hole and get the sandpaper flap inside to slip into the slot? I have some 120 grit sanding points that don't want to slip into the split for me. I haven't tried finer grits, but am guessing they will be equally challenging. 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URL: From donpbk at yahoo.com Fri Mar 6 12:40:53 2009 From: donpbk at yahoo.com (Donna Menke) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:40:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Woodcarver] LATEST CARVINGS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <572715.79627.qm@web54307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Looks good Jan- keep this up and you will become a carver yet- LOL Donna Menke http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book ----- Original Message ---- > From: Jan Oegema > To: woodcarvingfun at yahoogroups.com; woodcarver at carverscompanion.com; HouseOfWoodCarving at yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 8:35:12 AM > Subject: [Woodcarver] LATEST CARVINGS > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop > at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > > Placed 2 carvings in #2 (Latest) PT > Album > Sorry to say that for the second picture you have > to lay down as I could NOT for the live of it turn that Whaletooth upright > First carving is Butternut 20" x23" x1 1/2 " > whaletooth is bleached basswood 6 x3 1 1/2 x 3 deep > > > > Woodbutcher Jan > > > You are invited to check out my > website.. > http://www.janscarvingstudio.com > > Also > take a look at my picture trail albums > ... > http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher > > http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ > > > http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf From jancarves3 at rogers.com Fri Mar 6 13:42:03 2009 From: jancarves3 at rogers.com (Jan Oegema) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:42:03 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] CLOCK Message-ID: I am looking for plans to build a wooden clock Any one can help?? Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donpbk at yahoo.com Fri Mar 6 15:09:27 2009 From: donpbk at yahoo.com (Donna Menke) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 12:09:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Woodcarver] CLOCK In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <986047.28330.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Jan- I have the book "Small Woodworking Projects", the Best of Fine Woodworking, 1992 Taunton Press.that has 13 pages on how to design the works, and then an article on how to do it. Half.com has it for $14.10, or I could scan and send the pages to you if you want, no problem. It is pretty good. Donna Menke http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book ----- Original Message ---- > From: Jan Oegema > To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com; HouseOfWoodCarving at yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 12:42:03 PM > Subject: [Woodcarver] CLOCK > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop > at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > > I am looking for plans to build a wooden > clock > Any one can help?? > > Woodbutcher Jan > > > You are invited to check out my > website.. > http://www.janscarvingstudio.com > > Also > take a look at my picture trail albums > ... > http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher > > http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ > > > http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf From jdkc1982 at gmail.com Fri Mar 6 15:54:14 2009 From: jdkc1982 at gmail.com (Casey Willson) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 14:54:14 -0600 Subject: [Woodcarver] Sanding cones Message-ID: Well,Vic, I had to go look these up since I did not have a clue. Darn. My wish list just got longer. Casey -- "Man is only as valuable as he can help others" LRH "You can no more spoil a child with love than you can put out the sun with a bucket of gasoline" LRH Love to shop online? http://www.couponcactus.com/ (copy and paste!) Don't "Check-Out" before checking out Coupon Cactus for great online coupons, coupon codes, & cash back shopping! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whitwood at fairpoint.net Fri Mar 6 16:30:34 2009 From: whitwood at fairpoint.net (Marcia Berkall) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:30:34 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] LATEST CARVINGS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090306213035.9E62E290C54@smtp1.av-mx.com> Looks great., Jan...love the whale tooth..awesome expression on that face!! Marcia (aka Mush) >Placed 2 carvings in #2 (Latest) PT Album >Sorry to say that for the second picture you have to lay down as I >could NOT for the live of it turn that Whaletooth upright >First carving is Butternut 20" x23" x1 1/2 " whaletooth is bleached >basswood 6 x3 1 1/2 x 3 deep > Woodbutcher Jan See Marcia's wood carvings at: http://whittlinsnwood.com Blog: http://cahvah.wordpress.com/ ***** Affordable Web Page Design: http://artwebmaine.com ***** Get 20% Off CoffeeCup Web Design Software Use this code when you checkout: 226STS www.getcoffeecup.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From woodcarver87 at cox.net Fri Mar 6 18:16:58 2009 From: woodcarver87 at cox.net (John Anderson) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 18:16:58 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] LATEST CARVINGS References: Message-ID: Hey Jan, I luv the tooth....I see you have solved the age-old problem of getting the second eye to match the first. clever,clever,clever!! ;@) john a ----- Original Message ----- From: Jan Oegema To: woodcarvingfun at yahoogroups.com ; woodcarver at carverscompanion.com ; HouseOfWoodCarving at yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:35 AM Subject: [Woodcarver] LATEST CARVINGS Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Placed 2 carvings in #2 (Latest) PT Album Sorry to say that for the second picture you have to lay down as I could NOT for the live of it turn that Whaletooth upright First carving is Butternut 20" x23" x1 1/2 " whaletooth is bleached basswood 6 x3 1 1/2 x 3 deep Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. 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URL: From rja9 at usfamily.net Fri Mar 6 23:10:43 2009 From: rja9 at usfamily.net (Dick Allen) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 22:10:43 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Woodcarver] CLOCK In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49B1F3AB.1090608@usfamily.net> Jan Oegema wrote: > > I am looking for plans to build a wooden clock > Any one can help?? > Woodbutcher Jan > http://www.wooden-gear-clocks.com/ Try Googling wood clock kits. Dick --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html --- From tompierce at cox.net Fri Mar 6 23:17:14 2009 From: tompierce at cox.net (Tom Pierce) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 22:17:14 -0600 Subject: [Woodcarver] CLOCK References: <49B1F3AB.1090608@usfamily.net> Message-ID: Jan, why in the world would you want a wooden clock? You just know it wooden work. Tom "Old Age Is Not For Sissies" Pierce Bellevue, Nebraska mailto:tompierce at cox.net My Web Page http://www.carvertools.com/tpierce From Oregonkarver at aol.com Sat Mar 7 00:25:28 2009 From: Oregonkarver at aol.com (Oregonkarver at aol.com) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 00:25:28 EST Subject: [Woodcarver] CLOCK Message-ID: There were plans in a scroll saw magazine a few years back, I think it was Scrollsaw woodworking from Fox Chapel. I made the clock, lots of fun and challenge's in making it. _http://www.woodenclocks.co.uk/index.htm_ (http://www.woodenclocks.co.uk/index.htm) _http://www.scrollsawer.com/issue26/woodengearclock.php_ (http://www.scrollsawer.com/issue26/woodengearclock.php) _http://wooden-clockworks.com/_ (http://wooden-clockworks.com/) Try the above sites. Arthur In a message dated 3/6/2009 8:11:19 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, rja9 at usfamily.net writes: Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Jan Oegema wrote: > > I am looking for plans to build a wooden clock > Any one can help?? > Woodbutcher Jan > http://www.wooden-gear-clocks.com/ Try Googling wood clock kits. Dick --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html --- _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver **************Need a job? Find employment help in your area. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000005) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Oregonkarver at aol.com Sat Mar 7 00:47:33 2009 From: Oregonkarver at aol.com (Oregonkarver at aol.com) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 00:47:33 EST Subject: [Woodcarver] CLOCK Message-ID: One more site for clock plans _Scroll Saw Goodies: Wooden Gear Clock Plans_ (http://scrollsawgoodies.blogspot.com/2008/02/wooden-gear-clock-plans.html) Arthur In a message dated 3/6/2009 9:26:01 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, Oregonkarver at aol.com writes: Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving There were plans in a scroll saw magazine a few years back, I think it was Scrollsaw woodworking from Fox Chapel. I made the clock, lots of fun and challenge's in making it. _http://www.woodenclocks.co.uk/index.htm_ (http://www.woodenclocks.co.uk/index.htm) _http://www.scrollsawer.com/issue26/woodengearclock.php_ (http://www.scrollsawer.com/issue26/woodengearclock.php) _http://wooden-clockworks.com/_ (http://wooden-clockworks.com/) Try the above sites. Arthur In a message dated 3/6/2009 8:11:19 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, rja9 at usfamily.net writes: Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Jan Oegema wrote: > > I am looking for plans to build a wooden clock > Any one can help?? > Woodbutcher Jan > http://www.wooden-gear-clocks.com/ Try Googling wood clock kits. 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Anyway, this link should take you right to the new stuff... http://www.woodendreamz.com/Image28.htm#woodspirit Keep on Carvin' -Mike B.-> Wooden Dreams Woodcarving http://www.woodendreamz.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 3576 bytes Desc: not available Url : From donpbk at yahoo.com Sun Mar 8 14:44:02 2009 From: donpbk at yahoo.com (Donna Menke) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 11:44:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] New Woodspirit In-Reply-To: <1FA43366D05B4BAC91526B4A956C49EA@mikestoy> References: <1FA43366D05B4BAC91526B4A956C49EA@mikestoy> Message-ID: <559696.32475.qm@web54307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Mike- I think you have that green man stuff down pat. Gotta tell you though that my favorite- by a big margin- is the horizontal imp. You should have those cast in something permanent and I'd bet you would get a lot of people who would like to put them in their flower beds. What a kick. The site looks real nice- good size on the photos. I'm redoing my site as we speak- and deciding what to put where and how big to make things are major decisions. I'll post here when it is ready for prime time. Donna Menke http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book ----- Original Message ---- > From: m.bloomquist > To: [Woodcarver] > Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 12:39:19 PM > Subject: [Woodcarver] New Woodspirit > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop > at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > Hey Gang, > > It's been a long time since I updated my website... found my website skills > very, very rusty. The web-site itself is due for a face lift, but there's > no time for that yet. Anyway, this link should take you right to the new > stuff... > > http://www.woodendreamz.com/Image28.htm#woodspirit > > Keep on Carvin' > -Mike B.-> > Wooden Dreams Woodcarving > http://www.woodendreamz.com From whitwood at fairpoint.net Sun Mar 8 14:45:14 2009 From: whitwood at fairpoint.net (Marcia Berkall) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:45:14 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Sunday Woodcarver Chat Message-ID: <20090308184513.1DFAF2909F9@smtp1.av-mx.com> Join in on the fun!!! For informative and fun REAL TIME conversations with a number of the carvers on "The List", come to the Woodcarver chats. We don't always talk about carving, but if anyone has a question or comment, we can get serious in a hurry. Get to know the people behind the names. And bring you carving questions with you!!! We meet on Wednesday nights at 9:30 PM Eastern and on Sundays at 4:30 PM Eastern. If you are NOT using an IRC chat program, I think you will like these simplified instructions!!! Just click on one of the links below...either will take you directly to #Woodcarverchat http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_williamslake.html?chan=#Woodcarverchat http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_stopover.html?chan=#woodcarverchat This may take a LONG time to load!!!!!!! Don't give up. When it finally does load, you will be asked to type in a nickname.....then click connect, and wait a little bit longer. The chat screen will open. Type something in the narrow horizontal space just below the chat screen and hit you enter key. Nothing to it! :) If you are using WebTV or still have trouble getting there, one of these links will work...we just save them as a last resort in case all other links don't work: http://63.79.14.90/cgi-bin/irc.cgi http://cobra-ip1.vipershells.com/cgi-bin/irc.cgi http://stopover.ky.us.starlink-irc.org/cgi-bin/irc.cgi (This one will have the fastest connection) Type in a nickname where it says"nickname"i Where is says, "channel", type in #woodcarverchat (don't forget the #). ******* If you are using an mIRC chat program: 1. Log onto your ISP. 2. Open mIRC. You should see a box "mIRC Options". If you don't then click on View then on "Options" Fill in the information there...you do NOT have to put in your real name or email address. For security purposes, make them up. Do put in the nickname you want and an alternative. 4. Click on the button with the sunburst icon, just to the right of the button that says, "Connect to Server". Where it says "IRC Network", scroll down until you see "Starlink-IRC" and highlight that so it shows in the window. There is also a Starlink network, so make sure that the one you select has the "IRC" after it. Now click on the arrow next to the IRC server window. That will list a number of Starlink-IRC servers....select one of them. The Starlink-IRC random server will automatically pick one of the servers for you, so you can use that one. With one of the Starlink-IRC servers in the window, click on "Connect to Server" If the Starlink Random Server is not in your mirc program you can add it: Click the "add" button. Where it says "Description" type "Starlink Random Server" Where it says "IRC Server" type IRC.STARLINK-IRC.ORG Port should be 6664,6665,6666,6667,6668,6669 (all of those with no spaces between them) and "Group" is Starlink-IRC 5. Once connected, you'll see lots of scrolling text. 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Not to often you see a lady spirit and I think it looks great! Corey On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 12:39 PM, m.bloomquist wrote: > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > > Hey Gang, > > It's been a long time since I updated my website... found my website skills > very, very rusty. The web-site itself is due for a face lift, but there's > no time for that yet. Anyway, this link should take you right to the new > stuff... > > http://www.woodendreamz.com/Image28.htm#woodspirit > > Keep on Carvin' > -Mike B.-> > Wooden Dreams Woodcarving > http://www.woodendreamz.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > -- Corey IowaCarver http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ http://picasaweb.google.com/IowaWoodCarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Matt Kelley From wdcvrrip at comcast.net Sun Mar 8 20:47:11 2009 From: wdcvrrip at comcast.net (WdcvrRip%40comcast.net) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 00:47:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Woodcarver] Test - please ignore In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1703287371.210941236559631792.JavaMail.root@sz0029a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Hi Matt You arrived at this e-mail OK Rip Stangroom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Kelley" To: "Woodcarver List" Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 7:38:49 PM (GMT-0500) Auto-Detected Subject: [Woodcarver] Test - please ignore Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Just a test to see if this email addy is correctly subscribed Matt Kelley _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: Jan Oegema To: woodcarvingfun at yahoogroups.com ; woodcarver at carverscompanion.com ; HouseOfWoodCarving at yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:35 AM Subject: [Woodcarver] LATEST CARVINGS Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Placed 2 carvings in #2 (Latest) PT Album Sorry to say that for the second picture you have to lay down as I could NOT for the live of it turn that Whaletooth upright First carving is Butternut 20" x23" x1 1/2 " whaletooth is bleached basswood 6 x3 1 1/2 x 3 deep Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219671244x1201345076/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.bloomquist at woodendreamz.com Mon Mar 9 20:23:35 2009 From: m.bloomquist at woodendreamz.com (m.bloomquist) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 20:23:35 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] New Woodspirit In-Reply-To: <559696.32475.qm@web54307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks everyone... it's nice to have stuff (and time) to show off again . And Donna, thank you for the comment on the horizontal "imp". I was going to ask you which one, and realized I had more updating to do. See what you think of this one http://www.woodendreamz.com/Image28.htm#greenman Keep on Carvin' -Mike B.-> -----Original Message----- From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Donna Menke Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 2:44 PM To: [Woodcarver] Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] New Woodspirit Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Mike- I think you have that green man stuff down pat. Gotta tell you though that my favorite- by a big margin- is the horizontal imp. You should have those cast in something permanent and I'd bet you would get a lot of people who would like to put them in their flower beds. What a kick. The site looks real nice- good size on the photos. I'm redoing my site as we speak- and deciding what to put where and how big to make things are major decisions. I'll post here when it is ready for prime time. Donna Menke http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book ----- Original Message ---- > From: m.bloomquist > To: [Woodcarver] > Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 12:39:19 PM > Subject: [Woodcarver] New Woodspirit > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop > at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > Hey Gang, > > It's been a long time since I updated my website... found my website skills > very, very rusty. The web-site itself is due for a face lift, but there's > no time for that yet. Anyway, this link should take you right to the new > stuff... > > http://www.woodendreamz.com/Image28.htm#woodspirit > > Keep on Carvin' > -Mike B.-> > Wooden Dreams Woodcarving > http://www.woodendreamz.com _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From brigdon at tvcc.edu Mon Mar 9 20:49:38 2009 From: brigdon at tvcc.edu (Brigdon, Floyd) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 19:49:38 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] New Woodspirit In-Reply-To: References: <559696.32475.qm@web54307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I like that a bunch, Mike. Good job! Floyd -----Original Message----- From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of m.bloomquist Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 7:24 PM Thanks everyone... it's nice to have stuff (and time) to show off again . And Donna, thank you for the comment on the horizontal "imp". I was going to ask you which one, and realized I had more updating to do. See what you think of this one http://www.woodendreamz.com/Image28.htm#greenman Keep on Carvin' -Mike B.-> info/woodcarver From vhamburg at bellatlantic.net Mon Mar 9 22:15:16 2009 From: vhamburg at bellatlantic.net (Vic & Cynthia Hamburger) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 22:15:16 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] split mandrels and sanding cones - again Message-ID: <49B5CD34.8070204@bellatlantic.net> Hi Gang, Thanks for all your comments about the split mandrels and sanding cones from my previous question. Unfortunately, I immediately stopped receiving the digest format each day so only saw your answers tonight after getting the last few days of postings. What I have already is the split mandrel model M23 from Foredom, as well as the spiral sanding cones in several grits. What I can't do is mount those sanding cones onto the split mandrel. The sandpaper will not slide easily into the slot of the mandrel. No one really addressed how they mount these sanding cones, can anyone help? (without waking sleeping Big Dogs?? LOL!! Thanks much!! Vic H From bremmers at midwestinfo.com Mon Mar 9 23:13:16 2009 From: bremmers at midwestinfo.com (Gene and Darlene Bremmer) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 22:13:16 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] split mandrels and sanding cones - again References: <49B5CD34.8070204@bellatlantic.net> Message-ID: <697D3623413B47089D9189819B91ADE3@bremmers> Hi Vic Well, the ones that I have are the Gugesanders (the cones) with the piece of sandpaper running across them as you described. When I want to slide them on the mandrels, I just carefully line up the piece of sand paper with the slot in the mandrel. They do not slide on very far, maybe only 3/8 of an inch or at most 1/2 inch but they do not come off when sanding. Maybe you are thinking they should go on a long ways, I don't know. Sorry I can't help more. I am also sending this to you direct so you will see it sooner before the digest comes out. Gene Picturetrail Album at: http://picturetrail.com/bremmers Email bremmers at midwestinfo.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Vic & Cynthia Hamburger To: [Woodcarver] Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 9:15 PM Subject: [Woodcarver] split mandrels and sanding cones - again Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Hi Gang, Thanks for all your comments about the split mandrels and sanding cones from my previous question. Unfortunately, I immediately stopped receiving the digest format each day so only saw your answers tonight after getting the last few days of postings. What I have already is the split mandrel model M23 from Foredom, as well as the spiral sanding cones in several grits. What I can't do is mount those sanding cones onto the split mandrel. The sandpaper will not slide easily into the slot of the mandrel. No one really addressed how they mount these sanding cones, can anyone help? (without waking sleeping Big Dogs?? LOL!! Thanks much!! Vic H _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1991 - Release Date: 03/09/09 07:14:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jackcarves at juno.com Tue Mar 10 01:41:08 2009 From: jackcarves at juno.com (jackcarves at juno.com) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 21:41:08 -0800 Subject: [Woodcarver] New Woodspirit Message-ID: <20090309.214142.-3751731.0.jackcarves@juno.com> Hi Mike and everyone. I, too, have added some pictures to my picturetrail site. They are under the album titled most recent carvings. Let me know what you think. Jack Miller Please visit my new Picturetrail album at http://www.picturetrail.com/carvingjack. Carvingjack Miller Hanover, PA ____________________________________________________________ Digital Photography - Click Now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTDvmSogQTa0qCunZURmm4Wejrz78p2F4lGzBBbK4XHHSAL3WXsEq0/ From iowawoodcarver at gmail.com Mon Mar 9 23:30:24 2009 From: iowawoodcarver at gmail.com (Corey Hallagan) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 22:30:24 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] New Woodspirit In-Reply-To: <20090309.214142.-3751731.0.jackcarves@juno.com> References: <20090309.214142.-3751731.0.jackcarves@juno.com> Message-ID: <49d3fd9d0903092030v53045054t946f96a808c1c20c@mail.gmail.com> Love your bird carvings Jack, really nice work! Corey On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 12:41 AM, wrote: > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > Hi Mike and everyone. I, too, have added some pictures to my > picturetrail site. They are under the album titled most recent carvings. > Let me know what you think. > Jack Miller > > > Please visit my new Picturetrail album at > http://www.picturetrail.com/carvingjack. > Carvingjack Miller > Hanover, PA > > ____________________________________________________________ > Digital Photography - Click Now. > > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTDvmSogQTa0qCunZURmm4Wejrz78p2F4lGzBBbK4XHHSAL3WXsEq0/ > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > -- Corey IowaCarver http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ http://picasaweb.google.com/IowaWoodCarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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See what you think of this one http://www.woodendreamz.com/Image28.htm#greenman Keep on Carvin' -Mike B.-> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ You sure have a weird mind Mike (LOL) Thanks for proving that to us and thanks for sharing the GREEN man ( Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf From jancarves3 at rogers.com Tue Mar 10 05:24:32 2009 From: jancarves3 at rogers.com (Jan Oegema) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 05:24:32 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] New Woodspirit References: <20090309.214142.-3751731.0.jackcarves@juno.com> Message-ID: <7B5CFD62A3C74901B551E4D64632F9FD@your27e1513d96> Let me know what you think. Jack Miller Please visit my new Picturetrail album at http://www.picturetrail.com/carvingjack. Carvingjack Miller Hanover, PA +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ WOW!!! Jack 12 years ago "Who wood have tunk" Thanks for sharing Hope to see you at the end of May at the Lancaster carving show You. Mike ,and I can go throwing peanuts again Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf From m.bloomquist at woodendreamz.com Tue Mar 10 06:53:17 2009 From: m.bloomquist at woodendreamz.com (m.bloomquist) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:53:17 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] New Woodspirit In-Reply-To: <3BDC5EE1576942979EEE75288BB58103@your27e1513d96> Message-ID: Jan, Thanx... I think. It's not that weird really... just a bit "twisted" at times . I hope to try that last one again and make the hands a little more "entish"... more like limbs and twigs. Keep on Carvin' -Mike B.-> -----Original Message----- From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Jan Oegema Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 5:07 AM To: [Woodcarver] Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] New Woodspirit Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving I was going to ask you which one, and realized I had more updating to do. See what you think of this one http://www.woodendreamz.com/Image28.htm#greenman Keep on Carvin' -Mike B.-> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ You sure have a weird mind Mike (LOL) Thanks for proving that to us and thanks for sharing the GREEN man ( Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From m.bloomquist at woodendreamz.com Tue Mar 10 06:57:55 2009 From: m.bloomquist at woodendreamz.com (m.bloomquist) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:57:55 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Jacks New Stuff In-Reply-To: <20090309.214142.-3751731.0.jackcarves@juno.com> Message-ID: Jack, You've been busy. I like all your birds, but the long billed curlew is my favorite. See you in Lancaster? Keep on Carvin' -Mike B.-> Wooden Dreams Woodcarving http://www.woodendreamz.com -----Original Message----- From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of jackcarves at juno.com Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:41 AM To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] New Woodspirit Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Hi Mike and everyone. I, too, have added some pictures to my picturetrail site. They are under the album titled most recent carvings. Let me know what you think. Jack Miller Please visit my new Picturetrail album at http://www.picturetrail.com/carvingjack. Carvingjack Miller Hanover, PA ____________________________________________________________ Digital Photography - Click Now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTDvmSogQTa0qCunZURmm4Wejrz 78p2F4lGzBBbK4XHHSAL3WXsEq0/ _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From jackcarves at juno.com Tue Mar 10 07:50:40 2009 From: jackcarves at juno.com (jackcarves at juno.com) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:50:40 GMT Subject: [Woodcarver] New Woodspirit Message-ID: <20090310.075040.24018.0@webmail18.dca.untd.com> Jan, my wife and came by that Texas Roadhouse Restaurant thios weekend and I had visions of the peanuts flying. Jack Miller ____________________________________________________________ Click here to find the perfect picture with our powerful photo search features. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTEuJFIBEFwzi7WdSl36sRji5sAfkChpuv4SiGJE2RVAOArXVFsAes/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jancarves3 at rogers.com Tue Mar 10 08:11:39 2009 From: jancarves3 at rogers.com (Jan Oegema) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:11:39 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] New Woodspirit References: Message-ID: <6B62CB876DB64FC9B61E7797AEBFBBE7@your27e1513d96> I hope to try that last one again and make the hands a little more "entish"... more like limbs and twigs. Keep on Carvin' -Mike B.-> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Sounds like a plan Why didnt I think of that !!??? DON"T ANSWER!! Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf From jancarves3 at rogers.com Tue Mar 10 08:14:39 2009 From: jancarves3 at rogers.com (Jan Oegema) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:14:39 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] New Woodspirit References: <20090310.075040.24018.0@webmail18.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: Jan, my wife and came by that Texas Roadhouse Restaurant thios weekend and I had visions of the peanuts flying. Jack Miller ++++++++++++++++++++ Those were the good ol' days But you did NOT answer my question are you or are you NOT coming to Lancaster?? I'll be there hopefully for 4 days Two at the show and two teaching Lawn chair carving Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donpbk at yahoo.com Tue Mar 10 11:19:07 2009 From: donpbk at yahoo.com (Donna Menke) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:19:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] New Woodspirit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <933988.46006.qm@web54306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> That one is good too- but I liked the simple lines and impishness of the other one a bit better. The message came across faster- if you know what I mean. Donna Menke http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book ----- Original Message ---- > From: m.bloomquist > To: [Woodcarver] > Sent: Monday, March 9, 2009 7:23:35 PM > Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] New Woodspirit > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop > at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > Thanks everyone... it's nice to have stuff (and time) to show off again . > > And Donna, thank you for the comment on the horizontal "imp". I was going > to ask you which one, and realized I had more updating to do. See what you > think of this one > > http://www.woodendreamz.com/Image28.htm#greenman > > Keep on Carvin' > -Mike B.-> > > > -----Original Message----- > From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com > [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Donna Menke > Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 2:44 PM > To: [Woodcarver] > Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] New Woodspirit > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > > Mike- > I think you have that green man stuff down pat. Gotta tell you though that > my favorite- by a big margin- is the horizontal imp. You should have those > cast in something permanent and I'd bet you would get a lot of people who > would like to put them in their flower beds. What a kick. > > The site looks real nice- good size on the photos. I'm redoing my site as we > speak- and deciding what to put where and how big to make things are major > decisions. > I'll post here when it is ready for prime time. > Donna Menke > http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com > Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: m.bloomquist > > To: [Woodcarver] > > Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 12:39:19 PM > > Subject: [Woodcarver] New Woodspirit > > > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop > > at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > > > > Hey Gang, > > > > It's been a long time since I updated my website... found my website > skills > > very, very rusty. The web-site itself is due for a face lift, but there's > > no time for that yet. Anyway, this link should take you right to the new > > stuff... > > > > http://www.woodendreamz.com/Image28.htm#woodspirit > > > > Keep on Carvin' > > -Mike B.-> > > Wooden Dreams Woodcarving > > http://www.woodendreamz.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From jdillett at thecarvingshop.net Tue Mar 10 12:07:15 2009 From: jdillett at thecarvingshop.net (Joe Dillett) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:07:15 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] New Woodspirit References: Message-ID: <395813E18E4C4F5CA0429F37069CE8FE@Joe> Great work Mike. Awesome expressions you get. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "m.bloomquist" To: "'[Woodcarver]'" Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] New Woodspirit > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > Thanks everyone... it's nice to have stuff (and time) to show off again > . > > And Donna, thank you for the comment on the horizontal "imp". I was going > to ask you which one, and realized I had more updating to do. See what > you > think of this one > > http://www.woodendreamz.com/Image28.htm#greenman > > Keep on Carvin' > -Mike B.-> > > > -----Original Message----- > From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com > [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Donna Menke > Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 2:44 PM > To: [Woodcarver] > Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] New Woodspirit > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > > Mike- > I think you have that green man stuff down pat. Gotta tell you though that > my favorite- by a big margin- is the horizontal imp. You should have those > cast in something permanent and I'd bet you would get a lot of people who > would like to put them in their flower beds. What a kick. > > The site looks real nice- good size on the photos. I'm redoing my site as > we > speak- and deciding what to put where and how big to make things are major > decisions. > I'll post here when it is ready for prime time. > Donna Menke > http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com > Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book > > > > ----- Original Message ---- >> From: m.bloomquist >> To: [Woodcarver] >> Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 12:39:19 PM >> Subject: [Woodcarver] New Woodspirit >> >> Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' >> Campanion > Shop >> at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving >> >> >> Hey Gang, >> >> It's been a long time since I updated my website... found my website > skills >> very, very rusty. The web-site itself is due for a face lift, but >> there's >> no time for that yet. Anyway, this link should take you right to the new >> stuff... >> >> http://www.woodendreamz.com/Image28.htm#woodspirit >> >> Keep on Carvin' >> -Mike B.-> >> Wooden Dreams Woodcarving >> http://www.woodendreamz.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From jdillett at thecarvingshop.net Tue Mar 10 12:11:27 2009 From: jdillett at thecarvingshop.net (Joe Dillett) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:11:27 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] New Woodspirit References: <20090309.214142.-3751731.0.jackcarves@juno.com> Message-ID: <927F9D198D504498B893E260AFC52431@Joe> Awesome Kestrel Jack. That one'll fly away for sure. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 12:41 AM Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] New Woodspirit > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > Hi Mike and everyone. I, too, have added some pictures to my > picturetrail site. They are under the album titled most recent carvings. > Let me know what you think. > Jack Miller > > > Please visit my new Picturetrail album at > http://www.picturetrail.com/carvingjack. > Carvingjack Miller > Hanover, PA > > ____________________________________________________________ > Digital Photography - Click Now. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTDvmSogQTa0qCunZURmm4Wejrz78p2F4lGzBBbK4XHHSAL3WXsEq0/ > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > From thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com Tue Mar 10 13:04:59 2009 From: thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com (Larry Yudis) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:04:59 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] split mandrels and sanding cones - again In-Reply-To: <49B5CD34.8070204@bellatlantic.net> Message-ID: <20090310170511.8D2BEE9D2E@mailwash34.pair.com> Hey Mr. Hamburgler, With all that noise this sleeping BIG DOG couldn't help but wake up! :o) Take a look at this link: http://www.thewoodcraftshop.com/store/p/1210-1-8-X-1-MANDREL-1-8-SHANK-FOR-1-1-2 -ROLLS.html Are those the spiral sanding cones you are referring to??? If so, then one of the mandrels shown is probably what you need. Those type of sanding cones won't work on the M-23 split mandrel from Foredom. Now ... let me get back to my nap! Larry (BIG DOG) Yudis The Woodcraft Shop 2724 State St Bettendorf, IA 52722 800-397-2278 www.thewoodcraftshop.com Carol and Larry Yudis, Show Chairs International Woodcarvers Congress Affiliated Wood Carvers, Ltd. PO Box 104 Bettendorf, IA 52722 563-359-9684 (days) 563-355-3787 (evenings) www.awcltd.org -----Original Message----- From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Vic & Cynthia Hamburger Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 9:15 PM To: [Woodcarver] Subject: [Woodcarver] split mandrels and sanding cones - again Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Hi Gang, Thanks for all your comments about the split mandrels and sanding cones from my previous question. Unfortunately, I immediately stopped receiving the digest format each day so only saw your answers tonight after getting the last few days of postings. What I have already is the split mandrel model M23 from Foredom, as well as the spiral sanding cones in several grits. What I can't do is mount those sanding cones onto the split mandrel. The sandpaper will not slide easily into the slot of the mandrel. No one really addressed how they mount these sanding cones, can anyone help? (without waking sleeping Big Dogs?? LOL!! Thanks much!! Vic H _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From whitwood at fairpoint.net Wed Mar 11 18:01:11 2009 From: whitwood at fairpoint.net (Marcia Berkall) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:01:11 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Wednesday Woodcarver Chat Message-ID: <20090311220116.32F6329086D@smtp1.av-mx.com> Join in on the fun!!! For informative and fun REAL TIME conversations with a number of the carvers on "The List", come to the Woodcarver chats. We don't always talk about carving, but if anyone has a question or comment, we can get serious in a hurry. Get to know the people behind the names. And bring you carving questions with you!!! We meet on Wednesday nights at 9:30 PM Eastern and on Sundays at 4:30 PM Eastern. If you are NOT using an IRC chat program, I think you will like these simplified instructions!!! Just click on one of the links below...either will take you directly to #Woodcarverchat http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_williamslake.html?chan=#Woodcarverchat http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_stopover.html?chan=#woodcarverchat This may take a LONG time to load!!!!!!! Don't give up. When it finally does load, you will be asked to type in a nickname.....then click connect, and wait a little bit longer. The chat screen will open. Type something in the narrow horizontal space just below the chat screen and hit you enter key. Nothing to it! :) If you are using WebTV or still have trouble getting there, one of these links will work...we just save them as a last resort in case all other links don't work: http://63.79.14.90/cgi-bin/irc.cgi http://cobra-ip1.vipershells.com/cgi-bin/irc.cgi http://stopover.ky.us.starlink-irc.org/cgi-bin/irc.cgi (This one will have the fastest connection) Type in a nickname where it says"nickname"i Where is says, "channel", type in #woodcarverchat (don't forget the #). ******* If you are using an mIRC chat program: 1. Log onto your ISP. 2. Open mIRC. You should see a box "mIRC Options". If you don't then click on View then on "Options" Fill in the information there...you do NOT have to put in your real name or email address. For security purposes, make them up. Do put in the nickname you want and an alternative. 4. Click on the button with the sunburst icon, just to the right of the button that says, "Connect to Server". Where it says "IRC Network", scroll down until you see "Starlink-IRC" and highlight that so it shows in the window. There is also a Starlink network, so make sure that the one you select has the "IRC" after it. Now click on the arrow next to the IRC server window. That will list a number of Starlink-IRC servers....select one of them. The Starlink-IRC random server will automatically pick one of the servers for you, so you can use that one. With one of the Starlink-IRC servers in the window, click on "Connect to Server" If the Starlink Random Server is not in your mirc program you can add it: Click the "add" button. Where it says "Description" type "Starlink Random Server" Where it says "IRC Server" type IRC.STARLINK-IRC.ORG Port should be 6664,6665,6666,6667,6668,6669 (all of those with no spaces between them) and "Group" is Starlink-IRC 5. 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Message-ID: <21753A3C-81B1-45D8-9B0B-E00B8DF7AB15@me.com> ...I should be able to hit the right button on this thing - or maybe not. In any event, even if I can't type, I can hear the faint sounds of tools being sharpened. What are you working on? What is the burning woodcarving question of the day on the cold, blustery morn? Matt Kelley Matt Kelley From Linehan718 at aol.com Thu Mar 12 05:36:29 2009 From: Linehan718 at aol.com (Linehan718 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 05:36:29 EDT Subject: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... Message-ID: In a message dated 3/12/2009 5:31:04 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ce ltcarver at me.com writes: In any event, even if I can't type, I can hear the faint sounds of tools being sharpened. What are you working on? What is the burning woodcarving question of the day on the cold, blustery morn? Matt Kelley I am as always carving more mini wolves (3/4" tall) , have done about 200 at this point, people keep buying and I will keep carving. My question of the day will be "what is the best compound to use on a leather strop" Is it aluminum oxide??? I have heard baby powder is excellent. Does anybody have any knowledge of that??? Maura _www.Carvinginnyc.com_ (http://www.carvinginnyc.com/) **************Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. (http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/growing-job-industries?ncid=emlcntuscare00000002) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Linehan718 at aol.com Thu Mar 12 05:40:14 2009 From: Linehan718 at aol.com (Linehan718 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 05:40:14 EDT Subject: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... Message-ID: Almost 6 am here in NYC and answering list questions. This is truly the city that never sleeps. Also contemplating a move which will get me back into a decent sized shop again. It has been hard working in an apartment and borrowing a friends shop for the bigger things. Possibly moving into a house again so I can have a dedicated workroom again. Keeping my fingers crossed but dreading the upheaval of moving. Maura _www.Carvinginnyc.com_ (http://www.carvinginnyc.com/) **************Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. (http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/growing-job-industries?ncid=emlcntuscare00000002) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jancarves3 at rogers.com Thu Mar 12 05:48:20 2009 From: jancarves3 at rogers.com (Jan Oegema) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 05:48:20 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... References: <21753A3C-81B1-45D8-9B0B-E00B8DF7AB15@me.com> Message-ID: <17650F16D7944F8D8E4B377B14F55CD5@your27e1513d96> In any event, even if I can't type, I can hear the faint sounds of tools being sharpened. What are you working on? What is the burning woodcarving question of the day on the cold, blustery morn? Matt Kelley ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I am having a great cup of coffee Matt What happen to YOU being up at this ungodly time of day ? Pissed the bed ?? Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf From jancarves3 at rogers.com Thu Mar 12 05:49:43 2009 From: jancarves3 at rogers.com (Jan Oegema) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 05:49:43 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... References: Message-ID: <99C79BAF5E3F448A8BA86C6E9FC04748@your27e1513d96> Keeping my fingers crossed but dreading the upheaval of moving. Maura +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++|MATT will help you move Maura Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Linehan718 at aol.com Thu Mar 12 05:51:33 2009 From: Linehan718 at aol.com (Linehan718 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 05:51:33 EDT Subject: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... Message-ID: Thanks Jan, that's what friends are for. Maura _www.Carvinginnyc.com_ (http://www.carvinginnyc.com/) **************Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. 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Matt Kelley On Mar 12, 2009, at 5:48 AM, Jan wrote on part: > > Matt Kelley > > I am having a great cup of coffee Matt What happen to YOU being up > at this ungodly time of day ? > Woodbutcher Jan > From charlyg5 at att.net Thu Mar 12 06:03:08 2009 From: charlyg5 at att.net (Charley) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 03:03:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... References: <99C79BAF5E3F448A8BA86C6E9FC04748@your27e1513d96> Message-ID: <36190.37258.qm@web82102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Why pray tell are any of us up so early?The only reason I can think of is to wish Maura good luck. I'm doing my favorite thing SANDING on little birds I make Charley ________________________________ From: Jan Oegema To: [Woodcarver] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 5:49:43 AM Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Keeping my fingers crossed but dreading the upheaval of moving. Maura +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++|MATT will help you move Maura Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dge1 at comcast.net Thu Mar 12 06:32:13 2009 From: dge1 at comcast.net (Doug Evans) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 06:32:13 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <004a01c9a2fd$cef18490$6cd48db0$@net> Heck, I slept in . Special type of dragon this morning. Normally up at 5:45 bit got lazy until 6:10. DougE -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fstuppy at hmc.psu.edu Thu Mar 12 07:57:13 2009 From: fstuppy at hmc.psu.edu (Fred Stuppy) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:57:13 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49B8C05A.5A99.0095.0@hmc.psu.edu> Do you have pictures >>> 3/12/2009 5:36 AM >>> Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving From jdillett at thecarvingshop.net Thu Mar 12 10:14:19 2009 From: jdillett at thecarvingshop.net (Joe Dillett) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:14:19 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] H Even at this unnatural hour ... References: Message-ID: <86C7935B431149C5A6769F17A6BCB898@Joe> Maura, I wish you luck on the move. An adequate size shop is important. Here's my opinion to your question, "what is the best compound to use on a leather strop?" I prefer the green compound. At one of our GOW's we tested the green against the Yellow Stone. We tried to control the variables as much as possible following the directions on both. In the end we all decided that there wasn't any difference, both yielded good results. I believe both are 1/2 micron particles of aluminum oxide for the abrasive with different binders. 1/2 micron is not quite optical quality because if used on glass it does cloud. In the buffing section of most hardware stores you can get sticks of buffing compound for Plexiglas and glass that is about 1/4 micron, which appears to be optical quality because it will not cloud glass. I feel that the 1/4 micron would produce a finer edge on our carving tools but would not be worth taking almost twice the time for polishing where the 1/2 micron does a good enough job, on our tools, for even the softest of woods. I have tried the powdered aluminum oxide (jewelers quality 1/4 micron) with success as well as the larger sticks of the cheaper white compound, and the compounds found in the buffing section at most hardware stores and prefer the green compound over all of those. My preference is based on ease of use (just rub it on), how it holds to the leather or any other substrate, overall cost (one stick lasts a very long time) and especially how quickly it polishes. I've never heard of using baby powder for buffing (just babies in the buff) but I have heard of toothpaste as a substitute for buffing compound. My feelings on that is I would rather take advantage of all the testing those companies did, experimenting with hundreds of materials to engineer a high quality product. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: Linehan718 at aol.com To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 4:36 AM Subject: Spam:****, Re: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ In a message dated 3/12/2009 5:31:04 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, celtcarver at me.com writes: In any event, even if I can't type, I can hear the faint sounds of tools being sharpened. What are you working on? What is the burning woodcarving question of the day on the cold, blustery morn? Matt Kelley I am as always carving more mini wolves (3/4" tall) , have done about 200 at this point, people keep buying and I will keep carving. My question of the day will be "what is the best compound to use on a leather strop" Is it aluminum oxide??? I have heard baby powder is excellent. Does anybody have any knowledge of that??? Maura www.Carvinginnyc.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdillett at thecarvingshop.net Thu Mar 12 10:28:34 2009 From: jdillett at thecarvingshop.net (Joe Dillett) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:28:34 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... References: <21753A3C-81B1-45D8-9B0B-E00B8DF7AB15@me.com> Message-ID: <1D4FFC56A01D4732AE4402478DB41AD7@Joe> Hi Matt, Since retirement I been sleeping late. Last night was my second clay throwing class. I'm having a lot of fun trying to make a bowl of some sort and developed a new respect for the clay artist. In 3 weeks we start the sculpture portion of the class. As far as carving, I'm working on a 5-foot Last Supper for an altar in a new church. I will be doing the pulpit and stations of the cross over the next year while the church is under construction. I am teaching some disabled veterans and looking for more who are interested in learning how to carve. I'm helping my apprentices get their businesses going by working shows with them. We did home improvement show one last weekend and I have another scheduled for next weekend. I'm also planning GOW 2009 (week of September 28th). We are making a booklet of 'Tips That Made Me A Better Carver' for the GOW. For a chance to win prizes, and get a booklet, send your tips to me. See http://www.camperjohn.com/gow/ for more information on GOW 2009 and how to submit your tips. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Kelley" To: "Woodcarver List" Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 4:30 AM Subject: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > ...I should be able to hit the right button on this thing - or maybe not. > > In any event, even if I can't type, I can hear the faint sounds of tools > being sharpened. What are you working on? What is the burning woodcarving > question of the day on the cold, blustery morn? > > > Matt Kelley > > > > Matt Kelley > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > From dickfaulkner at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 12 10:40:57 2009 From: dickfaulkner at sbcglobal.net (Richard Faulkner) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:40:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... References: Message-ID: <756100.43857.qm@web81501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Aluminum Oxide is an extremely good stropping compound as it is "harder" than steel and is very fine so that it polishes as you strop. Baby powder is made with either talc or corn starch both of which are soft materials so when you strop with these, nothing happens. Dick Faulkner - Woapalanne Woodcarving ________________________________ From: "Linehan718 at aol.com" To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 4:36:29 AM Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving In a message dated 3/12/2009 5:31:04 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, celtcarver at me.com writes: In any event, even if I can't type, I can hear the faint sounds of tools being sharpened. What are you working on? What is the burning woodcarving question of the day on the cold, blustery morn? Matt Kelley I am as always carving more mini wolves (3/4" tall) , have done about 200 at this point, people keep buying and I will keep carving. My question of the day will be "what is the best compound to use on a leather strop" Is it aluminum oxide??? I have heard baby powder is excellent. Does anybody have any knowledge of that??? Maura www.Carvinginnyc.com ________________________________ Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chrishoward307 at bellsouth.net Thu Mar 12 10:54:09 2009 From: chrishoward307 at bellsouth.net (Chris Howard) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:54:09 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] H Even at this unnatural hour ... References: <86C7935B431149C5A6769F17A6BCB898@Joe> Message-ID: <004501c9a322$670053a0$6101a8c0@chris112005> Joe, For myself any of the jewelers compounds are great for polishing metal, what I know from experience in sand blasting aluminum oxide is what I have used to etch glass. I have always said its hard to beat a man at what he makes a living at so the white compound John Dunkle uses and Yellow Stone are close his Dad I believe came up with the Yellow Stone and they both work well. As far as carving I am working on Wood Spirits and 1/2 log wall hanging for shops here in town and E-bay been doing 2 Wood Spirits a day or 1 Native, doing the small ones are good practice been trying to refine women's features some. Chris Howard ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Dillett To: [Woodcarver] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] H Even at this unnatural hour ... Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maura, I wish you luck on the move. An adequate size shop is important. Here's my opinion to your question, "what is the best compound to use on a leather strop?" I prefer the green compound. At one of our GOW's we tested the green against the Yellow Stone. We tried to control the variables as much as possible following the directions on both. In the end we all decided that there wasn't any difference, both yielded good results. I believe both are 1/2 micron particles of aluminum oxide for the abrasive with different binders. 1/2 micron is not quite optical quality because if used on glass it does cloud. In the buffing section of most hardware stores you can get sticks of buffing compound for Plexiglas and glass that is about 1/4 micron, which appears to be optical quality because it will not cloud glass. I feel that the 1/4 micron would produce a finer edge on our carving tools but would not be worth taking almost twice the time for polishing where the 1/2 micron does a good enough job, on our tools, for even the softest of woods. I have tried the powdered aluminum oxide (jewelers quality 1/4 micron) with success as well as the larger sticks of the cheaper white compound, and the compounds found in the buffing section at most hardware stores and prefer the green compound over all of those. My preference is based on ease of use (just rub it on), how it holds to the leather or any other substrate, overall cost (one stick lasts a very long time) and especially how quickly it polishes. I've never heard of using baby powder for buffing (just babies in the buff) but I have heard of toothpaste as a substitute for buffing compound. My feelings on that is I would rather take advantage of all the testing those companies did, experimenting with hundreds of materials to engineer a high quality product. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: Linehan718 at aol.com To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 4:36 AM Subject: Spam:****, Re: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- In a message dated 3/12/2009 5:31:04 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, celtcarver at me.com writes: In any event, even if I can't type, I can hear the faint sounds of tools being sharpened. What are you working on? What is the burning woodcarving question of the day on the cold, blustery morn? Matt Kelley I am as always carving more mini wolves (3/4" tall) , have done about 200 at this point, people keep buying and I will keep carving. My question of the day will be "what is the best compound to use on a leather strop" Is it aluminum oxide??? I have heard baby powder is excellent. Does anybody have any knowledge of that??? Maura www.Carvinginnyc.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Worried about job security? 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Eastern Daylight Time, fstuppy at hmc.psu.edu writes: Do you have pictures A picture of the wolves is on the front page of my website. _www.Carvinginnyc.com_ (http://www.Carvinginnyc.com) Keep in mind when you look at it that its only 3/4" tall Maura _www.Carvinginnyc.com_ (http://www.carvinginnyc.com/) **************Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. (http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/growing-job-industries?ncid=emlcntuscare00000002) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From elle123 at att.net Thu Mar 12 12:06:46 2009 From: elle123 at att.net (Elle Goggans) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] (no subject) Message-ID: <712533.90441.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> TAKE ME OFF YOUR LIST I AM GETTING TOO MANY EMAILS ABOUT THE SAME THING. Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass, It's about learning to dance in the rain Elle -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whitwood at fairpoint.net Thu Mar 12 12:11:50 2009 From: whitwood at fairpoint.net (Marcia Berkall) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:11:50 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... In-Reply-To: <21753A3C-81B1-45D8-9B0B-E00B8DF7AB15@me.com> References: <21753A3C-81B1-45D8-9B0B-E00B8DF7AB15@me.com> Message-ID: <20090312161152.70DCE1BF7E3@smtp0.av-mx.com> LOL I just have to chuckle when "fearless leader" hits the wrong button :) There are times when I might have caught you on the other end of the day...carving into the wee hours of the morning. I'm up to my eyeballs in work. I'm still working on the life size Maine Coon Cat carving. This has been a real stretch for me. (I love commissions for that reason.) Never have I done so much texturing! I hope to have that finished in the next few days, then turn my attention to painting it. I got side tracked from this carving for a while due to my husband's surgery back in October and then the holiday stuff. Fortunately this client has a "whenever it's ready" mentality about it, for which I am eternally grateful! I set up a blog for her to watch the progress, slow as it is. http://cahvah.wordpress.com/home/maine-coon-cat-carvingin-progress/ I'll probably be uploading a new picture in the next day or two. I have also completed another veteran's cane and am working on a wood spirit with a 250-year-old slab of wood that was raised from the bottom of the Penobscot River. It's part of a wood recovery program and this carving will become part of the heritage foundation collection. The theme has to be either Native American or logging related. I'm discovering some solutions for working with this old brittle wood and am documenting the progress for,hopefully,a future Carving Magazine Article. I'm also about to start teaching another Adult Ed 6-week Right Brain Drawing class next week. As for strop compounds, I haven't tried the green compound. I've pretty much stuck with the silicon carbide in oil suspension that one of my favorite knife makers uses. I guess I'm of the opinion that whatever works for you is the best one. That one doesn't work well on the buffing wheel, so I might give the green compound a try for that. Thanks, Matt, for getting this started! Marcia (aka Mush) South China, Maine See Marcia's wood carvings at: http://whittlinsnwood.com Blog: http://cahvah.wordpress.com/ ***** Affordable Web Page Design: http://artwebmaine.com ***** Get 20% Off CoffeeCup Web Design Software Use this code when you checkout: 226STS www.getcoffeecup.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mrchipps1 at comcast.net Thu Mar 12 12:18:44 2009 From: mrchipps1 at comcast.net (mrchipps1 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:18:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <149944454.3933701236874724996.JavaMail.root@sz0120a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Hi Matt, I?just started?carving a house in relief from a 5" x 6" x 3/4" piece of basswood.? I have the center line and the depth lines drawn around the sides of the basswood block and traced?the roughing out portion of the pattern on, and - roughed out the?sky. My burning question that I am?working on?is a method?to add a frame around the windows which are very small, 7/16" x 3/16".? My present thinking is to go to a craft store and purchase a plastic sheet with various squares and rectangles (if it exists) and?draw one rectangle inside a little larger one. The smaller one is the window itself which will be slightly hollowed out.? The larger one would be for the frame around it for which I would make a small stop?cut around the window. Dave Be still and know that I am God. Ps 46:10 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whitwood at fairpoint.net Thu Mar 12 12:27:37 2009 From: whitwood at fairpoint.net (Marcia Berkall) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:27:37 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090312162739.53945290C22@smtp1.av-mx.com> Maura., good luck with your move...it's nice to have a designated work area that works! Mush See Marcia's wood carvings at: http://whittlinsnwood.com Blog: http://cahvah.wordpress.com/ ***** Affordable Web Page Design: http://artwebmaine.com ***** Get 20% Off CoffeeCup Web Design Software Use this code when you checkout: 226STS www.getcoffeecup.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dougneely1 at rogers.com Thu Mar 12 12:34:47 2009 From: dougneely1 at rogers.com (dougneely1 at rogers.com) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:34:47 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] I agree Message-ID: <0EF1ECDEC1B549C3B36194ED31E555DD@Main1> TAKE ME OFF YOUR LIST I AM GETTING TOO MANY EMAILS ABOUT THE SAME THING. Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass, It's about learning to dance in the rain Elle ======================================================================== I agree,why do we always talk about woodcarving on this woodcarving forum? ;oP -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From charlyg5 at att.net Thu Mar 12 12:43:04 2009 From: charlyg5 at att.net (Charley) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:43:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] Fw: Even at this unnatural hour ... Message-ID: <804123.23544.qm@web82106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Charley ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Charley To: Linehan718 at aol.com Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:32:23 AM Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... just an idea I came up with last year camping. A small generic bird mounted on a small wooden dowl. Some I paint and some I make out of walnut or a pretty grained piece of wood I have found. Ladies put them in flower pots for decoration. Was setting at the camp and 3 ladies stopped to watch. When I told them what I was doing they each wanted 25 to give to there friend, I didn't want to do that many so I put the price at $25 ea. they never blinked. Charley ________________________________ From: "Linehan718 at aol.com" To: Charlyg5 at att.net Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:15:13 AM Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... In a message dated 3/12/2009 6:03:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, charlyg5 at att.net writes: Why pray tell are any of us up so early?The only reason I can think of is to wish Maura good luck. I'm doing my favorite thing SANDING on little birds I make Charley Thanks Charley, move won't happen for 6-8 weeks or so, plenty of time to contemplate it in the meantime. Can't wait to have a shop again!!! Maura is getting happy again. What kind of little birdies are you making?? Maura www.Carvinginnyc.com ________________________________ Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jackcarves at juno.com Thu Mar 12 12:59:51 2009 From: jackcarves at juno.com (jackcarves at juno.com) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:59:51 GMT Subject: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... Message-ID: <20090312.125951.20818.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com> Hey Maura, that's a really small wolf!!!!!!! How did you get started doing them? Regarding my activities I am right now teaching a group of twenty high school students in a three-D art class. I have them for one period a day. We're carving a miniature puffin smoothie with carver made feet and legs. They are doing pretty well, but it is a struggle trying to impress of the students the need for really sharp tools. I'm also scheduled to teach a two day class this weekend at my house on the same topic- a puffin. But this one will have crossed primaries along with the carver made feet and legs. There are still spaces in the class should anyone be interested. Other than that I continue to postpone my retirement and had to cancel my teaching plans for the Florida Roundup later this month because I didn't have enough leave built up from work. I really enjoyed teaching there last year but just can't make it this year. 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URL: From scrimshaw at aptalaska.net Thu Mar 12 16:50:14 2009 From: scrimshaw at aptalaska.net (Steve Lankerd Sr) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:50:14 -0800 Subject: [Woodcarver] I agree References: Message-ID: <9DF28B5B5D534294AE483F3C562BA627@zuke1> I agree Maura.... I rather enjoy the side tracks that you guys go on every now and then. It opens up personalities and sort of makes things seem "real". I don't know about anyone else but up here the politically correct side gets shot down pretty quick, not many appreciate those who candy coat reality. On the lighter side, I'm almost finished with a chip carved box and almost done making 5 or 6 knives. I'm halfway done with a whitetail deer scene on a gunstock and 3/4 done with 3 scrimshaw projects. Winters are long up here, it snowed all day yesterday.... :) Best Regards, Steve Steve Lankerd Sr Metlakatla, Alaska http://www.stevelankerdstudio.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Linehan718 at aol.com To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] I agree Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I find it funny, people complain when the list is quiet then you get a few people responding to a couple of posts (mostly woodcarving related) People are un subscribing. What gives with that? I think its true, we have sadly turned into a nation of whiners. Maura www.Carvinginnyc.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Worried about job security? 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Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From TheLeMarHerd at comcast.net Thu Mar 12 17:03:21 2009 From: TheLeMarHerd at comcast.net (TheLeMarHerd at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:03:21 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] I agree References: <9DF28B5B5D534294AE483F3C562BA627@zuke1> Message-ID: <0AFDFA72518249BA88EFF2DEFC24EF92@SNEAKERS> >From one of the quite ones, I enjoy reading each little tid bit you all toss out to one another. Seems like you have been friends for quite a while. Thanks Missi - N - Critters Whatever you do in life, enjoy the ride. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whitwood at fairpoint.net Thu Mar 12 17:05:51 2009 From: whitwood at fairpoint.net (Marcia Berkall) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:05:51 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] I agree In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090312210553.4C007290644@smtp1.av-mx.com> When there is active discussion, we all stand to learn something. I have to wonder what some people expect when they join a mailing list. It's been so slow lately, it's nice to see some activity. Marcia >I find it funny, people complain when the list is quiet then you get >a few people responding to a couple of posts (mostly woodcarving >related) People are un subscribing. What gives with that? I think >its true, we have sadly turned into a nation of whiners. > > >Maura >www.Carvinginnyc.com See Marcia's wood carvings at: http://whittlinsnwood.com Blog: http://cahvah.wordpress.com/ ***** Affordable Web Page Design: http://artwebmaine.com ***** Get 20% Off CoffeeCup Web Design Software Use this code when you checkout: 226STS www.getcoffeecup.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From charlyg5 at att.net Thu Mar 12 17:08:02 2009 From: charlyg5 at att.net (Charley) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:08:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] I agree References: <85B3BC6392AF40278653C926B5C520F0@your27e1513d96> Message-ID: <325741.24784.qm@web82101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> AMEN!!! Charley ________________________________ From: Jan Oegema To: [Woodcarver] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 4:57:35 PM Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] I agree Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving I find it funny, people complain when the list is quiet then you get a few people responding to a couple of posts (mostly woodcarving related) People are un subscribing. What gives with that? I think its true, we have sadly turned into a nation of whiners. Maura www.Carvinginnyc.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ AMEN!! Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From RayJ238 at aol.com Thu Mar 12 17:44:48 2009 From: RayJ238 at aol.com (Ray Johnson) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:44:48 -0700 Subject: [Woodcarver] I agree In-Reply-To: <325741.24784.qm@web82101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <85B3BC6392AF40278653C926B5C520F0@your27e1513d96> <325741.24784.qm@web82101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I don't read every article in the daily paper. I don't read every post on this net. Those that interest me I either read now or save for later. That doesn't take too long. Ray Johnson From barnhardts at carolina.rr.com Thu Mar 12 17:56:24 2009 From: barnhardts at carolina.rr.com (Barney Barnhardt) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:56:24 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] I agree In-Reply-To: <20090312210553.4C007290644@smtp1.av-mx.com> References: <20090312210553.4C007290644@smtp1.av-mx.com> Message-ID: Count me in the "I'm fine with the list" crowd. There's always the digest mode. Barney _____ From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Marcia Berkall Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 5:06 PM To: [Woodcarver] Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] I agree When there is active discussion, we all stand to learn something. I have to wonder what some people expect when they join a mailing list. It's been so slow lately, it's nice to see some activity. Marcia I find it funny, people complain when the list is quiet then you get a few people responding to a couple of posts (mostly woodcarving related) People are un subscribing. What gives with that? I think its true, we have sadly turned into a nation of whiners. Maura www.Carvinginnyc.com See Marcia's wood carvings at: http://whittlinsnwood.com Blog: http://cahvah.wordpress.com/ ***** Affordable Web Page Design: http://artwebmaine.com ***** Get 20% Off CoffeeCup Web Design Software Use this code when you checkout: 226STS www.getcoffeecup.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jancarves3 at rogers.com Thu Mar 12 19:41:04 2009 From: jancarves3 at rogers.com (Jan Oegema) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:41:04 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] I agree References: <9DF28B5B5D534294AE483F3C562BA627@zuke1> <0AFDFA72518249BA88EFF2DEFC24EF92@SNEAKERS> Message-ID: Seems like you have been friends for quite a while. Thanks Missi - N - Critters ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ We have known each other since Noah's flood Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From watsonb at iinet.com.au Thu Mar 12 20:16:18 2009 From: watsonb at iinet.com.au (Watson Family) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:16:18 +0900 Subject: [Woodcarver] I agree In-Reply-To: References: <9DF28B5B5D534294AE483F3C562BA627@zuke1> <0AFDFA72518249BA88EFF2DEFC24EF92@SNEAKERS> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.1.20090313091459.02535628@mail.iinet.net.au> At 08:41 AM 13/03/2009, you wrote: >We have known each other since Noah's flood Of course it was woodcarvers that built the ark. 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Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass, It's about learning to dance in the rain Elle --- On Thu, 3/12/09, dougneely1 at rogers.com wrote: From: dougneely1 at rogers.com Subject: [Woodcarver] I agree To: "[Woodcarver]" Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 11:34 AM Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I think its true, we have sadly turned into a nation of whiners. Maura www.Carvinginnyc.com See Marcia's wood carvings at: http://whittlinsnwood.com Blog: http://cahvah.wordpress.com/ ***** Affordable Web Page Design: http://artwebmaine.com ***** Get 20% Off CoffeeCup Web Design Software Use this code when you checkout: 226STS www.getcoffeecup.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.bloomquist at woodendreamz.com Fri Mar 13 07:16:51 2009 From: m.bloomquist at woodendreamz.com (m.bloomquist) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 07:16:51 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <621109.92814.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <144C01C42496443DAF6C26892A4B6613@mikestoy> Elle, Did you have a woodcarving question? Keep on Carvin' -Mike B.-> Wooden Dreams Woodcarving http://www.woodendreamz.com -----Original Message----- From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Elle Goggans Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:11 PM To: Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Subject: [Woodcarver] (no subject) please take me off this list, far too many emails and all are the same Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass, It's about learning to dance in the rain Elle -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass, It's about learning to dance in the rain Elle ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Elle you most likely will NOT see this post (as you UNSUBSCRIBED) but never theless I got a question for you "Why do YOU have these last two sentenses on your "E " Because you sure do NOT live up to it You DID NOT wait for the storm to pas and you certainly did NOT dance in the rain Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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And now let us move on to other topics - does anyone have a burning woodcarving question for this fine Friday? Matt *********************************************** Matt Kelley: Woodcarver, E-zine Editor, W3E Coordinator, List Owner Woodcarver Online Magazine, W3Exchange Programs, Carver Resource Files at: http://carverscompanion.com Carving Shirts & Gear at: http://carverscompanion.com/cclogostuff/logostuff.html CelticCarver WoodWorks: http://celtcarver.com From jb044044 at Windstream.net Fri Mar 13 08:01:09 2009 From: jb044044 at Windstream.net (Joe Brott) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 07:01:09 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Elle and the Wolf In-Reply-To: References: <497840.1545.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001201c9a3d3$66442a20$32cc7e60$@net> Sorry to see a want-to-learn person leave. Re: Mauara's wolf - What are the golf T's for in the one picture on her web site? How much do the wolves sell for? Maura's little wolfs are great inspiration now that my carving projects are all small. Old Joe From tafink at aol.com Fri Mar 13 08:40:47 2009 From: tafink at aol.com (tafink at aol.com) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:40:47 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Former member Elle In-Reply-To: References: <497840.1545.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CB71F01198CFBD-15A0-2E41@webmail-me09.sysops.aol.com> Chris Pye has a very nice newsletter, and his Slipstones are very good at covering various carving topics. As good as reading about carving can be (I like Pye's books), nothing beats working with a good teacher. I've been going to the American Woodcarving School in Wayne, NJ for 3 years now.? Learned a lot, and made a lot of friends. Tom Fink North Caldwell, NJ -----Original Message----- From: Matt Kelley To: [Woodcarver] Sent: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 7:52 am Subject: [Woodcarver] Former member Elle Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving? ? Good Morning Friends in Carving -? ? I swapped a few emails with former member Elle last night, and it's fairly clear to me we had a case of mismatched expectations. My sense is that she was looking for a newsletter that would present articles about how to carve, and not the sometimes lively flow of message that any mail list is likely to produce. That's fine - a mail list is not for everyone - some folks are just not up the volume of messages.? ? This experience also suggests I need to perhaps fine-tune the information at carverscompanion.com and on the pairlist site to make it more clear how a mail list functions, what a new member should expect, and how to self-unsubscribe or switch to digest mode.? ? And now let us move on to other topics - does anyone have a burning woodcarving question for this fine Friday?? ? Matt? ? ***********************************************? Matt Kelley: Woodcarver, E-zine Editor, W3E Coordinator, List Owner? ? Woodcarver Online Magazine, W3Exchange Programs,? Carver Resource Files at: http://carverscompanion.com? Carving Shirts & Gear at: http://carverscompanion.com/cclogostuff/logostuff.html? CelticCarver WoodWorks: http://celtcarver.com? _______________________________________________? Woodcarver mailing list? Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com? http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donpbk at yahoo.com Fri Mar 13 09:00:21 2009 From: donpbk at yahoo.com (Donna Menke) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 06:00:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... In-Reply-To: <20090312161152.70DCE1BF7E3@smtp0.av-mx.com> References: <21753A3C-81B1-45D8-9B0B-E00B8DF7AB15@me.com> <20090312161152.70DCE1BF7E3@smtp0.av-mx.com> Message-ID: <244890.29857.qm@web54306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Marcia- Looking at your Maine Coon cat blog was interesting- reminded me of my Emily dachshund blog. I added another blog to my little collection- the portrait one. These things are addictive- like you mentioned that you may do another one too. It seems strange to carve without documentation any more. I've taken another step in that direction in that now I am doing videos. Hubby and I have been working for months to accumulate the equipment and knowledge so that I can make process videos to sell at shows and seminars. It has been a struggle but we finally got it all together and finished a trial- my trips of last year for the kids and myself. One more bug to work out-menus- and then I'll do the big hummingbird video. Did a trial intro and discovered all the things I shouldn't do- like roll my eyes- not funny. I also completed yesterday the 7-page booklet for carving the Peeking Mouse for my classes and blanks. It is also planned for an upcoming issue of Carving Magazine. And- I'm sanding on a 3" Celtic Triad in figured maple- talk about a trial. It will be gorgeous- but the sanding is tedious in the extreme. Kinda like texturing a cat- eh! Donna Menke http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book ----- Original Message ---- > From: Marcia Berkall > To: [Woodcarver] > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 11:11:50 AM > Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop > at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > LOL I just have to chuckle when "fearless leader" hits > the wrong button :) There are times when I might have caught you on > the other end of the day...carving into the wee hours of the > morning. > > I'm up to my eyeballs in work. I'm still working on the life size > Maine Coon Cat carving. This has been a real stretch for me. > (I love commissions for that reason.) Never have I done so much > texturing! I hope to have that finished in the next few days, then > turn my attention to painting it. I got side tracked from > this carving for a while due to my husband's surgery back in October and > then the holiday stuff. Fortunately this client has a > "whenever it's ready" mentality about it, for which I am > eternally grateful! I set up a blog for her to watch the progress, > slow as it is. > http://cahvah.wordpress.com/home/maine-coon-cat-carvingin-progress/ I'll > probably be uploading a new picture in the next day or > two. > > I have also completed another veteran's cane and am working on a wood > spirit with a 250-year-old slab of wood that was raised from the bottom > of the Penobscot River. It's part of a wood recovery program and > this carving will become part of the heritage foundation > collection. The theme has to be either Native American or logging > related. I'm discovering some solutions for working with this old > brittle wood and am documenting the progress for,hopefully,a future > Carving Magazine Article. > > I'm also about to start teaching another Adult Ed 6-week Right Brain > Drawing class next week. > > As for strop compounds, I haven't tried the green compound. I've pretty > much stuck with the silicon carbide in oil suspension that one of my > favorite knife makers uses. I guess I'm of the opinion that > whatever works for you is the best one. That one doesn't work well > on the buffing wheel, so I might give the green compound a try for > that. > > Thanks, Matt, for getting this started! > > Marcia (aka Mush) > South China, Maine > > See Marcia's wood carvings > at: > > http://whittlinsnwood.com > Blog: http://cahvah.wordpress.com/ > ***** > Affordable Web Page > Design: > http://artwebmaine.com > ***** > > Get 20% Off CoffeeCup Web Design Software > Use this code when you checkout: 226STS > www.getcoffeecup.com From jancarves3 at rogers.com Fri Mar 13 09:06:34 2009 From: jancarves3 at rogers.com (Jan Oegema) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:06:34 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Former member Elle References: <497840.1545.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MATT wrote in part And now let us move on to other topics - does anyone have a burning woodcarving question for this fine Friday? Matt ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I DO!! Which wood burns the best ???????? I mean for using a woodburning tool and which Woodburner do you folks think is the best ?? Personally I like the "Collwood " line the best Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf From jancarves3 at rogers.com Fri Mar 13 09:15:43 2009 From: jancarves3 at rogers.com (Jan Oegema) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:15:43 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... References: <21753A3C-81B1-45D8-9B0B-E00B8DF7AB15@me.com><20090312161152.70DCE1BF7E3@smtp0.av-mx.com> <244890.29857.qm@web54306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Donna wrotes in part ; I've taken another step in that direction in that now I am doing videos. Hubby and I have been working for months to accumulate the equipment and knowledge so that I can make process videos to sell at shows and seminars. It has been a struggle but we finally got it all together and finished a trial- my trips of last year for the kids and myself. One more bug to work out-menus- and then I'll do the big hummingbird video. Did a trial intro and discovered all the things I shouldn't do- like roll my eyes- not funny +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Congrats and goodluck Wish you the best in your new endeavour Ambitious girl you are I must say Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf From Oregonkarver at aol.com Fri Mar 13 09:17:03 2009 From: Oregonkarver at aol.com (Oregonkarver at aol.com) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:17:03 EDT Subject: [Woodcarver] Knife making question Message-ID: And now let us move on to other topics - does anyone have a burning woodcarving question for this fine Friday? I hope this is a good question for this group. I have been looking at mini carving knives lately since I have gotten into carving miniature carving and other items that require small blades. Looked at several and thought they were to high priced. With my wife not being happy about buying more tools. I decided to try making my own out of old industrial 1/8" drill bits, these have a larger shaft on the end for quick release so they should hold well in the handle with epoxy I would think. I finished one the other day and it seems to be working well and the edge seems to be holding up so far. I have made knives out of old straight razor with very good success. My question is I setting myself up for failure with making these. Will the steel hold up? I guess if they don't at least I had some fun making them. Arthur **************Need a job? Find employment help in your area. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agencies&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000005) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdillett at thecarvingshop.net Fri Mar 13 09:48:12 2009 From: jdillett at thecarvingshop.net (Joe Dillett) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:48:12 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Question of the day. References: <21753A3C-81B1-45D8-9B0B-E00B8DF7AB15@me.com><20090312161152.70DCE1BF7E3@smtp0.av-mx.com> <244890.29857.qm@web54306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <40BA2C6C8663424FA0040697D7AB35CA@Joe> Hi Donna, Your videos sound like an exciting venture. I hope they sell like hot cakes. This brings up an interesting question about money made from carving and carving related activities. 1) How many of us try to generate a steady flow of income from your carving and carving related activities? This would include everything from a few dollars up. Yes or no is ok but expand your answer if you like. 2) Next question, related to our struggling economy, do you put that money generated from carving back into caving related purchases or use it to live on? Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Menke" To: "[Woodcarver]" Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > > Marcia- > Looking at your Maine Coon cat blog was interesting- reminded me of my > Emily dachshund blog. I added another blog to my little collection- the > portrait one. These things are addictive- like you mentioned that you may > do another one too. It seems strange to carve without documentation any > more. > I've taken another step in that direction in that now I am doing videos. > Hubby and I have been working for months to accumulate the equipment and > knowledge so that I can make process videos to sell at shows and seminars. > It has been a struggle but we finally got it all together and finished a > trial- my trips of last year for the kids and myself. One more bug to work > out-menus- and then I'll do the big hummingbird video. Did a trial intro > and discovered all the things I shouldn't do- like roll my eyes- not > funny. > I also completed yesterday the 7-page booklet for carving the Peeking > Mouse for my classes and blanks. It is also planned for an upcoming issue > of Carving Magazine. > > And- I'm sanding on a 3" Celtic Triad in figured maple- talk about a > trial. It will be gorgeous- but the sanding is tedious in the extreme. > Kinda like texturing a cat- eh! > Donna Menke > http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com > Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book > > > > ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Marcia Berkall >> To: [Woodcarver] >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 11:11:50 AM >> Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... >> >> Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' >> Campanion Shop >> at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving >> >> >> LOL I just have to chuckle when "fearless leader" hits >> the wrong button :) There are times when I might have caught you on >> the other end of the day...carving into the wee hours of the >> morning. >> >> I'm up to my eyeballs in work. I'm still working on the life size >> Maine Coon Cat carving. This has been a real stretch for me. >> (I love commissions for that reason.) Never have I done so much >> texturing! I hope to have that finished in the next few days, then >> turn my attention to painting it. I got side tracked from >> this carving for a while due to my husband's surgery back in October and >> then the holiday stuff. Fortunately this client has a >> "whenever it's ready" mentality about it, for which I am >> eternally grateful! I set up a blog for her to watch the progress, >> slow as it is. >> http://cahvah.wordpress.com/home/maine-coon-cat-carvingin-progress/ >> I'll >> probably be uploading a new picture in the next day or >> two. >> >> I have also completed another veteran's cane and am working on a wood >> spirit with a 250-year-old slab of wood that was raised from the bottom >> of the Penobscot River. It's part of a wood recovery program and >> this carving will become part of the heritage foundation >> collection. The theme has to be either Native American or logging >> related. I'm discovering some solutions for working with this old >> brittle wood and am documenting the progress for,hopefully,a future >> Carving Magazine Article. >> >> I'm also about to start teaching another Adult Ed 6-week Right Brain >> Drawing class next week. >> >> As for strop compounds, I haven't tried the green compound. I've pretty >> much stuck with the silicon carbide in oil suspension that one of my >> favorite knife makers uses. I guess I'm of the opinion that >> whatever works for you is the best one. That one doesn't work well >> on the buffing wheel, so I might give the green compound a try for >> that. >> >> Thanks, Matt, for getting this started! >> >> Marcia (aka Mush) >> South China, Maine >> >> See Marcia's wood carvings >> at: >> >> http://whittlinsnwood.com >> Blog: http://cahvah.wordpress.com/ >> ***** >> Affordable Web Page >> Design: >> http://artwebmaine.com >> ***** >> >> Get 20% Off CoffeeCup Web Design Software >> Use this code when you checkout: 226STS >> www.getcoffeecup.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > From jancarves3 at rogers.com Fri Mar 13 09:59:49 2009 From: jancarves3 at rogers.com (Jan Oegema) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:59:49 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Question of the day. References: <21753A3C-81B1-45D8-9B0B-E00B8DF7AB15@me.com><20090312161152.70DCE1BF7E3@smtp0.av-mx.com><244890.29857.qm@web54306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <40BA2C6C8663424FA0040697D7AB35CA@Joe> Message-ID: This brings up an interesting question about money made from carving and carving related activities. 1) How many of us try to generate a steady flow of income from your carving and carving related activities? This would include everything from a few dollars up. Yes or no is ok but expand your answer if you like. Definite MAYBE 2) Next question, related to our struggling economy, do you put that money generated from carving back into caving related purchases or use it to live on? BLOW IT ON BEER!! Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf From jdillett at thecarvingshop.net Fri Mar 13 10:00:54 2009 From: jdillett at thecarvingshop.net (Joe Dillett) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:00:54 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Knife making question References: Message-ID: Hi Arthur, I think what you're doing is great. The high-speed steel in the drill bit should hold an edge providing the temper wasn't removed during processing. If it was removed by over heating and if the carbon wasn't burned off you can re-harden them and draw them back to 62 Rockwell (which is about where they began). The steel from a drill bit should take more torque then the steel in a straight razor which should be better for a small blade knife. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: Oregonkarver at aol.com To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:17 AM Subject: Spam:***, [Woodcarver] Knife making question Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ And now let us move on to other topics - does anyone have a burning woodcarving question for this fine Friday? I hope this is a good question for this group. I have been looking at mini carving knives lately since I have gotten into carving miniature carving and other items that require small blades. Looked at several and thought they were to high priced. With my wife not being happy about buying more tools. I decided to try making my own out of old industrial 1/8" drill bits, these have a larger shaft on the end for quick release so they should hold well in the handle with epoxy I would think. I finished one the other day and it seems to be working well and the edge seems to be holding up so far. I have made knives out of old straight razor with very good success. My question is I setting myself up for failure with making these. Will the steel hold up? I guess if they don't at least I had some fun making them. Arthur ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Need a job? Find employment help in your area. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carve at whillock.com Fri Mar 13 10:08:31 2009 From: carve at whillock.com (Ivan Whillock) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:08:31 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Former member Elle References: <497840.1545.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <24CDDE2CB5E64286A4899CCCA9CFDF71@ome> does anyone have a burning > woodcarving question for this fine Friday? Hey, Matt, One does not use "burning" and "woodcarving" in the same sentence!!!:) Ivan Whillock Studio 122 NE 1st Avenue Faribault, MN 55021 Visit my website at http://www.whillock.com Visit my Picture Trail album at http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=ivancarve -------------------------------------------------- From: "Matt Kelley" > This experience also suggests I need to perhaps fine-tune the > information at carverscompanion.com and on the pairlist site to make > it more clear how a mail list functions, what a new member should > expect, and how to self-unsubscribe or switch to digest mode. > > And now let us move on to other topics - does anyone have a burning > woodcarving question for this fine Friday? > > > Matt From jdillett at thecarvingshop.net Fri Mar 13 10:11:25 2009 From: jdillett at thecarvingshop.net (Joe Dillett) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:11:25 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Question of the day. References: <21753A3C-81B1-45D8-9B0B-E00B8DF7AB15@me.com><20090312161152.70DCE1BF7E3@smtp0.av-mx.com><244890.29857.qm@web54306.mail.re2.yahoo.com><40BA2C6C8663424FA0040697D7AB35CA@Joe> Message-ID: <6663E44D75464A0296E9682820EB1276@Joe> BLOW IT ON BEER!! Woodbutcher Jan ********************************************************** I take it that BEER is not a brand name of carving tools. LOL Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** From fran.hill72712 at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 10:13:07 2009 From: fran.hill72712 at gmail.com (Fran Hill) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:13:07 -0600 Subject: [Woodcarver] Woodburners In-Reply-To: References: <497840.1545.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Razortip is my choice, Arkansas Fran -----Original Message----- From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Jan Oegema Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 7:07 AM To: [Woodcarver] Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Former member Elle Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving MATT wrote in part And now let us move on to other topics - does anyone have a burning woodcarving question for this fine Friday? Matt ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I DO!! Which wood burns the best ???????? I mean for using a woodburning tool and which Woodburner do you folks think is the best ?? Personally I like the "Collwood " line the best Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From jancarves3 at rogers.com Fri Mar 13 10:18:45 2009 From: jancarves3 at rogers.com (Jan Oegema) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:18:45 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Knife making question References: Message-ID: <951F771C64B743C49FD632E8692B88C1@your27e1513d96> Joe D wrotes I think what you're doing is great. The high-speed steel in the drill bit should hold an edge providing the temper wasn't removed during processing. If it was removed by over heating and if the carbon wasn't burned off you can re-harden them and draw them back to 62 Rockwell (which is about where they began +++++++++++++++++++++++ What repicy do YOU have to harden (or unharden) steel Joe ?? Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whitwood at fairpoint.net Fri Mar 13 10:20:09 2009 From: whitwood at fairpoint.net (Marcia Berkall) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:20:09 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Question of the day. In-Reply-To: <40BA2C6C8663424FA0040697D7AB35CA@Joe> References: <21753A3C-81B1-45D8-9B0B-E00B8DF7AB15@me.com> <20090312161152.70DCE1BF7E3@smtp0.av-mx.com> <244890.29857.qm@web54306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <40BA2C6C8663424FA0040697D7AB35CA@Joe> Message-ID: <20090313142010.CED541BF9E5@smtp0.av-mx.com> Hi, Joe!!! Good questions!! 1. Yes, I try to generate a steady flow of income from carving. (operative word="try") Commissions are my favorite part of selling, and I absolutely love teaching. 2. A certain portion of my carving related income goes towards living expenses every month. The rest goes into operating the business (and supplies for one BRAT parrot). Marcia (aka Mush) >This brings up an interesting question about money made from carving >and carving related activities. >1) How many of us try to generate a steady flow of income from your >carving and carving related activities? This would include >everything from a few dollars up. Yes or no is ok but expand your >answer if you like. >2) Next question, related to our struggling economy, do you put that >money generated from carving back into caving related purchases or >use it to live on? >Joe Dillett >The Carving Shop >645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 >Somonauk, IL. 60552 See Marcia's wood carvings at: http://whittlinsnwood.com Blog: http://cahvah.wordpress.com/ ***** Affordable Web Page Design: http://artwebmaine.com ***** Get 20% Off CoffeeCup Web Design Software Use this code when you checkout: 226STS www.getcoffeecup.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf From mike_gratton at yahoo.com Fri Mar 13 10:28:55 2009 From: mike_gratton at yahoo.com (Mike Gratton) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 07:28:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] Former member Elle Message-ID: <899224.40042.qm@web111306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Yes, my question is why are you burning your woodcarving? mikeg --- On Fri, 3/13/09, Matt Kelley wrote: > From: Matt Kelley > Subject: [Woodcarver] Former member Elle > To: "[Woodcarver]" > Date: Friday, March 13, 2009, 7:52 AM > Friends in Carving: Please support > our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > Good Morning Friends in Carving - > > I swapped a few emails with former member Elle last > night,? and it's fairly clear to me we had a case of > mismatched expectations.???My sense is that > she was looking for a newsletter that would present articles > about how to carve,? and not the sometimes lively flow > of message that any mail list is likely to produce.? > That's fine - a mail list is not for everyone - some folks > are just not up the volume of messages. > > This experience also suggests I need to perhaps fine-tune > the information at carverscompanion.com and on the pairlist > site to make it more clear how a mail list functions, what a > new member should expect,? and how to self-unsubscribe > or switch to digest mode. > > And now let us move on to other topics -? does anyone > have a burning woodcarving question for this fine Friday? > > > Matt > > *********************************************** > Matt Kelley: Woodcarver, E-zine Editor, W3E Coordinator, > List Owner > > Woodcarver Online Magazine, W3Exchange Programs, > Carver Resource Files at:???http://carverscompanion.com > Carving Shirts & Gear at:? http://carverscompanion.com/cclogostuff/logostuff.html > CelticCarver WoodWorks: http://celtcarver.com > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > From wdcvrrip at comcast.net Fri Mar 13 10:32:06 2009 From: wdcvrrip at comcast.net (WdcvrRip%40comcast.net) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:32:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Woodcarver] Former member Elle In-Reply-To: <899224.40042.qm@web111306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1991893170.595481236954726314.JavaMail.root@sz0029a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> He's not burning his woodcarving. He is "heat treating it" Rip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Gratton" To: "[Woodcarver]" Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 9:28:55 AM (GMT-0500) Auto-Detected Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Former member Elle Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Yes, my question is why are you burning your woodcarving? mikeg --- On Fri, 3/13/09, Matt Kelley wrote: > From: Matt Kelley > Subject: [Woodcarver] Former member Elle > To: "[Woodcarver]" > Date: Friday, March 13, 2009, 7:52 AM > Friends in Carving: Please support > our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > Good Morning Friends in Carving - > > I swapped a few emails with former member Elle last > night, and it's fairly clear to me we had a case of > mismatched expectations. My sense is that > she was looking for a newsletter that would present articles > about how to carve, and not the sometimes lively flow > of message that any mail list is likely to produce. > That's fine - a mail list is not for everyone - some folks > are just not up the volume of messages. > > This experience also suggests I need to perhaps fine-tune > the information at carverscompanion.com and on the pairlist > site to make it more clear how a mail list functions, what a > new member should expect, and how to self-unsubscribe > or switch to digest mode. > > And now let us move on to other topics - does anyone > have a burning woodcarving question for this fine Friday? > > > Matt > > *********************************************** > Matt Kelley: Woodcarver, E-zine Editor, W3E Coordinator, > List Owner > > Woodcarver Online Magazine, W3Exchange Programs, > Carver Resource Files at: http://carverscompanion.com > Carving Shirts & Gear at: http://carverscompanion.com/cclogostuff/logostuff.html > CelticCarver WoodWorks: http://celtcarver.com > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tclarke at vm.state.nj.us Fri Mar 13 10:33:43 2009 From: tclarke at vm.state.nj.us (Tom Clarke) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:33:43 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Former member Elle In-Reply-To: <899224.40042.qm@web111306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <899224.40042.qm@web111306.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49BA6EC7.1000204@vm.state.nj.us> Probably because they look like mine, indistinguishable from regular firewood plus chips and curls.... Tom (nj) ;--) Mike Gratton wrote: > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > > Yes, my question is why are you burning your woodcarving? > > mikeg > > --- On Fri, 3/13/09, Matt Kelley wrote: > > >> From: Matt Kelley >> Subject: [Woodcarver] Former member Elle >> To: "[Woodcarver]" >> Date: Friday, March 13, 2009, 7:52 AM >> Friends in Carving: Please support >> our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving >> >> >> Good Morning Friends in Carving - >> >> I swapped a few emails with former member Elle last >> night, and it's fairly clear to me we had a case of >> mismatched expectations. My sense is that >> she was looking for a newsletter that would present articles >> about how to carve, and not the sometimes lively flow >> of message that any mail list is likely to produce. >> That's fine - a mail list is not for everyone - some folks >> are just not up the volume of messages. >> >> This experience also suggests I need to perhaps fine-tune >> the information at carverscompanion.com and on the pairlist >> site to make it more clear how a mail list functions, what a >> new member should expect, and how to self-unsubscribe >> or switch to digest mode. >> >> And now let us move on to other topics - does anyone >> have a burning woodcarving question for this fine Friday? >> >> >> Matt >> >> *********************************************** >> Matt Kelley: Woodcarver, E-zine Editor, W3E Coordinator, >> List Owner >> >> Woodcarver Online Magazine, W3Exchange Programs, >> Carver Resource Files at: http://carverscompanion.com >> Carving Shirts & Gear at: http://carverscompanion.com/cclogostuff/logostuff.html >> CelticCarver WoodWorks: http://celtcarver.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Woodcarver mailing list >> Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver >> >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com Fri Mar 13 10:52:48 2009 From: thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com (Larry Yudis) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:52:48 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Former member Elle In-Reply-To: <24CDDE2CB5E64286A4899CCCA9CFDF71@ome> Message-ID: <20090313145257.E1E96E9D1E@mailwash34.pair.com> Excellent thought, Ivan! When I do woodburning on a woodcarving and screw it up, I generally end up burning the woodcarving. That's the part of woodcarving that really burns me up. :o) BIG DOG -----Original Message----- From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Ivan Whillock Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 9:09 AM To: [Woodcarver] Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Former member Elle Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving does anyone have a burning > woodcarving question for this fine Friday? Hey, Matt, One does not use "burning" and "woodcarving" in the same sentence!!!:) Ivan Whillock Studio 122 NE 1st Avenue Faribault, MN 55021 Visit my website at http://www.whillock.com Visit my Picture Trail album at http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=ivancarve -------------------------------------------------- From: "Matt Kelley" > This experience also suggests I need to perhaps fine-tune the > information at carverscompanion.com and on the pairlist site to make > it more clear how a mail list functions, what a new member should > expect, and how to self-unsubscribe or switch to digest mode. > > And now let us move on to other topics - does anyone have a burning > woodcarving question for this fine Friday? > > > Matt _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From jancarves3 at rogers.com Fri Mar 13 10:56:29 2009 From: jancarves3 at rogers.com (Jan Oegema) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:56:29 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Question of the day. References: <21753A3C-81B1-45D8-9B0B-E00B8DF7AB15@me.com><20090312161152.70DCE1BF7E3@smtp0.av-mx.com><244890.29857.qm@web54306.mail.re2.yahoo.com><40BA2C6C8663424FA0040697D7AB35CA@Joe> <6663E44D75464A0296E9682820EB1276@Joe> Message-ID: I take it that BEER is not a brand name of carving tools. LOL Joe Dillett ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Its the power that drives the tools Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf From jancarves3 at rogers.com Fri Mar 13 10:59:36 2009 From: jancarves3 at rogers.com (Jan Oegema) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:59:36 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Question of the day. References: <21753A3C-81B1-45D8-9B0B-E00B8DF7AB15@me.com><20090312161152.70DCE1BF7E3@smtp0.av-mx.com><244890.29857.qm@web54306.mail.re2.yahoo.com><40BA2C6C8663424FA0040697D7AB35CA@Joe> <20090313142010.CED541BF9E5@smtp0.av-mx.com> Message-ID: 2. A certain portion of my carving related income goes towards living expenses every month. The rest goes into operating the business (and supplies for one BRAT parrot). Marcia (aka Mush +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Now there is an IDEA use the carving income for living expenses In that case I'd b e AS SKINNY AS A RAIL Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chrishoward307 at bellsouth.net Fri Mar 13 11:00:55 2009 From: chrishoward307 at bellsouth.net (Chris Howard) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:00:55 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Question of the day. References: <21753A3C-81B1-45D8-9B0B-E00B8DF7AB15@me.com><20090312161152.70DCE1BF7E3@smtp0.av-mx.com><244890.29857.qm@web54306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <40BA2C6C8663424FA0040697D7AB35CA@Joe> Message-ID: <005001c9a3ec$839d4020$6101a8c0@chris112005> > > 1) How many of us try to generate a steady flow of income from your > carving and carving related activities? This would include everything from > a few dollars up. Yes or no is ok but expand your answer if you like. All my living comes from carving, its a great way to make a living and also a hard one for me, hunger is a wonderful creative tool. Making a living carving limits the big pieces I want to do. I have to carve for the market I have, living in a tourist town helps. I spend 8 to 10 hours a day carving. Teaching is also a big part of income but it does come with a sacrifice always on the road sometimes for 6 weeks in row.Joe I have camped in your parking lot more than once on my way thru.Fixed my car in Ivans parking lot. Teaching helps me as much as my students it is very fulfilling all the different ideas. I enjoy when they bring pieces back to class they have finished, and for some I break them out of their comfort zone. I have worked in many different places and with carving its the best quaility bunch of people I have ever been around. The hardest for me is being my own marketing agent, book keeper, schedule keeper,bus driver CEO and janitor. > > 2) Next question, related to our struggling economy, do you put that money > generated from carving back into caving related purchases or use it to > live on? Both, the big joke from my friends that cave for a living is " Make enough money to buy more wood" A quote I read somewhere>" When a group of Bankers have lunch they talk about ART when group of artist have lunch they talk about Money" Chris Howard > Joe Dillett > The Carving Shop > 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 > Somonauk, IL. 60552 > > (815) 498-9290 phone > (815) 498-9249 fax > http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] > http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] > http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett > ****************************************************************** > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donna Menke" > To: "[Woodcarver]" > Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:00 AM > Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... > > >> Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' >> Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving >> >> >> >> Marcia- >> Looking at your Maine Coon cat blog was interesting- reminded me of my >> Emily dachshund blog. I added another blog to my little collection- the >> portrait one. These things are addictive- like you mentioned that you may >> do another one too. It seems strange to carve without documentation any >> more. >> I've taken another step in that direction in that now I am doing videos. >> Hubby and I have been working for months to accumulate the equipment and >> knowledge so that I can make process videos to sell at shows and >> seminars. It has been a struggle but we finally got it all together and >> finished a trial- my trips of last year for the kids and myself. One more >> bug to work out-menus- and then I'll do the big hummingbird video. Did a >> trial intro and discovered all the things I shouldn't do- like roll my >> eyes- not funny. >> I also completed yesterday the 7-page booklet for carving the Peeking >> Mouse for my classes and blanks. It is also planned for an upcoming issue >> of Carving Magazine. >> >> And- I'm sanding on a 3" Celtic Triad in figured maple- talk about a >> trial. It will be gorgeous- but the sanding is tedious in the extreme. >> Kinda like texturing a cat- eh! >> Donna Menke >> http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com >> Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >>> From: Marcia Berkall >>> To: [Woodcarver] >>> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 11:11:50 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... >>> >>> Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' >>> Campanion Shop >>> at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving >>> >>> >>> LOL I just have to chuckle when "fearless leader" hits >>> the wrong button :) There are times when I might have caught you on >>> the other end of the day...carving into the wee hours of the >>> morning. >>> >>> I'm up to my eyeballs in work. I'm still working on the life size >>> Maine Coon Cat carving. This has been a real stretch for me. >>> (I love commissions for that reason.) Never have I done so much >>> texturing! I hope to have that finished in the next few days, then >>> turn my attention to painting it. I got side tracked from >>> this carving for a while due to my husband's surgery back in October and >>> then the holiday stuff. Fortunately this client has a >>> "whenever it's ready" mentality about it, for which I am >>> eternally grateful! I set up a blog for her to watch the progress, >>> slow as it is. >>> http://cahvah.wordpress.com/home/maine-coon-cat-carvingin-progress/ I'll >>> probably be uploading a new picture in the next day or >>> two. >>> >>> I have also completed another veteran's cane and am working on a wood >>> spirit with a 250-year-old slab of wood that was raised from the bottom >>> of the Penobscot River. It's part of a wood recovery program and >>> this carving will become part of the heritage foundation >>> collection. The theme has to be either Native American or logging >>> related. I'm discovering some solutions for working with this old >>> brittle wood and am documenting the progress for,hopefully,a future >>> Carving Magazine Article. >>> >>> I'm also about to start teaching another Adult Ed 6-week Right Brain >>> Drawing class next week. >>> >>> As for strop compounds, I haven't tried the green compound. I've pretty >>> much stuck with the silicon carbide in oil suspension that one of my >>> favorite knife makers uses. I guess I'm of the opinion that >>> whatever works for you is the best one. That one doesn't work well >>> on the buffing wheel, so I might give the green compound a try for >>> that. >>> >>> Thanks, Matt, for getting this started! >>> >>> Marcia (aka Mush) >>> South China, Maine >>> >>> See Marcia's wood carvings >>> at: >>> >>> http://whittlinsnwood.com >>> Blog: http://cahvah.wordpress.com/ >>> ***** >>> Affordable Web Page >>> Design: >>> http://artwebmaine.com >>> ***** >>> >>> Get 20% Off CoffeeCup Web Design Software >>> Use this code when you checkout: 226STS >>> www.getcoffeecup.com >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Woodcarver mailing list >> Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver >> > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From jancarves3 at rogers.com Fri Mar 13 11:04:03 2009 From: jancarves3 at rogers.com (Jan Oegema) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:04:03 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Former member Elle References: <20090313145257.E1E96E9D1E@mailwash34.pair.com> Message-ID: <26AE985C74E9466FA8F5BC09FB21F542@your27e1513d96> Excellent thought, Ivan! When I do woodburning on a woodcarving and screw it up, I generally end up burning the woodcarving. That's the part of woodcarving that really burns me up. :o) BIG DOG ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ GOSH BD you have such a way with words Now tell us REALY how much carving you do ?? \I think I 'd freeze to death on burning your carvings Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf From dickfaulkner at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 13 11:04:19 2009 From: dickfaulkner at sbcglobal.net (Richard Faulkner) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:04:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] Knife making question References: <951F771C64B743C49FD632E8692B88C1@your27e1513d96> Message-ID: <707890.6229.qm@web81503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In my spare time (when I am working - to support my carving) I am an engineer, my degree is in Mechanical Engineering and one of the subjects I studied (years ago) was metallurgy. To soften metal, heat it up until it glows and let it cool off slowly. This is called annealing. To harden metal, heat it up and cool it quickly by "quenching it in an oil or water bath. This is called tempering. Be careful as quenching in water may cool it too quickly and cause it to get to hard making it brittle. Hope this helps Dick Faulkner ________________________________ From: Jan Oegema To: [Woodcarver] Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 9:18:45 AM Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Knife making question Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Joe D wrotes I think what you're doing is great. The high-speed steel in the drill bit should hold an edge providing the temper wasn't removed during processing. If it was removed by over heating and if the carbon wasn't burned off you can re-harden them and draw them back to 62 Rockwell (which is about where they began +++++++++++++++++++++++ What repicy do YOU have to harden (or unharden) steel Joe ?? Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carve at whillock.com Fri Mar 13 11:15:19 2009 From: carve at whillock.com (Ivan Whillock) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:15:19 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] IVAN References: <497840.1545.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><24CDDE2CB5E64286A4899CCCA9CFDF71@ome> Message-ID: <9E948EAC896440DE92A7E3D276A053BF@ome> > Do you make or habve made your own tools Ivan? Like specialty tools ans > what do you use to start with ?? When I first started carving I made some of my own tools, quickly decided I'd rather carve than make tools, though I did design and make prototypes of palm tools for Stubai and a few specialty tools. Back when I first studied, Eduardo, the master carver I worked with, insisted that I buy unsharpened, unhandled tools and learn to do that myself. That, however, was the standard back then. You ordered the unsharpened blades and handles separately. Often you made your own handles. If you wanted tools factory honed and with handles, which professionals almost never did, you added that to the cost and the factory did it for you. Eduardo insisted that it was wasted money, that when you got the tools you'd have to regrind them to your own specifications anyway. The first skill I learned was getting my carving tools handled, properly sharpened and honed. Ponder this: a blade cost about $2.00, the handle 50 cents. If you wanted the factory to sharpen and hone it, that was another 50 cents, but then you had to also have them put the handle on for you, for another charge, I think around 25 cents, popping the cost of the tool up to over $3! That #18 3/8 tool that cost $3.25 when I first started now sells for over $20! Of course, then you could live on $6 grand a year, too. Ivan Whillock Studio 122 NE 1st Avenue Faribault, MN 55021 Visit my website at http://www.whillock.com Visit my Picture Trail album at http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=ivancarve -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jan Oegema" Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 9:22 AM To: "[Woodcarver]" Subject: [Woodcarver] IVAN > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > Hey, Matt, > > One does not use "burning" and "woodcarving" in the same sentence!!!:) > > > Ivan Whillock Studio > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Good to see you are still among us Ivan > Do you make or habve made your own tools Ivan? Like specialty tools ans > what do you use to start with ?? > > > Woodbutcher Jan > > > You are invited to check out my website.. > http://www.janscarvingstudio.com > > Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... > http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher > > http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ > > > http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > From thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com Fri Mar 13 11:18:57 2009 From: thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com (Larry Yudis) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:18:57 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] To burn or not to burn ... that is the question! In-Reply-To: <26AE985C74E9466FA8F5BC09FB21F542@your27e1513d96> Message-ID: <20090313151909.41B18E9D17@mailwash34.pair.com> >>>>>>>>>Now tell us REALY how much carving you do ?? You would have to ask, wouldn't you, Jan? Unfortunately, very little ... so wear your winter coat! LOL! BIG DOG -----Original Message----- From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Jan Oegema Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 10:04 AM To: [Woodcarver] Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Former member Elle Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Excellent thought, Ivan! When I do woodburning on a woodcarving and screw it up, I generally end up burning the woodcarving. That's the part of woodcarving that really burns me up. :o) BIG DOG ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ GOSH BD you have such a way with words Now tell us REALY how much carving you do ?? \I think I 'd freeze to death on burning your carvings Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From jancarves3 at rogers.com Fri Mar 13 11:21:58 2009 From: jancarves3 at rogers.com (Jan Oegema) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:21:58 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Knife making question References: <951F771C64B743C49FD632E8692B88C1@your27e1513d96> <707890.6229.qm@web81503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: To soften metal, heat it up until it glows and let it cool off slowly. This is called annealing. To harden metal, heat it up and cool it quickly by "quenching it in an oil or water bath. This is called tempering. Be careful as quenching in water may cool it too quickly and cause it to get to hard making it brittle. Hope this helps Dick Faulkner +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Thanks Dick Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sarolyn at accn.org Fri Mar 13 11:38:42 2009 From: sarolyn at accn.org (Sally Nye) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:38:42 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] informative web site... In-Reply-To: <20090313145257.E1E96E9D1E@mailwash34.pair.com> References: <20090313145257.E1E96E9D1E@mailwash34.pair.com> Message-ID: Hello to the list, I was sorry to read about Elle's frustrations so sent her this information privately. There may be others nearing the point of exasperation. www.WoodworkersInstitute.com is a most informative site for the world of wood. It includes topics such as: furniture & cabinet making woodworking plans & projects woodturning woodCARVING When you open one of these links it will take you into blogs, forums, history, and yes...step-by-step instructions to projects. You will be talking to an international world: Italians, Germans, British and most all groups. A word of warning though....you can spend a lot of time here. Have the coffee pot full before you enter. Best Sally http://www.FanCarversWorld.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdillett at thecarvingshop.net Fri Mar 13 11:40:09 2009 From: jdillett at thecarvingshop.net (Joe Dillett) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:40:09 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Knife making question References: <951F771C64B743C49FD632E8692B88C1@your27e1513d96> Message-ID: <494846A1E50946E985C85C6D319856D7@Joe> What repicy do YOU have to harden (or unharden) steel Joe ?? Woodbutcher Jan ************************************************************ Hi Jan, Steel that can be harden must be high in carbon. One can burn carbon out of steel by overheating so care must be taken while grinding. To harden a piece of steel heat the steel so it is red (cherry color) hot (this is generally done in a forge). Quench it quickly in oil. This will harden it to maybe 72 Rockwell. Test it with a file. If you draw a file across the metal the file should hardly scratch it. It should be about as hard as the file. 72 Rockwell is too brittle for a chisel, it will shatter or chip easily. The hardness needs to drawn back to about 62 Rockwell so it is less brittle. To do this polish the steel to a bright silver color. Heat the metal to a straw color and no hotter (maybe 450 degrees F. Even a toaster oven will do). Quench in water. Now try the file and it should remove some metal but still remain hard enough to hold an edge. That should be about 62 Rockwell. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zwwizard at msn.com Fri Mar 13 11:44:00 2009 From: zwwizard at msn.com (RICHARD L ROMBOLD) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:44:00 -0700 Subject: [Woodcarver] Knife making question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good morning Arthur, isn't it nice to see the sun today? Here are some knives that I make out of Masonry nails. You can buy a 1 pound box for around $3.00, that's over 50 nails, or tools. http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/4235753 I just use a small propane torch to heat treat them. Richard (the Wizz) just a little bit south of you. And now let us move on to other topics - does anyone have a burning woodcarving question for this fine Friday? I hope this is a good question for this group. I have been looking at mini carving knives lately since I have gotten into carving miniature carving and other items that require small blades. Looked at several and thought they were to high priced. 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LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** From bjudt at sasktel.net Fri Mar 13 11:47:48 2009 From: bjudt at sasktel.net (Bill Judt) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:47:48 -0600 Subject: [Woodcarver] Question of the day. In-Reply-To: References: <21753A3C-81B1-45D8-9B0B-E00B8DF7AB15@me.com> <20090312161152.70DCE1BF7E3@smtp0.av-mx.com> <244890.29857.qm@web54306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <40BA2C6C8663424FA0040697D7AB35CA@Joe> Message-ID: Jan: Interesting questions. Thank you for asking. Re: Question 1. On January 1st, I started looking for a job. And I found one. Since January I've been employed part time at our church, doing custodial duties - otherwise known as the Ministry of Bathrooms and Vacuums - and I am quite enjoying the work. I have not had a carving commission since May 2008. It is like the "well dried up". When September came around, I promised Debbie that I would finish the "Stations of the Cross" project (http://www.wwwoodcarver.com/Home/Stations_of_the_Cross.html ) and then find a job in the new year. I kept my promise, crafted a resum?, and distributed it to prospective employers. This is the first time in 26 years I was actively seeking work that was not carving related. In other words, God provided a living for me in woodcarving all these years. It is my firm conviction that "no well dries up without both His knowledge and His permission". So the last three months I have divided my working hours between carving classes (they are FULL and thriving) and custodial work, plus a few other odd and interesting jobs I've picked up... like building low-end websites for local businesses. Over the last 26 years I've always been amazed that I was able to make a living as a wood carver. God is so generous. At this point, I am still in the position to accept carving commissions, should they come to me. But I am not counting on them for my source of income. And I am greeting the change in lifestyle with enthusiasm and vigor. So far the family finances are good, and so is my health and energy. Re: Question 2: When I made a living from carving, I put my money into the family income bucket and also bought whatever tools were needed (and a few that were not) to make a living. But I spent almost nothing on beer!!! Bill "You will keep in perfect peace all who trust in you, all whose thoughts are fixed on you!" Isaiah 26:3 My books are for sale at: http://www.wwwoodcarver.com/Home/CD_Books.html W.F. Judt, 46 Harvard Cres, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, S7H3R1 PH: 306-373-6649 bjudt at sasktel.net Website: http://www.wwwoodcarver.com On 13-Mar-09, at 7:59 AM, Jan Oegema wrote: > > This brings up an interesting question about money made from carving > and > carving related activities. > > 1) How many of us try to generate a steady flow of income from your > carving > and carving related activities? This would include everything from a > few > dollars up. Yes or no is ok but expand your answer if you like. > > Definite MAYBE > > 2) Next question, related to our struggling economy, do you put that > money > generated from carving back into caving related purchases or use it > to live > on? > > BLOW IT ON BEER!! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barnhardts at carolina.rr.com Fri Mar 13 11:54:19 2009 From: barnhardts at carolina.rr.com (Barney Barnhardt) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:54:19 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Knife making question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Are they "all" made from masonry nails? Some of the wider blades have me wondering. I have visions of heating and pounding like an old time blacksmith!! Barney _____ From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of RICHARD L ROMBOLD Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 11:44 AM To: [Woodcarver] Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Knife making question Good morning Arthur, isn't it nice to see the sun today? Here are some knives that I make out of Masonry nails. You can buy a 1 pound box for around $3.00, thats over 50 nails, or tools. http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/4235753 I just use a small propane torch to heat treat them. Richard (the Wizz) just a little bit south of you. And now let us move on to other topics - does anyone have a burning woodcarving question for this fine Friday? I hope this is a good question for this group. I have been looking at mini carving knives lately since I have gotten into carving miniature carving and other items that require small blades. Looked at several and thought they were to high priced. Arthur -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com Fri Mar 13 12:03:57 2009 From: thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com (Larry Yudis) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:03:57 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] A Wizz at making tools ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090313160406.CC9CFE9D34@mailwash34.pair.com> Hey Wizz, What are you doing to us poor woodcarving tool suppliers??? :o) Great looking tools, my friend. I especially like the adzes patterned after the Northwest Coast Indian-type tools. Very nice. Your bent knives are very cool too. Keep up the good work ... let me know if you ever make enough to want to wholesale them. Larry (BIG DOG) Yudis The Woodcraft Shop 2724 State St Bettendorf, IA 52722 800-397-2278 www.thewoodcraftshop.com Carol and Larry Yudis, Show Chairs International Woodcarvers Congress Affiliated Wood Carvers, Ltd. PO Box 104 Bettendorf, IA 52722 563-359-9684 (days) 563-355-3787 (evenings) www.awcltd.org _____ From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of RICHARD L ROMBOLD Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 10:44 AM To: [Woodcarver] Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Knife making question Good morning Arthur, isn't it nice to see the sun today? Here are some knives that I make out of Masonry nails. You can buy a 1 pound box for around $3.00, thats over 50 nails, or tools. http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/4235753 I just use a small propane torch to heat treat them. Richard (the Wizz) just a little bit south of you. And now let us move on to other topics - does anyone have a burning woodcarving question for this fine Friday? I hope this is a good question for this group. I have been looking at mini carving knives lately since I have gotten into carving miniature carving and other items that require small blades. Looked at several and thought they were to high priced. Arthur -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zwwizard at msn.com Fri Mar 13 12:21:22 2009 From: zwwizard at msn.com (RICHARD L ROMBOLD) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:21:22 -0700 Subject: [Woodcarver] Knife making question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yep, some take a beating. I have a small piece of steel that I use right on the bench top for these small knives. It don't take much. Heat it up, pound on it, shape it to what you what. Let it cool and grind it to shape. Heat treat it and polish it up, Stick into a handle. and start carving. Takes maybe 20 +or- min. ----- Original Message ----- From: Barney Barnhardt To: '[Woodcarver]' Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Knife making question Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Are they "all" made from masonry nails? Some of the wider blades have me wondering. I have visions of heating and pounding like an old time blacksmith!! Barney -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From albisso at bresnan.net Fri Mar 13 12:25:42 2009 From: albisso at bresnan.net (Alex Bisso) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:25:42 -0600 Subject: [Woodcarver] Knife-making question Message-ID: I would suggest checking out some of the Warren blades and Exacto blades that are readily available and very low cost. While they are made to go into specific handles, I have found it very easy to make custom handles for the blades and that they make very good hand tools. Also, they have quite a few choices in small blades and all of the blades are fairly thin and easy to reshape. You might have to get the Warren blades from a carving supply store but you can probably find the Exacto blades at a local craft store. Alex Bisso -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zwwizard at msn.com Fri Mar 13 12:28:38 2009 From: zwwizard at msn.com (RICHARD L ROMBOLD) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:28:38 -0700 Subject: [Woodcarver] A Wizz at making tools ... In-Reply-To: <20090313160406.CC9CFE9D34@mailwash34.pair.com> References: <20090313160406.CC9CFE9D34@mailwash34.pair.com> Message-ID: Thanks Larry, but NO I'm not going The wholesale rout. I am suppose to be retired. (or is that retarded). I make up enough to sell at our carving club shows and a few others. And a few custom orders. That reminds me ,I got to make a few more Adzes. Richard Hey Wizz, What are you doing to us poor woodcarving tool suppliers??? :o) Great looking tools, my friend. I especially like the adzes patterned after the Northwest Coast Indian-type tools. Very nice. Your bent knives are very cool too. Keep up the good work ... let me know if you ever make enough to want to wholesale them. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com Fri Mar 13 12:35:27 2009 From: thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com (Larry Yudis) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:35:27 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] A Wizz at making tools ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090313163536.E008CE9D30@mailwash34.pair.com> I kinda thought that would be the case Wizz. Retirement is supposed to be a calm, restful time of one's life, not making tools under pressure! LOL! Since you were reminded to make a few more Adzes, would you make an extra one and send it to me with a bill. I'd love to buy one to add to my vast collection of tools that hardly get used. Larry (BIG DOG) Yudis The Woodcraft Shop 2724 State St Bettendorf, IA 52722 800-397-2278 www.thewoodcraftshop.com Carol and Larry Yudis, Show Chairs International Woodcarvers Congress Affiliated Wood Carvers, Ltd. PO Box 104 Bettendorf, IA 52722 563-359-9684 (days) 563-355-3787 (evenings) www.awcltd.org _____ From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of RICHARD L ROMBOLD Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 11:29 AM To: [Woodcarver] Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] A Wizz at making tools ... Thanks Larry, but NO I'm not going The wholesale rout. I am suppose to be retired. (or is that retarded). I make up enough to sell at our carving club shows and a few others. And a few custom orders. That reminds me ,I got to make a few more Adzes. Richard Hey Wizz, What are you doing to us poor woodcarving tool suppliers??? :o) Great looking tools, my friend. I especially like the adzes patterned after the Northwest Coast Indian-type tools. Very nice. Your bent knives are very cool too. Keep up the good work ... let me know if you ever make enough to want to wholesale them. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From celtcarver at comcast.net Fri Mar 13 12:36:40 2009 From: celtcarver at comcast.net (Matt Kelley) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:36:40 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] New Question from Chris Whillock References: Message-ID: <9EF684F4-C486-4F58-B66A-07F258F269F9@comcast.net> A question from Chris Whillock: > From: Chris > Date: March 13, 2009 7:03:08 AM GMT-04:00 > > > Here is my question: > > Hello All, > > I have a question I've been wanting some feedback on..... > > Have carving shows been affected by the recession? Have you noticed > less people attending shows, are they buying as much in the past? > What has been your experience ... > > What about classes, club activities etc .... > > I'd really appreciate any comments you can share ... > > Thanks much! > > Chris Whillock > > > From thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com Fri Mar 13 12:39:41 2009 From: thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com (Larry Yudis) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:39:41 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Announcement of two great carving shows ... Message-ID: <20090313163950.BA6796E85F@six.pairlist.net> _____ Hi y'all, I'd like to amend Al's announcement below as well as add to it. Carol Yudis, from The Woodcraft Shop, will be in Plover for their show with two helpers, Rick and Vickie. Larry will be heading south , with son Chris , to Lee's Summit, MO for the annual Kansas City Woodcarvers Show held at the John Knox Pavilion, 520 N.W. Murray Road in Lees Summit. A scheduling conflict at the KC show necessitated a splitting of the forces. The KC show is a FRIDAY/SATURDAY show ... Fri. 10 to 6 and Sat. 10 to 5. They don't run on Sunday because the facility is used for services for the John Knox Retirement Village. If there is anything in particular you want us to bring to the show to look at or purchase, let us know right away ... especially for the KC show since Carol will have the majority of stock with her in Wisconsin. Larry (BIG DOG) Yudis The Woodcraft Shop 2724 State St Bettendorf, IA 52722 800-397-2278 www.thewoodcraftshop.com Carol and Larry Yudis, Show Chairs International Woodcarvers Congress Affiliated Wood Carvers, Ltd. PO Box 104 Bettendorf, IA 52722 563-359-9684 (days) 563-355-3787 (evenings) www.awcltd.org _____ Hello Everyone, The Wisconsin River Woodcarvers will be holding their 9th Annual Woodcarving Show, Competition, and Sale on Saturday, March 21, 2009 and Sunday, March 22, 2009. It will be held at the Elizabeth Inn and Convention Center at the junction of Hwy. 54 and I-39 in Plover, Wisconsin between the hours of 9AM and 4PM. It is open to the public and admission is $2.00 (12 and under are free). There will be demonstrations throughout both days. This years "Featured Carver" is Joyce Klement. In addition, Larry and Carol Yudis will be present with all of their wonderful goodies from the Woodcraft Shop and John Krantz will have his usual supply of excellent carving wood. For further information contact Ron O'Kray at 715/341-2214 or Greg Wirtz at 715/423-0471. Al Pilsl >From Beautiful Hancock, WI pilsl at uniontel. net Please feel free to look at our work at www.picturetrail.com/dicka . __,_._,___ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please use bold, larger type, crop the posts, whatever so I don't miss your important words??? Casey * On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 1:25 PM, wrote: > Send Woodcarver mailing list submissions to > woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > woodcarver-request at carverscompanion.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > woodcarver-owner at carverscompanion.com > > "Man is only as valuable as he can help others" LRH "You can no more spoil a child with love than you can put out the sun with a bucket of gasoline" LRH -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Shes's so nice and patient that I can do projects for her to fill in spaces in my schedule. > 2) Next question, related to our struggling economy, do you put that money > generated from carving back into carving related purchases or use it to > live on? I'm more careful about purchases but I'm still always looking for that new tool that will make my job go faster and easier. It becomes an investment rather than an expense. -- Ron Ramsey http://www.carvedbyramsey.com From jdkc1982 at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 12:53:49 2009 From: jdkc1982 at gmail.com (Casey Willson) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:53:49 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] contents: Woodcarver Digest, Vol 1639, Issue 2 Message-ID: quote: "And now let us move on to other topics - does anyone have a burning woodcarving question for this fine Friday? Matt" *Yes, I do! Does anyone have any suggestions on the easiest way to make a LOT of snake scales on a snake carving (rattler with the diamond shaped scales). I've tested several old tools to stamp the scales but the only thing I've found that I actually like is an old, cheap "v" gouge that I reinforced with liquid steel and use it < > to make the scales. This snake is on a walking stick and the head is about 3 inches across. It curls around the stick for about 2 1/2 feet approx. That is a lot of position and tap. Just wondering if there is a better idea out there for someone who has trouble controlling a knife (nerve damaged hands and wrists) but will carve 'til the day she dies... LOL Casey * On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 9:32 AM, wrote: > Send Woodcarver mailing list submissions to > woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdkc1982 at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 13:04:00 2009 From: jdkc1982 at gmail.com (Casey Willson) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:04:00 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] contents: Woodcarver Digest, Vol 1639, Issue 3 Message-ID: This brings up an interesting question about money made from carving and carving related activities. 1) How many of us try to generate a steady flow of income from your carving and carving related activities? This would include everything from a few dollars up. Yes or no is ok but expand your answer if you like. *I've just started and over the past 18 months or so have generated about $300 from carving. I'm rather proud of that for a rank beginner. LOL I pretty much have to get the carving buyers to come to me or sell via friend recommendations. I'm thinking of maybe putting some things on ETSY when I get something non-commissioned done.* 2) Next question, related to our struggling economy, do you put that money generated from carving back into caving related purchases or use it to live on? *Any money generated from carving has to go back into my bank account to replace the approx. $2000 I spent setting up with tools and space! Obviously we already had a lot of tools I can use from our other activities or it would have been a lot more. And my tools do not include many I've heard you guys talk about since they are tools that would be really difficult for me to use. I have basic knives and basic gouges, files and rasps (I use these a lot) and some great power carving tools. Since I bought most in miniature sizes I guess I should start carving miniatures instead of walking sticks. LOL Casey * -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Joe Dillett +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I have a repisy here from Harold Enlow He showed me how to harden and or soften steel just with a candle VERY simple (As it had to be to teach M E ) Wish I knew how to bring it from my copier to the puter and I could send it to you all nimcomputes like me But I am sure BD must have a copy of it in HIS files and maybe just maybe HE can send it to the list Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From jbanne at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 13:22:08 2009 From: jbanne at gmail.com (Banne Jacques) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:22:08 +0200 Subject: [Woodcarver] Knife making question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Wood Carver I have made small knives with 1" metallic saw blade few years ago [22005/6?] and are still in use. metallic saw blade were from HSS, colored grey. sorry for my english regards Jacques Dans le passe j'ai fait des petits couteaux pour sculpter a partir d'une lame de scied mettalique d'un pouce de large. volila On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Joe Dillett wrote: > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > > Hi Arthur, > > I think what you're doing is great. The high-speed steel in the drill bit > should hold an edge providing the temper wasn't removed during processing. > If it was removed by over heating and if the carbon wasn't burned off you > can re-harden them and draw them back to 62 Rockwell (which is about where > they began). > > The steel from a drill bit should take more torque then the steel in a > straight razor which should be better for a small blade knife. > > Joe Dillett > The Carving Shop > 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 > Somonauk, IL. 60552 > > (815) 498-9290 phone > (815) 498-9249 fax > http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] > http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] > http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett > ****************************************************************** > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Oregonkarver at aol.com > *To:* woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > *Sent:* Friday, March 13, 2009 8:17 AM > *Subject:* Spam:***, [Woodcarver] Knife making question > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > ------------------------------ > > > > And now let us move on to other topics - does anyone have a burning > woodcarving question for this fine Friday? > > I hope this is a good question for this group. I have been looking at mini > carving knives lately since I have gotten into carving miniature carving and > other items that require small blades. Looked at several and thought they > were to high priced. > > With my wife not being happy about buying more tools. I decided to try > making my own out of old industrial 1/8" drill bits, these have a larger > shaft on the end for quick release so they should hold well in the handle > with epoxy I would think. I finished one the other day and it seems to be > working well and the edge seems to be holding up so far. I have made knives > out of old straight razor with very good success. > > > My question is I setting myself up for failure with making these. Will > the steel hold up? I guess if they don't at least I had some fun making > them. > > Arthur > > ------------------------------ > Need a job? Find employment help in your area > . > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mvickie1m at juno.com Fri Mar 13 13:37:50 2009 From: mvickie1m at juno.com (mvickie1m at juno.com) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:37:50 GMT Subject: [Woodcarver] Former member Elle Message-ID: <20090313.133750.5442.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com> Hi. I agree. Keep your aches and pains on YOUR e-mail. Keep woodcarving here. I have most of Chris Pye's books.One of many great carvers. This is my opinion ____________________________________________________________ New to Digital Photography? 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Have you noticed > less people attending shows, are they buying as much in the past? > What has been your experience ... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ There seem to be a lull in carving in OUR area Clubs are down (some have folded ) And sales are slow but NOT neccary because of the resession Like all hobies thing go up and down Like FOLKART paintiing and ceramics Older carvers die off and those tools come on the market > What about classes, club activities etc .. +++++++++++++++++++++++++.. Classes are going rather well still have an average of 40 coming per week but very few are interested in clubs > > I'd really appreciate any comments you can share ... > > Thanks much! > > Chris Whillock > Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf From thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com Fri Mar 13 13:47:26 2009 From: thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com (Larry Yudis) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:47:26 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Knife making question In-Reply-To: <2A5F21DCE62A4E308A9685B2B8FF4B0B@your27e1513d96> Message-ID: <20090313174735.D5A60E9D17@mailwash34.pair.com> >>>>> But I am sure BD must have a copy of it in HIS files and maybe just maybe HE can send it to the list Sorry Jan, but I don't have a copy. I heard him tell of his candle trick one time but never got anything in writing. Larry (BIG DOG) Yudis The Woodcraft Shop 2724 State St Bettendorf, IA 52722 800-397-2278 www.thewoodcraftshop.com Carol and Larry Yudis, Show Chairs International Woodcarvers Congress Affiliated Wood Carvers, Ltd. PO Box 104 Bettendorf, IA 52722 563-359-9684 (days) 563-355-3787 (evenings) www.awcltd.org _____ From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Jan Oegema Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 12:14 PM To: [Woodcarver] Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Knife making question What repicy do YOU have to harden (or unharden) steel Joe ?? Woodbutcher Jan ************************************************************ Hi Jan, Steel that can be harden must be high in carbon. One can burn carbon out of steel by overheating so care must be taken while grinding. Joe Dillett +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I have a repisy here from Harold Enlow He showed me how to harden and or soften steel just with a candle VERY simple (As it had to be to teach M E ) Wish I knew how to bring it from my copier to the puter and I could send it to you all nimcomputes like me But I am sure BD must have a copy of it in HIS files and maybe just maybe HE can send it to the list Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From zwwizard at msn.com Fri Mar 13 13:57:45 2009 From: zwwizard at msn.com (RICHARD L ROMBOLD) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:57:45 -0700 Subject: [Woodcarver] A Wizz at making tools ... In-Reply-To: <20090313163536.E008CE9D30@mailwash34.pair.com> References: <20090313163536.E008CE9D30@mailwash34.pair.com> Message-ID: You got it, I will add you to my "to do" list. ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Yudis To: '[Woodcarver]' I kinda thought that would be the case Wizz. Retirement is supposed to be a calm, restful time of one's life, not making tools under pressure! LOL! Since you were reminded to make a few more Adzes, would you make an extra one and send it to me with a bill. I'd love to buy one to add to my vast collection of tools that hardly get used. Larry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pilsl at uniontel.net Fri Mar 13 14:05:14 2009 From: pilsl at uniontel.net (Al and Sue Pilsl) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:05:14 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Carving Show Message-ID: Hello Everyone The Wisconsin River Woodcarvers will be holding their 9th Annual Woodcarving Show, Competition, and Sale on Saturday, March 21, 2009 and Sunday, March 22, 2009. It will be held at the Elizabeth Inn and Convention Center at the junction of Hwy. 54 and I-39 in Plover, Wisconsin between the hours of 9AM and 4PM. It is open to the public and admission is $2.00 (12 and under are free). There will be demonstrations throughout both days. This years "Featured Carver" is Joyce Klement. In addition, Larry and Carol Yudis will be present with all of their wonderful goodies from the Woodcraft Shop and John Krantz will have his usual supply of excellent carving wood. For further information contact Ron O'Kray at 715/341-2214 or Greg Wirtz at 715/423-0471. 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I decided to try making my own out of old industrial 1/8" drill bits, these have a larger shaft on the end for quick release so they should hold well in the handle with epoxy I would think. I finished one the other day and it seems to be working well and the edge seems to be holding up so far. I have made knives out of old straight razor with very good success. My question is I setting myself up for failure with making these. Will the steel hold up? I guess if they don't at least I had some fun making them. Arthur Maura _www.Carvinginnyc.com_ (http://www.carvinginnyc.com/) **************Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. (http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/growing-job-industries?ncid=emlcntuscare00000002) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From albisso at bresnan.net Fri Mar 13 14:06:48 2009 From: albisso at bresnan.net (Alex Bisso) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:06:48 -0600 Subject: [Woodcarver] Exacto Blades Message-ID: <7F471587C4414C33B14F78F9F6A605C2@Alex> I admit, the Exacto blades are brittle, as are most carbon steel blades. That is why they take and hold and edge so well. I personally have not noticed that they are more brittle than other carbon steel blades but they are a bit thinner and that could cause them to snap easier. Still, I think they are good for making micro-tools for carving details on miniature carvings. ALEX -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Linehan718 at aol.com Fri Mar 13 14:11:51 2009 From: Linehan718 at aol.com (Linehan718 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:11:51 EDT Subject: [Woodcarver] Knife making question Message-ID: In a message dated 3/13/2009 9:17:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Oregonkarver at aol.com writes: And now let us move on to other topics - does anyone have a burning woodcarving question for this fine Friday? I hope this is a good question for this group. I have been looking at mini carving knives lately since I have gotten into carving miniature carving and other items that require small blades. Looked at several and thought they were to high priced. With my wife not being happy about buying more tools. I decided to try making my own out of old industrial 1/8" drill bits, these have a larger shaft on the end for quick release so they should hold well in the handle with epoxy I would think. I finished one the other day and it seems to be working well and the edge seems to be holding up so far. I have made knives out of old straight razor with very good success. My question is I setting myself up for failure with making these. Will the steel hold up? I guess if they don't at least I had some fun making them. Arthur Sorry for the blank email, hitting buttons too fast. anyway as for the knife blades from drill bits I don't know but anything is worth trying once. If it works and serves your purpose,then great. I have a knife that someone made me from a little piece of a hacksaw blade and it is one of my favorites. I have it about 5 years now, love it. Its not really what you make it from, its about the steel you start with. good steel will give you good material to make a great knife. Bad steel can make something that you put lots of work into, looks great, but won't hold an edge for very long. Maura _www.Carvinginnyc.com_ (http://www.carvinginnyc.com/) **************Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. (http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/growing-job-industries?ncid=emlcntuscare00000002) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: Recieved another W3E carving from RAY LINKHART from Fort Wayne A VEY cool snowman Fits right in with our weather Still got mountains of snow around the place Thanks Ray and Matt Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From woodsignatures at bresnan.net Fri Mar 13 15:17:55 2009 From: woodsignatures at bresnan.net (Andre J) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:17:55 -0600 Subject: [Woodcarver] Cottonwood Bark carving Message-ID: I'm new to woodcarviing, been carving off and on for 2 years; I'm self-taught, still have tons to learn. I've settled on cottonwood bark as a medium, and my subject is woodspirit houses or gnome homes. I've recently focused on carving larger pieces of bark,up to 7 inches wide and 48 inches long; these have pieces of stained glass for windows, brass or copper window mullions, and doors that actually work. Could you please take the time to look at photos of my work and give me some feedback or constructive criticism? It would be much appreciated. I'm thinking of finding a gallery to display and sell my work, but don't know if I have "gallery quality" pieces. here is the link: http://picasaweb.google.com/yup.im.polish/Catalog?feat=directlink thanks for looking! and thank you in advance for your replies! Andre J Great Falls, Montana -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mepping at kc.rr.com Fri Mar 13 15:38:46 2009 From: mepping at kc.rr.com (Marty Epping) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:38:46 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] John Krantz in KC also Message-ID: Just A Heads up. John Krantz has decided to split his inventory and will attend and be represented at BOTH the Kansas City Show in Lee's Summit, MO (Friday 3/20/09 10am - 6pm Saturday 3/21/09 10am - 5pm ) and also the show in Wisconsin. I am sure that John would be glad to bring an order down to KC if anyone want to have him do that. if you need his contact info just let me know. Marty Epping Kansas City, MO USA mepping at kc.rr.com http://www.geocities.com/mepping2 http://www.flickr.com/photos/mepping2/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdillett at thecarvingshop.net Fri Mar 13 16:01:04 2009 From: jdillett at thecarvingshop.net (Joe Dillett) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:01:04 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Cottonwood Bark carving References: Message-ID: <3263B80543A44454A863839DFBAF16B5@Joe> Hi Andre, Nice work. I really like the running deer. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: Andre J To: [Woodcarver] Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 2:17 PM Subject: [Woodcarver] Cottonwood Bark carving Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I'm new to woodcarviing, been carving off and on for 2 years; I'm self-taught, still have tons to learn. I've settled on cottonwood bark as a medium, and my subject is woodspirit houses or gnome homes. I've recently focused on carving larger pieces of bark,up to 7 inches wide and 48 inches long; these have pieces of stained glass for windows, brass or copper window mullions, and doors that actually work. Could you please take the time to look at photos of my work and give me some feedback or constructive criticism? It would be much appreciated. I'm thinking of finding a gallery to display and sell my work, but don't know if I have "gallery quality" pieces. here is the link: http://picasaweb.google.com/yup.im.polish/Catalog?feat=directlink thanks for looking! and thank you in advance for your replies! Andre J Great Falls, Montana ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I heard him tell of his candle trick one time but never got anything in writing. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ NANANANANA I have it in writink I'll see If I kin find out how to transfer it to my P T album ASAP Larry (BIG DOG) Yudis Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jancarves3 at rogers.com Fri Mar 13 16:14:39 2009 From: jancarves3 at rogers.com (Jan Oegema) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:14:39 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Cottonwood Bark carving References: Message-ID: here is the link: http://picasaweb.google.com/yup.im.polish/Catalog?feat=directlink thanks for looking! and thank you in advance for your replies! Andre J +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Andre you floored me AWESOME carvings WOW!! Placed your site in my favourites Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From woodsignatures at bresnan.net Fri Mar 13 16:19:27 2009 From: woodsignatures at bresnan.net (Andre J) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:19:27 -0600 Subject: [Woodcarver] Clip art Message-ID: I purchased a book of clip art at a local bookstore and subscribed to an offer of free clip art - don't misunderstand this to be an attempt to sell anything! If you sign up you get an e-mail every Wednesday with a link to the free downloadable content, there are great ideas for woodcarving, woodburning and whatever, I've gotten some ideas and thought I would pass it along. http://www.doverpublications.com/designsampler/0311/ here is the link to sign up for the FREE sampler www.doverpublications.com/freesampler Andre J -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com Fri Mar 13 16:51:17 2009 From: thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com (Larry Yudis) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:51:17 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Cottonwood Bark carving In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090313205126.13284E9D38@mailwash34.pair.com> Hello Andre, A very impressive line-up of work. A lot of creativity involved in the execution and naming of your pieces. I don't see why you shouldn't be able to develop a market for your work. On a personal note, I would be more impressed with your carvings if they didn't have the adornments on them such as the window mullions, the chain railings, etc. Again, this is a personal thing ... many, if not most folks might like that. I prefer the carvings to be "all carved". Keep up the great work and you will find an outlet for it, I'm sure. Larry (BIG DOG) Yudis The Woodcraft Shop 2724 State St Bettendorf, IA 52722 800-397-2278 www.thewoodcraftshop.com Carol and Larry Yudis, Show Chairs International Woodcarvers Congress Affiliated Wood Carvers, Ltd. PO Box 104 Bettendorf, IA 52722 563-359-9684 (days) 563-355-3787 (evenings) www.awcltd.org _____ From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Andre J Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 2:18 PM To: [Woodcarver] Subject: [Woodcarver] Cottonwood Bark carving I'm new to woodcarviing, been carving off and on for 2 years; I'm self-taught, still have tons to learn. I've settled on cottonwood bark as a medium, and my subject is woodspirit houses or gnome homes. I've recently focused on carving larger pieces of bark,up to 7 inches wide and 48 inches long; these have pieces of stained glass for windows, brass or copper window mullions, and doors that actually work. Could you please take the time to look at photos of my work and give me some feedback or constructive criticism? It would be much appreciated. I'm thinking of finding a gallery to display and sell my work, but don't know if I have "gallery quality" pieces. here is the link: http://picasaweb.google.com/yup.im.polish/Catalog?feat=directlink thanks for looking! and thank you in advance for your replies! Andre J Great Falls, Montana -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From jdkc1982 at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 17:48:21 2009 From: jdkc1982 at gmail.com (Casey Willson) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:48:21 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Woodcarver Digest, Vol 1639, Issue 6 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: *Wow! I'm very impressed with your creativity and imagination! I'm even newer to this than you are and, with no cottonwood bark available, carve mostly in cedar and mostly walking sticks. Your creations impress me considerably. Unlike some I really like the other media additions. I think it is fine we're all different. I like multi-media things too when I'm not being a wood purist. * *What sells always depends on your market. I used to make gem trees and in certain places they sold and sold well. Other places I ended up marking them down to materials cost to sell them. And they, like carving, are labor intensive. * *Thanks for sending the link. Casey* Andre wrote: Could you please take the time to look at photos of my work and give me some feedback or constructive criticism? It would be much appreciated. I'm thinking of finding a gallery to display and sell my work, but don't know if I have "gallery quality" pieces. here is the link: http://picasaweb.google.com/yup.im.polish/Catalog?feat=directlink thanks for looking! and thank you in advance for your replies! Andre J Great Falls, Montana -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdillett at thecarvingshop.net Fri Mar 13 17:50:16 2009 From: jdillett at thecarvingshop.net (Joe Dillett) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:50:16 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] New Question from Chris Whillock References: <9EF684F4-C486-4F58-B66A-07F258F269F9@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5594A003DA4545E7965F2858517C7172@Joe> Hi Chris, What recession? Is there a recession going on that nobody told me about? I've noticed a drop-off is show sales over the last few years. Peoples' impulse-buying budget seemed to drop to an all-time low. The attendance dropped a little but the purchases dropped much lower. This has been my experience with shows in general and what other woodcarvers and crafters have told me. The last few years, before I retired the beginning of last year, my off-the-shelf sales were very slim so I relied on my backlog of commissions to keep me going. Our club, Fox Valley Woodcarvers, seems to be growing because it is a fairly new club. The South Suburban Chiselers, in South Holland Illinois, had hundreds of members, a museum and ran regular classes. That club is really struggling and meeting next Saturday to decide on whether it will fold up or not. I don't know what happened but I think the younger people did not get enough involved and the older members got too old to run it. With several buildings their operating budget, I believe $33K per year, is too large for a shrinking club to handle. They may be facing bankruptcy in a few months. The dynamics of clubs are interesting. It seem like the same rule of thumb applies to carving clubs, as with almost any organization, 20% of the people do 80% of the work. Some clubs seem to thrive because those few people who do the work are well liked, full of energy and work well with others. However get one or two &%#$& imposing their will on the club and it goes south pretty quickly. Another case is the younger member are not taking over because the older members still want things done their way. It's difficult with any group of individuals to keep everyone happy. I think the interest in classes is staying the same or even growing but the cost of the class is stopping them. It seems like some of the baby-boomers are wondering what they are going to do with all their retirement time. They are looking for something that doesn't cost too much and maybe even bring in a few extra dollars. A clay class that I'm taking now it cost $240 for 8 weeks from 6:30 to 9:30 Wednesday evenings. We get free firing and free 25 lbs of clay. We also get free studio time from noon to 10 PM on Tuesdays. The class included throwing and sculpting. We couldn't get 6 students so he decided to still run the class with 3 of us. Even with such a good deal it was spending the $240 that stopped most people from taking it. I feel the studio is loosing money but still needed some income. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Kelley" To: "Woodcarver List" Cc: "Chris Whillock" Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 11:36 AM Subject: [Woodcarver] New Question from Chris Whillock > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > > A question from Chris Whillock: > > >> From: Chris >> Date: March 13, 2009 7:03:08 AM GMT-04:00 >> >> >> Here is my question: >> >> Hello All, >> >> I have a question I've been wanting some feedback on..... >> >> Have carving shows been affected by the recession? Have you noticed less >> people attending shows, are they buying as much in the past? What has >> been your experience ... >> >> What about classes, club activities etc .... >> >> I'd really appreciate any comments you can share ... >> >> Thanks much! >> >> Chris Whillock >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > From jancarves3 at rogers.com Fri Mar 13 18:36:08 2009 From: jancarves3 at rogers.com (Jan Oegema) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:36:08 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Cottonwood bark Message-ID: <39687DB47DC74B35B6DCEBF8451009BB@your27e1513d96> Hi Casey if you are interested in cottonwoodbark write ALEX BISSO E-mail Address(es): albisso at bresnan.net albisso at bresnan.net Personal Information: Address: 44 Rimrock Rd Billings MT 59106 U S Phone: 406 655 4609 I have been getting a lot of his bark Like $2000> worth over the years and he is great to deal with and A! bark Goodluck and keep us posted as to how you fare No I do NOT get paid for writing this post LOL Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Dick Allen Marty Epping wrote: > > Just A Heads up. > I am sure that John would be glad to bring an order down to KC if > anyone want to have him do that. > if you need his contact info just let me know. > > Marty Epping > Kansas City, MO USA > mepping at kc.rr.com > http://www.geocities.com/mepping2 > http://www.flickr.com/photos/mepping2/ > > --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html --- From donpbk at yahoo.com Fri Mar 13 19:21:22 2009 From: donpbk at yahoo.com (Donna Menke) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:21:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <265782.5956.qm@web54307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Those are some cute small wolf carvings, Maura. How thick is your board- and what type of wood? I would want to save wood and I'd put the patterns much closer together- some upside down so that they would fit like an Escher drawing. No wonder I still have so much wood- I stretch each piece until it squeels! LOL Donna Menke http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book ----- Original Message ---- > From: "Linehan718 at aol.com" > To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 11:00:27 AM > Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop > at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > In a message dated 3/12/2009 7:57:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > fstuppy at hmc.psu.edu writes: > Do you have pictures > A picture of the wolves is on the front page of my > website. www.Carvinginnyc.com > Keep in mind when you look at it that its only 3/4" tall > > Maura > www.Carvinginnyc.com > > > > ________________________________ > Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. From donpbk at yahoo.com Fri Mar 13 19:24:08 2009 From: donpbk at yahoo.com (Donna Menke) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:24:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... In-Reply-To: References: <21753A3C-81B1-45D8-9B0B-E00B8DF7AB15@me.com><20090312161152.70DCE1BF7E3@smtp0.av-mx.com> <244890.29857.qm@web54306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <440626.70357.qm@web54305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Thanks, Jan. I did another few takes today but without success. Even with a good hair day and lots of make-up and the lights well arranged I cannot manage to look like a 45 year old. Hubby has kindly suggested I just voice over my hands and forget trying to lose the wrinkles. Big sigh. Donna Menke http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book ----- Original Message ---- > From: Jan Oegema > To: [Woodcarver] > Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:15:43 AM > Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop > at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > Donna wrotes in part ; > > I've taken another step in that direction in that now I am doing videos. Hubby > and I have been working for months to accumulate the equipment and knowledge so > that I can make process videos to sell at shows and seminars. It has been a > struggle but we finally got it all together and finished a trial- my trips of > last year for the kids and myself. One more bug to work out-menus- and then I'll > do the big hummingbird video. Did a trial intro and discovered all the things I > shouldn't do- like roll my eyes- not funny > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Congrats and goodluck > Wish you the best in your new endeavour > Ambitious girl you are I must say > Woodbutcher Jan > > > You are invited to check out my website.. > http://www.janscarvingstudio.com > > Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... > http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher > > http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ > > > http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From thomas_johnson at sbcglobal.net Fri Mar 13 19:25:56 2009 From: thomas_johnson at sbcglobal.net (THOMAS JOHNSON) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] Remove Message-ID: <153540.57998.qm@web81206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Please remove me from your list. thank you -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I've settled on cottonwood bark as a medium, and my subject is woodspirit houses or gnome homes. I've recently focused on carving larger pieces of bark,up to 7 inches wide and 48 inches long; these have pieces of stained glass for windows, brass or copper window mullions, and doors that actually work. Could you please take the time to look at photos of my work and give me some feedback or constructive criticism? It would be much appreciated. I'm thinking of finding a gallery to display and sell my work, but don't know if I have "gallery quality" pieces. here is the link: http://picasaweb.google.com/yup.im.polish/Catalog?feat=directlink thanks for looking! and thank you in advance for your replies! 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URL: From donpbk at yahoo.com Fri Mar 13 19:34:17 2009 From: donpbk at yahoo.com (Donna Menke) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:34:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] Question of the day. In-Reply-To: <40BA2C6C8663424FA0040697D7AB35CA@Joe> References: <21753A3C-81B1-45D8-9B0B-E00B8DF7AB15@me.com><20090312161152.70DCE1BF7E3@smtp0.av-mx.com> <244890.29857.qm@web54306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <40BA2C6C8663424FA0040697D7AB35CA@Joe> Message-ID: <507358.41599.qm@web54302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Joe- until recently income and outgo were about even (I took a lot of classes, bought a lot of tools, wood, and books- so it was a non-issue what to do with the money generated. Now income outstrips outgo, (teaching classes, selling blanks, and the book, but is still isn't anything to worry about. We have always just thrown everything into the pot and taken out as needed, so other than the bookkeeping there is nothing to count. I like my hobbies to pay for themselves- and with the exception of harp playing they have always at least broken even. If you have listened to my harp playing you know it will never generate income.LOL I try to price my wares just a little over cost plus $10/hour- like my blanks for $2.50 with 2 pages of instructions and pin- no room there for real profit. But I like to think that I am providing a service for people who want to make my projects and cannot cut their own blanks. Not entirely selfless- but not greedy either. The videos will not cost as much as most people charge because like everything I do it is all in house- done without outside help or cost. It may not be as professional looking, but it will get the info across. Donna Menke http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book ----- Original Message ---- > From: Joe Dillett > To: [Woodcarver] > Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:48:12 AM > Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Question of the day. > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop > at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > Hi Donna, > > Your videos sound like an exciting venture. I hope they sell like hot cakes. > > This brings up an interesting question about money made from carving and carving > related activities. > > 1) How many of us try to generate a steady flow of income from your carving and > carving related activities? This would include everything from a few dollars up. > Yes or no is ok but expand your answer if you like. > > 2) Next question, related to our struggling economy, do you put that money > generated from carving back into caving related purchases or use it to live on? > > Joe Dillett > The Carving Shop > 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 > Somonauk, IL. 60552 > > (815) 498-9290 phone > (815) 498-9249 fax > http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] > http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] > http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett > ****************************************************************** > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Menke" > To: "[Woodcarver]" > Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:00 AM > Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... > > > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > > > > > > Marcia- > > Looking at your Maine Coon cat blog was interesting- reminded me of my Emily > dachshund blog. I added another blog to my little collection- the portrait one. > These things are addictive- like you mentioned that you may do another one too. > It seems strange to carve without documentation any more. > > I've taken another step in that direction in that now I am doing videos. Hubby > and I have been working for months to accumulate the equipment and knowledge so > that I can make process videos to sell at shows and seminars. It has been a > struggle but we finally got it all together and finished a trial- my trips of > last year for the kids and myself. One more bug to work out-menus- and then I'll > do the big hummingbird video. Did a trial intro and discovered all the things I > shouldn't do- like roll my eyes- not funny. > > I also completed yesterday the 7-page booklet for carving the Peeking Mouse > for my classes and blanks. It is also planned for an upcoming issue of Carving > Magazine. > > > > And- I'm sanding on a 3" Celtic Triad in figured maple- talk about a trial. It > will be gorgeous- but the sanding is tedious in the extreme. Kinda like > texturing a cat- eh! > > Donna Menke > > http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com > > Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > >> From: Marcia Berkall > >> To: [Woodcarver] > >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 11:11:50 AM > >> Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... > >> > >> Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop > >> at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > >> > >> > >> LOL I just have to chuckle when "fearless leader" hits > >> the wrong button :) There are times when I might have caught you on > >> the other end of the day...carving into the wee hours of the > >> morning. > >> > >> I'm up to my eyeballs in work. I'm still working on the life size > >> Maine Coon Cat carving. This has been a real stretch for me. > >> (I love commissions for that reason.) Never have I done so much > >> texturing! I hope to have that finished in the next few days, then > >> turn my attention to painting it. I got side tracked from > >> this carving for a while due to my husband's surgery back in October and > >> then the holiday stuff. Fortunately this client has a > >> "whenever it's ready" mentality about it, for which I am > >> eternally grateful! I set up a blog for her to watch the progress, > >> slow as it is. > >> http://cahvah.wordpress.com/home/maine-coon-cat-carvingin-progress/ I'll > >> probably be uploading a new picture in the next day or > >> two. > >> > >> I have also completed another veteran's cane and am working on a wood > >> spirit with a 250-year-old slab of wood that was raised from the bottom > >> of the Penobscot River. It's part of a wood recovery program and > >> this carving will become part of the heritage foundation > >> collection. The theme has to be either Native American or logging > >> related. I'm discovering some solutions for working with this old > >> brittle wood and am documenting the progress for,hopefully,a future > >> Carving Magazine Article. > >> > >> I'm also about to start teaching another Adult Ed 6-week Right Brain > >> Drawing class next week. > >> > >> As for strop compounds, I haven't tried the green compound. I've pretty > >> much stuck with the silicon carbide in oil suspension that one of my > >> favorite knife makers uses. I guess I'm of the opinion that > >> whatever works for you is the best one. That one doesn't work well > >> on the buffing wheel, so I might give the green compound a try for > >> that. > >> > >> Thanks, Matt, for getting this started! > >> > >> Marcia (aka Mush) > >> South China, Maine > >> > >> See Marcia's wood carvings > >> at: > >> > >> http://whittlinsnwood.com > >> Blog: http://cahvah.wordpress.com/ > >> ***** > >> Affordable Web Page > >> Design: > >> http://artwebmaine.com > >> ***** > >> > >> Get 20% Off CoffeeCup Web Design Software > >> Use this code when you checkout: 226STS > >> www.getcoffeecup.com > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Woodcarver mailing list > > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > > > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From gmcdaniel1603 at charter.net Fri Mar 13 20:00:08 2009 From: gmcdaniel1603 at charter.net (Gary McDaniel) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:00:08 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] AM I LUCKY? or WHAT?? References: Message-ID: <066901c9a437$d6e554c0$6501a8c0@Karens> I don't know who to contact because I'm not a member of this board, but my husband Gary McDaniel is. Is there any way you could change his e-mail address to: 3Crosses51 at charter.net? I use his old address and it gets a bit difficult and time consuming to "forward" all these emails to him. I (and he) would appreciate it very much. Thank you! A carver's wife ----- Original Message ----- From: Jan Oegema To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com ; woodcarvingfun at yahoogroups.com ; HouseOfWoodCarving at yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 1:20 PM Subject: [Woodcarver] AM I LUCKY? or WHAT?? Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Recieved another W3E carving from RAY LINKHART from Fort Wayne A VEY cool snowman Fits right in with our weather Still got mountains of snow around the place Thanks Ray and Matt Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. 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Most recently I tried leather preservative, some of the beeswax formulas result in a dark finish, the silicone formulas give a lighter finish, after applying the preservative I use a hair dryer to heat the product to make it penetrate the wood; after a few days I spray Deft Clear Wood Finish Satin as a topcoat. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whitwood at fairpoint.net Fri Mar 13 21:12:42 2009 From: whitwood at fairpoint.net (Marcia Berkall) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:12:42 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Exacto Blades In-Reply-To: <7F471587C4414C33B14F78F9F6A605C2@Alex> References: <7F471587C4414C33B14F78F9F6A605C2@Alex> Message-ID: <20090314011240.DF68C1BFD6F@smtp0.av-mx.com> For what it's worth...I use X-acto #16 blades for detail carving. The company was sold a few years ago and they are now made in China. I used to be able to strop those blades repeatedly and they'd last a very long time. Since the change in ownership the quality has gone way down...they don't hold an edge anywhere near as well as they used to... sad! Marcia At 02:06 PM 3/13/2009, you wrote: >I admit, the Exacto blades are brittle, as are most carbon steel >blades. That is why they take and hold and edge so well. I >personally have not noticed that they are more brittle than other >carbon steel blades but they are a bit thinner and that could cause >them to snap easier. Still, I think they are good for making >micro-tools for carving details on miniature carvings. >A See Marcia's wood carvings at: http://whittlinsnwood.com Blog: http://cahvah.wordpress.com/ ***** Affordable Web Page Design: http://artwebmaine.com ***** Get 20% Off CoffeeCup Web Design Software Use this code when you checkout: 226STS www.getcoffeecup.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <440626.70357.qm@web54305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <21753A3C-81B1-45D8-9B0B-E00B8DF7AB15@me.com><20090312161152.70DCE1BF7E3@smtp0.av-mx.com><244890.29857.qm@web54306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <440626.70357.qm@web54305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <291778FB25AA4E39A7AB015A8669FAA2@LAPTOP1> Donna.... There ain't nothing wrong with wrinkles. Wisdom lines........... Barney -----Original Message----- From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Donna Menke Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 7:24 PM To: [Woodcarver] Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Thanks, Jan. I did another few takes today but without success. Even with a good hair day and lots of make-up and the lights well arranged I cannot manage to look like a 45 year old. Hubby has kindly suggested I just voice over my hands and forget trying to lose the wrinkles. Big sigh. Donna Menke http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book ----- Original Message ---- > From: Jan Oegema > To: [Woodcarver] > Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:15:43 AM > Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop > at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > Donna wrotes in part ; > > I've taken another step in that direction in that now I am doing videos. Hubby > and I have been working for months to accumulate the equipment and knowledge so > that I can make process videos to sell at shows and seminars. It has been a > struggle but we finally got it all together and finished a trial- my trips of > last year for the kids and myself. One more bug to work out-menus- and then I'll > do the big hummingbird video. Did a trial intro and discovered all the things I > shouldn't do- like roll my eyes- not funny > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Congrats and goodluck > Wish you the best in your new endeavour > Ambitious girl you are I must say > Woodbutcher Jan > > > You are invited to check out my website.. > http://www.janscarvingstudio.com > > Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... > http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher > > http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ > > > http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From whitwood at fairpoint.net Fri Mar 13 22:20:31 2009 From: whitwood at fairpoint.net (Marcia Berkall) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 22:20:31 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Question of the day. In-Reply-To: References: <21753A3C-81B1-45D8-9B0B-E00B8DF7AB15@me.com> <20090312161152.70DCE1BF7E3@smtp0.av-mx.com> <244890.29857.qm@web54306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <40BA2C6C8663424FA0040697D7AB35CA@Joe> <20090313142010.CED541BF9E5@smtp0.av-mx.com> Message-ID: <20090314022029.6014C1BF8F7@smtp0.av-mx.com> Jan, I didn't say it was a BIG portion!! LOL Fortunately I have a husband who has a real job! :) Mush ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jan said: >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >Now there is an IDEA > >use the carving income for living expenses >In that case I'd b e AS SKINNY AS A RAIL > Woodbutcher Jan See Marcia's wood carvings at: http://whittlinsnwood.com Blog: http://cahvah.wordpress.com/ ***** Affordable Web Page Design: http://artwebmaine.com ***** Get 20% Off CoffeeCup Web Design Software Use this code when you checkout: 226STS www.getcoffeecup.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On the subject of spending earnings on tools, The bit I liked most when I was earning my living from carving was that tools were tax deductable as a result I bought all the tools I would ever need even some I don't. Peter Woodcarvings and Wildlife Sculptures http://www.watsonwoodcarver.com From dge1 at comcast.net Sat Mar 14 07:44:38 2009 From: dge1 at comcast.net (Doug Evans) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 07:44:38 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] 2009 Metro Carvers of Michigan Annual Show Message-ID: <001b01c9a49a$4223a180$c66ae480$@net> Hi all, Just announcing our annual show NEXT weekend March 21st and March 22nd. Saturday hours are 10-5 and Sunday 10:30 - 4pm. It will be at our usual location in Madison Heights, 876 Horace Brown Drive(48071) South of 13 Mile between I-75 and John R. Our tables sales are way up this year( it will be cozy !) so we really feel good about this with the current economic conditions. For more info. Email me or call at 248-298-6411. Be sure to say "howdy" if you stop by. Any of our club members should be able to find me !! Thanks !!! Doug Evans From jancarves3 at rogers.com Sat Mar 14 08:01:52 2009 From: jancarves3 at rogers.com (Jan Oegema) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 08:01:52 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Question of the day. References: <21753A3C-81B1-45D8-9B0B-E00B8DF7AB15@me.com><20090312161152.70DCE1BF7E3@smtp0.av-mx.com><244890.29857.qm@web54306.mail.re2.yahoo.com><40BA2C6C8663424FA0040697D7AB35CA@Joe> <507358.41599.qm@web54302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3FAEF99C26A841A4A935978707859EC4@your27e1513d96> Donna wrotes in part I like my hobbies to pay for themselves- and with the exception of harp playing they have always at least broken even. If you have listened to my harp playing you know it will never generate income.LOL ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Jn that case You might have to pull a string or two Donna Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf From larryodegard at yahoo.com Sat Mar 14 08:20:17 2009 From: larryodegard at yahoo.com (Larry Odegard) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 05:20:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] Knife making question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <396014.78458.qm@web33208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Wizz, Your tools are a work of art.? AND it seemed so right to see Big Dog spend some of MY money on your adz. Larry Odegard Choose to have a great day! http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tnbosco at msn.com Sat Mar 14 08:23:59 2009 From: tnbosco at msn.com (STEPHEN L MENDELSOHN) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 07:23:59 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] making knives In-Reply-To: <6.0.3.0.1.20090314183226.0249e250@mail.iinet.net.au> References: <6.0.3.0.1.20090314183226.0249e250@mail.iinet.net.au> Message-ID: If you will take your time and slow grind, there are numerous knives that can be made by adapting other types of knives for woodcarving. I have made super carving knives from straight razors, poultry knives, kitchen knives, and my favorite is the electrical one piece wire skinning knives used by telephone installers and available at Home Depot or Lowes. Happy Carving. Steve > Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:39:23 +0900 > To: woodcarver at six.pairlist.net > From: watsonb at iinet.com.au > Subject: [Woodcarver] making knives > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > Now thats what I call action on the list. > I think I counted 101today. > > As for making knives I like Jaques used hacksaw blades and found them good > but now I use old jigsaw blades They are a perfect size and the steel is > exceptional. > I glue them between two pieces of wood with an epoxy glue then carfully > grind to the shape I want . > They take and hold a terrific edge even when I use them on our local hard > woods. > > On the subject of spending earnings on tools, The bit I liked most when I > was earning my living from carving was that tools were tax deductable as a > result I bought all the tools I would ever need even some I don't. > > Peter > > > Woodcarvings and Wildlife Sculptures > http://www.watsonwoodcarver.com > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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PO Box 104 Bettendorf, IA 52722 563-359-9684 (days) 563-355-3787 (evenings) www.awcltd.org _____ From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Larry Odegard Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 7:20 AM To: [Woodcarver] Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Knife making question Wizz, Your tools are a work of art. AND it seemed so right to see Big Dog spend some of MY money on your adz. Larry Odegard Choose to have a great day! http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, Wayne Olsen Dispute Mediation Services Emergency Management & Business Continuity Programs 913-660-4090 From: thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com To: larryodegard at yahoo.com; woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:33:03 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Keep the dollars moving ... a new stimulus package! LarryO said: AND it seemed so right to see Big Dog spend some of MY money on your adz. Cute, Larry ... very cute! LOL! Larry (BIG DOG) Yudis The Woodcraft Shop 2724 State St Bettendorf, IA 52722 800-397-2278 www.thewoodcraftshop.com Carol and Larry Yudis, Show Chairs International Woodcarvers Congress Affiliated Wood Carvers, Ltd. PO Box 104 Bettendorf, IA 52722 563-359-9684 (days) 563-355-3787 (evenings) www.awcltd.org From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Larry Odegard Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 7:20 AM To: [Woodcarver] Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Knife making question Wizz, Your tools are a work of art. AND it seemed so right to see Big Dog spend some of MY money on your adz. Larry Odegard Choose to have a great day! http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From woodsignatures at bresnan.net Sat Mar 14 12:42:52 2009 From: woodsignatures at bresnan.net (Andre J) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 10:42:52 -0600 Subject: [Woodcarver] Reasons to stay on the list In-Reply-To: References: <396014.78458.qm@web33208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20090314143313.69930E9D31@mailwash34.pair.com> Message-ID: Hear - Hear! I agree completly; just take the good with the bad, use what you need! Andre J > "I lurk on this list because I learn with every note I read. The past > few days with discussion of tool making, economics and sales has been > especially interesting. > I'm sorry several people feel overwhelmed by the volume of traffic and > have asked to be dropped, but (speaking only for myself) please continue > with teaching, discussing and joking with each other. Perhaps in time I'll > become a good enough carver to contribute to the discussion." > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Linehan718 at aol.com Sat Mar 14 12:46:04 2009 From: Linehan718 at aol.com (Linehan718 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:46:04 EDT Subject: [Woodcarver] Reasons to stay on the list Message-ID: In a message dated 3/14/2009 11:33:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wayne_olsen at msn.com writes: I lurk on this list because I learn with every note I read. The past few days with discussion of tool making, economics and sales has been especially interesting. I'm sorry several people feel overwhelmed by the volume of traffic and have asked to be dropped, but (speaking only for myself) please continue with teaching, discussing and joking with each other. Perhaps in time I'll become a good enough carver to contribute to the discussion. Thanks, Wayne Olsen Hi Wayne, you are "good enough" to start contributing now and I am glad you are getting something from our banter. I urge you to jump in now and then. I started "bothering these fine people from the first day I joined the list. It is the beginners who actually ask the questions that spark the most interest. Sometimes the more experienced of us forget the basics that need to be learned, things that we do automatically and no longer think about. I started out 7 years ago and I can not tell you the amount of knowledge that I now possess and it is primarily due to what I learned on this list and others. It is also wonderful to have made so many great friends, some who I have even met in person and spoken to by phone. Someone once referred to my computer carving friends as "my imaginary friends" but I can assure you, everyone is very real and on top of that, the friends I have made through woodcarving are just the best bunch of people I have ever met. We can always use another friend, so consider yourself one of the family and jump right in. Maura _www.Carvinginnyc.com_ (http://www.carvinginnyc.com/) **************Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. (http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/growing-job-industries?ncid=emlcntuscare00000002) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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BIG DOG _____ From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Jan Oegema Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:38 PM To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Subject: [Woodcarver] Fw: Amazing woodcarvings found on the web today Your search - http://picasaweb.google.com/Chacien - did not match any documents Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:28 PM Subject: [Woodcarver] Amazing woodcarvings found on the web today Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving _____ I stumbled across this man's woodcarvings today and thought that others would enjoy seeing them as well. The site is not in English and I wish that I knew the language but, this does not lessen the enjoyment of viewing his work. http://picasaweb.google.com/Chacien Richard Brown Peculiar, Missouri Wanna Be Woodcarver _____ A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! _____ _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com Sat Mar 14 13:51:24 2009 From: thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com (Larry Yudis) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:51:24 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Reasons to stay on the list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090314175137.A63C9E9D30@mailwash34.pair.com> Jump right in anytime Wayne. There is no question too menial or dumb to ask. But you may get some dumb answers from some of the yay-hoos on the list. Present company excluded, of course! :o) There are times that your services would really come in handy. I see by your tag line that you are into "Dispute Mediation Services". Could be helpful if we start getting carried away with some point or another! LOL! Get out of "lurking mode" and join the fun. Larry (BIG DOG) Yudis The Woodcraft Shop 2724 State St Bettendorf, IA 52722 800-397-2278 www.thewoodcraftshop.com Carol and Larry Yudis, Show Chairs International Woodcarvers Congress Affiliated Wood Carvers, Ltd. PO Box 104 Bettendorf, IA 52722 563-359-9684 (days) 563-355-3787 (evenings) www.awcltd.org _____ From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Olsen Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 10:33 AM To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Subject: [Woodcarver] Reasons to stay on the list I lurk on this list because I learn with every note I read. The past few days with discussion of tool making, economics and sales has been especially interesting. I'm sorry several people feel overwhelmed by the volume of traffic and have asked to be dropped, but (speaking only for myself) please continue with teaching, discussing and joking with each other. Perhaps in time I'll become a good enough carver to contribute to the discussion. Thanks, Wayne Olsen Dispute Mediation Services Emergency Management & Business Continuity Programs 913-660-4090 _____ From: thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com To: larryodegard at yahoo.com; woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:33:03 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Keep the dollars moving ... a new stimulus package! LarryO said: AND it seemed so right to see Big Dog spend some of MY money on your adz. Cute, Larry ... very cute! LOL! Larry (BIG DOG) Yudis The Woodcraft Shop 2724 State St Bettendorf, IA 52722 800-397-2278 www.thewoodcraftshop.com Carol and Larry Yudis, Show Chairs International Woodcarvers Congress Affiliated Wood Carvers, Ltd. PO Box 104 Bettendorf, IA 52722 563-359-9684 (days) 563-355-3787 (evenings) www.awcltd.org _____ From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Larry Odegard Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 7:20 AM To: [Woodcarver] Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Knife making question Wizz, Your tools are a work of art. AND it seemed so right to see Big Dog spend some of MY money on your adz. Larry Odegard Choose to have a great day! http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donpbk at yahoo.com Sat Mar 14 14:09:02 2009 From: donpbk at yahoo.com (Donna Menke) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 11:09:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] Fw: Amazing woodcarvings found on the web today In-Reply-To: <20090314174559.CFC17E9D1C@mailwash34.pair.com> References: <20090314174559.CFC17E9D1C@mailwash34.pair.com> Message-ID: <496117.51549.qm@web54305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Worked fine for me. I'm with BD- those reliefs are something to see- and the big bird- wow. Donna Menke http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book ----- Original Message ---- > From: Larry Yudis > To: [Woodcarver] > Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:45:55 PM > Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Fw: Amazing woodcarvings found on the web today > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop > at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > > Hey WB Jan, > > Something wrong with your Dutch > computer??? > > I saw the carvings and they are > wonderful. > > BIG DOG > > > > > ________________________________ > From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com > [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Jan > Oegema > Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 12:38 PM > To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > Subject: [Woodcarver] Fw: Amazing > woodcarvings found on the web today > > > Your search - http://picasaweb.google.com/Chacien - > did not match any documents > > Woodbutcher Jan > > > You are invited to check out my > website.. > http://www.janscarvingstudio.com > > Also > take a look at my picture trail albums > ... > http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher > > http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ > > > http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Richard > To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:28 PM > Subject: [Woodcarver] Amazing woodcarvings found on the web > today > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' > Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > > ________________________________ > I stumbled across this man's woodcarvings today and thought that others > would enjoy seeing them as well. The site is not in English and I wish that I > knew the language but, this does not lessen the enjoyment of viewing his work. > > http://picasaweb.google.com/Chacien > > > Richard Brown > Peculiar, Missouri > > Wanna Be Woodcarver > > > ________________________________ > A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See > yours in just 2 easy steps! > ________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing > list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From rmuller at nep.net Sat Mar 14 15:07:32 2009 From: rmuller at nep.net (Robert Muller Jr) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 15:07:32 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Koch Sharpening Message-ID: <18109A6B479D4AF4AD4EB1475F111037@woodcarver> I don't post much on the list, but check about every message and have learned some things and find it interesting. I had a question about the Koch sharpening system. Does anyone have any experience using the system? I know it is expensive, but I am curious if anyone is using it on a regular basis. Besides, my birthday, father's day, anniversary and Christmas are all coming up. Thanks for the info. Bob Muller Cherry Ridge Carvers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From scrimshaw at aptalaska.net Sat Mar 14 16:04:25 2009 From: scrimshaw at aptalaska.net (Steve Lankerd Sr) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:04:25 -0800 Subject: [Woodcarver] Koch Sharpening References: <18109A6B479D4AF4AD4EB1475F111037@woodcarver> Message-ID: <13CC7D26A180475B8C5C448DCF7287AB@zuke1> Hi there Bob, I don't know anything about the Koch but after looking at it at Woodcraft, it looks ok, but I'm a solid believer in my Tormek. Anything else similar to the Tormek, like the Jet, are just wannabes. I'm very comfortable with a 70 rpm water-cooled wheel, lots of attachments and a great leather stropping wheel. A few times I don't set up the jigs, I sharpen by eye for a quick touch up. And, if you get good at it you can make money sharpening things for people. I charge $2.00 a long knife and $1.00 for a short one. I've saved many a butcher knife for hunters that started out being serrated. I've had my Tormek for a few years and already I've made enough to cover half of my investment, plus, I have the sharpest chisels, gouges, knives and turning tools in town. Just my opinion..... Best Regards, Steve Steve Lankerd Sr Metlakatla, Alaska http://www.stevelankerdstudio.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Muller Jr To: woodcarver at six.pairlist.net Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 11:07 AM Subject: [Woodcarver] Koch Sharpening Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I don't post much on the list, but check about every message and have learned some things and find it interesting. I had a question about the Koch sharpening system. Does anyone have any experience using the system? I know it is expensive, but I am curious if anyone is using it on a regular basis. Besides, my birthday, father's day, anniversary and Christmas are all coming up. Thanks for the info. Bob Muller Cherry Ridge Carvers ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jay at thewaytech.com Sat Mar 14 17:35:57 2009 From: jay at thewaytech.com (Jay Henson) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:35:57 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Reasons to stay on the list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20090314171443.036d65c8@mail.thewaytech.com> I figured I'd jump in since I'm a relative newbie on the list. I enjoy the personalities this list has. I started getting the digest and switched over to the regular list in the first few days for that very reason. The first couple of weeks I got enough information both from the list and directly from the helpful folks here to keep me very busy with all the resources that were suggested. I spent about 19 hours straight working on servers at work since Friday morning (guess that makes this Saturday here) and still enjoy the break of reading about what folks are doing. I did take a break this week from my chip carving practice and making piles of neat little basswood triangles from my practice boards to work on an idea I've had for a while. Now I've got a pile of Butternut shavings, from my first attempt at carving a Mobius strip (a solid loop with only one side and one edge) from a small block. Guess it isn't a "normal" type carving but I enjoy trying out new things. Before I discovered chip carving and this list my range of tools for the last 30 something years has consisted of one well worn bench knife and a few needle files. It is amazing how easy things are when you have the right tools. Thands to all the folks willing to offer advice. I'm sure I'll have more questions. Jay jay at thewaytech.com At 12:46 PM 3/14/2009, you wrote: >Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' >Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > > > >__________ NOD32 3936 (20090313) Information __________ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.eset.com > >In a message dated 3/14/2009 11:33:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >wayne_olsen at msn.com writes: > I lurk on this list because I learn with every note I read. The > past few days with discussion of tool making, economics and sales > has been especially interesting. > I'm sorry several people feel overwhelmed by the volume of > traffic and have asked to be dropped, but (speaking only for > myself) please continue with teaching, discussing and joking with > each other. Perhaps in time I'll become a good enough carver to > contribute to the discussion. > > >Thanks, > >Wayne Olsen > >Hi Wayne, you are "good enough" to start contributing now and I am >glad you are getting something from our banter. I urge you to jump >in now and then. I started "bothering these fine people from the >first day I joined the list. It is the beginners who actually ask >the questions that spark the most interest. Sometimes the more >experienced of us forget the basics that need to be learned, things >that we do automatically and no longer think about. I started out 7 >years ago and I can not tell you the amount of knowledge that I now >possess and it is primarily due to what I learned on this list and >others. It is also wonderful to have made so many great friends, >some who I have even met in person and spoken to by phone. Someone >once referred to my computer carving friends as "my imaginary >friends" but I can assure you, everyone is very real and on top of >that, the friends I have made through woodcarving are just the best >bunch of people I have ever met. 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Woodbutcher Jan ***************************************************** Jan, in one of our fun moments in Ivan's class he discussed punches, like for eyes. The discussion lend to the benefits of having a whole face punch. I don't know if Ivan ever got around to making it. Like I said, it was a fun class with lots of laughs. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Linehan718 at aol.com Sun Mar 15 01:44:00 2009 From: Linehan718 at aol.com (Linehan718 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 01:44:00 EDT Subject: [Woodcarver] Koch Sharpening Message-ID: I do not have the full motorized system but I do use Koch wheels and Koch paste. I have tried a lot of other wheels, and quite honestly they are the best I have ever used. Nora Hall, the Master carver, originally from holland and her company sells presharpened dastra tools and they use the Koch wheels and paste exclusively. I used to sell a lot of videos for her and they gave me a couple of the wheels and the paste at a dirt cheap price as a top sellers bonus and let me tell you, I would gladly pay 4 or 5 times the price without blinking. They are really that good. The wheels are made of a special compressed fiber. I haven't figured out what it is, its not felt and its not fiberglass, but something in between. When you use the wheels in combo with the paste, the paste liquefies on the tool and keeps it from burning. I use my home-built system to sharpen all of my students tools and I have easily sharpened 300-500 tools just in the last year and there is really not much noticeable wear. Let me also say that I use these wheels on a regular grinder set up, turning at full speed and still have never burnt a tool. The wheels themselves are quite pricey at about $45 each and if you want to save some dough, make your own system, put a long spindle on both sides and put a red and blue on one side and a green and yellow on the other side. Also throw a few cotton wheels on the ends. get the paste, dedicate on wheel for straight edges, another for gouges, and leave the other two for honing and the cotton wheels for polishing. You will have to figure out the colors and the different grits. I use yellow and green. I really love it and don't think you'll be disappointed. Maura _www.Carvinginnyc.com_ (http://www.carvinginnyc.com/) **************Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. (http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/growing-job-industries?ncid=emlcntuscare00000002) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whitwood at fairpoint.net Sun Mar 15 01:52:47 2009 From: whitwood at fairpoint.net (Marcia Berkall) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 01:52:47 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Sunday Woodcarver Chat Message-ID: <20090315055248.5A0962909D9@smtp1.av-mx.com> Join in on the fun!!! For informative and fun REAL TIME conversations with a number of the carvers on "The List", come to the Woodcarver chats. We don't always talk about carving, but if anyone has a question or comment, we can get serious in a hurry. Get to know the people behind the names. And bring you carving questions with you!!! We meet on Wednesday nights at 9:30 PM Eastern and on Sundays at 4:30 PM Eastern. If you are NOT using an IRC chat program, I think you will like these simplified instructions!!! Just click on one of the links below...either will take you directly to #Woodcarverchat http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_williamslake.html?chan=#Woodcarverchat http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_stopover.html?chan=#woodcarverchat This may take a LONG time to load!!!!!!! Don't give up. When it finally does load, you will be asked to type in a nickname.....then click connect, and wait a little bit longer. The chat screen will open. Type something in the narrow horizontal space just below the chat screen and hit you enter key. Nothing to it! :) If you are using WebTV or still have trouble getting there, one of these links will work...we just save them as a last resort in case all other links don't work: http://63.79.14.90/cgi-bin/irc.cgi http://cobra-ip1.vipershells.com/cgi-bin/irc.cgi http://stopover.ky.us.starlink-irc.org/cgi-bin/irc.cgi (This one will have the fastest connection) Type in a nickname where it says"nickname"i Where is says, "channel", type in #woodcarverchat (don't forget the #). ******* If you are using an mIRC chat program: 1. Log onto your ISP. 2. Open mIRC. You should see a box "mIRC Options". If you don't then click on View then on "Options" Fill in the information there...you do NOT have to put in your real name or email address. For security purposes, make them up. Do put in the nickname you want and an alternative. 4. Click on the button with the sunburst icon, just to the right of the button that says, "Connect to Server". Where it says "IRC Network", scroll down until you see "Starlink-IRC" and highlight that so it shows in the window. There is also a Starlink network, so make sure that the one you select has the "IRC" after it. Now click on the arrow next to the IRC server window. That will list a number of Starlink-IRC servers....select one of them. The Starlink-IRC random server will automatically pick one of the servers for you, so you can use that one. With one of the Starlink-IRC servers in the window, click on "Connect to Server" If the Starlink Random Server is not in your mirc program you can add it: Click the "add" button. Where it says "Description" type "Starlink Random Server" Where it says "IRC Server" type IRC.STARLINK-IRC.ORG Port should be 6664,6665,6666,6667,6668,6669 (all of those with no spaces between them) and "Group" is Starlink-IRC 5. Once connected, you'll see lots of scrolling text. 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Bob Muller _____ From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Linehan718 at aol.com Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 1:44 AM To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Koch Sharpening I do not have the full motorized system but I do use Koch wheels and Koch paste. I have tried a lot of other wheels, and quite honestly they are the best I have ever used. Nora Hall, the Master carver, originally from holland and her company sells presharpened dastra tools and they use the Koch wheels and paste exclusively. I used to sell a lot of videos for her and they gave me a couple of the wheels and the paste at a dirt cheap price as a top sellers bonus and let me tell you, I would gladly pay 4 or 5 times the price without blinking. They are really that good. The wheels are made of a special compressed fiber. I haven't figured out what it is, its not felt and its not fiberglass, but something in between. When you use the wheels in combo with the paste, the paste liquefies on the tool and keeps it from burning. I use my home-built system to sharpen all of my students tools and I have easily sharpened 300-500 tools just in the last year and there is really not much noticeable wear. Let me also say that I use these wheels on a regular grinder set up, turning at full speed and still have never burnt a tool. The wheels themselves are quite pricey at about $45 each and if you want to save some dough, make your own system, put a long spindle on both sides and put a red and blue on one side and a green and yellow on the other side. Also throw a few cotton wheels on the ends. get the paste, dedicate on wheel for straight edges, another for gouges, and leave the other two for honing and the cotton wheels for polishing. You will have to figure out the colors and the different grits. I use yellow and green. I really love it and don't think you'll be disappointed. 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Donna Menke http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book ----- Original Message ---- > From: "Linehan718 at aol.com" > To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 1:29:06 AM > Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Koch Sharpening > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop > at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > Bob, I will be bringing my small system up to NEWR in July if > you want to delay your purchase. I will have a standard grinder(reversed) > with a yellow Koch wheel on one side and a cotton wheel on the other, using > the green paste. You can try it out for yourself if you want. > > Maura > www.Carvinginnyc.com > > > > ________________________________ > Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. From Thomsons44 at aol.com Sun Mar 15 09:39:30 2009 From: Thomsons44 at aol.com (Thomsons44 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:39:30 EDT Subject: [Woodcarver] Reasons to stay on the list Message-ID: heh there Maura---beautifully written about the list--I enjoyed!!--regards on a sunny day--Hugh(aka-skincarp) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mwalters69 at shaw.ca Sun Mar 15 10:06:45 2009 From: mwalters69 at shaw.ca (Mike Walters) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 08:06:45 -0600 Subject: [Woodcarver] Reasons to stay on the list In-Reply-To: References: <396014.78458.qm@web33208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20090314143313.69930E9D31@mailwash34.pair.com> Message-ID: <57A390B4AAB34D959801CB1F9D990C5B@Mikehome> I've been hiding on the outskirts of the list for a few years now & I agree there is always good information being shared. I've been helped out a few tight spots by list members also. In retrospect, my unsubscribe request was based more on how my morning had been going. The large volume just overwhelmed me. Matt sent me the unsubscribe link, but I don't think I'm going to use it. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne Olsen To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 9:33 AM Subject: [Woodcarver] Reasons to stay on the list Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I lurk on this list because I learn with every note I read. The past few days with discussion of tool making, economics and sales has been especially interesting. I'm sorry several people feel overwhelmed by the volume of traffic and have asked to be dropped, but (speaking only for myself) please continue with teaching, discussing and joking with each other. Perhaps in time I'll become a good enough carver to contribute to the discussion. Thanks, Wayne Olsen Dispute Mediation Services Emergency Management & Business Continuity Programs 913-660-4090 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com To: larryodegard at yahoo.com; woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:33:03 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Keep the dollars moving ... a new stimulus package! LarryO said: AND it seemed so right to see Big Dog spend some of MY money on your adz. Cute, Larry ... very cute! LOL! Larry (BIG DOG) Yudis The Woodcraft Shop 2724 State St Bettendorf, IA 52722 800-397-2278 www.thewoodcraftshop.com Carol and Larry Yudis, Show Chairs International Woodcarvers Congress Affiliated Wood Carvers, Ltd. PO Box 104 Bettendorf, IA 52722 563-359-9684 (days) 563-355-3787 (evenings) www.awcltd.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Larry Odegard Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 7:20 AM To: [Woodcarver] Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Knife making question Wizz, Your tools are a work of art. AND it seemed so right to see Big Dog spend some of MY money on your adz. Larry Odegard Choose to have a great day! http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The language is Spanish; seems based in Madrid, Spain There are some English subtitles -----Original Message----- From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Richard Sent: March 14, 2009 1:28 PM To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Subject: [Woodcarver] Amazing woodcarvings found on the web today I stumbled across this man's woodcarvings today and thought that others would enjoy seeing them as well. The site is not in English and I wish that I knew the language but, this does not lessen the enjoyment of viewing his work http://picasaweb.google.com/Chacien Richard Brown Peculiar, Missouri Wanna Be Woodcarver _____ A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com Sun Mar 15 11:15:24 2009 From: thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com (Larry Yudis) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 10:15:24 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] sharpeners In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090315151528.937EBE9D3C@mailwash34.pair.com> Aw gee Tommy Boy ... you say the nicest things! LOL! Larry (BIG DOG) Yudis The Woodcraft Shop 2724 State St Bettendorf, IA 52722 800-397-2278 www.thewoodcraftshop.com Carol and Larry Yudis, Show Chairs International Woodcarvers Congress Affiliated Wood Carvers, Ltd. PO Box 104 Bettendorf, IA 52722 563-359-9684 (days) 563-355-3787 (evenings) www.awcltd.org _____ From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Tom Pierce Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 9:27 AM To: [Woodcarver] Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] sharpeners I sure like the Burke sharpener and don't forget Big Dog sells them. Tom "Old Age Is Not For Sissies" Pierce Bellevue, Nebraska mailto:tompierce at cox.net My Web Page http://www.carvertools.com/tpierce -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tafink at aol.com Sun Mar 15 12:18:39 2009 From: tafink at aol.com (tafink at aol.com) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 12:18:39 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] sharpeners In-Reply-To: <466809.3940.qm@web84206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <466809.3940.qm@web84206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CB73A0D587541A-A20-14C6@WEBMAIL-DY36.sysops.aol.com> Power this, power that. Old carborundum and files for reshaping. Norton 1000/8000 combination waterstone for sharpening and touch up. Leather strop with yellowstone for honing. Sharpest tools in the class. Tom North Caldwell, NJ -----Original Message----- From: SANDIE BURGDORF To: Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Sent: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 10:14 am Subject: [Woodcarver] sharpeners Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving The US representative for Koch sharpeners was a member of my carving club in NY before he moved to Arizona. I watched the sharpener in action. I also watched the Burke system in action and decided that was what I would buy. Don also had a Burke sharpener so we are now the proud owners of two of them and would not trade them for anything. ? Before you spend the money on the Koch system, check out the Burke sharpener. ? I know everyone loves the one they have so you will hear testimonials from several people with several systems. ? 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Potter wanda.potter at embarqmail.com http:/picturetrail.com/photos/pondawater 1-785-935-2551 -----Original Message----- From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Donna Menke Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 7:48 AM To: [Woodcarver] Subject: [Woodcarver] Small World Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Maura- Do you attend the NEWA meetings? I will be there for their June meeting and it would be nice to meet you. Are there other New England Woodcarvers on this list who will be there? You may be wondering why a Texan would be in Massachusetts- well, I'm originally from MA and I visit relatives there every year. I met Nancy at Carve-Fest in Minnesota last year and she has been kind enough to make the arrangements for me to teach there in June. Small world- eh? Donna Menke http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book ----- Original Message ---- > From: "Linehan718 at aol.com" > To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 1:29:06 AM > Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Koch Sharpening > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop > at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > Bob, I will be bringing my small system up to NEWR in July if > you want to delay your purchase. I will have a standard grinder(reversed) > with a yellow Koch wheel on one side and a cotton wheel on the other, using > the green paste. You can try it out for yourself if you want. > > Maura > www.Carvinginnyc.com > > > > ________________________________ > Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From tompierce at cox.net Sun Mar 15 13:22:47 2009 From: tompierce at cox.net (Tom Pierce) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 12:22:47 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] sharpeners References: <20090315151528.937EBE9D3C@mailwash34.pair.com> Message-ID: <7F26EB14190743DFB9BBD53FA8803574@self4ian9sti18> Big Dog! I gotta do something nice, once in a while. Tom "Old Age Is Not For Sissies" Pierce Bellevue, Nebraska mailto:tompierce at cox.net My Web Page http://www.carvertools.com/tpierce -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ron at carvedbyramsey.com Sun Mar 15 13:24:36 2009 From: ron at carvedbyramsey.com (Ramsey) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 10:24:36 -0700 Subject: [Woodcarver] List volume Message-ID: I subscribe to the digest version of the list. I only get one or two e-mails a day. There is an index of messages at the top so I can see quickly if there is anything that interests me. For those overwhelmed by the volume of e-mails this is a great option. -- Ron Ramsey http://www.carvedbyramsey.com Be sure to look at the incredible nature inspired art jewelry hand fabricated by my wife, Karen Olsen Ramsey. It's worth the time to take a look! http://www.artjeweler.com From Linehan718 at aol.com Sun Mar 15 14:06:50 2009 From: Linehan718 at aol.com (Linehan718 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:06:50 EDT Subject: [Woodcarver] Small World Message-ID: In a message dated 3/15/2009 8:48:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, donpbk at yahoo.com writes: Maura- Do you attend the NEWA meetings? I will be there for their June meeting and it would be nice to meet you. Are there other New England Woodcarvers on this list who will be there? You may be wondering why a Texan would be in Massachusetts- well, I'm originally from MA and I visit relatives there every year. I met Nancy at Carve-Fest in Minnesota last year and she has been kind enough to make the arrangements for me to teach there in June. Small world- eh? Donna Menke Hi Donna, I am sorry but I think you are mistaken. I go to the NEWR not the NEWA. NEWR is the northeast woodcarvers roundup. Last I checked New York is not considered part of New England so they won't let me in that club LOL. Maura _www.Carvinginnyc.com_ (http://www.carvinginnyc.com/) **************Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. (http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/growing-job-industries?ncid=emlcntuscare00000002) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mike +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Now y'r talking Mike Just be cause there was a shower Does NOT mean it spoils the week Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jancarves3 at rogers.com Sun Mar 15 15:21:27 2009 From: jancarves3 at rogers.com (Jan Oegema) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 15:21:27 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] sharpeners References: <466809.3940.qm@web84206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <580F18A8A1444E1EBCD23EB07F70D307@your27e1513d96> Before you spend the money on the Koch system, check out the Burke sharpener. I know everyone loves the one they have so you will hear testimonials from several people with several systems. Sandie ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I do own a BURKE sharpener for 17 years and can not in my wildest dream think there could be a better one Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pinocchiocarver at aol.com Sun Mar 15 16:02:16 2009 From: pinocchiocarver at aol.com (pinocchiocarver at aol.com) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 16:02:16 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Carving Inspiration Pictures In-Reply-To: <411201.52471.qm@web81807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <411201.52471.qm@web81807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8CB73C012DDAE07-BD8-32B8@mblk-d40.sysops.aol.com> Thanks for the link, awsome? beautiful relief..... carve on!! Mike G. feel free to look @ my link http://www.picturetrail.com/gladwingeppetto?, added many new photos. -----Original Message----- From: Alex Neussendorfer To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Sent: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 1:46 pm Subject: [Woodcarver] Carving Inspiration Pictures Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Many of these folks in Russia do awsome carving! http://www.rezbaderevo.ru/eng.php ? ? Alex in Minnesota _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm late reading your email because I spent most of my spare time last week developing a grape and leaf pattern for the range hood. That was fun!! Loren Woodard -----Original Message----- From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Joe Dillett Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:48 AM To: [Woodcarver] Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Question of the day. Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Hi Donna, Your videos sound like an exciting venture. I hope they sell like hot cakes. This brings up an interesting question about money made from carving and carving related activities. 1) How many of us try to generate a steady flow of income from your carving and carving related activities? This would include everything from a few dollars up. Yes or no is ok but expand your answer if you like. 2) Next question, related to our struggling economy, do you put that money generated from carving back into caving related purchases or use it to live on? Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Menke" To: "[Woodcarver]" Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > > Marcia- > Looking at your Maine Coon cat blog was interesting- reminded me of my > Emily dachshund blog. I added another blog to my little collection- the > portrait one. These things are addictive- like you mentioned that you may > do another one too. It seems strange to carve without documentation any > more. > I've taken another step in that direction in that now I am doing videos. > Hubby and I have been working for months to accumulate the equipment and > knowledge so that I can make process videos to sell at shows and seminars. > It has been a struggle but we finally got it all together and finished a > trial- my trips of last year for the kids and myself. One more bug to work > out-menus- and then I'll do the big hummingbird video. Did a trial intro > and discovered all the things I shouldn't do- like roll my eyes- not > funny. > I also completed yesterday the 7-page booklet for carving the Peeking > Mouse for my classes and blanks. It is also planned for an upcoming issue > of Carving Magazine. > > And- I'm sanding on a 3" Celtic Triad in figured maple- talk about a > trial. It will be gorgeous- but the sanding is tedious in the extreme. > Kinda like texturing a cat- eh! > Donna Menke > http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com > Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book > > > > ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Marcia Berkall >> To: [Woodcarver] >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 11:11:50 AM >> Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Even at this unnatural hour ... >> >> Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' >> Campanion Shop >> at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving >> >> >> LOL I just have to chuckle when "fearless leader" hits >> the wrong button :) There are times when I might have caught you on >> the other end of the day...carving into the wee hours of the >> morning. >> >> I'm up to my eyeballs in work. I'm still working on the life size >> Maine Coon Cat carving. This has been a real stretch for me. >> (I love commissions for that reason.) Never have I done so much >> texturing! I hope to have that finished in the next few days, then >> turn my attention to painting it. I got side tracked from >> this carving for a while due to my husband's surgery back in October and >> then the holiday stuff. Fortunately this client has a >> "whenever it's ready" mentality about it, for which I am >> eternally grateful! I set up a blog for her to watch the progress, >> slow as it is. >> http://cahvah.wordpress.com/home/maine-coon-cat-carvingin-progress/ >> I'll >> probably be uploading a new picture in the next day or >> two. >> >> I have also completed another veteran's cane and am working on a wood >> spirit with a 250-year-old slab of wood that was raised from the bottom >> of the Penobscot River. It's part of a wood recovery program and >> this carving will become part of the heritage foundation >> collection. The theme has to be either Native American or logging >> related. I'm discovering some solutions for working with this old >> brittle wood and am documenting the progress for,hopefully,a future >> Carving Magazine Article. >> >> I'm also about to start teaching another Adult Ed 6-week Right Brain >> Drawing class next week. >> >> As for strop compounds, I haven't tried the green compound. I've pretty >> much stuck with the silicon carbide in oil suspension that one of my >> favorite knife makers uses. I guess I'm of the opinion that >> whatever works for you is the best one. That one doesn't work well >> on the buffing wheel, so I might give the green compound a try for >> that. >> >> Thanks, Matt, for getting this started! >> >> Marcia (aka Mush) >> South China, Maine >> >> See Marcia's wood carvings >> at: >> >> http://whittlinsnwood.com >> Blog: http://cahvah.wordpress.com/ >> ***** >> Affordable Web Page >> Design: >> http://artwebmaine.com >> ***** >> >> Get 20% Off CoffeeCup Web Design Software >> Use this code when you checkout: 226STS >> www.getcoffeecup.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From lorenwoodard at charter.net Sun Mar 15 22:54:12 2009 From: lorenwoodard at charter.net (Loren Woodard) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 21:54:12 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] New Question from Chris Whillock In-Reply-To: <9EF684F4-C486-4F58-B66A-07F258F269F9@comcast.net> References: <9EF684F4-C486-4F58-B66A-07F258F269F9@comcast.net> Message-ID: Chris: My calls at Silver Dollar City always has either 13 or 14 people in it. This year I had six. There were several classes canceled due to the small number of students. A lot of the classes had numbers like mine. However, the classes I give close to home have a healthy number in tem. I did a two day bark carving class with 15 students about a month ago. All of the students were local. I think the economy has definitely affected the carving community. Loren Woodard -----Original Message----- From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Matt Kelley Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 11:37 AM To: Woodcarver List Cc: Chris Whillock Subject: [Woodcarver] New Question from Chris Whillock Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving A question from Chris Whillock: > From: Chris > Date: March 13, 2009 7:03:08 AM GMT-04:00 > > > Here is my question: > > Hello All, > > I have a question I've been wanting some feedback on..... > > Have carving shows been affected by the recession? Have you noticed > less people attending shows, are they buying as much in the past? > What has been your experience ... > > What about classes, club activities etc .... > > I'd really appreciate any comments you can share ... > > Thanks much! > > Chris Whillock > > > _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From watsonb at iinet.com.au Mon Mar 16 03:43:02 2009 From: watsonb at iinet.com.au (Watson Family) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:43:02 +0900 Subject: [Woodcarver] sharpeners In-Reply-To: <8CB73A0D587541A-A20-14C6@WEBMAIL-DY36.sysops.aol.com> References: <466809.3940.qm@web84206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <8CB73A0D587541A-A20-14C6@WEBMAIL-DY36.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.1.20090316164136.024f8b20@mail.iinet.net.au> At 01:18 AM 16/03/2009, you wrote: >Sharpest tools in the class. I've got to say Tom I agree. It really dosn't matter what system you use as long as you use it often enough Peter Woodcarvings and Wildlife Sculptures http://www.watsonwoodcarver.com From jancarves3 at rogers.com Mon Mar 16 13:05:09 2009 From: jancarves3 at rogers.com (Jan Oegema) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:05:09 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Fw: Emailing: Carving Picture 023.jpg Message-ID: Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: Carving Picture 023.jpg Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. 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I use green honing compound. My wife is a jeweler and I've tried all of the jewelry compounds. Some are too coarse and some too fine. The green stuff is the best! My two cents worth. Ron Ramsey http://www.carvedbyramsey.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ron-Ramsey-Woodcarversculptor/55391262469?v=wall&viewas=1186712583 Be sure to look at the incredible nature inspired art jewelry hand fabricated by my wife, Karen Olsen Ramsey. It's worth the time to take a look! http://www.artjeweler.com http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/pages/Karen-Olsen-Ramsey-art-jeweler/47697155027?ref=ts > Power this, power that. >Old carborundum and files for reshaping. >Norton 1000/8000 combination waterstone for sharpening and touch up. >Leather strop with yellowstone for honing. >Sharpest tools in the class. >Tom >North Caldwell, NJ -- Ron Ramsey http://www.carvedbyramsey.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ron-Ramsey-Woodcarversculptor/55391262469?v=wall&viewas=1186712583 Be sure to look at the incredible nature inspired art jewelry hand fabricated by my wife, Karen Olsen Ramsey. It's worth the time to take a look! http://www.artjeweler.com http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/pages/Karen-Olsen-Ramsey-art-jeweler/47697155027?ref=ts From tafink at aol.com Tue Mar 17 09:26:22 2009 From: tafink at aol.com (tafink at aol.com) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:26:22 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Source of Hanging Hardware In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CB751B190E7D3C-B0C-344F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> I remember seeing in one of Chris Pye's books/articles a picture of the back of a relief carving.??(It may have been one of the green man articles.)? The hanger was a round?brass piece, with a nail slot in?it.??It may even have screwed in. Anyone seen anything like that in the States. Tom Fink N Caldwell, NJ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Barney _____ From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of tafink at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:26 AM To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Source of Hanging Hardware I remember seeing in one of Chris Pye's books/articles a picture of the back of a relief carving. (It may have been one of the green man articles.) The hanger was a round brass piece, with a nail slot in it. It may even have screwed in. Anyone seen anything like that in the States. Tom Fink N Caldwell, NJ _____ The Average US Credit Score is 692. See yours in just 2 easy steps! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I?ve dealt with both of these folks before and they are good sources. ? >From Van Dyke?s Restorers: ? http://www.vandykes.com/product/200807/plain-hanger ? >From Lee Valley ? http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/index.aspx?c= ? This one is an index page on which you will see a link for picture hangers.? Follow that. ? Barney ? From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of tafink at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:26 AM To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Source of Hanging Hardware ? I remember seeing in one of Chris Pye's books/articles a picture of the back of a relief carving.??(It may have been one of the green man articles.)? The hanger was a round?brass piece, with a nail slot in?it.??It may even have screwed in. Anyone seen a nything like that in the States. Tom Fink N Caldwell, NJ? ? The Average US Credit Score is 692. 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"Round Keyhole Escutcheons" Hope this helps.....Shawn _____ From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of tafink at aol.com Sent: March-17-09 3:59 PM To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Source of Hanging Hardware Barney, Thanks. These would work, but not exactly what I saw. I'll have to find a picture and forward it. Tom North Caldwell, NJ -----Original Message----- From: Barney Barnhardt To: '[Woodcarver]' Sent: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 1:09 pm Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Source of Hanging Hardware Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Tom, Here are a possibility or two. Not sure what you saw, but these bmightb do it. Ibve dealt with both of these folks before and they are good sources. >From Van Dykebs Restorers: http://www.vandykes.com/product/200807/plain-hanger >From Lee Valley http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/index.aspx?c= This one is an index page on which you will see a link for picture hangers. Follow that. Barney _____ From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [ mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of tafink at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:26 AM To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Source of Hanging Hardware I remember seeing in one of Chris Pye's books/articles a picture of the back of a relief carving. (It may have been one of the green man articles.) The hanger was a ro und brass piece, with a nail slot in it. It may even have screwed in. Anyone seen anything like that in the States. Tom Fink N Caldwell, NJ _____ The Average US Credit Score is 692. See yours in just 2 easy steps! _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/l istinfo/woodcarver _____ The Average US Credit Score is 692. See yours in just 2 easy steps! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donpbk at yahoo.com Tue Mar 17 17:05:32 2009 From: donpbk at yahoo.com (Donna Menke) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:05:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] Source of Hanging Hardware In-Reply-To: <8CB751B190E7D3C-B0C-344F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CB751B190E7D3C-B0C-344F@mblk-d11.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <821188.25035.qm@web54301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Try Woodcraft Supply. Donna Menke http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book ----- Original Message ---- > From: "tafink at aol.com" > To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:26:22 AM > Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Source of Hanging Hardware > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop > at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > > I remember seeing in one of Chris Pye's books/articles a picture of the back of > a relief carving. (It may have been one of the green man articles.) The hanger > was a round brass piece, with a nail slot in it. It may even have screwed in. > > Anyone seen anything like that in the States. > > Tom Fink > N Caldwell, NJ > > > > ________________________________ > The Average US Credit Score is 692. See yours in just 2 easy steps! From jdkc1982 at gmail.com Tue Mar 17 17:25:05 2009 From: jdkc1982 at gmail.com (Casey Willson) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:25:05 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] 5 min Owl Woodcarver Digest, Vol 1643, Issue 1 Message-ID: THANK YOU< THANK YOU, Thank you, whoever posted the owl! I've been wanting to try one. Its high on my list of things to carve now. Casey "Man is only as valuable as he can help others" LRH "You can no more spoil a child with love than you can put out the sun with a bucket of gasoline" LRH -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jancarves3 at rogers.com Tue Mar 17 20:00:48 2009 From: jancarves3 at rogers.com (Jan Oegema) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:00:48 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] 5 min Owl Woodcarver Digest, Vol 1643, Issue 1 References: Message-ID: <9B3F9DA8C0C24C59953F73BC3C425731@your27e1513d96> THANK YOU< THANK? YOU, Thank you, whoever posted the owl! I've been wanting to try one. Its high on my list of things to carve now. Casey ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ You are most welcome Casey Let us see them when done Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.bloomquist at woodendreamz.com Tue Mar 17 20:16:56 2009 From: m.bloomquist at woodendreamz.com (m.bloomquist) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:16:56 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] sharpeners In-Reply-To: <466809.3940.qm@web84206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: All, I bought a Burke system last August from Big Dog. It's the two axle model, and I'm loving it. Had a small issue with the placement of the on/off toggle, but when I mounted it to the bench that held (notice the past tense) my Delta water sharpener, I rewired it to the existing switch on the bench. If you don't have electrician type skills or access to an electrician, it's not hard to live with. Keep on Carvin' -Mike B.-> Wooden Dreams Woodcarving http://www.woodendreamz.com -----Original Message----- From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of SANDIE BURGDORF Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 10:14 AM To: Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Subject: [Woodcarver] sharpeners The US representative for Koch sharpeners was a member of my carving club in NY before he moved to Arizona. I watched the sharpener in action. I also watched the Burke system in action and decided that was what I would buy. Don also had a Burke sharpener so we are now the proud owners of two of them and would not trade them for anything. 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Rick Parker rick_pfm at yahoo.com --- On Tue, 3/17/09, Jan Oegema wrote: > From: Jan Oegema > Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] 5 min Owl Woodcarver Digest, Vol 1643, Issue 1 > To: "[Woodcarver]" > Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 7:00 PM > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > Friends in Carving: Please support > our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > > > > > > > > THANK YOU< THANK?? YOU, Thank you, whoever > posted the owl! I've > been wanting to try one. Its high on my list of things to > carve > now. > Casey > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > You are most welcome Casey > > Let us see them when done > > ? > ?????????????????????????????????? > > Woodbutcher Jan > ? > ? > You are invited to check > out my > website.. > ?????? http://www.janscarvingstudio.com > ? > Also > take a look at my picture trail albums > ... > ???????? http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher > ? > http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ > ? > ? > http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From woodsignatures at bresnan.net Wed Mar 18 12:24:17 2009 From: woodsignatures at bresnan.net (Andre J) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:24:17 -0600 Subject: [Woodcarver] Latest - Largest Cottonwood Bark Carving Message-ID: Here is a link for my latest cottonwood bark carving, it's my largest to date, in fact, it took 5 photos together in a panorama to capture it! please visit: http://picasaweb.google.com/yup.im.polish/ConiferCondo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: Andre J To: [Woodcarver] Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:24 AM Subject: [Woodcarver] Latest - Largest Cottonwood Bark Carving Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Here is a link for my latest cottonwood bark carving, it's my largest to date, in fact, it took 5 photos together in a panorama to capture it! please visit: http://picasaweb.google.com/yup.im.polish/ConiferCondo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I zoomed in on it so I could see it up close and it's very impressive because of the detail. I've never carved on bark, but I will try it someday. I admire the carvers who can "see" the carvings they want to do in that wood. I look at it from several angles, and I don't see the whole picture....Just maybe a beginning. Do you envision the finished project when you start, or do you just start and it develops as you go? I've often wondered about that. Thanks for sharing. And by the way, I have a couple of miniature garden gnomes who would feel right at home in that condo, should there be a vacancy anytime soon. :) Arkansas Fran _____ From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Andre J Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:24 AM To: [Woodcarver] Subject: [Woodcarver] Latest - Largest Cottonwood Bark Carving Here is a link for my latest cottonwood bark carving, it's my largest to date, in fact, it took 5 photos together in a panorama to capture it! please visit: http://picasaweb.google.com/yup.im.polish/ConiferCondo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From whitwood at fairpoint.net Wed Mar 18 18:23:49 2009 From: whitwood at fairpoint.net (Marcia Berkall) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:23:49 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Wednesday Woodcarver Chat Message-ID: <20090318222345.5E4EC1BFA1E@smtp0.av-mx.com> Join in on the fun!!! For informative and fun REAL TIME conversations with a number of the carvers on "The List", come to the Woodcarver chats. We don't always talk about carving, but if anyone has a question or comment, we can get serious in a hurry. Get to know the people behind the names. And bring you carving questions with you!!! We meet on Wednesday nights at 9:30 PM Eastern and on Sundays at 4:30 PM Eastern. If you are NOT using an IRC chat program, I think you will like these simplified instructions!!! Just click on one of the links below...either will take you directly to #Woodcarverchat http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_williamslake.html?chan=#Woodcarverchat http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_stopover.html?chan=#woodcarverchat This may take a LONG time to load!!!!!!! Don't give up. When it finally does load, you will be asked to type in a nickname.....then click connect, and wait a little bit longer. The chat screen will open. Type something in the narrow horizontal space just below the chat screen and hit you enter key. Nothing to it! :) If you are using WebTV or still have trouble getting there, one of these links will work...we just save them as a last resort in case all other links don't work: http://63.79.14.90/cgi-bin/irc.cgi http://cobra-ip1.vipershells.com/cgi-bin/irc.cgi http://stopover.ky.us.starlink-irc.org/cgi-bin/irc.cgi (This one will have the fastest connection) Type in a nickname where it says"nickname"i Where is says, "channel", type in #woodcarverchat (don't forget the #). ******* If you are using an mIRC chat program: 1. Log onto your ISP. 2. Open mIRC. You should see a box "mIRC Options". If you don't then click on View then on "Options" Fill in the information there...you do NOT have to put in your real name or email address. For security purposes, make them up. Do put in the nickname you want and an alternative. 4. Click on the button with the sunburst icon, just to the right of the button that says, "Connect to Server". Where it says "IRC Network", scroll down until you see "Starlink-IRC" and highlight that so it shows in the window. There is also a Starlink network, so make sure that the one you select has the "IRC" after it. Now click on the arrow next to the IRC server window. That will list a number of Starlink-IRC servers....select one of them. The Starlink-IRC random server will automatically pick one of the servers for you, so you can use that one. With one of the Starlink-IRC servers in the window, click on "Connect to Server" If the Starlink Random Server is not in your mirc program you can add it: Click the "add" button. Where it says "Description" type "Starlink Random Server" Where it says "IRC Server" type IRC.STARLINK-IRC.ORG Port should be 6664,6665,6666,6667,6668,6669 (all of those with no spaces between them) and "Group" is Starlink-IRC 5. Once connected, you'll see lots of scrolling text. When that stops, type /join #Woodcarverchat in the window at the bottom and hit your "enter" key. (you need the / and #, and Woodcarverchat must be spelled exactly right) I have put these instructions on a web page with direct links at http://artwebmaine.com/woodcarverchat.html You may want to bookmark it. ******* See you there! E-mail me off the list for additional information and instructions. Marcia Berkall whitwood at fairpoint.net See Marcia's wood carvings at: http://whittlinsnwood.com Blog: http://cahvah.wordpress.com/ ***** Affordable Web Page Design: http://artwebmaine.com ***** Get 20% Off CoffeeCup Web Design Software Use this code when you checkout: 226STS www.getcoffeecup.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Corey On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Andre J wrote: > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > > Here is a link for my latest cottonwood bark carving, it's my largest to > date, in fact, it took 5 photos together in a panorama to capture it! > > please visit: > http://picasaweb.google.com/yup.im.polish/ConiferCondo > > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > -- Corey IowaCarver http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ http://picasaweb.google.com/IowaWoodCarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I would be most interested to include some oral history in my next Pyrograffiti article. Please write to me directly (rather than to the list) at pyroart_emuseum at yahoo.com. I would be most grateful. I joined the Northern Virginia Carvers for the first time in 1978 as their guest speaker on pyrography, and what I brought to show them was definitely something new for them. I had no idea then that even detailing was something rather "new" for them. --------------separate topic: Re the great numbers of messages that were recently complained about, remember when this group was first started (I joined in the fall of 1996)? That was before there was the digest alternative, and we were getting about 50+ emails a day!!! We were all so excited about everything new on the internet back then and had so much fun. It was a bit obssessive, but still.... Even then some complained about the numbers and/or the chat, but most of us just gave our advice to hit DELETE if you didn't want one, remember? Those were the days.... -------------------------------------------- Best regards, Kathleen Menendez =========================== Kathleen M. Garvey Menendez Falls Church, Virginia, U.S.A. Cofounder Int'l Ass'n of Pyrographic Artists (IAPA) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/uniting_pyrographers/ Curator, E-Museum of Pyrographic Art: http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/4029/ Feature writer for Pyrograffiti in the WOM (more than 50 articles since 1997), latest article: http://carverscompanion.com/Ezine/Vol13Issue1/KMenendez/KMenendez.html (PLUNA of Spain and Ernie Thompson (In Memoriam) of U.S.A.) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From celtcarver at comcast.net Thu Mar 19 09:57:40 2009 From: celtcarver at comcast.net (Matt Kelley) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:57:40 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] 5 min Owl in List Archives In-Reply-To: <483107.54236.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <483107.54236.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1B15E4B2-58E5-4DBE-8CA9-25927602202D@comcast.net> Hi Rick - You can find it in the List Archives - click the link at the bottom of this message. Matt *********************************************** Matt Kelley: Woodcarver, E-zine Editor, W3E Coordinator, List Owner Woodcarver Online Magazine, W3Exchange Programs, Carver Resource Files at: http://carverscompanion.com Carving Shirts & Gear at: http://carverscompanion.com/cclogostuff/logostuff.html CelticCarver WoodWorks: http://celtcarver.com On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:28 AM, rick p wrote: > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' > Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > > I guess I missed the 5 minute owl posting where do I find it? > > Rick Parker > rick_pfm at yahoo.com From carve at whillock.com Thu Mar 19 10:10:45 2009 From: carve at whillock.com (Ivan Whillock) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:10:45 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] A Burning Question on Woodcarving References: <399069.22356.qm@web62305.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <83B9643773284132824DFEEAAB5AED3A@ome> Kathleen, I believe Bruce Burk's book, Game Bird Carving, first came out in 1972. I don't have a copy of the book, but as I recall he had chapters on burning detail into the feathers. Burk had to be doing it before 1972 to have the technique developed for his book. Ivan Whillock Studio 122 NE 1st Avenue Faribault, MN 55021 Visit my website at http://www.whillock.com Visit my Picture Trail album at http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=ivancarve From: KathleenM GarveyM Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 1:56 AM To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Subject: [Woodcarver] A Burning Question on Woodcarving Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hello, All. Some asked last Friday if there were any burning questions on carving, and I have one for you. I recently found on eBay a carving by Jack Drake for sale at $20,000., I believe. He is credited in the write-up for inventing in 1972 the use of pyrography for detailing his carvings. Apparently before that, no one had thought to do that, and if you wanted to detail your carvings in any other way besides carving them, you painted them, and these painted carvings were called "slicks," and, I suppose, still are. Is there anyone in this group who remembers painted carving techniques before 1972 and can talk about the beginnings of pyrography for detailing after 1972? I would be most interested to include some oral history in my next Pyrograffiti article. Please write to me directly (rather than to the list) at pyroart_emuseum at yahoo.com. I would be most grateful. I joined the Northern Virginia Carvers for the first time in 1978 as their guest speaker on pyrography, and what I brought to show them was definitely something new for them. I had no idea then that even detailing was something rather "new" for them. --------------separate topic: Re the great numbers of messages that were recently complained about, remember when this group was first started (I joined in the fall of 1996)? That was before there was the digest alternative, and we were getting about 50+ emails a day!!! We were all so excited about everything new on the internet back then and had so much fun. It was a bit obssessive, but still.... Even then some complained about the numbers and/or the chat, but most of us just gave our advice to hit DELETE if you didn't want one, remember? Those were the days.... -------------------------------------------- Best regards, Kathleen Menendez =========================== Kathleen M. Garvey Menendez Falls Church, Virginia, U.S.A. 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At the end of the show several of us talked about how many people were paying with cash. Only one dealer noticed credit card sales however, he had just got on board with CC offer. That is normal. Folks are always surprised how much their sales increase when they offer plastic. All of us noticed people were: 1. buying $20.00 items and paying with cash. 2. A lot of new folks wanting to get into carving. 3. our take was people are staying home and spending their time with handwork (carving) 4. people were cautious with their money...not buying big ticket items. Personally, our sales are up. We had no after Christmas slump. In fact, it has increased. We could almost hire an employee. But then in fan-carving, we get the trees, buck up the wood, prepare it in water, package it in plastic, store it in the freezer, ship orders, write articles, do the fan-carving...... Our business is a bit different. >> What about classes, club activities etc .... We have cut back on teaching because we have qualified people that we encourage to take up that role. They are doing great! We support them and it helps us stay closer to home with daily shipping activities. As far as Michigan clubs, we have 42 clubs registered with the Michigan WoodCarvers Association. There are many more clubs that do not belong to the MWCA. The clubs are healthy and strong. Some have divided to support more of their interests (power-pyro-hand tools). Change keeps them healthy. We had 8 MWCA districts but for ease of communicating with everyone we have formed 10 districts now. Each district has a Regional MWCA Representative that coordinates items of interest. In that way, we all stay in touch...mostly via computer and telephones. Chris, I don't know if this information is a help to you or not. I will see you at the Rochester show and we can talk further if you'd like. 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Ralph Scheffler ----- Original Message ----- From: KathleenM GarveyM To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:56 PM Subject: [Woodcarver] A Burning Question on Woodcarving Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hello, All. Some asked last Friday if there were any burning questions on carving, and I have one for you. I recently found on eBay a carving by Jack Drake for sale at $20,000., I believe. He is credited in the write-up for inventing in 1972 the use of pyrography for detailing his carvings. Apparently before that, no one had thought to do that, and if you wanted to detail your carvings in any other way besides carving them, you painted them, and these painted carvings were called "slicks," and, I suppose, still are. Is there anyone in this group who remembers painted carving techniques before 1972 and can talk about the beginnings of pyrography for detailing after 1972? I would be most interested to include some oral history in my next Pyrograffiti article. Please write to me directly (rather than to the list) at pyroart_emuseum at yahoo.com. I would be most grateful. I joined the Northern Virginia Carvers for the first time in 1978 as their guest speaker on pyrography, and what I brought to show them was definitely something new for them. I had no idea then that even detailing was something rather "new" for them. --------------separate topic: Re the great numbers of messages that were recently complained about, remember when this group was first started (I joined in the fall of 1996)? That was before there was the digest alternative, and we were getting about 50+ emails a day!!! We were all so excited about everything new on the internet back then and had so much fun. It was a bit obssessive, but still.... Even then some complained about the numbers and/or the chat, but most of us just gave our advice to hit DELETE if you didn't want one, remember? Those were the days.... -------------------------------------------- Best regards, Kathleen Menendez =========================== Kathleen M. Garvey Menendez Falls Church, Virginia, U.S.A. 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090319195056.3D309290A47@smtp1.av-mx.com> I fly with carving tools all the time. You have to have them in your checked luggage, though. I have a TSA approved lock on my bag and usually alert the inspectors that there are sharp tools in the bag. The TSA lock isn't going to discourage anyone from breaking into a bag..(never had that happen), but it does let you know if you bag has been opened. I have never had any problems Have a great trip. Marcia (aka Mush) >I will be taking a trip to Los Angeles in a few >weeks and would like to know how do you take carving tools on an airplane. >Is it more trouble than it's worth? I could call >the airlines and find out, but thought I'd get >the group's experiences, if any. > >Sincerely, Jantu > >??? >I am on vacation the rest of my life!...I live in the beautiful Ozark mtns!! >View my woodcarvings and please do sign my >guestbook at www.picturetrail.com/jantu See Marcia's wood carvings at: http://whittlinsnwood.com Blog: http://cahvah.wordpress.com/ ***** Affordable Web Page Design: http://artwebmaine.com ***** Get 20% Off CoffeeCup Web Design Software Use this code when you checkout: 226STS www.getcoffeecup.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sdennis at eastlink.ca Thu Mar 19 15:54:38 2009 From: sdennis at eastlink.ca (Mr. Steven J. Dennis) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:54:38 -0300 Subject: [Woodcarver] 5 min Owl in List Archives References: <483107.54236.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1B15E4B2-58E5-4DBE-8CA9-25927602202D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <6BD8166B190A40328A5F4A61371089F3@canadianb0140d> Good Afternoon All; First time poster, (long time lurker). I am having difficulties locating this file as well. Can you be more specific? Thanks Steve Eastern Passage, Nova Scotia. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Kelley" To: "[Woodcarver]" Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:57 AM Subject: [Woodcarver] 5 min Owl in List Archives > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > Hi Rick - > > You can find it in the List Archives - click the link at the bottom > of this message. > > Matt > > *********************************************** > Matt Kelley: Woodcarver, E-zine Editor, W3E Coordinator, List Owner > > Woodcarver Online Magazine, W3Exchange Programs, > Carver Resource Files at: http://carverscompanion.com > Carving Shirts & Gear at: > http://carverscompanion.com/cclogostuff/logostuff.html > CelticCarver WoodWorks: http://celtcarver.com > > > > > On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:28 AM, rick p wrote: > >> Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' >> Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving >> >> >> >> I guess I missed the 5 minute owl posting where do I find it? >> >> Rick Parker >> rick_pfm at yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.20/2012 - Release Date: 03/19/09 12:26:00 From dge1 at comcast.net Thu Mar 19 16:03:31 2009 From: dge1 at comcast.net (Doug Evans) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:03:31 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Question about flying with carving tools? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003701c9a8cd$c74093f0$55c1bbd0$@net> Jantu, I fly all the time with tools. You have to check them but you don't need to tell them they are there. Iwas told and always do have a carving book or magazine with my tools so you can tell what they are. DougEvans will be taking a trip to Los Angeles in a few weeks and would like to know how do you take carving tools on an airplane. Is it more trouble than it's worth? I could call the airlines and find out, but thought I'd get the group's experiences, if any. Sincerely, Jantu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Kelley) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:33:44 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] 5 min Owl in List Archives In-Reply-To: <6BD8166B190A40328A5F4A61371089F3@canadianb0140d> References: <483107.54236.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1B15E4B2-58E5-4DBE-8CA9-25927602202D@comcast.net> <6BD8166B190A40328A5F4A61371089F3@canadianb0140d> Message-ID: <2EF83B95-2B85-452E-967E-6BEC43888A1D@me.com> To find the List Archives, click the link at the very bottom of this message. When you arrive at the Woodcarver List page, right near the top is a link to the Woodcarver Archives - click the link. This will take you to the archives page, where you may click a link to select Thread, Subject, Author, or Date by month. Click on Subject, and look for the entry "Fw: Emailing: Carving Picture 023.jpg " entry by Jan Oegema. Carve On1 Matt *********************************************** Matt Kelley: Woodcarver, E-zine Editor, W3E Coordinator Woodcarver Online Magazine, W3Exchange Programs, Carver Resource Files at: http://carverscompanion.com Carving Shirts & Gear at: http://carverscompanion.com/cclogostuff/logostuff.html CelticCarver WoodWorks: http://celtcarver.com On Mar 19, 2009, at 3:54 PM, Mr. Steven J. Dennis wrote: > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' > Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > Good Afternoon All; > > First time poster, (long time lurker). I am having difficulties > locating this file as well. Can you be more specific? > > Thanks > > Steve > Eastern Passage, Nova Scotia. *********************************************** Matt Kelley: Woodcarver, E-zine Editor, W3E Coordinator Woodcarver Online Magazine, W3Exchange Programs, Carver Resource Files at: http://carverscompanion.com Carving Shirts & Gear at: http://carverscompanion.com/cclogostuff/logostuff.html CelticCarver WoodWorks: http://celtcarver.com From chrishoward307 at bellsouth.net Thu Mar 19 16:38:00 2009 From: chrishoward307 at bellsouth.net (chrishoward307 at bellsouth.net) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:38:00 +0000 Subject: [Woodcarver] Question about flying with carving tools? In-Reply-To: <003701c9a8cd$c74093f0$55c1bbd0$@net> References: <003701c9a8cd$c74093f0$55c1bbd0$@net> Message-ID: <031920092038.18534.49C2AD28000A20D80000486622230682229B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFC9CFCC0B9D0E9901089C079D080C@att.net> I fly with drills, circular saw, 4 1/2 grinder, chisels and all Foredom Supplies, at check in I tell TSA its tools, the bag is always security checked they leave a pamplet. I have never had a problem, but for safe measure just call your airline and see if they have any special way they want things packed. Might save the some time. Chris Howard -------------- Original message from "Doug Evans" : -------------- > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop > at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I could call the airlines and find out, but thought I'd get the group's experiences, if any. Sincerely, Jantu o;? I am on vacation the rest of my life!...I live in the beautiful Ozark mtns!! View my woodcarvings and please do sign my guestbook at www.picturetrail.com/jantu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.20/2012 - Release Date: 03/19/09 12:26:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ yes You can take knives chisels soforth even hand guns and amunition on your flight if you follow the right procedures and package them right and check them with your luggage. Jack I will be taking a trip to Los Angeles in a few weeks and would like to know how do you take carving tools on an airplane. Is it more trouble than it's worth? I could call the airlines and find out, but thought I'd get the group's experiences, if any. Sincerely, Jantu o;? I am on vacation the rest of my life!...I live in the beautiful Ozark mtns!! 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Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- yes You can take knives chisels soforth even hand guns and amunition on your flight if you follow the right procedures and package them right and check them with your luggage. Jack I will be taking a trip to Los Angeles in a few weeks and would like to know how do you take carving tools on an airplane. Is it more trouble than it's worth? I could call the airlines and find out, but thought I'd get the group's experiences, if any. Sincerely, Jantu o;? I am on vacation the rest of my life!...I live in the beautiful Ozark mtns!! 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Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- yes You can take knives chisels soforth even hand guns and amunition on your flight if you follow the right procedures and package them right and check them with your luggage. Jack I will be taking a trip to Los Angeles in a few weeks and would like to know how do you take carving tools on an airplane. Is it more trouble than it's worth? I could call the airlines and find out, but thought I'd get the group's experiences, if any. Sincerely, Jantu o;? I am on vacation the rest of my life!...I live in the beautiful Ozark mtns!! 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.20/2012 - Release Date: 03/19/09 12:26:00 From tompierce at cox.net Thu Mar 19 18:48:40 2009 From: tompierce at cox.net (Tom Pierce) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:48:40 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] 5 min Owl in List Archives References: <483107.54236.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com><1B15E4B2-58E5-4DBE-8CA9-25927602202D@comcast.net><6BD8166B190A40328A5F4A61371089F3@canadianb0140d> <2EF83B95-2B85-452E-967E-6BEC43888A1D@me.com> Message-ID: <5DD2AE175C9F456791EF2077AB18338C@self4ian9sti18> I gave up trying to find the 5 min owl. Tom "Old Age Is Not For Sissies" Pierce Bellevue, Nebraska mailto:tompierce at cox.net My Web Page http://www.carvertools.com/tpierce From bremmers at midwestinfo.com Thu Mar 19 18:56:14 2009 From: bremmers at midwestinfo.com (Gene and Darlene Bremmer) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:56:14 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] 5 min Owl in List Archives References: <483107.54236.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com><1B15E4B2-58E5-4DBE-8CA9-25927602202D@comcast.net><6BD8166B190A40328A5F4A61371089F3@canadianb0140d><2EF83B95-2B85-452E-967E-6BEC43888A1D@me.com> <5DD2AE175C9F456791EF2077AB18338C@self4ian9sti18> Message-ID: <930098F7A0C04FE0B83A8C79BB984C25@bremmers> Tom, try this location. Gene http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HouseOfWoodCarving/photos/album/399947063/pic/list Picturetrail Album at: http://picturetrail.com/bremmers Email bremmers at midwestinfo.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Pierce To: [Woodcarver] Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] 5 min Owl in List Archives Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving I gave up trying to find the 5 min owl. Tom "Old Age Is Not For Sissies" Pierce Bellevue, Nebraska mailto:tompierce at cox.net My Web Page http://www.carvertools.com/tpierce _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.20/2012 - Release Date: 03/19/09 12:26:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jancarves3 at rogers.com Thu Mar 19 19:25:46 2009 From: jancarves3 at rogers.com (Jan Oegema) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:25:46 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] 5 min Owl in List Archives References: <483107.54236.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com><1B15E4B2-58E5-4DBE-8CA9-25927602202D@comcast.net><6BD8166B190A40328A5F4A61371089F3@canadianb0140d><2EF83B95-2B85-452E-967E-6BEC43888A1D@me.com> <5DD2AE175C9F456791EF2077AB18338C@self4ian9sti18> Message-ID: I gave up trying to find the 5 min owl. Tom "Old Age Is Not For Sissies" Pierce +++++++++++++++++++++ So did I Tom so did I Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf From jb044044 at Windstream.net Thu Mar 19 21:34:47 2009 From: jb044044 at Windstream.net (Joe Brott) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:34:47 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] 5 min Owl in List Archives In-Reply-To: <5DD2AE175C9F456791EF2077AB18338C@self4ian9sti18> References: <483107.54236.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com><1B15E4B2-58E5-4DBE-8CA9-25927602202D@comcast.net><6BD8166B190A40328A5F4A61371089F3@canadianb0140d> <2EF83B95-2B85-452E-967E-6BEC43888A1D@me.com> <5DD2AE175C9F456791EF2077AB18338C@self4ian9sti18> Message-ID: <000001c9a8fc$0ef286d0$2cd79470$@net> Tom, one is at: http://www.geocities.com/kcwaterguy at sbcglobal.ne I gave up trying to find the 5 min owl. Tom "Old Age Is Not For Sissies" Pierce Bellevue, Nebraska mailto:tompierce at cox.net My Web Page http://www.carvertools.com/tpierce _______________________________________________ From abkinnaman at earthlink.net Thu Mar 19 21:40:39 2009 From: abkinnaman at earthlink.net (Byron) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:40:39 -0700 Subject: [Woodcarver] 5 min Owl in List Archives Message-ID: <380-22009352014039388@earthlink.net> Try this. http://www.geocities.com/kcwaterguy at sbcglobal.net/owl1.html Byron Kinnaman abkinnaman at earthlink.net http://byronscabin.kinnamans.net/ > [Original Message] > From: Jan Oegema > To: [Woodcarver] > Date: 3/19/2009 4:25:51 PM > Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] 5 min Owl in List Archives > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > I gave up trying to find the 5 min owl. > > Tom "Old Age Is Not For Sissies" Pierce > +++++++++++++++++++++ > So did I Tom so did I > > Woodbutcher Jan > > > You are invited to check out my website.. > http://www.janscarvingstudio.com > > Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... > http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher > > http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ > > > http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From sogone89 at bellsouth.net Fri Mar 20 09:07:21 2009 From: sogone89 at bellsouth.net (sogone89 at bellsouth.net) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:07:21 +0000 Subject: [Woodcarver] 5 min Owl in List Archives In-Reply-To: <380-22009352014039388@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <032020091307.24891.49C39508000DF6700000613B22230647029B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFC7C80A020109019C@att.net> Hey, Finding this 5 min owl is like going snipe hunting. Dick Phillips -------------- Original message from "Byron" : -------------- Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop > at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > Try this. > > http://www.geocities.com/kcwaterguy at sbcglobal.net/owl1.html > > > > Byron Kinnaman > abkinnaman at earthlink.net > http://byronscabin.kinnamans.net/ > > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Jan Oegema > > To: [Woodcarver] > > Date: 3/19/2009 4:25:51 PM > > Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] 5 min Owl in List Archives > > > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' > Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > > > > I gave up trying to find the 5 min owl. > > > > Tom "Old Age Is Not For Sissies" Pierce > > +++++++++++++++++++++ > > So did I Tom so did I > > > > Woodbutcher Jan > > > > > > You are invited to check out my website.. > > http://www.janscarvingstudio.com > > > > Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... > > http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher > > > > http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ > > > > > > http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf > > _______________________________________________ > > Woodcarver mailing list > > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From jdillett at thecarvingshop.net Fri Mar 20 10:15:27 2009 From: jdillett at thecarvingshop.net (Joe Dillett) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:15:27 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Question about flying with carving tools? References: Message-ID: <1D3650193E4D4623BBF8B9D49D5DE545@Joe> Hi Jantu, I fly with carving tools all the time and what people are saying is true. We have a considerable investment in our tools so I also suggest that you check into additional insurance. My business insurance, for no additional cost, puts an extra $1,000 insurance on my tools when I travel. I have not checked into Homeowners or Renters insurance to see if for a small extra charge you can get your tools insured. I think it would be worth a phone call. Imagine if your tools got lost how much it would take to replace them. If your tools get lost or rerouted the airlines have time, I think 30 days, to locate them before any insurance can be collected. If you are traveling to teach a seminar and your tools arrive a few days late it would really put you in a bind. I checked into purchasing on-time insurance to insure that the tools would be there in time for the seminar and it was too costly so, in those cases, I ship them UPS insured for next day. It's also a bit costly but worth the peace of mind. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: cobwebs101 To: woodcarver at six.pairlist.net Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:43 PM Subject: [Woodcarver] Question about flying with carving tools? Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I will be taking a trip to Los Angeles in a few weeks and would like to know how do you take carving tools on an airplane. Is it more trouble than it's worth? I could call the airlines and find out, but thought I'd get the group's experiences, if any. Sincerely, Jantu ??? I am on vacation the rest of my life!...I live in the beautiful Ozark mtns!! View my woodcarvings and please do sign my guestbook at www.picturetrail.com/jantu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From woodsignatures at bresnan.net Fri Mar 20 14:54:16 2009 From: woodsignatures at bresnan.net (Andre J) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:54:16 -0600 Subject: [Woodcarver] Question about flying with carving tools? In-Reply-To: <031920092038.18534.49C2AD28000A20D80000486622230682229B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFC9CFCC0B9D0E9901089C079D080C@att.net> References: <003701c9a8cd$c74093f0$55c1bbd0$@net> <031920092038.18534.49C2AD28000A20D80000486622230682229B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFC9CFCC0B9D0E9901089C079D080C@att.net> Message-ID: Is that like running with scissors? LOL " I fly with drills, circular saw, 4 1/2 grinder, chisels and all Foredom Supplies" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cobwebs101 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 20 15:40:01 2009 From: cobwebs101 at hotmail.com (cobwebs101) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:40:01 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Question about flying with carving tools?/thanks all!! References: <003701c9a8cd$c74093f0$55c1bbd0$@net> <031920092038.18534.49C2AD28000A20D80000486622230682229B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFC9CFCC0B9D0E9901089C079D080C@att.net> Message-ID: THANKS TO EVERYONE!!!... That contributed and answered my questions about flying with tools! Once again this great group has come to my aid.... carvers are the kindest, most generous group of peeps I have ever encountered. I am so glad to be One of You!!! ;) :)))) Hugs, Jantu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sogone89 at bellsouth.net Fri Mar 20 19:06:45 2009 From: sogone89 at bellsouth.net (sogone89 at bellsouth.net) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:06:45 +0000 Subject: [Woodcarver] 5 min Owl in List Archives In-Reply-To: <20090320.094634.15754.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <032020092306.13367.49C421850005A1440000343722216128369B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFC7C80A020109019C@att.net> Hey Jack, Sounds like a fun time was had by all. Dick Phillips -------------- Original message from "jackcarves at juno.com" : -------------- > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop > at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From celtcarver at comcast.net Sat Mar 21 08:54:54 2009 From: celtcarver at comcast.net (Matt Kelley) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:54:54 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] W3E Secret Pal Exchange #45 Commitment Registration Begins Message-ID: <0FFF4C40-2E93-481B-924F-2834CCF789EF@comcast.net> Friends in Woodcarving - Yesterday was the Vernal Equinox, which means Commitment Registration is now underway for the World Wide Woodcarver Exchange Spring '09 Secret Pal session. Please note there is no longer an interest registration period for the Secret Pal Exchange. To indicate your commitment to participate in the Spring session, please point your web browser to http://carverscompanion.com; once there click the W3E icon, then the Secret Pal link. Registration will continue through April 18. Shipping information will be emailed by May 2. Come join the fun in the longest running on-line woodcarving exchange in the world . Carve On! Matt *********************************************** Matt Kelley: Woodcarver, E-zine Editor, W3E Coordinator Woodcarver Online Magazine, W3Exchange Programs, Carver Resource Files at: http://carverscompanion.com Carving Shirts & Gear at: http://carverscompanion.com/cclogostuff/logostuff.html CelticCarver WoodWorks: http://celtcarver.com From merrihat at hotmail.com Sat Mar 21 09:47:40 2009 From: merrihat at hotmail.com (Merrilee Johnson) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:47:40 +0000 Subject: [Woodcarver] New Woodspirit In-Reply-To: <49d3fd9d0903081259u3d6cbec6reba2728e08b4c11c@mail.gmail.com> References: <1FA43366D05B4BAC91526B4A956C49EA@mikestoy> <49d3fd9d0903081259u3d6cbec6reba2728e08b4c11c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hey Mike! Your new lady spirit is beautiful! I am so far behind reading emails and just saw this one! I hope all is well with you. As usual keep up the great work! Merrilee Nice job Mike and good to hear from you! Not to often you see a lady spirit and I think it looks great! Corey Hey Gang, It's been a long time since I updated my website... found my website skills very, very rusty. The web-site itself is due for a face lift, but there's no time for that yet. Anyway, this link should take you right to the new stuff... _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? SkyDrive: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_032009 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From iowawoodcarver at gmail.com Sat Mar 21 21:16:03 2009 From: iowawoodcarver at gmail.com (Corey Hallagan) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:16:03 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Mini Bust Message-ID: <49d3fd9d0903211816g73a18091l13e4ea502953c40a@mail.gmail.com> Hello all, hope everyone is having a great weekend. Today at the club we had Denny Neubauer of Denny Tools teach a class. This was a class on whittling on a stick, face structure etc. We used only a knife and no other tools. We all got basswood handled knives to carve a custom handle. Most decided to carve a practice stick today and take the knife home and carve later. I worked on a face with Denny. Not only is Denny a great tool maker he is also a great carver. I enjoyed the class. When I got home I turned my head into a little mini bust and mounted it on a walnut round I turned on the lathe. The bust is painted in acrylics and finished with Satin lacquer. You can see the item at: http://iowacarver.tripod.com/id5.html Thanks for looking as always! -- Corey IowaCarver http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ http://picasaweb.google.com/IowaWoodCarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You can see the item at: http://iowacarver.tripod.com/id5.html Thanks for looking as always! -- Corey +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Pretty good bust Corey and YES Danny is a great man to teach and he does make great tools Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.bloomquist at woodendreamz.com Sun Mar 22 06:49:44 2009 From: m.bloomquist at woodendreamz.com (m.bloomquist) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 06:49:44 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Things Are Lookin' Up (CHAT) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Merrilee, Things are finally turning around, though the winter of '08-'09 definitely will not be recorded as one of our better winters. Last weekend I taught a two day class. definitely a bright spot. Three "veterans" doing figure carving, and three beginners (one a 12 year old) carving my Swedish Luck Trolls. The 12 year old's parents tag teamed to keep their child supervised. The parental supervision is a "strong recommendation" I make for students that young. In theory, it means there is a second set of ears listening to the lesson for the student and a second set of eyes watching them for me. How's your Mom? Are things looking good for you three being at the NEWR this year? Keep on Carvin' -Mike B.-> -----Original Message----- From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Merrilee Johnson Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 9:48 AM To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] New Woodspirit Hey Mike! Your new lady spirit is beautiful! I am so far behind reading emails and just saw this one! I hope all is well with you. As usual keep up the great work! Merrilee _____ Nice job Mike and good to hear from you! Not to often you see a lady spirit and I think it looks great! Corey Hey Gang, It's been a long time since I updated my website... found my website skills very, very rusty. The web-site itself is due for a face lift, but there's no time for that yet. Anyway, this link should take you right to the new stuff... _____ Windows LiveT SkyDrive: Get 25 GB of free online storage. Check it out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.bloomquist at woodendreamz.com Sun Mar 22 06:59:37 2009 From: m.bloomquist at woodendreamz.com (m.bloomquist) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 06:59:37 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Mini Bust In-Reply-To: <49d3fd9d0903211816g73a18091l13e4ea502953c40a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <346861963F0C41A8BF1B0192A4A7688A@mikestoy> Corey, Sounds like a great workshop. You sure came away with a good piece. BTW, I liked the hillbilly bottle stopper too, and the story that went with it. It just reinforces the idea that there are "no mistakes, just pattern alterations" ;-). Nice work on both. Keep on Carvin' -Mike B.-> Wooden Dreams Woodcarving http://www.woodendreamz.com -----Original Message----- From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Corey Hallagan Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 9:16 PM To: Woodcarvers Subject: [Woodcarver] Mini Bust Hello all, hope everyone is having a great weekend. Today at the club we had Denny Neubauer of Denny Tools teach a class. This was a class on whittling on a stick, face structure etc. We used only a knife and no other tools. We all got basswood handled knives to carve a custom handle. Most decided to carve a practice stick today and take the knife home and carve later. I worked on a face with Denny. Not only is Denny a great tool maker he is also a great carver. I enjoyed the class. When I got home I turned my head into a little mini bust and mounted it on a walnut round I turned on the lathe. The bust is painted in acrylics and finished with Satin lacquer. You can see the item at: http://iowacarver.tripod.com/id5.html Thanks for looking as always! -- Corey IowaCarver http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ http://picasaweb.google.com/IowaWoodCarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.bloomquist at woodendreamz.com Sun Mar 22 07:44:51 2009 From: m.bloomquist at woodendreamz.com (m.bloomquist) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 07:44:51 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Niagara Falls Show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Has anyone been to the Niagara Woodcarvers Association show in Niagara Falls (Ontario)? Anyone going to be there this year (March 28&29)? Keep on Carvin' -Mike B.-> -----Original Message----- From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of m.bloomquist Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 6:50 AM To: '[Woodcarver]' Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Things Are Lookin' Up (CHAT) Merrilee, Things are finally turning around, though the winter of '08-'09 definitely will not be recorded as one of our better winters. Last weekend I taught a two day class. definitely a bright spot. Three "veterans" doing figure carving, and three beginners (one a 12 year old) carving my Swedish Luck Trolls. The 12 year old's parents tag teamed to keep their child supervised. The parental supervision is a "strong recommendation" I make for students that young. In theory, it means there is a second set of ears listening to the lesson for the student and a second set of eyes watching them for me. How's your Mom? Are things looking good for you three being at the NEWR this year? Keep on Carvin' -Mike B.-> -----Original Message----- From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Merrilee Johnson Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 9:48 AM To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] New Woodspirit Hey Mike! Your new lady spirit is beautiful! I am so far behind reading emails and just saw this one! I hope all is well with you. As usual keep up the great work! Merrilee _____ Nice job Mike and good to hear from you! Not to often you see a lady spirit and I think it looks great! Corey Hey Gang, It's been a long time since I updated my website... found my website skills very, very rusty. The web-site itself is due for a face lift, but there's no time for that yet. Anyway, this link should take you right to the new stuff... _____ Windows LiveT SkyDrive: Get 25 GB of free online storage. Check it out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dge1 at comcast.net Sun Mar 22 07:49:58 2009 From: dge1 at comcast.net (Doug Evans) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 07:49:58 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Niagara Falls Show In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <003b01c9aae4$53f5e8a0$fbe1b9e0$@net> Mike, Great Show but very wwwwwwet !! Bring a rain parka and protect your carvings at all time. I believe Joe recommends a special outdoor polyurethane !! DougE PS Off to a drier show !! Has anyone been to the Niagara Woodcarvers Association show in Niagara Falls (Ontario)? Anyone going to be there this year (March 28&29)? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.bloomquist at woodendreamz.com Sun Mar 22 07:57:10 2009 From: m.bloomquist at woodendreamz.com (m.bloomquist) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 07:57:10 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Niagara Falls Show In-Reply-To: <003b01c9aae4$53f5e8a0$fbe1b9e0$@net> Message-ID: <9FC735E1E71E4B229649709354AF8DEC@mikestoy> Sheesh Doug (eyes rolled heavenward)!! Not to worry, if I were in the show, my wood spirits are spar varnished for outdoor display . Keep on Carvin' -Mike B.-> Wooden Dreams Woodcarving http://www.woodendreamz.com -----Original Message----- From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Doug Evans Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 7:50 AM To: '[Woodcarver]' Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Niagara Falls Show Mike, Great Show but very wwwwwwet !! Bring a rain parka and protect your carvings at all time. I believe Joe recommends a special outdoor polyurethane !! DougE PS Off to a drier show !! Has anyone been to the Niagara Woodcarvers Association show in Niagara Falls (Ontario)? Anyone going to be there this year (March 28&29)? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jancarves3 at rogers.com Sun Mar 22 09:16:28 2009 From: jancarves3 at rogers.com (Jan Oegema) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:16:28 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Things Are Lookin' Up (CHAT) References: Message-ID: <3B7EBA1A88EE4C6AAB4D9251CF31F3E8@your27e1513d96> Mike B wrotes The 12 year old's parents tag teamed to keep their child supervised. The parental supervision is a "strong recommendation" I make for students that young. In theory, it means there is a second set of ears listening to the lesson for the student and a second set of eyes watching them for me. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Gives you good feeling teaching yunguns isnt it Mike I have one class (Tuesday afternoons home schooled kids) I insist that there are 2 adults here at that time and parents and or Gparents take turns coming Have a nice Sunday Woodbutcher Jan You are invited to check out my website.. http://www.janscarvingstudio.com Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From iowawoodcarver at gmail.com Sun Mar 22 09:18:58 2009 From: iowawoodcarver at gmail.com (Corey Hallagan) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:18:58 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Mini Bust In-Reply-To: <346861963F0C41A8BF1B0192A4A7688A@mikestoy> References: <49d3fd9d0903211816g73a18091l13e4ea502953c40a@mail.gmail.com> <346861963F0C41A8BF1B0192A4A7688A@mikestoy> Message-ID: <49d3fd9d0903220618q4a37d03di51926eb5606b1861@mail.gmail.com> Thanks Floyd Jan and Mike, it was a good experience for me and my first official "Class". Thanks Mike on the bottle stopper, what's even better is I turned it into 20.00 :) Corey On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 5:59 AM, m.bloomquist wrote: > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > > Corey, > > > > Sounds like a great workshop. You sure came away with a good piece. BTW, > I liked the hillbilly bottle stopper too, and the story that went with it. > It just reinforces the idea that there are ?no mistakes, just pattern > alterations? ;-). Nice work on both. > > > > *Keep on Carvin'* > *-Mike B.->* > *Wooden Dreams Woodcarving* > *http://www.woodendreamz.com* > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto: > woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] *On Behalf Of *Corey Hallagan > *Sent:* Saturday, March 21, 2009 9:16 PM > *To:* Woodcarvers > *Subject:* [Woodcarver] Mini Bust > > > > Hello all, hope everyone is having a great weekend. Today at the club we > had Denny Neubauer of Denny Tools teach a class. This was a class on > whittling on a stick, face structure etc. We used only a knife and no other > tools. We all got basswood handled knives to carve a custom handle. Most > decided to carve a practice stick today and take the knife home and carve > later. I worked on a face with Denny. Not only is Denny a great tool maker > he is also a great carver. I enjoyed the class. When I got home I turned my > head into a little mini bust and mounted it on a walnut round I turned on > the lathe. The bust is painted in acrylics and finished with Satin lacquer. > You can see the item at: http://iowacarver.tripod.com/id5.html > Thanks for looking as always! > > -- > Corey > IowaCarver > > http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ > > http://picasaweb.google.com/IowaWoodCarver > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > -- Corey IowaCarver http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ http://picasaweb.google.com/IowaWoodCarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From iowawoodcarver at gmail.com Sun Mar 22 09:21:37 2009 From: iowawoodcarver at gmail.com (Corey Hallagan) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:21:37 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Things Are Lookin' Up (CHAT) In-Reply-To: <3B7EBA1A88EE4C6AAB4D9251CF31F3E8@your27e1513d96> References: <3B7EBA1A88EE4C6AAB4D9251CF31F3E8@your27e1513d96> Message-ID: <49d3fd9d0903220621p194e665fv211903b2336a2a2@mail.gmail.com> I am glad their are folks like you Mike out their willing to teach especially the young'uns, the sport (blood sport as our club president calls it) needs them! Corey On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Jan Oegema wrote: > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > > Mike B wrotes > > The 12 year old?s parents tag teamed to keep their child supervised. The > parental supervision is a ?strong recommendation? I make for students that > young. In theory, it means there is a second set of ears listening to the > lesson for the student and a second set of eyes watching them for me. > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Gives you good feeling teaching yunguns isnt it Mike > > I have one class (Tuesday afternoons home schooled kids) > > I insist that there are 2 adults here at that time and parents and or > Gparents take turns coming > > Have a nice Sunday > Woodbutcher Jan > > > You are invited to check out my website.. > http://www.janscarvingstudio.com > > Also take a look at my picture trail albums ... > http://www.picturetrail.com/woodbutcher > > http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/forum/ > > > http://www.woodcarvingillustrated.com/pdfdownloads/2082ChristmasGnome.pdf > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > -- Corey IowaCarver http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ http://picasaweb.google.com/IowaWoodCarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdillett at thecarvingshop.net Sun Mar 22 09:50:15 2009 From: jdillett at thecarvingshop.net (Joe Dillett) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:50:15 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Mini Bust References: <49d3fd9d0903211816g73a18091l13e4ea502953c40a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <54E90497F2EB4232AAE265B4EF97FC7E@Joe> Hi Corey, Your Mini Bust looks good. I like the paint job too. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: Corey Hallagan To: Woodcarvers Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 8:16 PM Subject: Spam:***, [Woodcarver] Mini Bust Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hello all, hope everyone is having a great weekend. Today at the club we had Denny Neubauer of Denny Tools teach a class. This was a class on whittling on a stick, face structure etc. We used only a knife and no other tools. We all got basswood handled knives to carve a custom handle. Most decided to carve a practice stick today and take the knife home and carve later. I worked on a face with Denny. Not only is Denny a great tool maker he is also a great carver. I enjoyed the class. When I got home I turned my head into a little mini bust and mounted it on a walnut round I turned on the lathe. The bust is painted in acrylics and finished with Satin lacquer. You can see the item at: http://iowacarver.tripod.com/id5.html Thanks for looking as always! -- Corey IowaCarver http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ http://picasaweb.google.com/IowaWoodCarver ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brigette1956 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 22 12:36:59 2009 From: brigette1956 at yahoo.com (brigette thompson) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:36:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] Niagara Falls Show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <457740.34333.qm@web65412.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> The show in Niagara Falls is all indoors at the Optimist Recreation Hall. It has a good representation of all skill levels and is very well organized. We have attended for several years and enjoyed it. There are usually a couple of supply vendors, and on Sunday morning they have a "seminar" before the show opens to the public. I don't know if you have to be a club member to attend the seminar, you'd have to check with the organizer for that info. The competition has a good turnout and there are always two or three purchase awards including everything from animals to caricatures. If you want contact info give me a shout off list birg at persona.ca and I will send you the organizer's email addy. ? Regards Brigette ? --- On Sun, 3/22/09, m.bloomquist wrote: From: m.bloomquist Subject: [Woodcarver] Niagara Falls Show To: "'[Woodcarver]'" Received: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 4:44 AM Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver __________________________________________________________________ Instant Messaging, free SMS, sharing photos and more... Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger at http://ca.beta.messenger.yahoo.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From whitwood at fairpoint.net Sun Mar 22 12:50:05 2009 From: whitwood at fairpoint.net (Marcia Berkall) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:50:05 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Sundy Woodcarver Chat Message-ID: <20090322165007.790921BFAD6@smtp0.av-mx.com> Join in on the fun!!! For informative and fun REAL TIME conversations with a number of the carvers on "The List", come to the Woodcarver chats. We don't always talk about carving, but if anyone has a question or comment, we can get serious in a hurry. Get to know the people behind the names. And bring you carving questions with you!!! We meet on Wednesday nights at 9:30 PM Eastern and on Sundays at 4:30 PM Eastern. If you are NOT using an IRC chat program, I think you will like these simplified instructions!!! Just click on one of the links below...either will take you directly to #Woodcarverchat http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_williamslake.html?chan=#Woodcarverchat http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_stopover.html?chan=#woodcarverchat This may take a LONG time to load!!!!!!! Don't give up. When it finally does load, you will be asked to type in a nickname.....then click connect, and wait a little bit longer. The chat screen will open. Type something in the narrow horizontal space just below the chat screen and hit you enter key. Nothing to it! :) If you are using WebTV or still have trouble getting there, one of these links will work...we just save them as a last resort in case all other links don't work: http://63.79.14.90/cgi-bin/irc.cgi http://cobra-ip1.vipershells.com/cgi-bin/irc.cgi http://stopover.ky.us.starlink-irc.org/cgi-bin/irc.cgi (This one will have the fastest connection) Type in a nickname where it says"nickname"i Where is says, "channel", type in #woodcarverchat (don't forget the #). ******* If you are using an mIRC chat program: 1. Log onto your ISP. 2. Open mIRC. You should see a box "mIRC Options". If you don't then click on View then on "Options" Fill in the information there...you do NOT have to put in your real name or email address. For security purposes, make them up. Do put in the nickname you want and an alternative. 4. Click on the button with the sunburst icon, just to the right of the button that says, "Connect to Server". Where it says "IRC Network", scroll down until you see "Starlink-IRC" and highlight that so it shows in the window. There is also a Starlink network, so make sure that the one you select has the "IRC" after it. Now click on the arrow next to the IRC server window. That will list a number of Starlink-IRC servers....select one of them. The Starlink-IRC random server will automatically pick one of the servers for you, so you can use that one. With one of the Starlink-IRC servers in the window, click on "Connect to Server" If the Starlink Random Server is not in your mirc program you can add it: Click the "add" button. Where it says "Description" type "Starlink Random Server" Where it says "IRC Server" type IRC.STARLINK-IRC.ORG Port should be 6664,6665,6666,6667,6668,6669 (all of those with no spaces between them) and "Group" is Starlink-IRC 5. Once connected, you'll see lots of scrolling text. When that stops, type /join #Woodcarverchat in the window at the bottom and hit your "enter" key. (you need the / and #, and Woodcarverchat must be spelled exactly right) I have put these instructions on a web page with direct links at http://artwebmaine.com/woodcarverchat.html You may want to bookmark it. ******* See you there! E-mail me off the list for additional information and instructions. Marcia Berkall whitwood at fairpoint.net See Marcia's wood carvings at: http://whittlinsnwood.com Blog: http://cahvah.wordpress.com/ ***** Affordable Web Page Design: http://artwebmaine.com ***** Get 20% Off CoffeeCup Web Design Software Use this code when you checkout: 226STS www.getcoffeecup.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From woodcarver87 at cox.net Sun Mar 22 13:19:52 2009 From: woodcarver87 at cox.net (John Anderson) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:19:52 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Mini Bust References: <49d3fd9d0903211816g73a18091l13e4ea502953c40a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <588BE4CAED3B4E4F8C5F764A4E2D4F2B@Dad> Hey Corey, Thanks for sharing. Sounds like you had a ball! I don't have any of Denny's knives, but I luv his gouges. john a John Anderson - Bristol, RI Pictures of my woodcarvings can be found at: http://www.picturetrail.com/john87 ----- Original Message ----- From: Corey Hallagan To: Woodcarvers Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 9:16 PM Subject: [Woodcarver] Mini Bust Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hello all, hope everyone is having a great weekend. Today at the club we had Denny Neubauer of Denny Tools teach a class. This was a class on whittling on a stick, face structure etc. We used only a knife and no other tools. We all got basswood handled knives to carve a custom handle. Most decided to carve a practice stick today and take the knife home and carve later. I worked on a face with Denny. Not only is Denny a great tool maker he is also a great carver. I enjoyed the class. When I got home I turned my head into a little mini bust and mounted it on a walnut round I turned on the lathe. The bust is painted in acrylics and finished with Satin lacquer. You can see the item at: http://iowacarver.tripod.com/id5.html Thanks for looking as always! -- Corey IowaCarver http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ http://picasaweb.google.com/IowaWoodCarver ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.23/2016 - Release Date: 03/21/09 17:58:00 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From iowawoodcarver at gmail.com Sun Mar 22 13:39:38 2009 From: iowawoodcarver at gmail.com (Corey Hallagan) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:39:38 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Mini Bust In-Reply-To: <588BE4CAED3B4E4F8C5F764A4E2D4F2B@Dad> References: <49d3fd9d0903211816g73a18091l13e4ea502953c40a@mail.gmail.com> <588BE4CAED3B4E4F8C5F764A4E2D4F2B@Dad> Message-ID: <49d3fd9d0903221039k9766464h8705a3a30f9f484c@mail.gmail.com> Thanks Joe and John. John I have a mini detail knife by Denny that I love but my go too knives are my Wells knives but I too love the Denny gouges. They are my favorites. Denny has a new line of mallet tools he was talking about but I haven't seen them yet. Thanks guys! Corey On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 12:19 PM, John Anderson wrote: > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > > Hey Corey, > Thanks for sharing. Sounds like you had a ball! I don't have any of > Denny's knives, but I luv his gouges. john a > > John Anderson - Bristol, RI > Pictures of my woodcarvings can be found at: > http://www.picturetrail.com/john87 > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Corey Hallagan > *To:* Woodcarvers > *Sent:* Saturday, March 21, 2009 9:16 PM > *Subject:* [Woodcarver] Mini Bust > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > ------------------------------ > > Hello all, hope everyone is having a great weekend. Today at the club we > had Denny Neubauer of Denny Tools teach a class. This was a class on > whittling on a stick, face structure etc. We used only a knife and no other > tools. We all got basswood handled knives to carve a custom handle. Most > decided to carve a practice stick today and take the knife home and carve > later. I worked on a face with Denny. Not only is Denny a great tool maker > he is also a great carver. I enjoyed the class. When I got home I turned my > head into a little mini bust and mounted it on a walnut round I turned on > the lathe. The bust is painted in acrylics and finished with Satin lacquer. > You can see the item at: http://iowacarver.tripod.com/id5.html > Thanks for looking as always! > > -- > Corey > IowaCarver > > http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ > > http://picasaweb.google.com/IowaWoodCarver > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > > ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.23/2016 - Release Date: 03/21/09 > 17:58:00 > > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > -- Corey IowaCarver http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ http://picasaweb.google.com/IowaWoodCarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From m.bloomquist at woodendreamz.com Sun Mar 22 22:06:27 2009 From: m.bloomquist at woodendreamz.com (m.bloomquist) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:06:27 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Toys Without Guilt In-Reply-To: <49d3fd9d0903220618q4a37d03di51926eb5606b1861@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1BB927C59DEC4B499C3D1396388C05F1@mikestoy> Corey, Congrats on the sale. Gotta love those "green ribbons" . Back when I got started "discretionary funds" were scarce, so it was great when I could use carving sales to buy tools and wood. I referred to them as "toys without guilt". still do. I can't quit my day job, but the toys have gotten bigger, more expensive, there are more carving trips and then there's my book "habit", so I'm making progress. Keep on Carvin' -Mike B.-> -----Original Message----- From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Corey Hallagan Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 9:19 AM To: [Woodcarver] Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Mini Bust Thanks Floyd Jan and Mike, it was a good experience for me and my first official "Class". Thanks Mike on the bottle stopper, what's even better is I turned it into 20.00 :) Corey On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 5:59 AM, m.bloomquist wrote: Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Corey, Sounds like a great workshop. You sure came away with a good piece. BTW, I liked the hillbilly bottle stopper too, and the story that went with it. It just reinforces the idea that there are "no mistakes, just pattern alterations" ;-). Nice work on both. Keep on Carvin' -Mike B.-> Wooden Dreams Woodcarving http://www.woodendreamz.com -----Original Message----- From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Corey Hallagan Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 9:16 PM To: Woodcarvers Subject: [Woodcarver] Mini Bust Hello all, hope everyone is having a great weekend. Today at the club we had Denny Neubauer of Denny Tools teach a class. This was a class on whittling on a stick, face structure etc. We used only a knife and no other tools. We all got basswood handled knives to carve a custom handle. Most decided to carve a practice stick today and take the knife home and carve later. I worked on a face with Denny. Not only is Denny a great tool maker he is also a great carver. I enjoyed the class. When I got home I turned my head into a little mini bust and mounted it on a walnut round I turned on the lathe. The bust is painted in acrylics and finished with Satin lacquer. You can see the item at: http://iowacarver.tripod.com/id5.html Thanks for looking as always! -- Corey IowaCarver http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ http://picasaweb.google.com/IowaWoodCarver _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -- Corey IowaCarver http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ http://picasaweb.google.com/IowaWoodCarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From iowawoodcarver at gmail.com Sun Mar 22 23:43:43 2009 From: iowawoodcarver at gmail.com (Corey Hallagan) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:43:43 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Toys Without Guilt In-Reply-To: <1BB927C59DEC4B499C3D1396388C05F1@mikestoy> References: <49d3fd9d0903220618q4a37d03di51926eb5606b1861@mail.gmail.com> <1BB927C59DEC4B499C3D1396388C05F1@mikestoy> Message-ID: <49d3fd9d0903222043r21fbfd02n41b29da16aac79a7@mail.gmail.com> I think we are in the same place Mike :) I have a tool, book and DVD habit that won't quit! Corey On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 9:06 PM, m.bloomquist wrote: > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > > Corey, > > Congrats on the sale. Gotta love those ?green ribbons? . Back when I > got started ?discretionary funds? were scarce, so it was great when I could > use carving sales to buy tools and wood. I referred to them as ?toys > without guilt?? still do. I can?t quit my day job, but the toys have gotten > bigger, more expensive, there are more carving trips and then there?s my > book ?habit?, so I?m making progress. > > *Keep on Carvin'* > *-Mike B.->* > > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto: > woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] *On Behalf Of *Corey Hallagan > *Sent:* Sunday, March 22, 2009 9:19 AM > *To:* [Woodcarver] > *Subject:* Re: [Woodcarver] Mini Bust > > > > Thanks Floyd Jan and Mike, it was a good experience for me and my first > official "Class". Thanks Mike on the bottle stopper, what's even better is > I turned it into 20.00 :) > > Corey > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 5:59 AM, m.bloomquist < > m.bloomquist at woodendreamz.com> wrote: > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > > Corey, > > > > Sounds like a great workshop. You sure came away with a good piece. BTW, > I liked the hillbilly bottle stopper too, and the story that went with it. > It just reinforces the idea that there are ?no mistakes, just pattern > alterations? ;-). Nice work on both. > > > > *Keep on Carvin'* > *-Mike B.->* > *Wooden Dreams Woodcarving* > *http://www.woodendreamz.com* > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto: > woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] *On Behalf Of *Corey Hallagan > *Sent:* Saturday, March 21, 2009 9:16 PM > *To:* Woodcarvers > *Subject:* [Woodcarver] Mini Bust > > > > Hello all, hope everyone is having a great weekend. Today at the club we > had Denny Neubauer of Denny Tools teach a class. This was a class on > whittling on a stick, face structure etc. We used only a knife and no other > tools. We all got basswood handled knives to carve a custom handle. Most > decided to carve a practice stick today and take the knife home and carve > later. I worked on a face with Denny. Not only is Denny a great tool maker > he is also a great carver. I enjoyed the class. When I got home I turned my > head into a little mini bust and mounted it on a walnut round I turned on > the lathe. The bust is painted in acrylics and finished with Satin lacquer. > You can see the item at: http://iowacarver.tripod.com/id5.html > Thanks for looking as always! > > -- > Corey > IowaCarver > > http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ > > http://picasaweb.google.com/IowaWoodCarver > > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > > > > > -- > Corey > IowaCarver > > http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ > > http://picasaweb.google.com/IowaWoodCarver > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > -- Corey IowaCarver http://iowacarver.tripod.com/ http://picasaweb.google.com/IowaWoodCarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you have any questions please contact me Mark Whillock Whillock Woodcarving www.stubaidirect.com www.woodcarverswarehouse.com 507-330-8392 --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html --- From jdillett at thecarvingshop.net Mon Mar 23 10:09:54 2009 From: jdillett at thecarvingshop.net (Joe Dillett) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:09:54 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Toys Without Guilt References: <1BB927C59DEC4B499C3D1396388C05F1@mikestoy> Message-ID: <5B27B09B4BE54BD1A1E41FC92FDCC223@Joe> Congrats on the sale. Gotta love those "green ribbons" . Back when I got started "discretionary funds" were scarce, so it was great when I could use carving sales to buy tools and wood. I referred to them as "toys without guilt". still do. I can't quit my day job, but the toys have gotten bigger, more expensive, there are more carving trips and then there's my book "habit", so I'm making progress. Keep on Carvin' -Mike B.-> ************************** Hi Mike B, That's one very cool thing about woodcarving, is getting some of those "Green" ribbons. I was working a home improvement show this weekend with Mike, one of my apprentices. I was excited when he received an offer of $2,000 on two of his butternut busts, that were unpriced and unfinished, he had on the table. All he has left was a few hours to finish them, a little cleanup and apply the sealer. But he tuned it down saying that he wasn't ready to sell them. It's nice to have that option too. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Apparently they then moved their manufacturing site from Canada to Taiwan, after which there are some very negative reviews in 2007 describing gross manufacturing defects and quality control problems with DeWalt doing little to correct the reported problems. However, the most recent 2009 reviews are once again favorable, suggesting they may have resolved their issues. Does anyone have any recent experience with these saws? I do not have a store nearby where I can actually inspect or test a saw before buying it. The best currently available deal on the 788 is through Woodcraft. For about the same price as the other outlets they will throw in a stand and light and also ship free through March 31. I have had good experience with Woodcraft customer service so that might help. I would appreciate any advice. Ned Megargee in Havana, FL. **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219858252x1201366219/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DMarchfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdillett at thecarvingshop.net Mon Mar 23 14:54:16 2009 From: jdillett at thecarvingshop.net (Joe Dillett) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:54:16 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] DeWalt Scroll Saws References: Message-ID: Hi Ned, I have a DeWalt 788 and love it. I bought mine about 4 years ago on Ebay, including stand, light and shipping for $375. It only had a few hours of use on it. It still looks and runs like new after many hours of use. I just checked out Ebay and saw new 'still in the box' DeWalt 788 from $218 and up. Also some stands. I wouldn't worry about buying a good used one because they are well designed. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: Megargee at aol.com To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] DeWalt Scroll Saws Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I carve Celtic love spoons, many of which have pierced handles. I have been using a 10-year old Craftsman scroll saw to cut the handles, but the vibration and the difficulty getting blades positioned for interior cuts are aggravating. A scroll sawyer whose work I admired at a recent craft show recommended the DeWalt 788. I read the reviews of this saw on Amazon. Up through 2006, the reviews are uniformly quite favorable. Apparently they then moved their manufacturing site from Canada to Taiwan, after which there are some very negative reviews in 2007 describing gross manufacturing defects and quality control problems with DeWalt doing little to correct the reported problems. However, the most recent 2009 reviews are once again favorable, suggesting they may have resolved their issues. Does anyone have any recent experience with these saws? I do not have a store nearby where I can actually inspect or test a saw before buying it. The best currently available deal on the 788 is through Woodcraft. For about the same price as the other outlets they will throw in a stand and light and also ship free through March 31. I have had good experience with Woodcraft customer service so that might help. I would appreciate any advice. Ned Megargee in Havana, FL. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donpbk at yahoo.com Mon Mar 23 15:08:12 2009 From: donpbk at yahoo.com (Donna Menke) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] DeWalt Scroll Saws In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <469733.51992.qm@web54302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Got mine from Woodcraft- same deal stand and light- 7-8 years ago. Never a problem. I've never heard anything negative about that saw- and I personally sold dozens of them. It is an excellent saw for the money. Donna Menke http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book ----- Original Message ---- > From: "Megargee at aol.com" > To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:11:57 PM > Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] DeWalt Scroll Saws > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop > at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > I carve Celtic love spoons, many of which have pierced > handles. I have been using a 10-year old Craftsman scroll saw to cut the > handles, but the vibration and the difficulty getting blades positioned for > interior cuts are aggravating. A scroll sawyer whose work I admired at a recent > craft show recommended the DeWalt 788. I read the reviews of this saw on Amazon. > > Up through 2006, the reviews are uniformly quite favorable. Apparently they then > > moved their manufacturing site from Canada to Taiwan, after which there are some > > very negative reviews in 2007 describing gross manufacturing defects and quality > > control problems with DeWalt doing little to correct the reported problems. > However, the most recent 2009 reviews are once again favorable, suggesting > they may have resolved their issues. Does anyone have any recent experience with > > these saws? I do not have a store nearby where I can actually inspect or test a > saw before buying it. > The best currently available deal on the 788 > is through Woodcraft. For about the same price as the other outlets they will > throw in a stand and light and also ship free through March 31. I have had good > experience with Woodcraft customer service so that might help. I would > appreciate any advice. > Ned Megargee in Havana, FL. > > ________________________________ > A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! From m.bloomquist at woodendreamz.com Mon Mar 23 20:45:33 2009 From: m.bloomquist at woodendreamz.com (m.bloomquist) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:45:33 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Toys Without Guilt In-Reply-To: <5B27B09B4BE54BD1A1E41FC92FDCC223@Joe> Message-ID: <85682F4CA578481A8554513996E58B49@mikestoy> Joe, Absolutely understand that option as well. I still have my first tomte, my first draft horse, but wish I still had my first Santa. I know where many of my early sales are located, because they were more like "adoptions" . The draft horse doesn't really count maybe because it wouldn't sell anyway. I call it my "pinhead horse" and its now a great teaching aid. Keep on Carvin' -Mike B.-> Wooden Dreams Woodcarving http://www.woodendreamz.com -----Original Message----- From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Joe Dillett Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 10:10 AM To: [Woodcarver] Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Toys Without Guilt Congrats on the sale. Gotta love those "green ribbons" . Back when I got started "discretionary funds" were scarce, so it was great when I could use carving sales to buy tools and wood. I referred to them as "toys without guilt". still do. I can't quit my day job, but the toys have gotten bigger, more expensive, there are more carving trips and then there's my book "habit", so I'm making progress. Keep on Carvin' -Mike B.-> ************************** Hi Mike B, That's one very cool thing about woodcarving, is getting some of those "Green" ribbons. I was working a home improvement show this weekend with Mike, one of my apprentices. I was excited when he received an offer of $2,000 on two of his butternut busts, that were unpriced and unfinished, he had on the table. All he has left was a few hours to finish them, a little cleanup and apply the sealer. But he tuned it down saying that he wasn't ready to sell them. It's nice to have that option too. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From larryodegard at yahoo.com Tue Mar 24 08:54:36 2009 From: larryodegard at yahoo.com (Larry Odegard) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 05:54:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] DeWalt Scroll Saws Message-ID: <158119.79936.qm@web33205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I've had my 788 for over 10 years now and it has seen a lot of use.? Besides "normal" use I have sawed out over 5,000 carving blanks froom 1 1/2" basswood.? I wouldn't hesitate a minute buying another. Larry Odegard Choose to have a great day! --- On Mon, 3/23/09, Joe Dillett wrote: From: Joe Dillett Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] DeWalt Scroll Saws To: "[Woodcarver]" Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 1:54 PM -----Inline Attachment Follows----- Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Hi Ned, ? I have a DeWalt 788 and love it. I bought mine about?4 years ago on Ebay, including stand, light and shipping for $375. It only had a few hours of use on it. It still looks and runs like new after many hours of use. I just checked out Ebay and saw new 'still in the box' DeWalt 788 from $218 and up. Also some stands. I wouldn't worry about?buying?a good used one because they are well designed. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 ? (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: Megargee at aol.com To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] DeWalt Scroll Saws Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving ?? I carve Celtic love spoons, many of which have pierced handles. I have been using a 10-year old Craftsman scroll saw to cut the handles, but the vibration and the difficulty getting blades positioned for interior cuts are aggravating. A scroll sawyer whose work I admired at a recent craft show recommended the DeWalt 788. I read the reviews of this saw on Amazon. Up through 2006, the reviews are uniformly quite favorable. Apparently they then moved their manufacturing site from Canada to Taiwan, after which there are some very negative reviews in 2007 describing gross manufacturing defects and quality control problems with DeWalt doing little to correct the reported problems. ?However, the most recent 2009 reviews are once again favorable, suggesting they may have resolved their issues. Does anyone have any recent experience with these saws? I do not have a store nearby where I can actually inspect or test a saw before buying it. ????? The best currently available deal on the 788 is through Woodcraft. For about the same price as the other outlets they will throw in a stand and light and also ship free through March 31. I have had good experience with Woodcraft customer service so that might help. I would appreciate any advice. ??????? Ned Megargee in Havana, FL. A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From donpbk at yahoo.com Tue Mar 24 09:08:41 2009 From: donpbk at yahoo.com (Donna Menke) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:08:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] Toys Without Guilt In-Reply-To: <85682F4CA578481A8554513996E58B49@mikestoy> References: <85682F4CA578481A8554513996E58B49@mikestoy> Message-ID: <627774.99355.qm@web54306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I got a chuckle out of you 'teaching aid' Mike. I have one also- it is a wing I burned for one of my flying hummingbirds except it has the feathers originating from the side of the bird instead of off the wings. A great example of what 'not' to do. Donna Menke http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book ----- Original Message ---- > From: m.bloomquist > To: [Woodcarver] > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 7:45:33 PM > Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Toys Without Guilt > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop > at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > > Joe, > Absolutely understand that option as well. > I still have my first tomte, my first draft horse, but wish I still had my > first Santa. I know where many of my early sales are located, because > they were more like ?adoptions? . The draft horse > doesn?t really count maybe because it wouldn?t sell anyway. I > call it my ?pinhead horse? and its now a great teaching aid. > > Keep on Carvin' > -Mike B.-> > Wooden Dreams Woodcarving > http://www.woodendreamz.com > -----Original Message----- > From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com > [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Joe Dillett > Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 10:10 > AM > To: [Woodcarver] > Subject: Re: [Woodcarver]Toys > Without Guilt > > Congrats on the > sale. Gotta love those ?green ribbons? . Back > when I got started ?discretionary funds? were scarce, so it was > great when I could use carving sales to buy tools and wood. I referred to > them as ?toys without guilt?? still do. I can?t > quit my day job, but the toys have gotten bigger, more expensive, there are > more carving trips and then there?s my book ?habit?, so > I?m making progress. > Keep > on Carvin' > -Mike B.-> > ************************** > Hi Mike B, > > That's one very cool thing about woodcarving, is > getting some of those "Green" ribbons. > > I was working a home improvement show this > weekend with Mike, one of my apprentices. I was excited when he received an > offer of $2,000 on two of his butternut busts, that were unpriced and > unfinished, he had on the table. All he has left was a few hours to finish > them, a little cleanup and apply the sealer. But he tuned it down saying that > he wasn't ready to sell them. It's nice to have that option too. > > Joe Dillett > The Carving Shop > 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 > Somonauk, IL. 60552 > > (815) 498-9290 phone > (815) 498-9249 fax > http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] > http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] > http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett > ****************************************************************** From Megargee at aol.com Tue Mar 24 13:28:52 2009 From: Megargee at aol.com (Megargee at aol.com) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:28:52 EDT Subject: [Woodcarver] DeWalt 788 Message-ID: Thanks to all for the feedback on the DeWalt. I will look into Joe's suggestion of getting a used one. Ned Megargee in Havana, FL **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220085203x1201389322/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DMarchfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdillett at thecarvingshop.net Tue Mar 24 13:42:29 2009 From: jdillett at thecarvingshop.net (Joe Dillett) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:42:29 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] DeWalt Scroll Saws References: <158119.79936.qm@web33205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Larry, The reason I got my DeWalt 788 was I got a job to cut out small leaf designs in 3/4-inch thick oak plywood for a church that was being renovated. There were 9 of these panels that went around the sanctuary behind the altar. Each panel was 8-foot high by 3-foot wide. I made a large table, from counter top material, that clamped to the existing saw's work table. The large table needed floor supports on both ends to stabilize it. There were thousands of small cut-outs where both ends of the blade had to be disconnected and fed through the next hole. Over the 4 weeks that we worked on them Tina, my apprentice, got a great leg workout from doing deep knee bends disconnecting and connection the lower portion of the blade thousands of times. As it turned out that was the most profitable job I did that year. Since then the 788 had a lot of other challenges and all of them it came through with flying colors. Most of the work I do on it is too large to turn so I've just been using the spiral blades ever since I got it. I had a Powermatic scroll saw before the 788 that got donated to the boy scouts. The Powermatic is a toy compared to the DeWalt 788. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Odegard To: [Woodcarver] Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:54 AM Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] DeWalt Scroll Saws Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've had my 788 for over 10 years now and it has seen a lot of use. Besides "normal" use I have sawed out over 5,000 carving blanks froom 1 1/2" basswood. I wouldn't hesitate a minute buying another. Larry Odegard Choose to have a great day! --- On Mon, 3/23/09, Joe Dillett wrote: From: Joe Dillett Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] DeWalt Scroll Saws To: "[Woodcarver]" Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 1:54 PM -----Inline Attachment Follows----- Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Hi Ned, I have a DeWalt 788 and love it. I bought mine about 4 years ago on Ebay, including stand, light and shipping for $375. It only had a few hours of use on it. It still looks and runs like new after many hours of use. I just checked out Ebay and saw new 'still in the box' DeWalt 788 from $218 and up. Also some stands. I wouldn't worry about buying a good used one because they are well designed. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: Megargee at aol.com To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] DeWalt Scroll Saws Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving -------------------------------------------------------------------- I carve Celtic love spoons, many of which have pierced handles. I have been using a 10-year old Craftsman scroll saw to cut the handles, but the vibration and the difficulty getting blades positioned for interior cuts are aggravating. A scroll sawyer whose work I admired at a recent craft show recommended the DeWalt 788. I read the reviews of this saw on Amazon. Up through 2006, the reviews are uniformly quite favorable. Apparently they then moved their manufacturing site from Canada to Taiwan, after which there are some very negative reviews in 2007 describing gross manufacturing defects and quality control problems with DeWalt doing little to correct the reported problems. However, the most recent 2009 reviews are once again favorable, suggesting they may have resolved their issues. Does anyone have any recent experience with these saws? I do not have a store nearby where I can actually inspect or test a saw before buying it. The best currently available deal on the 788 is through Woodcraft. For about the same price as the other outlets they will throw in a stand and light and also ship free through March 31. I have had good experience with Woodcraft customer service so that might help. I would appreciate any advice. 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The large table needed floor supports on both ends to stabilize it. There were thousands of small cut-outs where both ends of the blade had to be disconnected and fed through the next hole. Over the 4 weeks that we worked on them Tina, my apprentice, got a great leg workout from doing deep knee bends disconnecting and connection the lower portion of the blade thousands of times. As it turned out that was the most profitable job I did that year. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From larryodegard at yahoo.com Wed Mar 25 09:37:11 2009 From: larryodegard at yahoo.com (Larry Odegard) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:37:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] DeWalt Scroll Saws Message-ID: <263915.90096.qm@web33207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Joe,? Wow,? I thought I put my 788 through a workout!? Can I use that as a testamonial when I tell people how great they are at Rockler's?? hehe.? We've started a scroll saw group with the first meeting last month. 44 people showed up so there is interest. Larry Odegard Choose to have a great day! --- On Tue, 3/24/09, Joe Dillett wrote: From: Joe Dillett Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] DeWalt Scroll Saws To: "[Woodcarver]" Date: Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 12:42 PM -----Inline Attachment Follows----- Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Hi Larry, ? The reason I got my DeWalt 788 was I got a job?to cut out?small?leaf designs in 3/4-inch thick oak plywood for a church that was being renovated. There were?9?of these panels that?went around the sanctuary behind the altar.?Each panel was 8-foot high by 3-foot wide. I made a large table, from counter top material,?that clamped to the existing saw's work?table. The large table needed floor supports on both ends to stabilize it. There were thousands of small cut-outs where both ends of the blade had to be disconnected and fed through the next hole.?Over the?4 weeks that we worked on them Tina, my apprentice, got a great leg workout from doing deep knee bends disconnecting and connection the lower portion of the blade thousands of times. As it turned out that was the most profitable job I did that year. ? Since then the 788 had a lot of other challenges and all of them it came through with flying colors. Most of the work I do on it is too large to turn so I've just been using the spiral blades ever since I got it. I had a Powermatic scroll saw before the 788 that got donated to the boy scouts. The Powermatic is a toy compared to the DeWalt 788. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 ? (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Odegard To: [Woodcarver] Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:54 AM Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] DeWalt Scroll Saws Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving I've had my 788 for over 10 years now and it has seen a lot of use.? Besides "normal" use I have sawed out over 5,000 carving blanks froom 1 1/2" basswood.? I wouldn't hesitate a minute buying another. Larry Odegard Choose to have a great day! --- On Mon, 3/23/09, Joe Dillett wrote: From: Joe Dillett Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] DeWalt Scroll Saws To: "[Woodcarver]" Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 1:54 PM -----Inline Attachment Follows----- Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Hi Ned, ? I have a DeWalt 788 and love it. I bought mine about?4 years ago on Ebay, including stand, light and shipping for $375. It only had a few hours of use on it. It still looks and runs like new after many hours of use. I just checked out Ebay and saw new 'still in the box' DeWalt 788 from $218 and up. Also some stands. I wouldn't worry about?buying?a good used one because they are well designed. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 ? (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: Megargee at aol.com To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] DeWalt Scroll Saws Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving ?? I carve Celtic love spoons, many of which have pierced handles. I have been using a 10-year old Craftsman scroll saw to cut the handles, but the vibration and the difficulty getting blades positioned for interior cuts are aggravating. A scroll sawyer whose work I admired at a recent craft show recommended the DeWalt 788. I read the reviews of this saw on Amazon. Up through 2006, the reviews are uniformly quite favorable. Apparently they then moved their manufacturing site from Canada to Taiwan, after which there are some very negative reviews in 2007 describing gross manufacturing defects and quality control problems with DeWalt doing little to correct the reported problems. ?However, the most recent 2009 reviews are once again favorable, suggesting they may have resolved their issues. Does anyone have any recent experience with these saws? I do not have a store nearby where I can actually inspect or test a saw before buying it. ????? The best currently available deal on the 788 is through Woodcraft. For about the same price as the other outlets they will throw in a stand and light and also ship free through March 31. I have had good experience with Woodcraft customer service so that might help. I would appreciate any advice. ??????? Ned Megargee in Havana, FL. A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. 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I used separate roller supports under the extended ends of the table to take the stress off of the existing round table supports. It work like a charm. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Odegard To: [Woodcarver] Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] DeWalt Scroll Saws Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hi Joe, Wow, I thought I put my 788 through a workout! Can I use that as a testamonial when I tell people how great they are at Rockler's? hehe. We've started a scroll saw group with the first meeting last month. 44 people showed up so there is interest. Larry Odegard Choose to have a great day! --- On Tue, 3/24/09, Joe Dillett wrote: From: Joe Dillett Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] DeWalt Scroll Saws To: "[Woodcarver]" Date: Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 12:42 PM -----Inline Attachment Follows----- Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Hi Larry, The reason I got my DeWalt 788 was I got a job to cut out small leaf designs in 3/4-inch thick oak plywood for a church that was being renovated. There were 9 of these panels that went around the sanctuary behind the altar. Each panel was 8-foot high by 3-foot wide. I made a large table, from counter top material, that clamped to the existing saw's work table. The large table needed floor supports on both ends to stabilize it. There were thousands of small cut-outs where both ends of the blade had to be disconnected and fed through the next hole. Over the 4 weeks that we worked on them Tina, my apprentice, got a great leg workout from doing deep knee bends disconnecting and connection the lower portion of the blade thousands of times. As it turned out that was the most profitable job I did that year. Since then the 788 had a lot of other challenges and all of them it came through with flying colors. Most of the work I do on it is too large to turn so I've just been using the spiral blades ever since I got it. I had a Powermatic scroll saw before the 788 that got donated to the boy scouts. The Powermatic is a toy compared to the DeWalt 788. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Odegard To: [Woodcarver] Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:54 AM Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] DeWalt Scroll Saws Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving -------------------------------------------------------------------- I've had my 788 for over 10 years now and it has seen a lot of use. Besides "normal" use I have sawed out over 5,000 carving blanks froom 1 1/2" basswood. I wouldn't hesitate a minute buying another. Larry Odegard Choose to have a great day! --- On Mon, 3/23/09, Joe Dillett wrote: From: Joe Dillett Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] DeWalt Scroll Saws To: "[Woodcarver]" Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 1:54 PM -----Inline Attachment Follows----- Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Hi Ned, I have a DeWalt 788 and love it. I bought mine about 4 years ago on Ebay, including stand, light and shipping for $375. It only had a few hours of use on it. It still looks and runs like new after many hours of use. I just checked out Ebay and saw new 'still in the box' DeWalt 788 from $218 and up. Also some stands. I wouldn't worry about buying a good used one because they are well designed. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: Megargee at aol.com To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] DeWalt Scroll Saws Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving ---------------------------------------------------------- I carve Celtic love spoons, many of which have pierced handles. I have been using a 10-year old Craftsman scroll saw to cut the handles, but the vibration and the difficulty getting blades positioned for interior cuts are aggravating. A scroll sawyer whose work I admired at a recent craft show recommended the DeWalt 788. I read the reviews of this saw on Amazon. Up through 2006, the reviews are uniformly quite favorable. Apparently they then moved their manufacturing site from Canada to Taiwan, after which there are some very negative reviews in 2007 describing gross manufacturing defects and quality control problems with DeWalt doing little to correct the reported problems. However, the most recent 2009 reviews are once again favorable, suggesting they may have resolved their issues. Does anyone have any recent experience with these saws? I do not have a store nearby where I can actually inspect or test a saw before buying it. The best currently available deal on the 788 is through Woodcraft. For about the same price as the other outlets they will throw in a stand and light and also ship free through March 31. I have had good experience with Woodcraft customer service so that might help. I would appreciate any advice. Ned Megargee in Havana, FL. ---------------------------------------------------------- A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. 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By the way, the Dewalt will not take standard sanding strips. I ordered a number of custom made sanding strips to fit the DeWalt. If anyone is interested in them, contact me off list. -- Ron Ramsey http://www.carvedbyramsey.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ron-Ramsey-Woodcarversculptor/55391262469?v=wall&viewas=1186712583 Be sure to look at the incredible nature inspired art jewelry hand fabricated by my wife, Karen Olsen Ramsey. It's worth the time to take a look! http://www.artjeweler.com http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/pages/Karen-Olsen-Ramsey-art-jeweler/47697155027?ref=ts From jdillett at thecarvingshop.net Wed Mar 25 16:31:43 2009 From: jdillett at thecarvingshop.net (Joe Dillett) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:31:43 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] . Re: DeWalt Scroll Saws References: Message-ID: <18FB2788F6704F2495CA9E62D8825E85@Joe> Hi Ron, Very nice music stand that you carved for Baldwin. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ramsey" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 12:43 PM Subject: [Woodcarver] . Re: DeWalt Scroll Saws > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > I bought a DeWalt band saw for a commission I had to carve a piano for the > Baldwin Piano Co. It worked great, but the cumbersome process of > disconnecting the blade for each cutout was too time consuming. I > switched to a 1/8" straight carbide bit in my router. The cutting was > probably 5 to 10 times faster and the finish much smoother. Here's a link > to a photo of the carving I cut with my router: > http://www.carvedbyramsey.com/MusicDesk_.jpg > > I sold my scroll saw and now use either the band saw or router. By the > way, the Dewalt will not take standard sanding strips. I ordered a number > of custom made sanding strips to fit the DeWalt. If anyone is interested > in them, contact me off list. > -- > Ron Ramsey > http://www.carvedbyramsey.com > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ron-Ramsey-Woodcarversculptor/55391262469?v=wall&viewas=1186712583 > > > Be sure to look at the incredible nature inspired art jewelry hand > fabricated by my wife, Karen Olsen Ramsey. It's worth the time to take a > look! > http://www.artjeweler.com > http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/pages/Karen-Olsen-Ramsey-art-jeweler/47697155027?ref=ts > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > From whitwood at fairpoint.net Wed Mar 25 19:55:49 2009 From: whitwood at fairpoint.net (Marcia Berkall) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:55:49 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Wednesday Woodcarver Chat Message-ID: <20090325235550.A800A1BFAE5@smtp0.av-mx.com> Join in on the fun!!! For informative and fun REAL TIME conversations with a number of the carvers on "The List", come to the Woodcarver chats. We don't always talk about carving, but if anyone has a question or comment, we can get serious in a hurry. Get to know the people behind the names. And bring you carving questions with you!!! We meet on Wednesday nights at 9:30 PM Eastern and on Sundays at 4:30 PM Eastern. If you are NOT using an IRC chat program, I think you will like these simplified instructions!!! Just click on one of the links below...either will take you directly to #Woodcarverchat http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_williamslake.html?chan=#Woodcarverchat http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_stopover.html?chan=#woodcarverchat This may take a LONG time to load!!!!!!! Don't give up. When it finally does load, you will be asked to type in a nickname.....then click connect, and wait a little bit longer. The chat screen will open. Type something in the narrow horizontal space just below the chat screen and hit you enter key. Nothing to it! :) If you are using WebTV or still have trouble getting there, one of these links will work...we just save them as a last resort in case all other links don't work: http://63.79.14.90/cgi-bin/irc.cgi http://cobra-ip1.vipershells.com/cgi-bin/irc.cgi http://stopover.ky.us.starlink-irc.org/cgi-bin/irc.cgi (This one will have the fastest connection) Type in a nickname where it says"nickname"i Where is says, "channel", type in #woodcarverchat (don't forget the #). ******* If you are using an mIRC chat program: 1. Log onto your ISP. 2. Open mIRC. You should see a box "mIRC Options". If you don't then click on View then on "Options" Fill in the information there...you do NOT have to put in your real name or email address. For security purposes, make them up. Do put in the nickname you want and an alternative. 4. Click on the button with the sunburst icon, just to the right of the button that says, "Connect to Server". Where it says "IRC Network", scroll down until you see "Starlink-IRC" and highlight that so it shows in the window. There is also a Starlink network, so make sure that the one you select has the "IRC" after it. Now click on the arrow next to the IRC server window. That will list a number of Starlink-IRC servers....select one of them. The Starlink-IRC random server will automatically pick one of the servers for you, so you can use that one. With one of the Starlink-IRC servers in the window, click on "Connect to Server" If the Starlink Random Server is not in your mirc program you can add it: Click the "add" button. Where it says "Description" type "Starlink Random Server" Where it says "IRC Server" type IRC.STARLINK-IRC.ORG Port should be 6664,6665,6666,6667,6668,6669 (all of those with no spaces between them) and "Group" is Starlink-IRC 5. Once connected, you'll see lots of scrolling text. When that stops, type /join #Woodcarverchat in the window at the bottom and hit your "enter" key. (you need the / and #, and Woodcarverchat must be spelled exactly right) I have put these instructions on a web page with direct links at http://artwebmaine.com/woodcarverchat.html You may want to bookmark it. ******* See you there! E-mail me off the list for additional information and instructions. Marcia Berkall whitwood at fairpoint.net See Marcia's wood carvings at: http://whittlinsnwood.com Blog: http://cahvah.wordpress.com/ ***** Affordable Web Page Design: http://artwebmaine.com ***** Get 20% Off CoffeeCup Web Design Software Use this code when you checkout: 226STS www.getcoffeecup.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From celtcarver at me.com Thu Mar 26 22:46:22 2009 From: celtcarver at me.com (Matt Kelley) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:46:22 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? Message-ID: Here's a question for those who carve with the intent of selling - do you have a formal business plan? If you respond, please tell us if you are: A). A professional carver (earn all or most income from carving) B). A semi-pro (earn less than 50% from carving) C) A serious hobby carver who sells the occasional piece. If you teach in addition to carving, please include that info as well. Carve On Matt Kelley From TheLeMarHerd at comcast.net Thu Mar 26 23:16:09 2009 From: TheLeMarHerd at comcast.net (TheLeMarHerd at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:16:09 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? References: Message-ID: <76D96E1E7E9948A9BB96E713E43D69B6@SNEAKERS> I would be interested in the answer to this also. I had a few pieces in a wine and art show and (had no plans in trying to sell anything then but now...) and a few people came up and wanted to buy my carvings and woodburnings. I have no idea on where to start to try and price and sell my pieces. Missi - N - Critters Whatever you do in life, enjoy the ride. ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Kelley To: Woodcarver List Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 10:46 PM Subject: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Here's a question for those who carve with the intent of selling - do you have a formal business plan? If you respond, please tell us if you are: A). A professional carver (earn all or most income from carving) B). A semi-pro (earn less than 50% from carving) C) A serious hobby carver who sells the occasional piece. If you teach in addition to carving, please include that info as well. Carve On Matt Kelley _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From abkinnaman at earthlink.net Fri Mar 27 00:28:22 2009 From: abkinnaman at earthlink.net (Byron) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:28:22 -0700 Subject: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? Message-ID: <380-22009352742822847@earthlink.net> Both my wife and I have developed business plans in the past. She did one for freelance writing. I did one for a consulting service I was attempting to start up. Now that we're about to be retired and would like a bit of extra income we've come up with a number of things that we could do, carving is one of them. Starting in couple weeks Anne will be through working and is going to start working on a business plan(s) for some of the stuff we've talked about including carving. I think the biggest problem in marketing. Pricing works of art seems a bit difficult at times, mainly because there's no standard to work from. There's lots of internet resources to help. Check with SBA, we found them to be a great help. Byron Kinnaman abkinnaman at earthlink.net http://byronscabin.kinnamans.net/ > [Original Message] > From: Matt Kelley > To: Woodcarver List > Date: 3/26/2009 7:46:28 PM > Subject: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > Here's a question for those who carve with the intent of selling - do > you have a formal business plan? > > If you respond, please tell us if you are: > A). A professional carver (earn all or most income from carving) > B). A semi-pro (earn less than 50% from carving) > C) A serious hobby carver who sells the occasional piece. > > If you teach in addition to carving, please include that info as well. > > Carve On > > > Matt Kelley > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From dge1 at comcast.net Fri Mar 27 06:05:25 2009 From: dge1 at comcast.net (Doug Evans) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 06:05:25 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? In-Reply-To: <380-22009352742822847@earthlink.net> References: <380-22009352742822847@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <002601c9aec3$8cda43e0$a68ecba0$@net> Matt, I think it would be interesting for people to describe what they mean by having a business plan. In my business coaching I see this used in many ways. Business plans are sometimes referred to for a single sheet of paper with a few notes, a list of specific goals or benchmarks, or a 12 page typed document. I have seen multimillion dollar companies use the single sheet approach and a one person crafter have the 12 page document ( and vice versa). Business plans frequently develop when loans are applied for and the lending institution wants to see it the owner has planned for profits and the repayment of the loan. This may not be a bad approach based on current events :). Just curious. Doug Evans From jdillett at thecarvingshop.net Fri Mar 27 12:36:22 2009 From: jdillett at thecarvingshop.net (Joe Dillett) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:36:22 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? References: Message-ID: <8CE06C6F8BE642E396ADADDFA736882E@Joe> Hi Matt, You've asked an excellent question about business planning. I don't want to bore anyone but I feel this needs a long answer. Please hit the delete if I get annoying. I came from a small business background, my father owning a small plumbing business. Out of my 6 siblings 5 made there living in their own businesses from plumbing, to construction as well as in the arts (music). My sister who taught music out of her home had no reason to write her business plan down because she always had a clear focus to direct her very successful business. I, on the other hand, have always had a need to write out a business plan to keep my focus, maintain discipline and structure. If I didn't I had a tendency to head off in too many directions resulting in being very unproductive. My first business as a commercial artist failed for several reasons, primarily the lack of business planning. I became a strong believer in the need for a business plan in my woodcarving business. That was the key to my success for the 38 years in business with about half of it being full time. I retired from the Board Of Directors of SEA (Self Employment in the Arts) as of January 2008, when I also retired and closed the business side of my carving. I was on the board of SEA since it was founded by North Central College. SEA has expanded from Illinois to all over the country teaching artists how to run a successful business and helping them stay in business. My specialty was teaching and consulting on the Business Plan. I feel that every business needs a plan. Not all plans need to be written down but I encourage a written plan. One size doesn't fit all. Every business must take into consideration the type of business but most importantly the type of individual running the business. The elements of my Business Plan were: 1) Mission Statement. A simple sentence of why I am in business. This is most important because it is the rudder that keeps the business on track. Hardly a week went by that I didn't focus on my mission to see if it was still valid and to keep me on track. Just a simple "Why am I doing this?" statement. 2) Goals. What would I like to accomplish by what date. I make one year, two year and long term, challenging but achievable business goals. These are goals of things that I really want to accomplish in my business and very willing to work hard towards achieving them. I also include a wish-list of goals that may or may not be business related, such as exotic vacations. I keep these goals close at hand so I can read and reflect on them often. It is also important when a goal is achieve that it is followed by a celebration, especially nice with the family. 3) Budget. What are my total resources available? Cash flow and credit line is only one portion of the budget. I plan for Capital expenditures and other major expenditures by calculating an ROI (Return On Investment in two years or less). Fixed expenses not only include utilities, insurance, taxes, FICA, but donations to charity. My variable expenses include advertising, show expenses, travel, small tools and supplies. Material includes consumables like wood, finishes, etc. One of the most important items in the budget is to put a small percentage of gross sales away for retirement and another small percentage for venture capital. 4) Business Operations. This defined how I was to run my business within my budget. A major portion is marketing. This is the area that many people fail. Much of marketing is trial and error, finding out what works for you and what you are comfortable doing. Marketing doesn't begin with looking for places to sell your work. It begins with looking at your work, the stuff you are passionate about making, and finding out how to put that same passion and creativity into marketing it at a price you deserve to get for it. My business operations include looking professional to the public, especially customers and potential customers. Remember that when you're in business you are not your own boss, you've got hundreds of bosses. I found that I could get much higher prices if I looked professional. To look professional I used professional looking quotes, drawings and regular updates on the progress including photos by email, invoices and accurate record keeping (all being made very easy with computers). Doing good work on time at a fair price is only half of the reason that I have no dissatisfied customers in the past 38 years. The other half being good communications and better value then they expected. I always made the customer feel like they were getting more then what was originally agreed upon, which was always planed for when I took the order. Business operation includes the discipline to budget time, make sure calls are returned promptly, put in a good days work even if the chisels are not speaking to you, make quick accurate quotes and taking the time to make every customer feel that they are special. 5) Review the Business Plan and update it regularly. Many times the investment is made to create a business plan but not followed. I was president of a fine art school (volunteer position) where we invested much time in updating our business plan, especially marketing, to qualify for a 501C charity organization. After we qualified they had little interest in following the plan. When I saw they were content to struggle from grant to grant without changing I resigned. When you make a new business plan there are many areas that are not real. To make the business plan work you must go back revising the plan to make those areas real and profitable. The only way to fix it is with regular reviews. There are times that you want to take your business in a whole new direction. That begins with a new Mission Statement, new goals and everything else. If you find that your business has changed but you've not changed your plan you are flying blind with no plan at all. I did quarterly reviews and annual reviews with my banker and my financial advisor. 6) Plan for Fun. Not planning for fun is the reason many 'already successful' businesses fail. I always say that when you are in business for yourself you can work half-days, any 12 hours of the day you want. Long hours result in early burn out. Burn out is a real disaster, especially for an artist because their creativity goes away. I plan for fun by rewarding myself with a trip, seminar or throwing a big party like the GOW. Just knowing that your business is rewarding you is all the more enjoyable. Buying extra tools if fun but it doesn't get you away from the routine. Fun keeps your business fresh, your creativity fresh and your customers happy. When I left my electrical engineering job I promised my wife that I wouldn't make the family sacrifice, that I would maintain the same level of income, which I did. What made me confident was that I already had grown a successful part-time business with a large enough customer base and backlog to go full time. The business needed to go full time right away because the job I had in house was over $50K and had a deadline for an open house that was fast approaching. It was a happy but also a scary time. Over the years to maintain my goal of six figures or almost six figures and not work so hard I used my venture capital to invest in stock, bonds and commercial real estate. My financial advisor played a key role in my early retirement. To answer your question, I was a serious professional business man who happened to do carving as a business. I limited my teaching to no more than 10% of my time which was less than 5% of gross income. Companies came with offers to endorse or sell tools but I always considered that as taking away from my carving time. Retirement for me means shutting down the business. This also means that I can shift my thinking of where I thought of myself as first a business man and second an artist to where I can play as an all-the-time artist at carving, drawing, working with clay or writing and not worry about the P&L statement. I can take on jobs like the one I have now, working on a large 5-foot Last Supper for a new church altar. I will be doing the carving for their pulpit and the Stations Of The Cross over the next year or so. They just broke ground on the church so I have time and don't have to worry about making wages. I owe my thanks to God and good business planning. By now I've put everyone to sleep so I will leave quietly. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Kelley" To: "Woodcarver List" Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 9:46 PM Subject: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > Here's a question for those who carve with the intent of selling - do you > have a formal business plan? > > If you respond, please tell us if you are: > A). A professional carver (earn all or most income from carving) > B). A semi-pro (earn less than 50% from carving) > C) A serious hobby carver who sells the occasional piece. > > If you teach in addition to carving, please include that info as well. > > Carve On > > > Matt Kelley > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > From thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com Fri Mar 27 13:23:27 2009 From: thewoodcraftshop at mchsi.com (Larry Yudis) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:23:27 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? In-Reply-To: <8CE06C6F8BE642E396ADADDFA736882E@Joe> Message-ID: <20090327172335.1E225E9D39@mailwash34.pair.com> >>>>>>>>>I owe my thanks to God and good business planning. It's good to see you've got your priorities straight! :o) Lil' Joe ... you are never boring ... a bit long-winded at times, but never boring. Thanks, once again, for your astute observations on a subject that needs addressing. BIG DOG -----Original Message----- From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Joe Dillett Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 11:36 AM To: [Woodcarver] Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Hi Matt, You've asked an excellent question about business planning. I don't want to bore anyone but I feel this needs a long answer. Please hit the delete if I get annoying. I came from a small business background, my father owning a small plumbing business. Out of my 6 siblings 5 made there living in their own businesses from plumbing, to construction as well as in the arts (music). My sister who taught music out of her home had no reason to write her business plan down because she always had a clear focus to direct her very successful business. I, on the other hand, have always had a need to write out a business plan to keep my focus, maintain discipline and structure. If I didn't I had a tendency to head off in too many directions resulting in being very unproductive. My first business as a commercial artist failed for several reasons, primarily the lack of business planning. I became a strong believer in the need for a business plan in my woodcarving business. That was the key to my success for the 38 years in business with about half of it being full time. I retired from the Board Of Directors of SEA (Self Employment in the Arts) as of January 2008, when I also retired and closed the business side of my carving. I was on the board of SEA since it was founded by North Central College. SEA has expanded from Illinois to all over the country teaching artists how to run a successful business and helping them stay in business. My specialty was teaching and consulting on the Business Plan. I feel that every business needs a plan. Not all plans need to be written down but I encourage a written plan. One size doesn't fit all. Every business must take into consideration the type of business but most importantly the type of individual running the business. The elements of my Business Plan were: 1) Mission Statement. A simple sentence of why I am in business. This is most important because it is the rudder that keeps the business on track. Hardly a week went by that I didn't focus on my mission to see if it was still valid and to keep me on track. Just a simple "Why am I doing this?" statement. 2) Goals. What would I like to accomplish by what date. I make one year, two year and long term, challenging but achievable business goals. These are goals of things that I really want to accomplish in my business and very willing to work hard towards achieving them. I also include a wish-list of goals that may or may not be business related, such as exotic vacations. I keep these goals close at hand so I can read and reflect on them often. It is also important when a goal is achieve that it is followed by a celebration, especially nice with the family. 3) Budget. What are my total resources available? Cash flow and credit line is only one portion of the budget. I plan for Capital expenditures and other major expenditures by calculating an ROI (Return On Investment in two years or less). Fixed expenses not only include utilities, insurance, taxes, FICA, but donations to charity. My variable expenses include advertising, show expenses, travel, small tools and supplies. Material includes consumables like wood, finishes, etc. One of the most important items in the budget is to put a small percentage of gross sales away for retirement and another small percentage for venture capital. 4) Business Operations. This defined how I was to run my business within my budget. A major portion is marketing. This is the area that many people fail. Much of marketing is trial and error, finding out what works for you and what you are comfortable doing. Marketing doesn't begin with looking for places to sell your work. It begins with looking at your work, the stuff you are passionate about making, and finding out how to put that same passion and creativity into marketing it at a price you deserve to get for it. My business operations include looking professional to the public, especially customers and potential customers. Remember that when you're in business you are not your own boss, you've got hundreds of bosses. I found that I could get much higher prices if I looked professional. To look professional I used professional looking quotes, drawings and regular updates on the progress including photos by email, invoices and accurate record keeping (all being made very easy with computers). Doing good work on time at a fair price is only half of the reason that I have no dissatisfied customers in the past 38 years. The other half being good communications and better value then they expected. I always made the customer feel like they were getting more then what was originally agreed upon, which was always planed for when I took the order. Business operation includes the discipline to budget time, make sure calls are returned promptly, put in a good days work even if the chisels are not speaking to you, make quick accurate quotes and taking the time to make every customer feel that they are special. 5) Review the Business Plan and update it regularly. Many times the investment is made to create a business plan but not followed. I was president of a fine art school (volunteer position) where we invested much time in updating our business plan, especially marketing, to qualify for a 501C charity organization. After we qualified they had little interest in following the plan. When I saw they were content to struggle from grant to grant without changing I resigned. When you make a new business plan there are many areas that are not real. To make the business plan work you must go back revising the plan to make those areas real and profitable. The only way to fix it is with regular reviews. There are times that you want to take your business in a whole new direction. That begins with a new Mission Statement, new goals and everything else. If you find that your business has changed but you've not changed your plan you are flying blind with no plan at all. I did quarterly reviews and annual reviews with my banker and my financial advisor. 6) Plan for Fun. Not planning for fun is the reason many 'already successful' businesses fail. I always say that when you are in business for yourself you can work half-days, any 12 hours of the day you want. Long hours result in early burn out. Burn out is a real disaster, especially for an artist because their creativity goes away. I plan for fun by rewarding myself with a trip, seminar or throwing a big party like the GOW. Just knowing that your business is rewarding you is all the more enjoyable. Buying extra tools if fun but it doesn't get you away from the routine. Fun keeps your business fresh, your creativity fresh and your customers happy. When I left my electrical engineering job I promised my wife that I wouldn't make the family sacrifice, that I would maintain the same level of income, which I did. What made me confident was that I already had grown a successful part-time business with a large enough customer base and backlog to go full time. The business needed to go full time right away because the job I had in house was over $50K and had a deadline for an open house that was fast approaching. It was a happy but also a scary time. Over the years to maintain my goal of six figures or almost six figures and not work so hard I used my venture capital to invest in stock, bonds and commercial real estate. My financial advisor played a key role in my early retirement. To answer your question, I was a serious professional business man who happened to do carving as a business. I limited my teaching to no more than 10% of my time which was less than 5% of gross income. Companies came with offers to endorse or sell tools but I always considered that as taking away from my carving time. Retirement for me means shutting down the business. This also means that I can shift my thinking of where I thought of myself as first a business man and second an artist to where I can play as an all-the-time artist at carving, drawing, working with clay or writing and not worry about the P&L statement. I can take on jobs like the one I have now, working on a large 5-foot Last Supper for a new church altar. I will be doing the carving for their pulpit and the Stations Of The Cross over the next year or so. They just broke ground on the church so I have time and don't have to worry about making wages. I owe my thanks to God and good business planning. By now I've put everyone to sleep so I will leave quietly. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Kelley" To: "Woodcarver List" Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 9:46 PM Subject: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > Here's a question for those who carve with the intent of selling - do you > have a formal business plan? > > If you respond, please tell us if you are: > A). A professional carver (earn all or most income from carving) > B). A semi-pro (earn less than 50% from carving) > C) A serious hobby carver who sells the occasional piece. > > If you teach in addition to carving, please include that info as well. > > Carve On > > > Matt Kelley > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From ron at carvedbyramsey.com Fri Mar 27 13:49:16 2009 From: ron at carvedbyramsey.com (Ramsey) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:49:16 -0700 Subject: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? Message-ID: I am a professional carver (earn all or most income from carving). I don't have a written business plan but have always followed a plan that I learned when I apprenticed at a professional woodcarving studio. I have modified it over the years through trial and error. Some of you may know, from my other posts, that I tend to go my own way and find unconventional ways to approach problems. I use trial and error as my best learning tool. What works for one woodcarver, working in a particular style, in a certain geographic area may not work for others. One thing to keep in mind when selling or pricing your work is where the piece will end up. If it will be tucked away in someone's home, out of sight, you may want to charge a higher price than you would charge for a piece that would be displayed in a public place. This is not gouging the private owner; it's giving a discount to the person displaying it in public for marketing purposes. Word of mouth is one of the best marketing tools that works for me. -- Ron Ramsey http://www.carvedbyramsey.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ron-Ramsey-Woodcarversculptor/55391262469?v=wall&viewas=1186712583 Be sure to look at the incredible nature inspired art jewelry hand fabricated by my wife, Karen Olsen Ramsey. It's worth the time to take a look! http://www.artjeweler.com http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/pages/Karen-Olsen-Ramsey-art-jeweler/47697155027?ref=ts From redcougar at mchsi.com Fri Mar 27 14:11:12 2009 From: redcougar at mchsi.com (larry) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:11:12 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? In-Reply-To: <8CE06C6F8BE642E396ADADDFA736882E@Joe> References: <8CE06C6F8BE642E396ADADDFA736882E@Joe> Message-ID: <49CD16C0.1060105@mchsi.com> Joe Dillett wrote: > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' > Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > Hi Matt, > > > > You've asked an excellent question about business planning. I don't > want to bore anyone but I feel this needs a long answer. Please hit > the delete if I get annoying. Thank You for the long winded answer. I have filed this answer with other very important documents such as, the copyright issue. Thanks again North Carolina Larry From snordha1 at nycap.rr.com Fri Mar 27 14:19:31 2009 From: snordha1 at nycap.rr.com (Steve Nordhauser) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:19:31 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49CD18B3.8000401@nycap.rr.com> I'm helping my girlfriend start a craft business - I agreed that I would focus on the business for a year before selling my own work. I wouldn't consider starting something without a rough business plan unless you intend to keep it as a hobby and don't care about profits and cost. By business plan I mean an outline that says: -What I want to sell - How much I want to sell it for - Who I want to buy it - How I will sell it - galleries, shows, internet and what the costs are - Cost analysis - (selling price - materials-sales costs-overhead) /hours = hourly income - startup costs - time commitment - what I hope to accomplish in 1 year, 3 years - list of risks (licensing issues, linked to current fashion, competition) - possible product variations to increase market and spread price range - display and booth equipment requirements - jury photographs - either take a class (our local craft center had one) or hire someone. These are as important as a sharp knife! - how will the bookkeeping be done? - business format (sole proprietorship, partnership) - sales tax collection - DBA, trademarking - bank account - taking credit cards - web site, brochure, business cards, artist's statement - insurance Paste that into Word, write a minimum of one sentence on each and try to be honest. Goals of quitting your job in one year sound great but covering costs is more likely. It doesn't have to be formal, but you need to know these answers. I'm finding that Microsoft OneNote is a great tool for keeping an electronic journal for a startup business. I'm learning quickbooks, talked to my accountant, filed the DBA, have a bank account. I built the first display rack and we did our first show. We have our tax ID number for NY. I'm learning that small craft fairs cost $25-$50 to get in, the large ones can be $200-$800. Mall shows look interesting. I still need to buy a canopy, folding tables and arrange credit cards. My advice is get someone involved who will do a lot of the business side if you are not of that ilk. Steve Nordhauser "An idea is like a caged bird. If you want to find out what it is, toss it high into the air. If it soars, it is an eagle. If it plummets to the ground, it is a turkey." -Me From jdillett at thecarvingshop.net Fri Mar 27 14:57:53 2009 From: jdillett at thecarvingshop.net (Joe Dillett) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:57:53 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? References: <8CE06C6F8BE642E396ADADDFA736882E@Joe> <49CD16C0.1060105@mchsi.com> Message-ID: Glad to be of service Larry from North Carolina. Anytime I can be of assistance or bounce ideas off please feel free to email or call. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "larry" To: "[Woodcarver]" Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > Joe Dillett wrote: >> Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' >> Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving >> >> >> Hi Matt, >> >> >> >> You've asked an excellent question about business planning. I don't want >> to bore anyone but I feel this needs a long answer. Please hit the delete >> if I get annoying. > Thank You for the long winded answer. I have filed this answer with other > very important documents such as, the copyright issue. Thanks again > North Carolina Larry > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > From sdcox at aernet.ca Fri Mar 27 15:08:25 2009 From: sdcox at aernet.ca (Shawn Cox) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:08:25 -0300 Subject: [Woodcarver] . Re: DeWalt Scroll Saws In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3F9B5127D89B4E369F5C3C64D42AD8EC@Cox> Great tip Ron! Thank you..........Shawn -----Original Message----- From: woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com [mailto:woodcarver-bounces at carverscompanion.com] On Behalf Of Ramsey Sent: March-25-09 2:43 PM To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com Subject: [Woodcarver] . Re: DeWalt Scroll Saws Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving I bought a DeWalt band saw for a commission I had to carve a piano for the Baldwin Piano Co. It worked great, but the cumbersome process of disconnecting the blade for each cutout was too time consuming. I switched to a 1/8" straight carbide bit in my router. The cutting was probably 5 to 10 times faster and the finish much smoother. Here's a link to a photo of the carving I cut with my router: http://www.carvedbyramsey.com/MusicDesk_.jpg I sold my scroll saw and now use either the band saw or router. By the way, the Dewalt will not take standard sanding strips. I ordered a number of custom made sanding strips to fit the DeWalt. If anyone is interested in them, contact me off list. -- Ron Ramsey http://www.carvedbyramsey.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ron-Ramsey-Woodcarversculptor/55391262469?v=wa ll&viewas=1186712583 Be sure to look at the incredible nature inspired art jewelry hand fabricated by my wife, Karen Olsen Ramsey. It's worth the time to take a look! http://www.artjeweler.com http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/pages/Karen-Olsen-Ramsey-art-jeweler/4769 7155027?ref=ts _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From jdillett at thecarvingshop.net Fri Mar 27 15:10:51 2009 From: jdillett at thecarvingshop.net (Joe Dillett) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:10:51 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? References: <49CD18B3.8000401@nycap.rr.com> Message-ID: <9322B7B9E532477CBF58F8920D068FA0@Joe> Some info on taking Credit Cards. If you are like me and only take a few credit card transactions a year I recommend Retriever (877 479 6649). It costs me $5 per month and I get free check protection (which normally costs $5 per month). The percent is a tiny bit more per transaction but for the few credit cards I do this plan is perfect for me. They have the old knuckle buster machine and you have to call their 24-7 toll free line if you need to check to make sure it will clear. The check protection covers all checks written to me, business, rent and etc. for no fees. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nordhauser" To: Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > I'm helping my girlfriend start a craft business - I agreed that I would > focus on the business for a year before selling my own work. I wouldn't > consider starting something without a rough business plan unless you > intend to keep it as a hobby and don't care about profits and cost. > By business plan I mean an outline that says: > > -What I want to sell > - How much I want to sell it for > - Who I want to buy it > - How I will sell it - galleries, shows, internet and what the costs are > - Cost analysis - (selling price - materials-sales costs-overhead) /hours > = hourly income > - startup costs > - time commitment > - what I hope to accomplish in 1 year, 3 years > - list of risks (licensing issues, linked to current fashion, competition) > - possible product variations to increase market and spread price range > - display and booth equipment requirements > - jury photographs - either take a class (our local craft center had one) > or hire someone. These are as important as a sharp knife! > > - how will the bookkeeping be done? > - business format (sole proprietorship, partnership) > - sales tax collection > - DBA, trademarking > - bank account > - taking credit cards > - web site, brochure, business cards, artist's statement > - insurance > > Paste that into Word, write a minimum of one sentence on each and try to > be honest. Goals of quitting your job in one year sound great but covering > costs is more likely. > It doesn't have to be formal, but you need to know these answers. > > I'm finding that Microsoft OneNote is a great tool for keeping an > electronic journal for a startup business. > I'm learning quickbooks, talked to my accountant, filed the DBA, have a > bank account. I built the first display rack and we did our first show. > We have our tax ID number for NY. > I'm learning that small craft fairs cost $25-$50 to get in, the large ones > can be $200-$800. > Mall shows look interesting. > I still need to buy a canopy, folding tables and arrange credit cards. > > My advice is get someone involved who will do a lot of the business side > if you are not of that ilk. > Steve Nordhauser > "An idea is like a caged bird. If you want to find out what it is, toss > it high into the air. If it soars, it is an eagle. If it plummets to the > ground, it is a turkey." -Me > > > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > From carve at whillock.com Fri Mar 27 15:46:58 2009 From: carve at whillock.com (Ivan Whillock) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:46:58 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? References: <20090327172335.1E225E9D39@mailwash34.pair.com> Message-ID: <3D5951A1675D4A37B63D528659F73ACE@ome> Back in 1978 I bought a book by Diane Cochrane called "This Business of Art." It was very helpful in helping me move away from the idealistic "artist in his garret" way of thinking into the real world. In the "real world" the people who can fine you put you in jail for tax evasion don't really care if you just created the greatest masterpiece of our age. A business plan can take many forms, from a lengthy, detailed study to a general outline. What works for one doesn't necessarily work for another. However, I do suggest that anyone who would like to pursue art as a profession purchase a book on the business of art. Not every chapter will relate to you, but discussions of contracts, copyrights, commission agreements, working with a dealer, insurance, income taxes, bookkeeping, even estate planning, can be very helpful. Ivan Whillock Studio 122 NE 1st Avenue Faribault, MN 55021 Visit my website at http://www.whillock.com Visit my Picture Trail album at http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=ivancarve From jdillett at thecarvingshop.net Fri Mar 27 16:34:12 2009 From: jdillett at thecarvingshop.net (Joe Dillett) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:34:12 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? References: <20090327172335.1E225E9D39@mailwash34.pair.com> <3D5951A1675D4A37B63D528659F73ACE@ome> Message-ID: Another great idea Ivan. Nice to hear from you with more helpful tips. We're planning to see you at Carv-Fest this year. Looking forward to another fun time. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ivan Whillock" To: "[Woodcarver]" Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > > > Back in 1978 I bought a book by Diane Cochrane called "This Business of > Art." It was very helpful in helping me move away from the idealistic > "artist in his garret" way of thinking into the real world. In the > "real > world" the people who can fine you put you in jail for tax evasion don't > really care if you just created the greatest masterpiece of our age. > > A business plan can take many forms, from a lengthy, detailed study to a > general outline. What works for one doesn't necessarily work for another. > However, I do suggest that anyone who would like to pursue art as a > profession purchase a book on the business of art. Not every chapter will > relate to you, but discussions of contracts, copyrights, commission > agreements, working with a dealer, insurance, income taxes, bookkeeping, > even estate > planning, can be very helpful. > > Ivan Whillock Studio > 122 NE 1st Avenue > Faribault, MN 55021 > Visit my website at > http://www.whillock.com > Visit my Picture Trail album at > http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=ivancarve > > > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > From martin_leenhouts at yahoo.com Fri Mar 27 16:58:48 2009 From: martin_leenhouts at yahoo.com (Martin Leenhouts) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:58:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? Message-ID: <573559.92520.qm@web52411.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hello all, I've had other chip carvers?ask me, "How do you price your carvings?" For?commissioned work I price each?piece by the square inch. I have a square inch?sliding scale depending on the complexity of the carving. I add this price to the cost of the object being carved and?bingo...well, maybe not bingo...but it works for me. I know my prices are on target when customers say, "That's about what I would have guessed." ? Do you have a formal business plan? ? If you respond, please tell us if you are: A). A professional carver (earn all or most income from carving) B). A semi-pro (earn less than 50% from carving) C) A serious hobby carver who sells the occasional piece. If you teach in addition to carving, please include that info as well. ? --- On Thu, 3/26/09, TheLeMarHerd at comcast.net wrote: From: TheLeMarHerd at comcast.net Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? To: "[Woodcarver]" Date: Thursday, March 26, 2009, 10:16 PM -----Inline Attachment Follows----- Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving I would be interested in the answer to this also.? I had a few pieces in a wine and art show and (had no plans in trying to sell anything then but now...) and a few people came up and wanted to buy my carvings and woodburnings.? I have no idea on where to start to try and price and sell my pieces. ? Missi - N - Critters ? Whatever you do in life, enjoy the ride. ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Kelley To: Woodcarver List Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 10:46 PM Subject: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Here's a question for those who carve with the intent of selling - do? you have a formal business plan? If you respond, please tell us if you are: A). A professional carver (earn all or most income from carving) B). A semi-pro (earn less than 50% from carving) C) A serious hobby carver who sells the occasional piece. If you teach in addition to carving, please include that info as well. Carve On Matt Kelley _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin_leenhouts at yahoo.com Fri Mar 27 16:58:49 2009 From: martin_leenhouts at yahoo.com (Martin Leenhouts) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:58:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? Message-ID: <206322.83671.qm@web52407.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hello all, I've had other chip carvers?ask me, "How do you price your carvings?" For?commissioned work I price each?piece by the square inch. I have a square inch?sliding scale depending on the complexity of the carving. I add this price to the cost of the object being carved and?bingo...well, maybe not bingo...but it works for me. I know my prices are on target when customers say, "That's about what I would have guessed." ? Do you have a formal business plan? ???? If you respond, please tell us if you are: A). A professional carver (earn all or most income from carving) B). A semi-pro (earn less than 50% from carving) C) A serious hobby carver who sells the occasional piece. If you teach in addition to carving, please include that info as well. ? --- On Thu, 3/26/09, TheLeMarHerd at comcast.net wrote: From: TheLeMarHerd at comcast.net Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? To: "[Woodcarver]" Date: Thursday, March 26, 2009, 10:16 PM -----Inline Attachment Follows----- Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving I would be interested in the answer to this also.? I had a few pieces in a wine and art show and (had no plans in trying to sell anything then but now...) and a few people came up and wanted to buy my carvings and woodburnings.? I have no idea on where to start to try and price and sell my pieces. ? Missi - N - Critters ? Whatever you do in life, enjoy the ride. ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Kelley To: Woodcarver List Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 10:46 PM Subject: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Here's a question for those who carve with the intent of selling - do? you have a formal business plan? If you respond, please tell us if you are: A). A professional carver (earn all or most income from carving) B). A semi-pro (earn less than 50% from carving) C) A serious hobby carver who sells the occasional piece. If you teach in addition to carving, please include that info as well. Carve On Matt Kelley _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin_leenhouts at yahoo.com Fri Mar 27 16:58:49 2009 From: martin_leenhouts at yahoo.com (Martin Leenhouts) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:58:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? Message-ID: <839531.70478.qm@web52402.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hello all, I've had other chip carvers?ask me, "How do you price your carvings?" For?commissioned work I price each?piece by the square inch. I have a square inch?sliding scale depending on the complexity of the carving. I add this price to the cost of the object being carved and?bingo...well, maybe not bingo...but it works for me. I know my prices are on target when customers say, "That's about what I would have guessed." ? Do you have a formal business plan? ???? It's formal If you respond, please tell us if you are: A). A professional carver (earn all or most income from carving) B). A semi-pro (earn less than 50% from carving) C) A serious hobby carver who sells the occasional piece. If you teach in addition to carving, please include that info as well. ? --- On Thu, 3/26/09, TheLeMarHerd at comcast.net wrote: From: TheLeMarHerd at comcast.net Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? To: "[Woodcarver]" Date: Thursday, March 26, 2009, 10:16 PM -----Inline Attachment Follows----- Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving I would be interested in the answer to this also.? I had a few pieces in a wine and art show and (had no plans in trying to sell anything then but now...) and a few people came up and wanted to buy my carvings and woodburnings.? I have no idea on where to start to try and price and sell my pieces. ? Missi - N - Critters ? Whatever you do in life, enjoy the ride. ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Kelley To: Woodcarver List Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 10:46 PM Subject: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Here's a question for those who carve with the intent of selling - do? you have a formal business plan? If you respond, please tell us if you are: A). A professional carver (earn all or most income from carving) B). A semi-pro (earn less than 50% from carving) C) A serious hobby carver who sells the occasional piece. If you teach in addition to carving, please include that info as well. Carve On Matt Kelley _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin_leenhouts at yahoo.com Fri Mar 27 16:58:50 2009 From: martin_leenhouts at yahoo.com (Martin Leenhouts) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:58:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? Message-ID: <344306.93288.qm@web52411.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hello all, I've had other chip carvers?ask me, "How do you price your carvings?" For?commissioned work I price each?piece by the square inch. I have a square inch?sliding scale depending on the complexity of the carving. I add this price to the cost of the object being carved and?bingo...well, maybe not bingo...but it works for me. I know my prices are on target when customers say, "That's about what I would have guessed." ? Do you have a formal business plan? ???? It's formal in If you respond, please tell us if you are: A). A professional carver (earn all or most income from carving) B). A semi-pro (earn less than 50% from carving) C) A serious hobby carver who sells the occasional piece. If you teach in addition to carving, please include that info as well. ? --- On Thu, 3/26/09, TheLeMarHerd at comcast.net wrote: From: TheLeMarHerd at comcast.net Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? To: "[Woodcarver]" Date: Thursday, March 26, 2009, 10:16 PM -----Inline Attachment Follows----- Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving I would be interested in the answer to this also.? I had a few pieces in a wine and art show and (had no plans in trying to sell anything then but now...) and a few people came up and wanted to buy my carvings and woodburnings.? I have no idea on where to start to try and price and sell my pieces. ? Missi - N - Critters ? Whatever you do in life, enjoy the ride. ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Kelley To: Woodcarver List Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 10:46 PM Subject: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Here's a question for those who carve with the intent of selling - do? you have a formal business plan? If you respond, please tell us if you are: A). A professional carver (earn all or most income from carving) B). A semi-pro (earn less than 50% from carving) C) A serious hobby carver who sells the occasional piece. If you teach in addition to carving, please include that info as well. Carve On Matt Kelley _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin_leenhouts at yahoo.com Fri Mar 27 16:58:50 2009 From: martin_leenhouts at yahoo.com (Martin Leenhouts) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:58:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? Message-ID: <999328.84494.qm@web52401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hello all, I've had other chip carvers?ask me, "How do you price your carvings?" For?commissioned work I price each?piece by the square inch. I have a square inch?sliding scale depending on the complexity of the carving. I add this price to the cost of the object being carved and?bingo...well, maybe not bingo...but it works for me. I know my prices are on target when customers say, "That's about what I would have guessed." ? Do you have a formal business plan? ???? It's formal in my If you respond, please tell us if you are: A). A professional carver (earn all or most income from carving) B). A semi-pro (earn less than 50% from carving) C) A serious hobby carver who sells the occasional piece. If you teach in addition to carving, please include that info as well. ? --- On Thu, 3/26/09, TheLeMarHerd at comcast.net wrote: From: TheLeMarHerd at comcast.net Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? To: "[Woodcarver]" Date: Thursday, March 26, 2009, 10:16 PM -----Inline Attachment Follows----- Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving I would be interested in the answer to this also.? I had a few pieces in a wine and art show and (had no plans in trying to sell anything then but now...) and a few people came up and wanted to buy my carvings and woodburnings.? I have no idea on where to start to try and price and sell my pieces. ? Missi - N - Critters ? Whatever you do in life, enjoy the ride. ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Kelley To: Woodcarver List Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 10:46 PM Subject: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Here's a question for those who carve with the intent of selling - do? you have a formal business plan? If you respond, please tell us if you are: A). A professional carver (earn all or most income from carving) B). A semi-pro (earn less than 50% from carving) C) A serious hobby carver who sells the occasional piece. If you teach in addition to carving, please include that info as well. Carve On Matt Kelley _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin_leenhouts at yahoo.com Fri Mar 27 16:58:53 2009 From: martin_leenhouts at yahoo.com (Martin Leenhouts) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? Message-ID: <416187.83984.qm@web52412.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hello all, I've had other chip carvers?ask me, "How do you price your carvings?" For?commissioned work I price each?piece by the square inch. I have a square inch?sliding scale depending on the complexity of the carving. I add this price to the cost of the object being carved and?bingo...well, maybe not bingo...but it works for me. I know my prices are on target when customers say, "That's about what I would have guessed." ? Do you have a formal business plan? ???? It's formal in my mind If you respond, please tell us if you are: A). A professional carver (earn all or most income from carving) B). A semi-pro (earn less than 50% from carving) C) A serious hobby carver who sells the occasional piece. If you teach in addition to carving, please include that info as well. ? --- On Thu, 3/26/09, TheLeMarHerd at comcast.net wrote: From: TheLeMarHerd at comcast.net Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? To: "[Woodcarver]" Date: Thursday, March 26, 2009, 10:16 PM -----Inline Attachment Follows----- Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving I would be interested in the answer to this also.? I had a few pieces in a wine and art show and (had no plans in trying to sell anything then but now...) and a few people came up and wanted to buy my carvings and woodburnings.? I have no idea on where to start to try and price and sell my pieces. ? Missi - N - Critters ? Whatever you do in life, enjoy the ride. ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Kelley To: Woodcarver List Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 10:46 PM Subject: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Here's a question for those who carve with the intent of selling - do? you have a formal business plan? If you respond, please tell us if you are: A). A professional carver (earn all or most income from carving) B). A semi-pro (earn less than 50% from carving) C) A serious hobby carver who sells the occasional piece. If you teach in addition to carving, please include that info as well. Carve On Matt Kelley _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Woodcarver mailing list Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Linehan718 at aol.com Fri Mar 27 17:29:33 2009 From: Linehan718 at aol.com (Linehan718 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:29:33 EDT Subject: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? Message-ID: Hey, would you hit that thing, I think the record is skipping. Maura _www.Carvinginnyc.com_ (http://www.carvinginnyc.com/) **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make meals for Under $10. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000002) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdkc1982 at gmail.com Fri Mar 27 18:03:10 2009 From: jdkc1982 at gmail.com (Casey Willson) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:03:10 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Business plan etc Woodcarver Digest, Vol 1653, Issue 2 Message-ID: *I've been reading some very interesting and enlightening answers to the Questions below. No, I was NOT bored! There is a lot of business savvy represented in the group of artists. My answers are below the quote. **On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 3:58 PM, wrote: * *Matt asked: If you respond, please tell us if you are: A). A professional carver (earn all or most income from carving) B). A semi-pro (earn less than 50% from carving) C) A serious hobby carver who sells the occasional piece.* *I am or was a full charge bookkeeper with a fair amount of business training. That said, I've let my enthusiasm overcome my intelligence and went bust in two separate businesses over the years-hubby went right along with me! Now, disabled and retired with no income except HIS disability income, I create as a hobby only. It may become a real business albeit a small one. I sell or barter about 75% of what I make and we've put a small store building (8X12) on our small acreage in a tourist area. My "business plan" such as it is, is in my head. I know there are a LOT of beaders in the area and I know that the closest place other than on-line to buy beads is about 40 miles away. I sorted out my own overstock and invested about $500 in bulk buys of things that are not easily located but are in demand. I put in my own creations in beads and stone and now wood. My costs are nil, my advertising consists of signs where the highway comes within 1/2 mile of my house. So far I've done a tiny bit of business but tourist season has yet to begin. I'm keeping VERY busy with barter work at this point and trying to get some "impulse buy" carvings ahead. At this point my pricing is in a state of developement. I've been getting from $40 for a simple walking stick to $80 for one with more detail. Since I'm still learning I figure my "per hour" is under $2. I have to redo a lot and it takes me longer than it should. Hubby is a jeweler and stone carver. He prices at $20 an hour plus materials. But he knows what he's doing at each step. Hope this is what you're looking for. Its information and I would welcome input myself. Casey * -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carve at whillock.com Fri Mar 27 20:14:03 2009 From: carve at whillock.com (Ivan Whillock) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:14:03 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? References: <20090327172335.1E225E9D39@mailwash34.pair.com><3D5951A1675D4A37B63D528659F73ACE@ome> Message-ID: <7820D7F9129C4975929D9DE4DCE18CFC@ome> Thanks, Joe. Your handsome visage is on the carv-fest.com website, being interviewed by Melanie. Go to http://www.woodcarverswarehouse.com/_e/Class_by_Instructor/product/Dillett/Joe_Dillett.htm The topic of pricing is complex. Because artistic value is in the eye of the beholder, and many factors other than traditional "market forces" are at work, a hard and fast formula is difficult. Most carvers who want to "turn pro" do so with something of a track record: They've had some success in selling and thus want to pursue it full time. At that point it's a matter of doing the math. How much do you need to make to live on, what price do you have to get, what must your production be in order to do that, considering factors of all sorts, marketing, keeping an inventory, you're not going to sell everything you make, etc. For someone who simply wants to determine a value of a carving they've done, I suggest the purely subjective, not entirely tongue-in-cheek, "Don't insult me" rule. Imagine a buyer offers three dollars for your carving. You think to yourself, BUT NEVER SAY OUT LOUD, "don't insult me." Another offers six. Again, you THINK, "Don't insult me." The next offers 12, etc. At what price would you no longer be insulted? That's the minimum price you will take. Add a little "profit" say 20-30% and you have a price that you can accept. It also could be viewed as the "what's the least you will take?" rule. At what price point would you rather keep it than sell it? Add 20% or whatever to that, and determine that either way you win. You either get to keep your carving that you've determined is worth such and such to you, or you walk off with a reasonable amount of cash in exchange for it. Most artists don't inherit a price value for their work, they create it through exposure and marketing. For example, many people who see a small figure carving have only the $15 figurine at the souvenir stand as their value guide. Figure carvers then can either sell their works for $15, not sell at all, or work to establish a different public perception through displaying their art well and showing its value again and again. Ivan Whillock Studio 122 NE 1st Avenue Faribault, MN 55021 Visit my website at http://www.whillock.com Visit my Picture Trail album at http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=ivancarve -------------------------------------------------- From: "Joe Dillett" Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 3:34 PM To: "[Woodcarver]" Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > Another great idea Ivan. Nice to hear from you with more helpful tips. > > We're planning to see you at Carv-Fest this year. Looking forward to > another fun time. > > Joe Dillett > The Carving Shop > 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 > Somonauk, IL. 60552 > > (815) 498-9290 phone > (815) 498-9249 fax > http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] > http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] > http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett > ****************************************************************** > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ivan Whillock" > To: "[Woodcarver]" > Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 2:46 PM > Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? > > >> Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' >> Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving >> >> >> >> >> Back in 1978 I bought a book by Diane Cochrane called "This Business of >> Art." It was very helpful in helping me move away from the idealistic >> "artist in his garret" way of thinking into the real world. In the >> "real >> world" the people who can fine you put you in jail for tax evasion don't >> really care if you just created the greatest masterpiece of our age. >> >> A business plan can take many forms, from a lengthy, detailed study to a >> general outline. What works for one doesn't necessarily work for >> another. >> However, I do suggest that anyone who would like to pursue art as a >> profession purchase a book on the business of art. Not every chapter >> will >> relate to you, but discussions of contracts, copyrights, commission >> agreements, working with a dealer, insurance, income taxes, bookkeeping, >> even estate >> planning, can be very helpful. >> >> Ivan Whillock Studio >> 122 NE 1st Avenue >> Faribault, MN 55021 >> Visit my website at >> http://www.whillock.com >> Visit my Picture Trail album at >> http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=ivancarve >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Woodcarver mailing list >> Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver >> > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > From ron at carvedbyramsey.com Fri Mar 27 21:34:06 2009 From: ron at carvedbyramsey.com (Ramsey) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:34:06 -0700 Subject: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? Message-ID: Great response Joe! Much of what you wrote is what I have been doing in my plan but it was not so well defined. I think it will help me to be more precise and your model is a good starting point. Thank you! -- Ron Ramsey http://www.carvedbyramsey.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ron-Ramsey-Woodcarversculptor/55391262469?v=wall&viewas=1186712583 Be sure to look at the incredible nature inspired art jewelry hand fabricated by my wife, Karen Olsen Ramsey. It's worth the time to take a look! http://www.artjeweler.com http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/pages/Karen-Olsen-Ramsey-art-jeweler/47697155027?ref=ts From donpbk at yahoo.com Sat Mar 28 09:34:30 2009 From: donpbk at yahoo.com (Donna Menke) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:34:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? In-Reply-To: <7820D7F9129C4975929D9DE4DCE18CFC@ome> References: <20090327172335.1E225E9D39@mailwash34.pair.com><3D5951A1675D4A37B63D528659F73ACE@ome> <7820D7F9129C4975929D9DE4DCE18CFC@ome> Message-ID: <467929.25919.qm@web54307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Ivan, I think you said a mouthful there. The don't insult me and least you will take scenarios are a very good way to estimate price. By any other measure you lose sight of the intrinsic value of a piece. What I mean is that you can do two pieces that take the same amount of time, material, and effort- but one is to die for wonderful and the other is just OK. I use your technique most of the time. Donna Menke http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book ----- Original Message ---- > From: Ivan Whillock > To: [Woodcarver] > Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 7:14:03 PM > Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop > at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > Thanks, Joe. Your handsome visage is on the carv-fest.com website, being > interviewed by Melanie. Go to > http://www.woodcarverswarehouse.com/_e/Class_by_Instructor/product/Dillett/Joe_Dillett.htm > > The topic of pricing is complex. Because artistic value is in the eye of the > beholder, and many factors other than traditional "market forces" are at work, a > hard and fast formula is difficult. Most carvers who want to "turn pro" do so > with something of a track record: They've had some success in selling and thus > want to pursue it full time. At that point it's a matter of doing the math. > How much do you need to make to live on, what price do you have to get, what > must your production be in order to do that, considering factors of all sorts, > marketing, keeping an inventory, you're not going to sell everything you make, > etc. > > For someone who simply wants to determine a value of a carving they've done, I > suggest the purely subjective, not entirely tongue-in-cheek, "Don't insult me" > rule. Imagine a buyer offers three dollars for your carving. You think to > yourself, BUT NEVER SAY OUT LOUD, "don't insult me." Another offers six. Again, > you THINK, "Don't insult me." The next offers 12, etc. At what price would you > no longer be insulted? That's the minimum price you will take. Add a little > "profit" say 20-30% and you have a price that you can accept. It also could be > viewed as the "what's the least you will take?" rule. At what price point would > you rather keep it than sell it? Add 20% or whatever to that, and determine > that either way you win. You either get to keep your carving that you've > determined is worth such and such to you, or you walk off with a reasonable > amount of cash in exchange for it. > > Most artists don't inherit a price value for their work, they create it through > exposure and marketing. For example, many people who see a small figure carving > have only the $15 figurine at the souvenir stand as their value guide. Figure > carvers then can either sell their works for $15, not sell at all, or work to > establish a different public perception through displaying their art well and > showing its value again and again. > > > Ivan Whillock Studio > 122 NE 1st Avenue > Faribault, MN 55021 > Visit my website at > http://www.whillock.com > Visit my Picture Trail album at > http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=ivancarve > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Joe Dillett" > Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 3:34 PM > To: "[Woodcarver]" > Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? > > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > > > > Another great idea Ivan. Nice to hear from you with more helpful tips. > > > > We're planning to see you at Carv-Fest this year. Looking forward to another > fun time. > > > > Joe Dillett > > The Carving Shop > > 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 > > Somonauk, IL. 60552 > > > > (815) 498-9290 phone > > (815) 498-9249 fax > > http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] > > http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] > > http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett > > ****************************************************************** > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ivan Whillock" > > To: "[Woodcarver]" > > Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 2:46 PM > > Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? > > > > > >> Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Back in 1978 I bought a book by Diane Cochrane called "This Business of > >> Art." It was very helpful in helping me move away from the idealistic > >> "artist in his garret" way of thinking into the real world. In the "real > >> world" the people who can fine you put you in jail for tax evasion don't > >> really care if you just created the greatest masterpiece of our age. > >> > >> A business plan can take many forms, from a lengthy, detailed study to a > >> general outline. What works for one doesn't necessarily work for another. > >> However, I do suggest that anyone who would like to pursue art as a > >> profession purchase a book on the business of art. Not every chapter will > >> relate to you, but discussions of contracts, copyrights, commission > >> agreements, working with a dealer, insurance, income taxes, bookkeeping, even > estate > >> planning, can be very helpful. > >> > >> Ivan Whillock Studio > >> 122 NE 1st Avenue > >> Faribault, MN 55021 > >> Visit my website at > >> http://www.whillock.com > >> Visit my Picture Trail album at > >> http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=ivancarve > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Woodcarver mailing list > >> Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Woodcarver mailing list > > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From jdillett at thecarvingshop.net Sat Mar 28 09:36:36 2009 From: jdillett at thecarvingshop.net (Joe Dillett) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 08:36:36 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? References: <20090327172335.1E225E9D39@mailwash34.pair.com><3D5951A1675D4A37B63D528659F73ACE@ome> <7820D7F9129C4975929D9DE4DCE18CFC@ome> Message-ID: Hi Ivan, I took a peek at the website video and some good memories came back. Thanks. Also good insite into the pricing question. You've been there and done that. I hope your golf clubs treat you kindly this year. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ivan Whillock" To: "[Woodcarver]" Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > Thanks, Joe. Your handsome visage is on the carv-fest.com website, being > interviewed by Melanie. Go to > http://www.woodcarverswarehouse.com/_e/Class_by_Instructor/product/Dillett/Joe_Dillett.htm > > The topic of pricing is complex. Because artistic value is in the eye of > the beholder, and many factors other than traditional "market forces" are > at work, a hard and fast formula is difficult. Most carvers who want to > "turn pro" do so with something of a track record: They've had some > success in selling and thus want to pursue it full time. At that point > it's a matter of doing the math. How much do you need to make to live on, > what price do you have to get, what must your production be in order to do > that, considering factors of all sorts, marketing, keeping an inventory, > you're not going to sell everything you make, etc. > > For someone who simply wants to determine a value of a carving they've > done, I suggest the purely subjective, not entirely tongue-in-cheek, > "Don't insult me" rule. Imagine a buyer offers three dollars for your > carving. You think to yourself, BUT NEVER SAY OUT LOUD, "don't insult > me." Another offers six. Again, you THINK, "Don't insult me." The next > offers 12, etc. At what price would you no longer be insulted? That's > the minimum price you will take. Add a little "profit" say 20-30% and you > have a price that you can accept. It also could be viewed as the "what's > the least you will take?" rule. At what price point would you rather keep > it than sell it? Add 20% or whatever to that, and determine that either > way you win. You either get to keep your carving that you've determined > is worth such and such to you, or you walk off with a reasonable amount of > cash in exchange for it. > > Most artists don't inherit a price value for their work, they create it > through exposure and marketing. For example, many people who see a small > figure carving have only the $15 figurine at the souvenir stand as their > value guide. Figure carvers then can either sell their works for $15, not > sell at all, or work to establish a different public perception through > displaying their art well and showing its value again and again. > > > Ivan Whillock Studio > 122 NE 1st Avenue > Faribault, MN 55021 > Visit my website at > http://www.whillock.com > Visit my Picture Trail album at > http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=ivancarve > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Joe Dillett" > Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 3:34 PM > To: "[Woodcarver]" > Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? > >> Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' >> Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving >> >> >> Another great idea Ivan. Nice to hear from you with more helpful tips. >> >> We're planning to see you at Carv-Fest this year. Looking forward to >> another fun time. >> >> Joe Dillett >> The Carving Shop >> 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 >> Somonauk, IL. 60552 >> >> (815) 498-9290 phone >> (815) 498-9249 fax >> http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] >> http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] >> http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett >> ****************************************************************** >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ivan Whillock" >> To: "[Woodcarver]" >> Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 2:46 PM >> Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Business Plans? >> >> >>> Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' >>> Campanion Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Back in 1978 I bought a book by Diane Cochrane called "This Business of >>> Art." It was very helpful in helping me move away from the idealistic >>> "artist in his garret" way of thinking into the real world. In the >>> "real >>> world" the people who can fine you put you in jail for tax evasion don't >>> really care if you just created the greatest masterpiece of our age. >>> >>> A business plan can take many forms, from a lengthy, detailed study to a >>> general outline. What works for one doesn't necessarily work for >>> another. >>> However, I do suggest that anyone who would like to pursue art as a >>> profession purchase a book on the business of art. Not every chapter >>> will >>> relate to you, but discussions of contracts, copyrights, commission >>> agreements, working with a dealer, insurance, income taxes, bookkeeping, >>> even estate >>> planning, can be very helpful. >>> >>> Ivan Whillock Studio >>> 122 NE 1st Avenue >>> Faribault, MN 55021 >>> Visit my website at >>> http://www.whillock.com >>> Visit my Picture Trail album at >>> http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=ivancarve >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Woodcarver mailing list >>> Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Woodcarver mailing list >> Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver >> > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver > From woodsignatures at bresnan.net Sat Mar 28 12:37:24 2009 From: woodsignatures at bresnan.net (Andre J) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:37:24 -0600 Subject: [Woodcarver] 5 minute bear - February 15, 2009 Message-ID: A while back there was a posting for a 5 minute owl, here are links for a 5 minute bear [image: YouTube] help center| e-mail options | report spam Your Latest Subscription Videos Here are the newest videos from each of your subscriptions. To change the subscriptions for which you receive updates, or to turn off updates, go to your email options . ------------------------------ New Videos from whittler0507 - Whittling A 5 Minute Bear (Conclusion) - Whittling The 5 Minute Bear Part 3 - Whittling The 5 Minute Bear Part 2 - Whittling The 5 Minute Bear part 1 ------------------------------ ? 2009 YouTube, LLC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From iowawoodcarver at gmail.com Sat Mar 28 19:30:53 2009 From: iowawoodcarver at gmail.com (Corey Hallagan) Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:30:53 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] 5 minute bear - February 15, 2009 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49d3fd9d0903281630t29da0f8bo230129250284abd3@mail.gmail.com> I love watching Gene carve and talk. He does a nice job on his videos. Corey On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Andre J wrote: > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion > Shop at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > > A while back there was a posting for a 5 minute owl, here are links for a 5 > minute bear > > [image: YouTube] help center| e-mail > options | report > spam Your > Latest Subscription Videos > > Here are the newest videos from each of your subscriptions. 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URL: From celtcarver at comcast.net Sun Mar 29 11:31:20 2009 From: celtcarver at comcast.net (Matt Kelley) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:31:20 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Opting Out of Monthly Password Reminders In-Reply-To: References: <20090327172335.1E225E9D39@mailwash34.pair.com><3D5951A1675D4A37B63D528659F73ACE@ome> <7820D7F9129C4975929D9DE4DCE18CFC@ome> Message-ID: <9F15AC24-622B-4DE1-8D54-BC59AD94F7EB@comcast.net> Good Morning Friends in Carving - The Woodcarver List is currently configured to send you a subscription reminder once a month, which includes your List password in plain text. Some members have expressed their concern about having passwords send in plain text. Using the list options page, you have the ability to individually stop the monthly reminder message. To opt out of the reminder, click the http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver link at the bottom of this message. Once you arrive at the Woodcarver List page, scroll down to the bottom of the page and click the "Unsubscribe or Edit Options" button. On the next page, enter your email address and password work. If you have forgotten your password, click the Password "Remind" button. After you log into the Options page, scroll down to the gray shaded section and look for "Get password reminder email for this list?" Click the "No" radio button, scroll to the bottom of the page, and click the "Submit My Changes" button. Once successfully completed, you will no longer receive the monthly subscription reminder message. Carve On! Matt *********************************************** Matt Kelley: Woodcarver, E-zine Editor, W3E Coordinator, List Owner Woodcarver Online Magazine, W3Exchange Programs, Carver Resource Files at: http://carverscompanion.com Carving Shirts & Gear at: http://carverscompanion.com/cclogostuff/logostuff.html CelticCarver WoodWorks: http://celtcarver.com From whitwood at fairpoint.net Sun Mar 29 12:45:24 2009 From: whitwood at fairpoint.net (Marcia Berkall) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 12:45:24 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Sunday Woodcarver Chat Message-ID: <20090329164525.B5158290356@smtp1.av-mx.com> Join in on the fun!!! For informative and fun REAL TIME conversations with a number of the carvers on "The List", come to the Woodcarver chats. We don't always talk about carving, but if anyone has a question or comment, we can get serious in a hurry. Get to know the people behind the names. And bring you carving questions with you!!! We meet on Wednesday nights at 9:30 PM Eastern and on Sundays at 4:30 PM Eastern. If you are NOT using an IRC chat program, I think you will like these simplified instructions!!! Just click on one of the links below...either will take you directly to #Woodcarverchat http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_williamslake.html?chan=#Woodcarverchat http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_stopover.html?chan=#woodcarverchat This may take a LONG time to load!!!!!!! Don't give up. When it finally does load, you will be asked to type in a nickname.....then click connect, and wait a little bit longer. The chat screen will open. Type something in the narrow horizontal space just below the chat screen and hit you enter key. Nothing to it! :) If you are using WebTV or still have trouble getting there, one of these links will work...we just save them as a last resort in case all other links don't work: http://63.79.14.90/cgi-bin/irc.cgi http://cobra-ip1.vipershells.com/cgi-bin/irc.cgi http://stopover.ky.us.starlink-irc.org/cgi-bin/irc.cgi (This one will have the fastest connection) Type in a nickname where it says"nickname"i Where is says, "channel", type in #woodcarverchat (don't forget the #). ******* If you are using an mIRC chat program: 1. Log onto your ISP. 2. Open mIRC. You should see a box "mIRC Options". If you don't then click on View then on "Options" Fill in the information there...you do NOT have to put in your real name or email address. For security purposes, make them up. Do put in the nickname you want and an alternative. 4. Click on the button with the sunburst icon, just to the right of the button that says, "Connect to Server". Where it says "IRC Network", scroll down until you see "Starlink-IRC" and highlight that so it shows in the window. There is also a Starlink network, so make sure that the one you select has the "IRC" after it. Now click on the arrow next to the IRC server window. That will list a number of Starlink-IRC servers....select one of them. The Starlink-IRC random server will automatically pick one of the servers for you, so you can use that one. With one of the Starlink-IRC servers in the window, click on "Connect to Server" If the Starlink Random Server is not in your mirc program you can add it: Click the "add" button. Where it says "Description" type "Starlink Random Server" Where it says "IRC Server" type IRC.STARLINK-IRC.ORG Port should be 6664,6665,6666,6667,6668,6669 (all of those with no spaces between them) and "Group" is Starlink-IRC 5. Once connected, you'll see lots of scrolling text. 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Click Now. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTQZtlyXGxUwaTwnM834wckwoJ01nXVILttgXHZw2nukz2Tc1BrB7a/_______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver From donpbk at yahoo.com Sun Mar 29 19:40:13 2009 From: donpbk at yahoo.com (Donna Menke) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:40:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Woodcarver] Opting Out of Monthly Password Reminders In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <701609.81094.qm@web54301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Me too. Donna Menke http://www.woodworks-by-donna.com Author: The Ultimate Band Saw Box Book ----- Original Message ---- > From: "Linehan718 at aol.com" > To: woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 1:03:42 PM > Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Opting Out of Monthly Password Reminders > > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop > at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > > In a message dated 3/29/2009 11:33:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > celtcarver at comcast.net writes: > Good Morning Friends in Carving - > > The Woodcarver List is currently configured to send you a subscription > reminder once a month, which includes your List password in plain > text. Some members have expressed their concern about having > passwords send in plain text. > > Funny but I didn't even know there were list passwords. I just read > the messages and reply. What am I missing out on here. Why would you need > a password. Thanks > > Maura > www.Carvinginnyc.com > > > ________________________________ > Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make meals for under $10. From celtcarver at comcast.net Sun Mar 29 21:01:55 2009 From: celtcarver at comcast.net (Matt Kelley) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:01:55 -0400 Subject: [Woodcarver] Unsubscribing from the List In-Reply-To: <4039.74.75.86.149.1238361274.squirrel@webmail.midmaine.com> References: <20090329.160736.27975.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com> <4039.74.75.86.149.1238361274.squirrel@webmail.midmaine.com> Message-ID: <14A29109-F3E9-4E07-BD76-8E610D996D92@comcast.net> Scout1969 - You may unsubscribe or temporarily hold mail by clicking on the link at the end of this message: http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver Once there, click on the "Unsubscribe or edit options" button. On the next page, just follow the directions. If you are unsuccessful in unsubscribing, please contact me off list. Matt *********************************************** Matt Kelley: Woodcarver, E-zine Editor, W3E Coordinator, List Owner Woodcarver Online Magazine, W3Exchange Programs, Carver Resource Files at: http://carverscompanion.com Carving Shirts & Gear at: http://carverscompanion.com/cclogostuff/logostuff.html CelticCarver WoodWorks: http://celtcarver.com From chrishoward307 at bellsouth.net Mon Mar 30 13:35:18 2009 From: chrishoward307 at bellsouth.net (chrishoward307 at bellsouth.net) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:35:18 +0000 Subject: [Woodcarver] Florida Round up In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <033020091735.24351.49D102D6000853FE00005F1F22230647029B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFC9CFCC0B9D0E9901089C079D080C@att.net> Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop > at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving Hi All, Jim Odea and Tony Erikison put on a great Round Up in Florida, not sure of the numbers but I am guessing 160-175 great weaather except for Sunday morning the Hillsborro Park has camping. Good to see old friends again. quiet a few from Canada here in the winter. Prayers go out to Doug and Donna Bean from Edmonton Donna has had some serious health issues and they are not able to travel. Just wanted to say thanks to Jim Christine Tony and Lucille for all their work. Chris Howard chrishowardstudio.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Woodcarver mailing list > Woodcarver at carverscompanion.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/woodcarver -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Pat psherman at suite224.net ************************************************* A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed." --Second Amendment, United States Constitution The original point and click interface was a Smith &wesson ************************************************* web pages: http://web.mac.com/dcvelbar/Site/For_Sale_page_2.html PHOTO ALBUMS: http://community.webshots.com/album/560407973VgrFfU http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/patshwigar/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdkc1982 at gmail.com Mon Mar 30 20:10:46 2009 From: jdkc1982 at gmail.com (Casey Willson) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:10:46 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] Sunday- Wednesday chats Message-ID: I can double recommend this chat! I started a couple of weeks ago and now it is on my schedule and I miss the chats as seldom as possilbe. Besides having a lot of fun I'm learning from some of the best. Even though I'm a new carver they treat me with affection and respect. Come on and join us! Casey > > 1. Sunday Woodcarver Chat (Marcia Berkall) > > > > Join in on the fun!!! > For informative and fun REAL TIME conversations with a number of the > carvers on "The List", come to the Woodcarver chats. We don't always > talk about carving, but if anyone has a question or comment, we can get > serious in a hurry. Get to know the people behind the names. And bring > you carving questions with you!!! > > We meet on Wednesday nights at 9:30 PM Eastern and on Sundays at 4:30 > PM Eastern. > > If you are NOT using an IRC chat program, I think you will like these > simplified instructions!!! Just click on one of the links below...either > will take you directly to #Woodcarverchat > > > http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_williamslake.html?chan=#Woodcarverchat > > http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_stopover.html?chan=#woodcarverchat > > > > > This may take a LONG time to load!!!!!!! Don't give up. When it finally > does load, you will be asked to type in a nickname.....then click connect, > and wait a little bit longer. The chat screen will open. Type something in > the narrow horizontal space just below the chat screen and hit you enter > key. Nothing to it! :) > > If you are using WebTV or still have trouble getting there, one of these > links will work...we just save them as a last resort in case all other links > don't work: > > http://63.79.14.90/cgi-bin/irc.cgi > > http://cobra-ip1.vipershells.com/cgi-bin/irc.cgi > > http://stopover.ky.us.starlink-irc.org/cgi-bin/irc.cgi (This one will > have the fastest connection) > > Type in a nickname where it says"nickname"i > Where is says, "channel", type in #woodcarverchat (don't forget the #). > > ******* > > If you are using an mIRC chat program: > 1. Log onto your ISP. > 2. Open mIRC. You should see a box "mIRC Options". If you don't then > click on View then on "Options" Fill in the information there...you do NOT > have to put in your real name or email address. For security purposes, make > them up. Do put in the nickname you want and an alternative. > 4. Click on the button with the sunburst icon, just to the right of the > button that says, "Connect to Server". Where it says "IRC Network", scroll > down until you see "Starlink-IRC" and highlight that so it shows in the > window. There is also a Starlink network, so make sure that the one you > select has the "IRC" after it. Now click on the arrow next to the IRC server > window. That will list a number of Starlink-IRC servers....select one of > them. The Starlink-IRC random server will automatically pick one of the > servers for you, so you can use that one. With one of the Starlink-IRC > servers in the window, click on > "Connect to Server" > > If the Starlink Random Server is not in your mirc program you can add it: > Click the "add" button. > Where it says "Description" type "Starlink Random Server" > Where it says "IRC Server" type IRC.STARLINK-IRC.ORG > Port should be 6664,6665,6666,6667,6668,6669 (all of those with no spaces > between them) > and "Group" is Starlink-IRC > 5. Once connected, you'll see lots of scrolling text. 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Matt Kelley, Listowner Sent from my iPhone From sogone89 at bellsouth.net Tue Mar 31 07:02:03 2009 From: sogone89 at bellsouth.net (sogone89 at bellsouth.net) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:02:03 +0000 Subject: [Woodcarver] Florida Round up In-Reply-To: <033020091735.24351.49D102D6000853FE00005F1F22230647029B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFC9CFCC0B9D0E9901089C079D080C@att.net> References: <033020091735.24351.49D102D6000853FE00005F1F22230647029B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFC9CFCC0B9D0E9901089C079D080C@att.net> Message-ID: <033120091102.21167.49D1F82A000BEDDC000052AF22218801869B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFC7C80A020109019C@att.net> Hey, Yes, it was a great round up, and my thanks to Jim, Christine, Tony, and Lucille also. Enjoyed your class, Chris. 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Then after drying, I use a paste wax. Painting is a weak point for me. This is a good topic for others to join in on their painting techniques. Chris Howard Chrishowardstudio.com -------------- Original message from "P Sherman" : -------------- > Friends in Carving: Please support our List - visit the Carvers' Campanion Shop > at http://cafepress.com/woodcarving > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdillett at thecarvingshop.net Tue Mar 31 10:49:02 2009 From: jdillett at thecarvingshop.net (Joe Dillett) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:49:02 -0500 Subject: [Woodcarver] (Pat) Finish on Basswood References: <033020091735.24351.49D102D6000853FE00005F1F22230647029B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFC9CFCC0B9D0E9901089C079D080C@att.net> <033120091325.27663.49D219CB000735E600006C0F22230647629B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFC9CFCC0B9D0E9901089C079D080C@att.net> Message-ID: <00F9318D08B245E4B8AC27FB68B3A987@Joe> Hi Pat, Hope all is well up your way. When putting color on Basswood I first use Minwax Pre Stain it "helps" keep from getting blochy spots with stain. I like to use oil paint and thin it down to a wash. Then after drying, I use a paste wax. Painting is a weak point for me. This is a good topic for others to join in on their painting techniques. Chris Howard Chrishowardstudio.com ************************************ Good answer Chris, and thanks for the report on the Florida Round Up. There are many ways to paint basswood to keep it from getting blotchy and get the effect you want. The method I use, when applying the first coat I mix artist-oil paint with the varnish, using the varnish as an extender to make the paint into a wash. The reason stains can get blotchy is most stains are low viscosity and soak deeper into endgrain making those areas darker. If you raise the viscosity by adding varnish the stain is suspended in the varnish and doesn't soak into the wood at different depths resulting in an even color. Paint acts the same way. Artist-oil paint mixes very well with varnish, blends well with other colors and easily controlled ranging from just a hint of color to almost opaque. Mixing artist-oils with varnish results in drying times of typically one day, the same as varnish. Rarely do I paint a carving but there are many times when I add a little burnt umber, raw umber or raw sienna into the wet varnish in specific areas to deepen the shadows. It isn't noticeable but just a little darkening in just those areas swallows almost all light adding more dimension and depth to your carving. Varnish makes the paint blend so well that there isn't any hard edges so the hint of color added is not noticeable. noticeable apply one or two coats of clear varnish as a top coat. Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** Joe Dillett The Carving Shop 645 E. LaSalle St. Suite 3 Somonauk, IL. 60552 (815) 498-9290 phone (815) 498-9249 fax http://www.thecarvingshop.net [business web site] http://www.carvingmagazine.com ['Ask Joe' column] http://community.webshots.com/user/joe_dillett ****************************************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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