[Woodcarver] Scam Alert

Byron abkinnaman at earthlink.net
Sun Jun 6 21:47:43 EDT 2010


I found their web-site. The first thing I noticed that there's not a
physical address listed only an e-mail address and an 888 phone number.
A warning to all and a thing to remember if you're creating a sales web
page. Do NOT do any business via a web site that doesn't have a
physical address or PO Box., and city.
Byron


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> Also on another alert...do not ever pay Ken or Linda Long of the

> tshirt depot in advance....you will get a lot of promises and excuses

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> --- On *Sun, 6/6/10, Marcia Berkall /<whitwood at fairpoint.net>/* wrote:

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> From: Marcia Berkall <whitwood at fairpoint.net>

> Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] Scam Alert

> To: "[Woodcarver]" <woodcarver at carverscompanion.com>

> Date: Sunday, June 6, 2010, 11:22 AM

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> Wow, Ron!! Good thing you were on the alert! Thanks for the

> heads up. We have to be so careful!!

> Marcia (aka Mush)

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> At 11:56 AM 6/6/2010,Ron wrote:

>> I want to warn other carvers about a scam that was

>> attempted on me. I received a request for a custom order

>> for two carved doors along with a request for the price

>> including shipping to a specific zip code in Georgia.

>> The scammer specified the specific doors they wanted to

>> order from photos on my website. I replied with my

>> normal reply requesting size and swing of the doors.

>> They replied to me with sizes and swing. I spent a

>> couple of hours contacting the stained glass artist, door

>> maker and shipping company to get prices on the costs and

>> then adding in my time to get a final price. I take a

>> 50% deposit on custom orders which came to $8850. The

>> "customer" agreed to send the deposit check. Everything

>> up to this point was normal procedure for this type of

>> order. I then received a check via USPS Express Mail for

>> $10,000. Receiving a check for more than the requested

>> amount is unusual but has happened before. The check was

>> drawn on the account of The American University in

>> Bulgaria. This along with the amount of the check raised

>> a red flag with me and I had my bank check the validity

>> of the account. My bank verified it as a valid account.

>> An internet search showed The American University in

>> Bulgaria to be a real university. At that point I

>> thought that the order was probably legitimate. With

>> trepidation I deposited the check with the intention that

>> I would not start any work until the check cleared. Two

>> days later I got an email from the scammer saying that

>> the extra amount had been a mistake and they needed $1500

>> back to pay the installer for the doors and to send it

>> Western Union immediately. At that point I knew it was a

>> scam and sure enough the next day my bank notified me

>> that the check was a forgery.

>> Ron Ramsey

>> http://www.carvedbyramsey.com

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