Off topic: Send it off-list (was: let's see what the app store says)
Allan Odgaard
1EDF4D33-D1B1-4C97-A393-3D2B4EE5E095+Markdown at uuid-mail.com
Mon Nov 21 15:12:11 EST 2011
If you find someone’s post(s) inappropriate then tell them in private!
I realize the irony in sending this to the list, but this isn’t the
first thread with a dozen posts just bikcering about non-markdown
related stuff.
On 21 Nov 2011, at 21:00, Christian Sciberras wrote:
> Yay! Never mind trolls, let's all burn Apple haters!
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> Oh I know, while at it, let's all start posting at disjointed threads
> too.
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> Who cares about flooding mailboxes, just ignore an email or two, no?
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> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Thomas Humiston
> <tom at jumpingrock.net>wrote:
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>> Never mind, I found the link.
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>> On Nov 21, 2011, at 11:56 AM, Thomas Humiston wrote:
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>>> Does this list have a moderator?
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>>> On Nov 21, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Chad Nelson wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 17:22:25 +0100
>>>> Christian Sciberras <uuf6429 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> He's been called a troll several times before, what make his Apple
>>>>> propagandist remarks any better now?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or is it that there's too much Apple fanboys to let it pass
>>>>> through,
>>>>> hmm?
>>>>
>>>> Apple may be a religion to some, but it's also the manufacturer of
>>>> one
>>>> of the arguably most popular platforms in existence today. For a
>>>> mailing
>>>> list devoted to Markdown, talking about its adoption on that
>>>> platform
>>>> seems pretty on-topic.
>>>> --
>>>> Chad Nelson
>>>> Oak Circle Software, Inc.
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Alan Hogan <alanhogan at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I also find it quite a stretch to call Bowerbird a troll! Usually
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> worst you could call him is "opinionated" and "too frequent a
>>>>>> poster
>>>>>> for some tastes."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I found his App Store updates interesting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your vitriol adds nothing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I bet if we all got together and had a couple drinks, there'd be
>>>>>> none of this silly name-calling.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 21, 2011, at 7:39 AM, Christian Sciberras
>>>>>> <uuf6429 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, it would be ironic of trolls to call each other "troll".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Sherwood Botsford
>>>>>> <sgbotsford at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Someone pee in your cornflakes this morning?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't see the Bowerbird's post as a troll. I found it
>>>>>>> informative. Until I read that I didn't realize that there were
>>>>>>> *ANY* other markdown like front ends other than the one that
>>>>>>> Fletcher was working on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mind you it's not a discussion I've followed with care. My text
>>>>>>> editor of choice is vim.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sherwood of Sherwood's Forests
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sherwood Botsford
>>>>>>> Sherwood's Forests -- http://Sherwoods-Forests.com
>>>>>>> 780-848-2548
>>>>>>> 50042 Range Rd 31
>>>>>>> Warburg, Alberta T0C 2T0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 4:00 AM, Christian Sciberras
>>>>>>> <uuf6429 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm sure the world will dearly mourn the failures of
>>>>>>>> markdown-based
>>>>>>>> crAppStore apps.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now go troll somewhere else, kid.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 11:36 PM, <Bowerbird at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "multimarkdown composer" has been out for 4 weeks now,
>>>>>>>>> so let's mosey on over to the app store to see what it says...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "composer" is #184 in productivity apps, a bit disappointing,
>>>>>>>>> considering that it was in the top-20 when it first came
>>>>>>>>> out...
>>>>>>>>> it's gained only 5 reviews over the 18 it had right off the
>>>>>>>>> bat.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> perhaps even more surprising, to some, is that "marked" is
>>>>>>>>> at #356 in productivity apps, which is a solid indication that
>>>>>>>>> the editing+display coupling produced by "composer" trumps
>>>>>>>>> the use-any-text-editor-you-like generality "marked" offers.
>>>>>>>>> (note also that "marked" is even at a much lower price-point.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and maybe the biggest surprise of all, to some, is the newish
>>>>>>>>> "markdownnote", which appears at #115 in productivity apps.
>>>>>>>>> "markdownnote" has been available on ipad for a while, and
>>>>>>>>> is something of an enigma. its big liability is that it
>>>>>>>>> supports
>>>>>>>>> nothing more than gruber's flawed formulation, but its asset
>>>>>>>>> is that it has the edit-on-one-side-with-display-on-the-other
>>>>>>>>> basic interface which i consider to be vital for this type of
>>>>>>>>> app.
>>>>>>>>> (you might recall that fletcher disagrees with me on this
>>>>>>>>> point.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "markdownnote" pulls off this _simple_interface_ better than
>>>>>>>>> any other app i've found so far, which might well help explain
>>>>>>>>> its good ranking, as there's little else of note in its
>>>>>>>>> feature-set.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ***
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> one other finding of significance is that a search for
>>>>>>>>> "markdown"
>>>>>>>>> returns 9 app-store hits now, revealing new high price-points
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> $10 ("markdown pro"), $20 ("ulysses") and $25 ("markmywords".)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -bowerbird
>>>>
>>>>
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