Off topic: Send it off-list (was: let's see what the app store says)

Christian Sciberras uuf6429 at gmail.com
Mon Nov 21 15:14:52 EST 2011


OK, point taken.






On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Allan Odgaard <
1EDF4D33-D1B1-4C97-A393-3D2B4EE5E095+Markdown at uuid-mail.com> wrote:


> If you find someone’s post(s) inappropriate then tell them in private!

>

> I realize the irony in sending this to the list, but this isn’t the first

> thread with a dozen posts just bikcering about non-markdown related stuff.

>

>

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> On 21 Nov 2011, at 21:00, Christian Sciberras wrote:

>

> Yay! Never mind trolls, let's all burn Apple haters!

>>

>> Oh I know, while at it, let's all start posting at disjointed threads too.

>>

>> Who cares about flooding mailboxes, just ignore an email or two, no?

>>

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>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Thomas Humiston <tom at jumpingrock.net

>> >wrote:

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>> Never mind, I found the link.

>>>

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>>> On Nov 21, 2011, at 11:56 AM, Thomas Humiston wrote:

>>>

>>> Does this list have a moderator?

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> On Nov 21, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Chad Nelson wrote:

>>>>

>>>> On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 17:22:25 +0100

>>>>> Christian Sciberras <uuf6429 at gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> He's been called a troll several times before, what make his Apple

>>>>>> propagandist remarks any better now?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Or is it that there's too much Apple fanboys to let it pass through,

>>>>>> hmm?

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Apple may be a religion to some, but it's also the manufacturer of one

>>>>> of the arguably most popular platforms in existence today. For a

>>>>> mailing

>>>>> list devoted to Markdown, talking about its adoption on that platform

>>>>> seems pretty on-topic.

>>>>> --

>>>>> Chad Nelson

>>>>> Oak Circle Software, Inc.

>>>>> *

>>>>> *

>>>>> *

>>>>>

>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Alan Hogan <alanhogan at gmail.com>

>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I also find it quite a stretch to call Bowerbird a troll! Usually the

>>>>>>> worst you could call him is "opinionated" and "too frequent a poster

>>>>>>> for some tastes."

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I found his App Store updates interesting.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Your vitriol adds nothing.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I bet if we all got together and had a couple drinks, there'd be

>>>>>>> none of this silly name-calling.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> On Nov 21, 2011, at 7:39 AM, Christian Sciberras <uuf6429 at gmail.com>

>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Yeah, it would be ironic of trolls to call each other "troll".

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Sherwood Botsford

>>>>>>> <sgbotsford at gmail.com>wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Someone pee in your cornflakes this morning?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I don't see the Bowerbird's post as a troll. I found it

>>>>>>>> informative. Until I read that I didn't realize that there were

>>>>>>>> *ANY* other markdown like front ends other than the one that

>>>>>>>> Fletcher was working on.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Mind you it's not a discussion I've followed with care. My text

>>>>>>>> editor of choice is vim.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Respectfully,

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Sherwood of Sherwood's Forests

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Sherwood Botsford

>>>>>>>> Sherwood's Forests -- http://Sherwoods-Forests.com

>>>>>>>> 780-848-2548

>>>>>>>> 50042 Range Rd 31

>>>>>>>> Warburg, Alberta T0C 2T0

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 4:00 AM, Christian Sciberras

>>>>>>>> <uuf6429 at gmail.com>wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I'm sure the world will dearly mourn the failures of markdown-based

>>>>>>>>> crAppStore apps.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Now go troll somewhere else, kid.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

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>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 11:36 PM, <Bowerbird at aol.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "multimarkdown composer" has been out for 4 weeks now,

>>>>>>>>>> so let's mosey on over to the app store to see what it says...

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> "composer" is #184 in productivity apps, a bit disappointing,

>>>>>>>>>> considering that it was in the top-20 when it first came out...

>>>>>>>>>> it's gained only 5 reviews over the 18 it had right off the bat.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> perhaps even more surprising, to some, is that "marked" is

>>>>>>>>>> at #356 in productivity apps, which is a solid indication that

>>>>>>>>>> the editing+display coupling produced by "composer" trumps

>>>>>>>>>> the use-any-text-editor-you-like generality "marked" offers.

>>>>>>>>>> (note also that "marked" is even at a much lower price-point.)

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> and maybe the biggest surprise of all, to some, is the newish

>>>>>>>>>> "markdownnote", which appears at #115 in productivity apps.

>>>>>>>>>> "markdownnote" has been available on ipad for a while, and

>>>>>>>>>> is something of an enigma. its big liability is that it supports

>>>>>>>>>> nothing more than gruber's flawed formulation, but its asset

>>>>>>>>>> is that it has the edit-on-one-side-with-display-**on-the-other

>>>>>>>>>> basic interface which i consider to be vital for this type of app.

>>>>>>>>>> (you might recall that fletcher disagrees with me on this point.)

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> "markdownnote" pulls off this _simple_interface_ better than

>>>>>>>>>> any other app i've found so far, which might well help explain

>>>>>>>>>> its good ranking, as there's little else of note in its

>>>>>>>>>> feature-set.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> ***

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> one other finding of significance is that a search for "markdown"

>>>>>>>>>> returns 9 app-store hits now, revealing new high price-points of

>>>>>>>>>> $10 ("markdown pro"), $20 ("ulysses") and $25 ("markmywords".)

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> -bowerbird

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

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