Passenger service on the Durham District

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I was working in the Durham shop when the passenger trains were discontinued on August 28, 1954. At that time the motive power on local freights Nos. 71 and 72 was either a Z1a or Z1b 2-6-6-2, not a 4-8-0.  When the Durham line was dieselized in the fall of 1955, the motive power was GP9's and RS3's.  The first RS11 was not delivered to the  N & W until March of the following year.

Incidentally, NWHS member Louie Newton informed me that the Virginian Railway had a pair of trains numbered 71 and 72, so Norfolk Division Operating Timetable No.16 Effective Tuesday, December 1, 1959 (the merger date) shows the local freights on the Durham Line were changed to Nos. 47 and 48 to avoid a conflict.  These locals were back to fourth class by then, the first class mixed trains having been discontinued by January 1, 1958 (Operating Timetable No. 12 effective that date).

Gordon Hamilton
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  if steam 4-8-0

  if diesel EMD GP9 phase 2 or phase 3, or Alco RS11

  Nigel F Misso

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    What motive power pulled this mixed consist in 1957? That would be an interesting run to have pull out of one of my staging yards and disappear into another one just for the entertainment value....

    Bob Welsh
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      In a message dated 11/9/04 10:40:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org writes:
        Chuck:

        I believe the mixed service was discontinued sometime in 1957=58. The one time I saw this mixed train coming into Lyncuburg the passenger/express service was provided in a combine on the end of a twenty or so car freight train. The scheduled time from Lynchburg to Durham was about 8 hours.... less than 15 mph to permit switching along the way.

                                                                                             Ray Smoot
      Thank you for the dates.  According to the acount in the local papers on 8/9/54, Train 76 was to leave Lynchburg at 8:45 am and reach Durham at 4:05 pm.  Train 75 was to leave Durham at 6:30 am and arrive in Lynchburg at 2:45 pm.  With that type of schedule I am surprised that the service lasted that long.  

      Where did trains 75 and 76 meet to pass each other?  In South Boston? And was a 20 boxcar train normal for that time?

      Thanks again, 

      Chuck Stewart




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