NW-Mailing-List Digest, Vol 23, Issue 12
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Tue Nov 6 09:54:15 EST 2007
My deepest apologies on my confusion concerning the "color guide". After looking at the message again I see that it "Jerry" wrote the original message I was responding to. Thanks for clearing up the renumbering. Do you by any chance know what the cross reference is between new and old numbers? Thanks for your help!
Rodney
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:13:14 -0600
From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
Subject: Re: N&W Postal Car No. 160
To: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
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Rodney: I have not made any referencxe to the "Color Guide" March 1967
is obviously too early for N&W 160. But look at the "Wabash" cars. It is
not under "postal" cars. 451 to 456 are listed as Baggage & Mail with a
30' RPO. N&W rebuilt it to 60', making it a postal car and gave in
number 160. Jim Nichols
NW Mailing List wrote:
> My copy of "The Official Register of Passenger Train Equipment"
> for March 1967 does not show an active car numbered 160. In the "N&W"
> section they list Postal Cars with the ranges of 90 to 98 and 162 to
> 179. The 'Wabash" section shows postal cars with the range of 167 to
> 179. Did they change the number when it was rebuilt?
>
> Also, Jim could you please tell me what "color guide" you are
> referencing. I have a copy of the "Norfolk and Western Color Guide to
> Freight and Passenger Cars" but I didn't see what you were talking
> about in it.
>
> Rodney
>
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:05:22 -0500
> From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org
> <mailto:nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>>
> Subject: Re: N&W 160 - 60' RPO car acquired from the Fisco in 1967
> To: "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org
> <mailto:nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>>
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>
> Right you are, Jim!
>
> I stand corrected.
>
> EdK
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: NW Mailing List
> To: NW Mailing List
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 10:00 AM
> Subject: Re: N&W 160 - 60' RPO car acquired from the Fisco in 1967
>
>
>
> Ed: Show me an RPO with a star!! They didn't need them. No, this is
> an active car. The 1967 rebuilding changed a 30' mail apartment into a
> 60' apartment. It is an ex Wabash car, not Frisco. Jim Nichols
>
> Neither is a star on the car, indicating it's not to be occupied
> account no toilet facilities. . .
>
> EdKing
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: NW Mailing List
> To: nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org <mailto:nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 6:40 PM
> Subject: Re: N&W 160 - 60' RPO car acquired from the Fisco in 1967
>
>
> >Further, N&W had sold a RPO to the Florida East Coast Railway
> at that time, so it's unclear why it sold a car then turned around and
> bought a similar one.
>
> My understanding is that the cars sold to FEC went circa 1960 -
> 1961, returning to the N&W 1966, according to the "N&W Color Guide".
>
> Also, it is worth noting that the mailbag hooks are not on the
> car, so the car likely was being used for either storage mail or
> package service. Thanks for sharing that shot... I had no idea such a
> transaction had occurred.
>
>
>
> jerry
>
>
>
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