Columbus District single-tracking

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It did not eliminate the issue at Renick as it's still double track at that
location.

Eric

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> Although the Columbus District single-tracking created two bottlenecks in

> an otherwise high-capacity double track district, the single-tracking of the

> segment rhough Chillicothe did have some marginal benefits. It eliminated

> several diamonds at the crossings of the B&O at both Renick and Chillicothe.

> It also eliminated the maintenance of one track over the Scioto River

> bridge, The sharp reverse curve west (compass north) of the B&O crossing in

> Chllicothe was eased somewhat, and the previous speed limit of 20 MPH over

> the crossings at both Renick and Chillicothe was raised to 35 MPH, thus

> helping westbound trains get a run for Kingston Hill.

>

> Louis Newton

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>> District single-tracking (NW Mailing List)

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>> It also eliminates the weight of two trains on the bridge at the same

>> time.

>> Bob McKell

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>> Since you would have the same number of trains, how would that reduce wear

>> and tear on the bridge? Reduce maintenance costs? Yes! Also, reduce

>> taxable

>> value of the property. Jim Nichols

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>> Chillicothe-Scioto contains the crossing of the Scioto River, presumably

>> this was done to reduce wear and tear on the bridge? Omega-Lunbeck I never

>> realized this was ever doubled. All I can say is it is a remote, curvy

>> stretch down near the river, if that has anything to do with it. Maybe to

>> reduce maintenance costs? Good question, I hope someone will have more on

>> this. I dispatch this part of the railroad.

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>> Keith Baker

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>> The segment between MP N-642 and N-652 (Omega to Lunbeck) was

>> single-tracked

>> in May 1959. The segment through Chillicothe was single-tracked sometime

>> later, perhaps 1960.

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>> The "grand plan" at that time was to continue single-tracking large

>> portions

>> of the Columbus District, but when plans for the N&W-NKP-WAB merger

>> developed, management realized that the Columbus District would no doubt

>> see

>> an increase in traffic, so the project was not continued.

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>> Louis Newton

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>>> Bluefield Daily Telegraph

>>> April 5, 1909

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>>> MARK TWAIN NOT COMING

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>>> H. H. Rogers and Party Will Spend Tonight at Princeton

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>>> Roanoke, Va., April 5 (Special)--H. H. Rogers, builder of the Virginian

>>> railway, and party are in the city and were the guests of the city of

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>>> Anyone know the date and logic behind adding the two single track

>>> sections

>>> to the Columbus District between Omega and Lunbeck and again between

>>> Chillicothe and Scioto? I believe it was in the 60's which precedes most

>>> of the single tracking done by the feline mascot-ed competitor. I would

>>> have assumed the Columbus District would have taken a significant roll in

>>> the consolidation plans for when the NKP & Wabash were absorbed, so

>>> looking back now it s sort of surprising for it to have happened in the

>>> same time frame as the merger.

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>>> Whit Wardell

>>> Canal Winchester, OH

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>>> Bluefield Daily Telegraph

>>> April 7, 1909

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>>> HAILED AS GREATEST MAN COUNTRY HAS PRODUCED

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>>> Princeton, W. Va., April 6 (Special)--H. H. Rogers and party reached

>>> Princeton this afternoon on a special train, being accorded the biggest

>>> welcome the builder of the road has received anywhere along the line.

>>> Fully 2,000 enthusiastic persons and a brass band met the train and

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>> I was told, years ago, that the N&W single tracked this section because of

>> a tax increase by Ross County. Single track would be taxed at half of the of

>> the original assessment for the double track. I take this tale with a grain

>> of salt. Single track would double the wear on the Scioto River bridge as

>> all trains must use the remaining bridge. It also creates a bit of a

>> bottleneck from double to single and back.

>>

>> Larry S.

>> N&W Signal Dept.

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>> The western most stretch of single track also eliminated a set of diamonds

>> to maintain across the B&O by the Chillicothe depot. The tax issue theory

>> might have some merit as the start of single track at Omega is just into

>> Pike County. West of Scioto, Kingston Hill becomes an operational issue

>> which would have been a headache had it been single tracked. The double

>> track section between Lunbeck and Scioto is obviously handy to pass trains

>> but would have frequently been blocked back then had it not been double

>> tracked due to N&W trains working Renick Yard with both B&O interchange

>> traffic and Mead Paper traffic.

>>

>> Whit

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>> I was told, years ago, that the N&W single tracked this section because of

>> a tax increase by Ross County. Single track would be taxed at half of the of

>> the original assessment for the double track. I take this tale with a grain

>> of salt. Single track would double the wear on the Scioto River bridge as

>> all trains must use the remaining bridge. It also creates a bit of a

>> bottleneck from double to single and back.

>>

>> Larry S.

>> N&W Signal Dept.

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