Columbus District single-tracking
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It did not eliminate the issue at Renick as it's still double track at that
location.
Eric
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> Although the Columbus District single-tracking created two bottlenecks in
> an otherwise high-capacity double track district, the single-tracking of the
> segment rhough Chillicothe did have some marginal benefits. It eliminated
> several diamonds at the crossings of the B&O at both Renick and Chillicothe.
> It also eliminated the maintenance of one track over the Scioto River
> bridge, The sharp reverse curve west (compass north) of the B&O crossing in
> Chllicothe was eased somewhat, and the previous speed limit of 20 MPH over
> the crossings at both Renick and Chillicothe was raised to 35 MPH, thus
> helping westbound trains get a run for Kingston Hill.
>
> Louis Newton
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>> It also eliminates the weight of two trains on the bridge at the same
>> time.
>> Bob McKell
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>> Since you would have the same number of trains, how would that reduce wear
>> and tear on the bridge? Reduce maintenance costs? Yes! Also, reduce
>> taxable
>> value of the property. Jim Nichols
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>> Chillicothe-Scioto contains the crossing of the Scioto River, presumably
>> this was done to reduce wear and tear on the bridge? Omega-Lunbeck I never
>> realized this was ever doubled. All I can say is it is a remote, curvy
>> stretch down near the river, if that has anything to do with it. Maybe to
>> reduce maintenance costs? Good question, I hope someone will have more on
>> this. I dispatch this part of the railroad.
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>> Keith Baker
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>> The segment between MP N-642 and N-652 (Omega to Lunbeck) was
>> single-tracked
>> in May 1959. The segment through Chillicothe was single-tracked sometime
>> later, perhaps 1960.
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>> The "grand plan" at that time was to continue single-tracking large
>> portions
>> of the Columbus District, but when plans for the N&W-NKP-WAB merger
>> developed, management realized that the Columbus District would no doubt
>> see
>> an increase in traffic, so the project was not continued.
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>> Louis Newton
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>>> Anyone know the date and logic behind adding the two single track
>>> sections
>>> to the Columbus District between Omega and Lunbeck and again between
>>> Chillicothe and Scioto? I believe it was in the 60's which precedes most
>>> of the single tracking done by the feline mascot-ed competitor. I would
>>> have assumed the Columbus District would have taken a significant roll in
>>> the consolidation plans for when the NKP & Wabash were absorbed, so
>>> looking back now it s sort of surprising for it to have happened in the
>>> same time frame as the merger.
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>>> Whit Wardell
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>>> April 7, 1909
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>>> HAILED AS GREATEST MAN COUNTRY HAS PRODUCED
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>> I was told, years ago, that the N&W single tracked this section because of
>> a tax increase by Ross County. Single track would be taxed at half of the of
>> the original assessment for the double track. I take this tale with a grain
>> of salt. Single track would double the wear on the Scioto River bridge as
>> all trains must use the remaining bridge. It also creates a bit of a
>> bottleneck from double to single and back.
>>
>> Larry S.
>> N&W Signal Dept.
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>> The western most stretch of single track also eliminated a set of diamonds
>> to maintain across the B&O by the Chillicothe depot. The tax issue theory
>> might have some merit as the start of single track at Omega is just into
>> Pike County. West of Scioto, Kingston Hill becomes an operational issue
>> which would have been a headache had it been single tracked. The double
>> track section between Lunbeck and Scioto is obviously handy to pass trains
>> but would have frequently been blocked back then had it not been double
>> tracked due to N&W trains working Renick Yard with both B&O interchange
>> traffic and Mead Paper traffic.
>>
>> Whit
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>> I was told, years ago, that the N&W single tracked this section because of
>> a tax increase by Ross County. Single track would be taxed at half of the of
>> the original assessment for the double track. I take this tale with a grain
>> of salt. Single track would double the wear on the Scioto River bridge as
>> all trains must use the remaining bridge. It also creates a bit of a
>> bottleneck from double to single and back.
>>
>> Larry S.
>> N&W Signal Dept.
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