NW-Mailing-List Icing of vegetables

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Probably not.   

 

See the Pacific Fruit Express book put out a few years ago.   

 

PFE would spray/blow crushed ice over packed crates of some vegetables in
warmer weather if it was obvious that the possible freezing of the produce
was fairly unlikely.  But this required mechanical crushing of the ice
blocks and was a service only available in the late 1930's and onward.

 

For a 1909 shipment, this was not likely.  Also, was the Bluefield ice house
using manufactured ice or harvested ice from the winter ice-covered ponds in
the area?  Again, the capabilities of the icing facilities- in 1909- cannot
have been very sophisticated.  The bigger icing platforms were 1920's
projects.

 

Remember veggies can only be flash-frozen to eliminate the rupture of the
cells during freezing; otherwise the vegetables will freeze and thaw to
mush. 

 

Gary Rolih

Cincinnati 

 

 

 

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Would they directly ice the cabbage like watermellon?

 

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   1. Cabbage (NW Mailing List)
   2. Re: Cabbage (NW Mailing List)
   3. Virginian in 1909--Winding Gulf (NW Mailing List)
   4. Closure of N&W Railway agency at Boyce in 1958  (NW Mailing List)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:01:30 -0400
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Subject: Cabbage
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That's more than a lot of Cabbage. Imagine If it were Kim Che? Might
make a stockcar special seem pale by comparison.

On another issue, Gordon, this is great the local N&W railroad related
news which you always seem to have to share with us here, centered
around Bluefield. Gee, "if only" others could share from other regions
in a manner similar to your doing for these olde tyme tales are always
nothing short of great. Thank you for always sharing them.

Bob Cohen


> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

 Bluefield Daily Telegraph

> August 11, 1909

>

> IN CITY AND COALFIELD

> ------

>

> Solid Cabbage Train

> ? ?The Norfolk and Western railway, it is said, will put on a special

cabbage train of refrigerator cars to run between Rural Retreat, Va., and
the cities of the south. ?The Swift Packing Company is said to have made a
contract with the cabbage growers of Wythe county to handle the product of
the entire field, shipping cabbage daily in iced cars in order to put the
product into the markets of the country in first-class condition. ?The first
train of iced cars was expected to be run yesterday.

> ------

> Gordon Hamilton




> Bottom - that's a lotta slaw . . .

>

> Need to run a solid mayonnaise train . . .

>

> EdKing



> ?Bluefield Daily Telegraph

> ?August 11, 1909

>

> ?Solid Cabbage Train

> ? ? ?The Norfolk and Western railway, it is said, will put on a special

cabbage train of refrigerator cars to run between Rural Retreat, Va., and
the cities of the south. ?The Swift Packing Company is said to have made a
contract with the cabbage growers of Wythe county to handle the product of
the entire field, shipping cabbage daily in iced cars in order to put the
product into the markets of the country in first-class condition. ?The first
train of iced cars was expected to be run yesterday.

> ?------

> ?Gordon Hamilton



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Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:55:40 -0400
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You're welcome, Bob.  I get a lot of pleasure sharing these items.

Gordon Hamilton

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Subject: Cabbage


That's more than a lot of Cabbage. Imagine If it were Kim Che? Might
make a stockcar special seem pale by comparison.

On another issue, Gordon, this is great the local N&W railroad related
news which you always seem to have to share with us here, centered
around Bluefield. Gee, "if only" others could share from other regions
in a manner similar to your doing for these olde tyme tales are always
nothing short of great. Thank you for always sharing them.

Bob Cohen


> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

 Bluefield Daily Telegraph

> August 11, 1909

>

> IN CITY AND COALFIELD

> ------

>

> Solid Cabbage Train

> The Norfolk and Western railway, it is said, will put on a special cabbage



> train of refrigerator cars to run between Rural Retreat, Va., and the 

> cities of the south. The Swift Packing Company is said to have made a 

> contract with the cabbage growers of Wythe county to handle the product of



> the entire field, shipping cabbage daily in iced cars in order to put the 

> product into the markets of the country in first-class condition. The 

> first train of iced cars was expected to be run yesterday.

> ------

> Gordon Hamilton




> Bottom - that's a lotta slaw . . .

>

> Need to run a solid mayonnaise train . . .

>

> EdKing



> Bluefield Daily Telegraph

> August 11, 1909

>

> Solid Cabbage Train

> The Norfolk and Western railway, it is said, will put on a special cabbage



> train of refrigerator cars to run between Rural Retreat, Va., and the 

> cities of the south. The Swift Packing Company is said to have made a 

> contract with the cabbage growers of Wythe county to handle the product of



> the entire field, shipping cabbage daily in iced cars in order to put the 

> product into the markets of the country in first-class condition. The 

> first train of iced cars was expected to be run yesterday.

> ------

> Gordon Hamilton

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Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:53:27 -0400
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Bluefield Daily Telegraph
August 14, 1909

EXTEND WINDING GULF BRANCH TO MT. HOPE
-----
Virginian Railway Will Provide Another Shipping Outlet for Sam Dixon's Coal
Operations

    Senator H. S. White, of Matewan, internal revenue collector, was in
Bluefield yesterday returning from a trip on official business to Raleigh
and Wyoming counties.  Senator White was through the Winding Gulf region
into which the Virginian is completing a branch line from Mullins [sic] to
tap a big coal area.  The branch will be completed in about thirty days, and
its completion will be followed by the opening up of some sixteen coal
operations.  Several of these operations are now in a position to ship and
are awaiting facilities to market their output.
    Senator White learned that the contract has been let to extend the
Winding Gulf branch to Mount Hope, a distance of twenty-four miles and
provide a shipping outlet over the Virginian for the Sam Dixon operations.
He was greatly impressed with the activity of the country, and he believes
it is destined to become one of the important coal areas of southern West
Virginia.
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Gordon Hamilton
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 01:03:58 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Closure of N&W Railway agency at Boyce in 1958 
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April 27, 2009

Good morning, Ken:

I appreciate your helpfulness during January.  I was at the Library of
Virginia reviewing articles in the CLARKE COURIER newspaper during 1958 and
located an article, "N&W Asks Commission to Close Boyce Station," in the
September 11, 1958, issue on page 7.

N&W Asks Commission to Close Boyce Station

        The Norfolk & Western Railway Company has announced that the station
in Boyce will be closed, if permission is granted the company's application
before the State Corportation Commission.
        The station has been in existence since 1914.
        H. E. Carter, Superintendent of the Shenandoah Valley Division, said
the railroad company is losing money at the rate of over $300 a month.  He
said that Clarke County Supply, Inc. uses the station more than any other
firm or person.
        The total amount of money to keep the station in operation was
estimated at $7,500.
        This building also houses the post office at Boyce.

Regrettably, I cannot locate a follow-up article that confirms the closure
occurred on a particular date.  I will check the WINCHESTER EVENING STAR for
1958 on a future occasion.

While at the Library of Virginia, I looked at the 1958 and 1959 Virginia SCC
Annual Reports at HD2767.V882.  However, there are no entries in the index
for closure of the Norfolk & Western (N&W) freight agency, Railway Express
agency, or Western Union agency at Boyce.

Is there another source for the Virginia SCC proceeding in this case which
shows an order date or discusses the merits of N&W's application?  Also,
where would be the file of the application and any exhibits submitted by the
N&W?

As a general observation, it seems that indexing of agency closures was not
comprehensive.  Many appear in the annual report indexes, while others do
not.  It is not clear why these inconsistencies occurred.

Best wishes,

Dr. Frank R. Scheer, Curator
Railway Mail Service Library, Inc. 
f_scheer at yahoo.com 
(202) 268-2121 - weekday office 
(540) 837-9090 - Saturday afternoon 
in the former N&W station on VA rte 723 
117 East Main Street 
Boyce VA 22620-9639


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