N&W in 1910--Gary Pullman

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Thanks to all who pointed out that Pennsylvania Station in New York City had not yet been opened when the Bluefield newspaper announced that the Gary Pullman's northern terminus was being switched from Philadelphia to Jersey City.  So, the PRR trains as of the March 6, 1910, effective date in the article would have terminated at Jersey City's Pennsylvania station, later known at Exchange Place, where passengers would have taken a ferry, or the Hudson Tubes, across the Hudson to Manhattan.  I rode into and out of Exchange Place several times in the late 1950's when the PRR still used that terminal for a few of its  New York and Long Branch RR trains, such as its named commuter train, The Broker.  Although it entailed a ferry ride or a ride on the Hudson Tubes, trains like The Broker provided a more direct access to Wall Street than those that used Manhattan's Pennsylvania Station, which was farther north.

Gordon Hamilton

Gordon Hamilton
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  Penn Station in Manhattan, NYC was opened on  November 27, 1910.

   

  Ed Painter;  Narrows, Va living in Russellville, AR

   

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  When was Penn Station opened? Looks like we need a 1910 Official Guide.   Jim Nichols

   

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  Bluefield Daily Telegraph
  February 23, 1910

   

  IN CITY AND COALFIELD

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  Pullman Car Change

   

      Commencing March 6th the Pullman car which now runs between Gary and Philadelphia will run between Gary and Jersey City.  The Pullman from Roanoke will be discontinued to Jersey City and the Gary Car will do the work.  For a number of years every man from this section who has visited the union station in Philadelphia has smiled and thought of home when he saw a sign at the station saying, "This car for Gary, W. Va."  They can now be at home in Jersey City as they will be greeted by a sign across the river from New York which will say in large type, "This car for Gary, W. Va."  Locally the car will have to be called the New York special, as the people in this section will feel that they are not being treated right unless they feel that all the world knows that a car runs direct from Gary and this city to New York.

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  [There are two thing puzzling about this report.  One, the June 1915 Official Guide shows the New York connections then were over the PRR into Pennsylvania Station in Manhattan--not Jersey City.  Could B&O trains have been used to Jersey City in 1910?  Two, this same 1915 guide shows Trains 1 and 2 on the Shenandoah Valley route  handling a Pullman between Winston-Salem and New York and a Pullman between Gary  and Philadelphia.  If the latter were shifted to Jersey City in 1910, it apparently was shifted back to Philadelphia by 1915.]

   

  Gordon Hamilton



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