Heritage Unit Photos

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 Ed, your comment about the shade of black made me laugh. As an automotive painter for the last 35 years I'm with you on the no absolutely correct color. To use the aforementioned black for example, DuPont, at my last count, has 6 different formulas for General Motors code 8555 black, all in the same type of ChromaBase paint. If they can't produce black cars of the same code that are the same color, then what chance is there that locomotives were any exact color.

Doug Langliz

 

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I disagree.  Again, I have thousands of N&W 35mm slides that I shot personally during the era that blue units operated within.  I saw blue N&W locomotives live and in person over many years.   There is no absolutely correct N&W Blue, like with N&W Red, there is a range of colors that were produced over its time of use.  There are many variables that affect how a paint will look following application.  Whether it’s air brushing HO models or spray painting large pieces of construction equipment (as a did at times as a part of my summer job with Babcock and Wilcox during college).  Primer, no primer….the color of the primer – light or heavy application – thinning and so on?   One thing we need to also note is the absolute cleanliness and glossy finish on the N&W Heritage unit.  Of my thousands of roster shots few if any N&W locomotives were ever clean (unless coming directly from the paint shop) and none I saw ever received the attention to final surface condition that this ES44AC has seen in its mirror like finish.
 
I too would have preferred black but the blue looks great. (I could assume too that someone wouldn’t be happy with the shade of black used?)  That would make for a really good debate too!#^%$ 
 
Thank you Wick and NS for honoring the memory of the Norfolk and Western Railway.  Your efforts are appreciated!
 
Ed Painter,  Narrows, VA living in Russellville, AR  
 

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Todd

 

      First of all I what to say thanks NS and Wick Mormon for all there efforts. Great Job it makes no difference what

color it is. It's not a N&W locomotive anyway.

   

     I agree with Mark its fairly clear that it is not the same color any of us  remember and does not match the photographic record

as he said. I have seen it in person and photos and does not look correct to me. And maybe everyone is wrong but it been talked

about on just about ever list on the internet and no one ever said it was to dark.

 

With all due respect the color info was provide from a sample from a member of this list as I understand it.  EMD

may have provided some information but all the paint code info EMD has is no longer useable I have research it

with great detail.  EMD, Duco, Deluxe, Harris codes can no longer be mix by the code info . That being said it can

be matched exactly from a sample of the paint. And that is apparently were it went wrong or maybe NS relied on

faulty info from  EMD. EMD would not have available any new paint codes for this paint because they have not

used it since the 1960s. 

 

The Attached Photo is the way I remember it

 

Larry Evans

Kenova, WV



 
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