Heritage Unit Photos

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In a strange cynical way, it is refreshing to see the argument over the proper 
shade of blue. I have been frustrated by the argument over red for years, so it 
is fun to see it shift to blue. To the best of my memory, the blue units I saw 
in Bluefield were a little darker than the heritage unit appears to be; but I 
think I like the lighter shade better. Go NS!

Jim Nichols




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Ed, your comment about the shade of black made me laugh. As an automotive 
painter for the last 35 years I'm with you on the no absolutely correct color. 
To use the aforementioned black for example, DuPont, at my last count, has 6 
different formulas for General Motors code 8555 black, all in the same type of 
ChromaBase paint. If they can't produce black cars of the same code that are the 
same color, then what chance is there that locomotives were any exact color.

Doug Langliz


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I disagree.  Again, I have thousands of N&W 35mm slides that I shot personally 
during the era that blue units operated within.  I saw blue N&W locomotives live 
and in person over many years.   There is no absolutely correct N&W Blue, like 
with N&W Red, there is a range of colors that were produced over its time of 
use.  There are many variables that affect how a paint will look following 
application.  Whether it’s air brushing HO models or spray painting large pieces 
of construction equipment (as a did at times as a part of my summer job with 
Babcock and Wilcox during college).  Primer, no primer….the color of the primer 
– light or heavy application – thinning and so on?   One thing we need to also 
note is the absolute cleanliness and glossy finish on the N&W Heritage unit.  Of 
my thousands of roster shots few if any N&W locomotives were ever clean (unless 
coming directly from the paint shop) and none I saw ever received the attention 
to final surface condition that this ES44AC has seen in its mirror like finish.
 
I too would have preferred black but the blue looks great. (I could assume too 
that someone wouldn’t be happy with the shade of black used?)  That would make 
for a really good debate too!#^%$ 

 
Thank you Wick and NS for honoring the memory of the Norfolk and Western 
Railway.  Your efforts are appreciated!
 
Ed Painter,  Narrows, VA living in Russellville, AR  
 
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Todd

      First of all I what to say thanks NS and Wick Mormon for all there 
efforts. Great Job it makes no difference what
color it is. It's not a N&W locomotive anyway.
   
     I agree with Mark its fairly clear that it is not the same color any of us 
 remember and does not match the photographic record
as he said. I have seen it in person and photos and does not look correct to me. 
And maybe everyone is wrong but it been talked
about on just about ever list on the internet and no one ever said it was to 
dark.

With all due respect the color info was provide from a sample from a member of 
this list as I understand it.  EMD
may have provided some information but all the paint code info EMD has is no 
longer useable I have research it
with great detail.  EMD, Duco, Deluxe, Harris codes can no longer be mix by the 
code info . That being said it can
be matched exactly from a sample of the paint. And that is apparently were it 
went wrong or maybe NS relied on
faulty info from  EMD. EMD would not have available any new paint codes for this 
paint because they have not
used it since the 1960s. 

The Attached Photo is the way I remember it

Larry Evans
Kenova, WV


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