Arrow cars ?

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Could this be another ex-N&W DE diner from the first Powhatan Arrow?  Its
current number is 3645.  It's appearance (other than paint) matches the one
I had discussed below. 

http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2685573

 

Phil Miller

 

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There are suggestions some ex-N&W passenger cars went south to Mexico.

 

Possible N&W HW coach:
http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2681157 

 

There's another photo that I saw long ago, and printed, but I can't find it
on the web now. It looks like one of the N&W DE diners with the larger A/C
ductwork on the one end of the roof, like the first Powhatan Arrow diners
had (like HW sleepers ducting). The photo caption was labeled as ex-N&W
heavyweight diner. It's painted Pullman Green with the railroad name
"Mexico" and "Comedor" above the attendant's end-side door with car number
SCD 3648. There's other lettering where the car name would go. From a web
search it might be a 44 seat diner named "MANDIGA". The photo credit is J.
R. Herron, 1998. I can't find the photo on the web. 

 

Phil Miller

 

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A good many of the lightweights have survived, a few still owned by NS, but
most of the cars used in the steam program have been scattered far and wide.
My guess is that the 1023 & 1024 are long gone; even if they perhaps went
into MofW service after being retired, MofW uses far fewer railroad cars now
than in former times. The 581 & 582 were reportedly scrapped in Saudi Arabia
(although there are a faithful few who refuse to believe it). Jim Brewer may
come close to being able to tell where the survivors are, as he worked up a
passenger car roster several years ago.

 

Jim Nichols
    

 

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Jim;
 
How many of the cars are still in existance? And is there a site that shows
where they are?
 
Regards,
Russ Goodwin
 

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Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 09:02:55 -0700
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Most (if not all) of the 15 PM coaches received the logo in June 1946, as
did the DE diners 1023 & 1024. After delivery of the 1949 train, the logo
was removed from all these cars. The 1949 train, coaches 501 &502, 511 &
512, 531-540, observations 581 & 581 and diners 491 & 492 all were built
with the logo. 581 & 582 apparantly kept it until their retirement in 1958
and subsequent sale to Saudi Arabia. In time, it was eventually removed from
all the other cars.

 

Jim Nichols

 

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    Is there a record of how many of N&W's passenger cars were blazoned with
the Powhatan Arrow logo?

 

Jimmy Lisle


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