Arrow cars ?

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Yes, that is definitely either the 1023 or the 1024

Jim Nichols




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Could this be another ex-N&W DE diner from the first Powhatan Arrow?  Its 
current number is 3645.  It’s appearance (other than paint) matches the one I 
had discussed below. 

http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2685573
 
Phil Miller
 
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There are suggestions some ex-N&W passenger cars went south to Mexico.
 
Possible N&W HW coach: http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2681157 
 
There’s another photo that I saw long ago, and printed, but I can’t find it on 
the web now. It looks like one of the N&W DE diners with the larger A/C ductwork 
on the one end of the roof, like the first Powhatan Arrow diners had (like HW 
sleepers ducting). The photo caption was labeled as ex-N&W heavyweight diner. 
It’s painted Pullman Green with the railroad name “Mexico” and “Comedor” above 
the attendant’s end-side door with car number SCD 3648. There’s other lettering 
where the car name would go. From a web search it might be a 44 seat diner named 
“MANDIGA”. The photo credit is J. R. Herron, 1998. I can’t find the photo on the 
web. 

 
Phil Miller
 
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A good many of the lightweights have survived, a few still owned by NS, but most 
of the cars used in the steam program have been scattered far and wide. My guess 
is that the 1023 & 1024 are long gone; even if they perhaps went into MofW 
service after being retired, MofW uses far fewer railroad cars now than in 
former times. The 581 & 582 were reportedly scrapped in Saudi Arabia (although 
there are a faithful few who refuse to believe it). Jim Brewer may come close to 
being able to tell where the survivors are, as he worked up a passenger car 
roster several years ago.
 
Jim Nichols
    
 

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Jim;
 
How many of the cars are still in existance? And is there a site that shows 
where they are?
 
Regards,
Russ Goodwin
 

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Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 09:02:55 -0700
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Most (if not all) of the 15 PM coaches received the logo in June 1946, as did 
the DE diners 1023 & 1024. After delivery of the 1949 train, the logo was 
removed from all these cars. The 1949 train, coaches 501 &502, 511 & 512, 
531-540, observations 581 & 581 and diners 491 & 492 all were built with the 
logo. 581 & 582 apparantly kept it until their retirement in 1958 and subsequent 
sale to Saudi Arabia. In time, it was eventually removed from all the other 
cars.
 
Jim Nichols
 

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    Is there a record of how many of N&W's passenger cars were blazoned with the 
Powhatan Arrow logo?
 
Jimmy Lisle

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