Steam engines being restored

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Just curious, is there a list somewhere of locomotives that are being
considered for restoration?
Mike Weeks
Seattle
On Dec 10, 2013 9:47 AM, "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:


>  At the archives there are drawings of cracked frames and their repair as

> Gordan described.  I saw the 2156 at St. Louis about 23 years ago and there

> was a crack in the front LP frame ahead of the left cylinder above the

> engine truck.  It was not a crack across the frame but appeared to me a

> small place that had been pushed out maybe six inches long on the frame

> side.  This is from my recollection.

>

> Bud Jeffries

>

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> One little historical note that not many people today know is that the N&W

> experienced cracks in the front engine frame of "Y" class steam locomotives

> after some 14 tons* of lead was poured into the front frame to give it more

> adhesion for the booster valve was added at the same time in 1953-56*..

> During the summer of 1958 one of my responsibilities at the Shaffers

> Crossing roundhouse was to search for, and inspect, broken parts off steam

> locomotives and prepare a "broken parts report" for the Research & Test

> Department.  I would keep the broken part to see if the lab wanted me to

> send it to them for examination.  Apparently the extra weight in the front

> engine frame began to take its toll by 1958 because during my wanderings

> around the roundhouse I saw a fair number of "Y" class front frames where a

> wheel set had been dropped and a crack above the pedestal opening cut out

> by acetylene torch and the cut then slowly filled by electric welding by

> patient welders.  So, there is plenty of precedent for repairing the crack

> in the 2156 frame.

>

> *Jeffries' *N&W--Giant of Steam*

>

> Gordon Hamilton

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> Subject: Re: Steam engines being restored

>

> > Mason

> >

> >   I have seem pictures of the crack and don't thank its that big of a

> > problem not cheap or easily  fixed

> > but compared to the cost of restoration would be miner

> >

> > Larry Evans

> > Kenova,WV

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> > Subject: RE: Steam engines being restored

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> >

> >>I would love to see it under steam again as this locomotive worked the

> >>Shenandoah Division quite a bit. But it is my understanding that the

> frame

> >>under the front set of drivers is broken. That would make the project

> >>financially if not physically impossible.

> >>

> >> Mason Cooper

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> >> Subject: Re: Steam engines being restored

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> >> That was a very long time ago.  The St. Louis Museum was still in

> >> "acquisition" mode.  Much has changed - different organization;

> different

> >> people in charge; other pieces of the collection in the process of

> being

> >> restored and needing space for display.  Maybe the question should be

> >> asked again.  Just suggesting.

> >>

> >> Jerome Crosson (N&W West - St Peters MO).

> >>

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> >> Subject: Re: Steam engines being restored

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> >>               I do not believe it is due to the feed      water heater

> >> that 2156 is out of the running. From my      understanding the reason

> >> 2156 is not being pursued. Is that when      NS had the Steam program

> >> the first time around they approached the      museum in St. Louis

> >> about 2156 and pretty much the museum didn't      want to work with

> >> them. Something about requiring insurance on it      that made ti to

> >> costly to move? IIRC

> >>

> >>      Nathan

> >>       Nathan Simmonstrainman51 at gmail.comhttp://www.t-51.orgKI4MSK

> >> On 12/7/2013 08:34, NW Mailing List wrote:

> >>

> >>     As I read about the various steam engines being      restored, or

> >> planning to be, one thing I noticed is that all the      possible

> >> candidates had one thing in common.  NONE had a      Worthington BL

> >> style feed water heater.  Are they really that      difficult to

> >> restore?  I know that towards the end of steam on the      N&W, the

> >> Y3's being used in yard service had them removed due      to parts and

> >> maintenance issues.  Is that one of the main reasons      that 2156

> >> isn't being considered?  T&P has 610 with an Elesco,      Most have

> >> Worthington SA style FWH, but I haven't seen ONE BL      style on a

> >> restored loco.

> >>

> >>

> >>                              Mark Lindsey

> >>            Stuck in the 1930's

> >>

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