[Woodcarver] Alan, and backgrounds

[Mike & Patty Wilcox]

He concerns me too.
But not just as he does you.
There are a lot of inconsistencies in his messages.
I'll be very interested in seeing what comes after someone checks on him.
I had offered him help for patterns if he e-mail me off list but all he wanted to send back was to complain.
I played it very careful with what I said to him but I'm not convinced in all he has said.
& yes I have dealt a bit with people like him in my work.
Remember there are a lot of players out there.
Just a point as I said was careful what I said to him but hope to hear from the one that gets this checked out.


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  From: cynda douglas 
  To: Woodcarver at six.pairlist.net 
  Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 1:45 PM
  Subject: [Woodcarver] Alan, and backgrounds


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  Hi, I have been reading all the great interactions with woodsy people. I'd like to make a comment or two.
  Clive, I understand you are trying to get Alan to see it has to come from us. But I hope you remember, he may be in a different space, where you had major illness, but you were also able to see the light at the end of the tunnel by healing and hard work. He might me looking at a future where he has to accept be disabled the rest of his life. Where there is little hope of getting better, that is a nasty pill to swallow. One can not tell someone with major depression to just "Snap out of it."  It is usually a chemical change in the brain that need medical as well as trained treatment from a therapist.  Major depression is NOT something a person can just decide to fix and then leap out of bed some morning, and be all fixed. I do know wherein I speak. I've been there.

  I don't know if he is getting help in this. The loss of ones abilities is like a death. It takes a period of grieving. Not fun to be around, but necessary. After the grieving process, and there is no way around it, then one can start to rebuild and see that it is possible to go on. If the grieving process is skipped, (the macho tough guy stuff) it will sneak up and get you sometime when you least expect it.  Again, I've walked the walk.

  When a person is hitting bottom, they just need to know someone cares, and support. Everything said and around them looks black. It takes gentle encouragement to start to bring the light into focus, and it takes time. 
  Please, in coresponding with him, be gentle, OK?

  BACKGROUNDS:  I haven't done relief carving yet, but many years ago I did leather carving. There are many tools made for backgrounds in leather. I can't help but wonder if some of these would work on wood, or some woods.??? Check with a Tandy store, or leather work supplier and see what they have. I haven't done it yet, and only theory, but can't see why they couldn't be used here, too.

  Ok, I won't preach any more. Had to say it once as Alan concerns me.

  Cynda

   

  Good friends are like stars...
  You don't always see them, but you always
  know they're there.




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