[Woodcarver] woodcarving history...

[maricha]

how true. fascinating world . even leonardo da vinci was into sooooo many 
interesting things and knew so much, yet he was also accused of having 
secrets and being somewhat of an 'alchemist'. even now he is being talked 
about, with the recent book on the da vinci code.... but as far as i am 
concerned he knew a lot and wow was he a great master, a genius, and i guess 
when people cannot understand something or put logic into it that they can 
understand, or science or something, they then feel they have to label 
people as either mad, or being something monstrous.   many times i think 
people want to do and say these things because they will not admit that they 
do not know the answer and they want to put people down. yet no one can know 
everything all the time, we all learn of each other, and from each other we 
share our knowledge and inspiration and know how to grow.
perhaps we are better off not judging instead why not concentrate on doing, 
it is sooo much more interesting to do things and share with people, as it 
then it becomes an important task because we use reason and emotion.
we are constantly learning from past masters, geniuses and present masters, 
and perhaps in our little way, as carvers we are participating in something 
that is real and important.  i often think of myself as a grain of sand, and 
was surprised one day, when i said this to a friend. and she said to me, 
have you ever seen a grain of sand under the microscope? i said no.  She 
said, have a look... it is full of life.

microscopes or magnifying glass, the important thing is we are doing 
something that is important, we are committed to what we are doing, we love 
it, other people like it so they seem to be happy or enjoy watching what we 
do.

ivan, thanks for your wonderful pearls of wisdom and keeping us on our toes.
cheers
maricha
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ivan Whillock" <carve at whillock.com>
To: "[Woodcarver]" <woodcarver at six.pairlist.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 5:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] woodcarving history...


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> Hi Sally,
>
> You do raise some interesting points.  There may have been some religious 
> or
> magical overtones in the early miniaturization.
>
> Roger Bacon is credited by some for  the magnifying glass in 1250, though
> evidence suggests that it was around long before that.
> In those days scientific experiment was in its infancy.  There was a fine
> line between science and alchemy, and many of the establishment resisted 
> the
> challenges to the established order that science brought about.
>
> I would guess that miniaturization was something akin to magic in one 
> point
> of view and the miraclulous in another.   It accomplished "impossible"
> tasks, such as writing the Lord's prayer in letters too small to be seen
> with the naked eye.
>
> Roger Bacon was jailed for a time--though I don't recall specifically
> why--witchcraft or something like that.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "sally nye" <sarolyn at accn.org>
> To: "[Woodcarver]" <woodcarver at six.pairlist.net>
> Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 8:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [Woodcarver] woodcarving history...
>
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>> Thanks Ivan, I needed that.  And thanks to all who replied to my
>> enquiry.  The one thing I do know for sure is that I will "not" be
>> taking up this type of carving.  I admire Maricha for doing Netsuke.
>>
>> I have seen making a chain out of pencil lead & toothpicks.  It is
>> fascinating but nothing I need to pursue.
>>
>> I always think that our tools are more perfected in this century...that
>> we have progressed with time.  I'm not sure I believe that know.  I do
>> know that I've driven over very safe & sound Roman bridges that don't
>> need repair every other year.  The work of the Medici still stands in
>> awe of crowds.  I'd better not continue on this thought pattern or I'll
>> soon come to think we are a doomed society.  LOL.
>> Sally
>> http://www.fancarversworld.com
>>
>> On Jan 6, 2005, at 6:51 PM, Ivan Whillock wrote:
>> Hi Sally,
>>
>> The magnifying glass has been around a long time--in Europe since 1250,
>> nearsightedness longer than that:).
>>
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