[Woodcarver] Water Based Stains

[Hans]

I found the General Finishes web page for their water based products:

http://www.generalfinishes.com/finishes/water-base-finishes/waterbase_finishes.htm

I will have to try some of these. Fortunately, there is a Woodcraft
not too far away. Thanks for the tip!

-- 
Hans Schwalm
http://www.msdesigns.net

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Larry Marshall <larry at woodnbits.com> wrote:

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>> I failed to mention which alcohol to mix to lower the viscosity.

>> (Viscosity is a measurement of resistance to flow.) The alcohol to mix

>> should be wood (methyl) alcohol which is about half the viscosity of water.

>> Grain (Ethyl) alcohol is about the same as water and Isopropyl is about 2

>> times higher than water (all measurements taken at room temperature).

>

> I'm not sure that viscosity differences between these alcohols is relevant,

> Joe.  The viscosity of any finish will be determined by the ratio of finish

> to solvent.  Adding more alcohol (any alcohol) will lower the viscosity of

> any alcohol-based stain.  Same is true for adding water to a water-based

> stain.

>

> The problem with pigment stains (any type) is that they are...well,

> pigments.  They don't penetrate the wood; they sit on the surface. That's

> their job.  Dyes, on the other hand, do penetrate and...dye the wood. Truth

> is, most mainstream "stains" (eg - Minwax stains) are a mixture of pigment

> and dye and the amounts of each are determined by the actual color.

>

>> Steve, I don't know if you sent this, but thank you for this information?

>> " If you want depth, you might want to give dyes a try.  I use TransFast

>> water-soluble dyes and General Finishes pre-mixed water-based dyes.  Both

>> provide clear color changes and I just love them."  I love General Finishes

>> products, which is a small company in

>

> Don't know Steve but it was me that wrote that.  I've used these dyes a lot

> and I'm somewhat surprised that more people don't know about them.  Too much

> shopping at Home Depot I think :-)  Both TransFast dyes and General Finishes

> dyes are available in the US from Woodcraft.  Harder to get in Canada :-(

>

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