[Woodcarver] Water Based Stains

Larry Marshall larry at woodnbits.com
Thu Apr 16 12:15:49 EDT 2009




> I failed to mention which alcohol to mix to lower the viscosity.

> (Viscosity is a measurement of resistance to flow.) The alcohol to mix

> should be wood (methyl) alcohol which is about half the viscosity of

> water. Grain (Ethyl) alcohol is about the same as water and Isopropyl is

> about 2 times higher than water (all measurements taken at room

> temperature).


I'm not sure that viscosity differences between these alcohols is
relevant, Joe. The viscosity of any finish will be determined by
the ratio of finish to solvent. Adding more alcohol (any alcohol)
will lower the viscosity of any alcohol-based stain. Same is true
for adding water to a water-based stain.

The problem with pigment stains (any type) is that they are...well,
pigments. They don't penetrate the wood; they sit on the surface.
That's their job. Dyes, on the other hand, do penetrate and...dye
the wood. Truth is, most mainstream "stains" (eg - Minwax stains)
are a mixture of pigment and dye and the amounts of each are
determined by the actual color.


> Steve, I don't know if you sent this, but thank you for this

> information? " If you want depth, you might want to give dyes a try. I

> use TransFast water-soluble dyes and General Finishes pre-mixed

> water-based dyes. Both provide clear color changes and I just love

> them." I love General Finishes products, which is a small company in


Don't know Steve but it was me that wrote that. I've used these
dyes a lot and I'm somewhat surprised that more people don't know
about them. Too much shopping at Home Depot I think :-) Both
TransFast dyes and General Finishes dyes are available in the US
from Woodcraft. Harder to get in Canada :-(

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